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P-torque.co.uk
20-10-2006, 15:50
Hi Guys

After a lot of interest with the diesel Group Buy, I am offering a GB for the 1.8T owners (Flashable only, i.e 2000 onwards)

I'm looking for a group of 5, and the price will be £250 per car all in. Normally £350 all in

Members so far:

1)Bird
2)Ric_2001
3)evo2345
4)Dan Cupra R
5)

TallFella
20-10-2006, 15:51
Damnit! Temptation why do you haunt me so!!!

jedi knight
20-10-2006, 15:56
Whats the power gains and anyone on this forum had it as I'm still thinking of going the Revo way.

P-torque.co.uk
20-10-2006, 16:03
Hi there!

Read our site feedback.

I have had many customers who previously had maps from other companies (not mentioning any :D ) and have been happier with the results from P-Torque

A guys recently got a faster 1/4 mile against an identical car with a different map

We will soon be offering performance exhaust systems/re-map packages

P-torque.co.uk
20-10-2006, 16:05
Damnit! Temptation why do you haunt me so!!!

Sorry ;)

Crafoo
20-10-2006, 16:14
Grrrrr

I'd like to be a part of this I think but the funds don't permit i'm afraid :cry:

TallFella
20-10-2006, 16:17
Grrrrr

I'd like to be a part of this I think but the funds don't permit i'm afraid :cry:

Likewise!:cry:

Ric 2001
20-10-2006, 17:47
Interested where are you based?

P-torque.co.uk
20-10-2006, 17:49
Hi There

Wombourne, Wolverhampton

evo2345
20-10-2006, 18:10
What Exhaust will you be offering??? Im very intrested

jetsetjimbo
20-10-2006, 18:20
Hi there,

Have you done many 1.8ts? Just wondering as far as post remap testing and how much RnD has gone into the 1.8t map?

Is there any post re-map on road logging (and subsequent tweaking) that's carried out or is it a completely generic 'flash and dash'?

Many thanks

James

Bird
20-10-2006, 20:23
Does it matter which 1.8T engine?

I'm interested, but it'll be a bit of a trek from Cornwall.

RobM
20-10-2006, 20:43
Is this a generic re-map, or a custom map on a rolling road? And do you have any rolling road print outs of 1.8T LCR's that you have mapped in the past?

cupracooper
20-10-2006, 23:19
I'm interested... I have a REVO trial in the past, and some other tuners have said they can't map my ECU unless I have it flashed back to stock, is this the case with yourselves?

Also do you have any dyno plots?

P-torque.co.uk
21-10-2006, 12:03
What Exhaust will you be offering??? Im very intrested

Various exhausts will be offered. Milltek being a popular choice

P-torque.co.uk
21-10-2006, 12:05
Hi there,

Have you done many 1.8ts? Just wondering as far as post remap testing and how much RnD has gone into the 1.8t map?

Is there any post re-map on road logging (and subsequent tweaking) that's carried out or is it a completely generic 'flash and dash'?

Many thanks

James

I have tuned a huge amount of 1.8T's

I do a lot of TT's from the TT forum. I also own a 225TTC myself, which is lively :)

Its not a ''flash and dash'' full diagnostics will be done before and after. Unlike the DIY flash and dash Revo options for example

P-torque.co.uk
21-10-2006, 12:08
Is this a generic re-map, or a custom map on a rolling road? And do you have any rolling road print outs of 1.8T LCR's that you have mapped in the past?

Hi

Every re-map is programmed from the cars original data. There are a good few companies that will upload a generic file, but thats not the right way to tuen a car properly.

I dont have a rolling road, its an age old question. I have the option of installing one, but so far there hasn't been a need. If I need to develop new maps, I have access to rolling road. This is how my prices are kept low.

I do have a 180bhp dyno chart which a customer went and had done after the re-map.

P-torque.co.uk
21-10-2006, 12:10
I'm interested... I have a REVO trial in the past, and some other tuners have said they can't map my ECU unless I have it flashed back to stock, is this the case with yourselves?

Also do you have any dyno plots?

To be honest, I dont tend to take on post trial Revo'd cars.

The trial leaves a code on the ECU, which means tuning can be pain.

We can do them, but not at the discount price

m0rk
21-10-2006, 12:13
Why not just flash to stock? 5 mins work - and it's back to factory settings

I beleive that's what most other tuners who don't modify the existing map do (otherwise they'd just upload & overwrite)

P-torque.co.uk
21-10-2006, 12:35
Why not just flash to stock? 5 mins work - and it's back to factory settings

I beleive that's what most other tuners who don't modify the existing map do (otherwise they'd just upload & overwrite)

Hi Mate

Its not that simple I'm afraid.

The ECU either has to be flashed on the bench, using Boot mode, or the Eprom has to be de-soldered.

Trust me, myself and other tuners both in UK and elsewhere are fully aware of this problem. OBD tools do not read the address affected, therefore it remains.

Bird
21-10-2006, 18:36
Any idea when this might be going ahead?

I'm definately up for it, but its a busy month coming up.

Also, is there any way to tell whether a car has had a Revo trial in the past? I've no idea whether the previous owner did anything.

P-torque.co.uk
21-10-2006, 20:41
Any idea when this might be going ahead?

I'm definately up for it, but its a busy month coming up.

Also, is there any way to tell whether a car has had a Revo trial in the past? I've no idea whether the previous owner did anything.


Hi There

Basically, it will go ahead as soon as I have the 5 confirmed. I will set a deadline of mid-november

As for the Revo trial.......its difficult to say. Best to ask the previous only really. I would say its quite unlikely to be honest

Bird
21-10-2006, 20:59
Thanks,

Count me in dependant on dates, I can't do 31st Oct - 5th Nov or 8th-12th Nov, other than that I should be able to get there.

P-torque.co.uk
22-10-2006, 17:14
Hi Bird

You have been added ;)

Bunnin
22-10-2006, 17:23
:think: mmmmmmmm

was kinda wanting to get a fmic before a get a remap.......:doh:

Ric 2001
22-10-2006, 18:27
Count me in. After the 16th would be better

P-torque.co.uk
23-10-2006, 10:40
Count me in. After the 16th would be better

Hi Ric

That date is no problem I am aiming to complete the group of 5 by mid November, but you can have the work done a little after that if it suits you better!

I have added you to the list

Ric 2001
23-10-2006, 11:33
What will happen if say 4 people sign for the group buy? Or if it ends up just me and bird wanting the map?

Also, If Forge produce a TIP for the Mk4 before the remap date, would you be able to get it? So I could fit it before the remap.

P-torque.co.uk
23-10-2006, 11:53
Hi Ric

We'll have to discuss options depending on the results of the Group Buy.

I will chat to the chaps at Forge with regards to the intake. Either way, it can be done before or after the re-map

evo2345
23-10-2006, 12:35
Im Intrested ,But i have a few Querys.

1. Im currently running near 160bhp at the moment (as rolling roaded on saturday), if i was to remap what BHP and Torque can i expect?. Im looking for205-210bhp is this capable?

2. is the map able to be turned off and put back to stock??

P-torque.co.uk
23-10-2006, 12:47
Im Intrested ,But i have a few Querys.

1. Im currently running near 160bhp at the moment (as rolling roaded on saturday), if i was to remap what BHP and Torque can i expect?. Im looking for205-210bhp is this capable?

2. is the map able to be turned off and put back to stock??


Hi There

200-210bhp is definately the right target.

As for torque, its too difficult to predict, but rest assured it would impressive!

The re-map can be reverted back to standard free of charge if you needed.

evo2345
23-10-2006, 12:51
Hi There

200-210bhp is definately the right target.

As for torque, its too difficult to predict, but rest assured it would impressive!

The re-map can be reverted back to standard free of charge if you needed.


Thats sounds great, Would the car need to be brought back to yourself to be put back to standard or is there a program which would allow me to do it??

P-torque.co.uk
23-10-2006, 12:55
Thats sounds great, Would the car need to be brought back to yourself to be put back to standard or is there a program which would allow me to do it??

Hi

The car would need to come back to be reverted.

The modules are very expensive, even at trade, which bumps the price up by £100's

Taking into account the amount of times you'd need to revert, you shouldn't find it a problem ;)

evo2345
23-10-2006, 13:05
do you take credit cards??? or is it cash only

P-torque.co.uk
23-10-2006, 16:47
do you take credit cards??? or is it cash only

Credit card payments are accepted via our Business Paypal account. Other than that cash or cheques are also accepted.

cupracooper
23-10-2006, 17:29
Hi Mate

Its not that simple I'm afraid.

The ECU either has to be flashed on the bench, using Boot mode, or the Eprom has to be de-soldered.

Trust me, myself and other tuners both in UK and elsewhere are fully aware of this problem. OBD tools do not read the address affected, therefore it remains.

So if my cars had a Revo "FREE" trial i'm fubar'd.
Can a Revo dealer flash my car back to stock correctly?

P-torque.co.uk
23-10-2006, 17:31
So if my cars had a Revo "FREE" trial i'm fubar'd.
Can a Revo dealer flash my car back to stock correctly?

Hi there

Yes, I believe they can.

Ric 2001
25-10-2006, 10:26
Just been looking over your 1.9 TDI PD Re-map Group Buy, as previous mentioned you will be offering 2 dyno plots, one before, and one after the remap.

Just a couple of more questions:

Will the remap allowed for modifications i.e. exhaust, CIA?

As quoted "Whenever I re-map a customers car, I jump in the passenger seat after its tuned, giving them the chance to test drive the car" – Is there some good roads to test it out upto legal speeds?

And you'll get all this for £250 if there are 5 people willing.

Brilliant

P-torque.co.uk
25-10-2006, 11:05
Hi There

There is not a before and after Dyno run, but yes, everything else is correct.

My usual test route is a national speed limit dual carriageway. The test run is not all about going as fast as possible though (well maybe :banned: ;) ) but mainly so that the customer is happy with the general running of the car after the map.

Depending on the extent of the mods, then yes, these will be taken into account. By extent, I mean there is no point in mapping around a back box only system, as this is negligable. If however you have a full system, FMIC, etc etc these can be taken into account.

TimBarratt
25-10-2006, 11:32
Do you have any plots showing the bhp and torque curves from a remapped 1.8T? I can't find any on your web site. Im looking for a smooth remap like Custom Codes rather than something harsh like Revo

Crafoo
25-10-2006, 11:34
Is it possible to have the map tailored to those who always run their car on a higher octane fuel say V-Power or Tesco 99 and what are the consequences if the car cannot be fuelled up with the higher octane fuel after the map has been done?

Cheers.

P-torque.co.uk
25-10-2006, 12:47
Do you have any plots showing the bhp and torque curves from a remapped 1.8T? I can't find any on your web site. Im looking for a smooth remap like Custom Codes rather than something harsh like Revo

Hello Tim

We can programme the ECU to suit you.

If you want an aggressive surge, or smoother but strong map, then this is no problem.

Please e-mail me for dyno plots

Cheers

TimBarratt
31-10-2006, 10:27
What bhp and torque figures could you get from a 1.8 T Leon Cupra?

Dan Cupra R
01-11-2006, 14:54
Hello Tim

We can programme the ECU to suit you.

If you want an aggressive surge, or smoother but strong map, then this is no problem.

Please e-mail me for dyno plots

Cheers


I am intrested & willing to travel up to wolverhampton for this.
I currently have a fund set up for a Jabba re-map @ £495 which I am more than willing to pay.

As yours is so cheap I do worry that this sounds too good to be true. What gurantees does this come with? Do you still have spaces left?

Some more info & you could twist my arm.........

im all ears

Dan Cupra R
01-11-2006, 14:58
...also on your website you quote an Ibiza 1.8T (180BHP) to gain 40 BHP from the remap?

Sorry if I seem rude, But whether its £250 or £500 its alot of money.

P-torque.co.uk
01-11-2006, 15:19
...also on your website you quote an Ibiza 1.8T (180BHP) to gain 40 BHP from the remap?

Sorry if I seem rude, But whether its £250 or £500 its alot of money.


Hi Dan

The re-map offers a 35bhp - 42bhp increase. This is dependant on the engines age, which map you prefer etc etc.

I do a lot of work on these engines, and my guarantee is that if you are unhappy with the results in any way, then the the ECU will be adjusted, or returned to standard with a full refund.

I have never had an unhappy customer yet.

Let me know if you would like me to put your name down ;)

P-torque.co.uk
01-11-2006, 15:21
What bhp and torque figures could you get from a 1.8 T Leon Cupra?


Hi Tim

I have received your e-mail and will send you the dyno results shortly.

Sorry for the delay, its been crazy here.

Dan Cupra R
01-11-2006, 16:46
Hi Dan

The re-map offers a 35bhp - 42bhp increase. This is dependant on the engines age, which map you prefer etc etc.

I do a lot of work on these engines, and my guarantee is that if you are unhappy with the results in any way, then the the ECU will be adjusted, or returned to standard with a full refund.

I have never had an unhappy customer yet.

Let me know if you would like me to put your name down ;)

Ok then,

Your on, put my name down for £250. What day/date you looking at?

I cant do the 9th november but any other day is fine.

Can you PM me all info?

evo2345
01-11-2006, 17:08
Count me in too Please. What day are you looking to do this. Im only up the road so im free most days

Dan Cupra R
01-11-2006, 17:17
After a lot of interest with the diesel Group Buy, I am offering a GB for the 1.8T owners (Flashable only, i.e 2000 onwards)



What you mean by Flashable?:confused:

Cupra_power
01-11-2006, 19:16
I am interested, when will this be taking place ?

P-torque.co.uk
01-11-2006, 20:02
What you mean by Flashable?:confused:

It doesn't include chip changes. ;)

P-torque.co.uk
01-11-2006, 20:03
I am interested, when will this be taking place ?

Hi There

The re-maps will be carried out by the end of November.

I only need 2 more members now

Ric 2001
02-11-2006, 09:38
The re-maps will be carried out by the end of November.

Could you give an exact date, because I'll have to book a day off work.

What you mean by Flashable?:confused:

Since the early 1990s, most engines have been controlled by an on-board computer, the engine control unit (ECU), which amongst other functions, defines the ignition timing, fuelling and boost pressure for all given engine speeds and loads.

In most cases this remapped programme is installed electronically and remotely through the car’s diagnostic port. There’s no replacement chip, and this don’t touch the ECU itself.

Dan Cupra R
02-11-2006, 09:49
It doesn't include chip changes. ;)

Got ya!;)

Dan Cupra R
02-11-2006, 09:50
Stick my name down, Im in. I just need the lowdown - directions, when etc etc.

But yeah count me in

P-torque.co.uk
02-11-2006, 10:32
Only need 1 more member now guys!

TimBarratt
02-11-2006, 10:33
I never got your email with the plots

Cupra_power
02-11-2006, 14:33
If you could post up a link to the kw and Nm plots, I would also like to see the graphs.

Dan Cupra R
03-11-2006, 11:04
It works with the 4bar fpr so my advice to all you guys getting this done make sure you get a 4bar fpr installed as this will give an extra 10 bhp.

Will when will this take place ? im definatley in so put my name down mate.

Where do you get these & how much?

Am I right in thinking this is a Fuel Pressure Regulator?:confused:

Yaboy
03-11-2006, 11:35
Sorry Will im gonna have to pull out this offer.

P-torque.co.uk
06-11-2006, 11:23
Sorry Will im gonna have to pull out this offer.

No Problem.

Did you know who continue to be unfair?

Dan Cupra R
06-11-2006, 11:26
are we waiting on one more person for this to be confirmed?

P-torque.co.uk
06-11-2006, 11:43
are we waiting on one more person for this to be confirmed?

Hello Dan

Yes indeed.

Just 1 more then I can start arranging dates

Cheers

evo2345
06-11-2006, 13:00
Will, Would the performance increase if i was to buy a 4bar FPR before remapping ????

P-torque.co.uk
06-11-2006, 14:46
Will, Would the performance increase if i was to buy a 4bar FPR before remapping ????


Hi There

Yes, I can map the car to have improved performance with a FPR fitted.

Yaboy
07-11-2006, 10:37
No Problem.

Did you know who continue to be unfair?


Im not with you mate ? Did you know who continue to be fair ? :confused:

CH1
07-11-2006, 13:21
So if my cars had a Revo "FREE" trial i'm fubar'd.
Can a Revo dealer flash my car back to stock correctly?

This sounds a bit like the code Microsoft leave behind on your PC when your download a trial version of their software. Always thinking ahaed aren't they....


I maybe interested in this have a std 1.8T -do we have to travel to you? or do you come to us? How long does it take? whats the effect on fuel economy? and can performance be tweaked to make it more responsive and quicker to accelerate at start, initial power?

P-torque.co.uk
07-11-2006, 16:36
Im not with you mate ? Did you know who continue to be fair ? :confused:

You called me bacause a company wanted to charge £60 for doing nothing

Yaboy
08-11-2006, 05:31
ok well Im getting a rolling road remap done and they said if I have had the revo trial they can still map my car at the same price , Its not fair people have to pay to revert to stock after revo trial .

Dan Cupra R
10-11-2006, 15:08
I see were still waiting on one more person for this. If there are only 4 people up for this will this still go ahead?

P-torque.co.uk
10-11-2006, 15:44
This sounds a bit like the code Microsoft leave behind on your PC when your download a trial version of their software. Always thinking ahaed aren't they....


I maybe interested in this have a std 1.8T -do we have to travel to you? or do you come to us? How long does it take? whats the effect on fuel economy? and can performance be tweaked to make it more responsive and quicker to accelerate at start, initial power?

Hi

I need the car with me in Wolverhampton. The process takes around 1 1/2 - 2 hours.

Fuel economy will stay similar,or even improve when driving normally.

Yes, the programme canbe tweaked if you want more lower down.

P-torque.co.uk
10-11-2006, 15:44
I see were still waiting on one more person for this. If there are only 4 people up for this will this still go ahead?

Hi Dan

Ideally I need 1 more member.

Failing that, I'm sure something can be arranged ;)

Dan Cupra R
10-11-2006, 15:50
Hi Dan

Ideally I need 1 more member.

Failing that, I'm sure something can be arranged ;)

Sweet,

Shame i dont know anymore 1.8T drivers
;)

P-torque.co.uk
10-11-2006, 15:53
Sweet,

Shame i dont know anymore 1.8T drivers
;)


hehe

Dont worry, Im not going to suddenly let everyone down.

I'll give it this weekend, then we'll start arranging dates! :funk:

evo2345
10-11-2006, 15:59
is it possible to have mine remmaped when Rick has his done, Only that we have pretty much the same car and i belive they both map to the same??

P-torque.co.uk
10-11-2006, 17:48
is it possible to have mine remmaped when Rick has his done, Only that we have pretty much the same car and i belive they both map to the same??

Hi There

Results are similar, but every engine will differ slightly when mapped and as standard.

The map is not the same anyway, as each car will be re-mapped from its individual ECU data.

Dont get me wrong, I dont mind you coming at the same time, but there is no benefit from doing this

evo2345
10-11-2006, 18:05
can my Fr 150bhp be maped to what a 180bhp cupra would be tho?. I no the maps are different as standard from seat but all the internals are the same and i have the FMIC as the cupra. The only reson i say this is revo state both engine will map out the same with there maps and i have seen it for my self that both engines/cars produced pretty much the same on a rolling road

Ric 2001
13-11-2006, 08:03
hehe

Dont worry, Im not going to suddenly let everyone down.

I'll give it this weekend, then we'll start arranging dates! :funk:

Hi Will

Well the weekend is over so, could I ask some questions:

1. Are you open saturadays, if so can I get booked in for 18/11/06?
2. I want to pay via credit card could you send me the details of what to do via a PM please.
3. Whats the price going to be?

Cheers

Ric

P.S

can my Fr 150bhp be maped to what a 180bhp cupra would be tho?. I no the maps are different as standard from seat but all the internals are the same and i have the FMIC as the cupra. The only reson i say this is revo state both engine will map out the same with there maps and i have seen it for my self that both engines/cars produced pretty much the same on a rolling road
Are you getting a full exhaust system, thats the only (mechanical) difference I think between mine and yours?

evo2345
13-11-2006, 08:52
Are you getting a full exhaust system, thats the only (mechanical) difference I think between mine and yours?[/QUOTE]


No at this current time. i will be in the near future tho.


Also i wish to pay by credit card so can details please be sent on to me too.

P-torque.co.uk
13-11-2006, 09:31
Morning Guys

Please e-mail me at info@p-torque.co.uk so we can start arranging dates.

Saturdays are very difficult at the moment, as they are all busy up to Xmas

Dan Cupra R
13-11-2006, 10:38
Morning Guys

Please e-mail me at info@p-torque.co.uk so we can start arranging dates.

Saturdays are very difficult at the moment, as they are all busy up to Xmas

Will,

I have e-mailed my details to you from my work e-mail address. Any problems give me a shout. ;)

Dan

azza1985
16-11-2006, 15:00
If this is still going im in, Im based in the midlands any way

P-torque.co.uk
16-11-2006, 16:15
If this is still going im in, Im based in the midlands any way

Hi There

Yes it is, there is 1 more slot out of the 5 left at £250.

The other 4 members have already booked their dates

Cupra_power
16-11-2006, 21:20
I have sent my details to schedule a date.

azza1985
17-11-2006, 00:02
Well im in then, do you want me to email you for other details?

P-torque.co.uk
17-11-2006, 11:02
Well im in then, do you want me to email you for other details?

Yes please, send me an e-mail with your questions/details

Thanks

Cupra_power
13-12-2006, 10:54
Had the remap applied yesterday, excellent service and very happy with the map. If anyone is thinking of getting a map done, give p-torque a look, reasonable price, good service. Not much more you could ask for.:thumbup: