flip key info thread [Archive] - SEAT Cupra.net

gazjones

04-11-2006, 19:12

after trying to find some info out and with lots of different things about i decide to try and help people out by compiling all the stuf i used and found out to swap to a flip key
1 you will need a vw skoda or seat flip key with two buttons of ebay or anywhere with the mhz rating as your key. most prob 434mhz like mine and some are 433mhz and harder to get hold of.
2 try and get one with a blank blade
3 get that cut to your car at security place or somwhere that casn cut these keys
4 to change the imobillisor chip you need to seperate the flip key top and botton
5 then remove the badge( took me ages to figure out why i couldnt slipt the top bit!) you will then see a small screw undo this then the key will open up to reveal a little cylindrical chip.
6 you then need to open up your spare key the one with no remote this is easy did it with my nails and in that you will see a bit of white rubber and under this in the chip place this in your flip key and put flip key one in hear for now! to keep it safe
7 then reassemble the key and get seat badge from dealer
8 to code the remote you need the old original key in the ignition with it turned on then lock the door with the new key remove key then press unlock and horn will blip wait 6 second and press unlock again the key is now coded to your car!

cost about 30 quid including new badge and plenty on ebay
the key part no. i got and that i know works is HLO 1JO 959 753 AG
this is of a bora and mine was only 6 months old so the news batch of keys do still work!

hope this gives you the info you need
cheers gaz

stoneyfordNI

04-11-2006, 19:51

and dont break the transponder when putting the two halves of the key together:cry: [:@] :censored:

gazjones

04-11-2006, 20:25

good luck yea the spare will set alarm off if ignition is not turned on pretty quick if door is opened with the key make sure your key is 434mhz its on the side of the key

Nath.

04-11-2006, 20:42

good luck yea the spare will set alarm off if ignition is not turned on pretty quick if door is opened with the key make sure your key is 434mhz its on the side of the key

yeah it's 434mhz

it's a little confusing cos on ebay I have found a "3 function one" with the same part no as some 2 button ones hlo.1jo.959.753.ag

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-VOLKSWAGEN-BEETLE-PASSAT-REMOTE-FLIP-KEY-FOB_W0QQitemZ230045618895QQihZ013QQcategoryZ9889QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

gazjones

04-11-2006, 20:45

thats ah at the end but thats the person i bought it off need to be 2 button and that ends in ag 3 button is ah

Vicky M

05-11-2006, 19:00

anyone who removes the VW badge to unscrew the key fob,
this is the part number for a SEAT replacement [B)]
1M0 837 891A and costs £2.68+vat..

gazjones

05-11-2006, 19:04

yep thats same price as i was told by the dealer but for some reason he looed on etka under ibiza theni had to tell him its under lcr! came up as discription chrome and blue!!! sure they are chrome and black!

BJM

05-11-2006, 23:30

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-VOLKSWAGEN-GOLF-MK4-REMOTE-KEY-COMPLETE_W0QQitemZ180046400078QQihZ008QQcategoryZ9889QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/vw-2-button-remote-key_W0QQitemZ170046014887QQihZ007QQcategoryZ9889QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/vw-2-button-remote-key_W0QQitemZ170046016977QQihZ007QQcategoryZ9889QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
for the people with 433mhz keys thats for you! wil post up more if i find them!
last to will ned new blades but they are about 4 quid for two on ebay! and held in with a pin!

Cheers for that - my searching method was pants! Watching 6 on ebay now so hopefully get one soon.

Where have you guys been geting the blades cut - Timsons? or does it need to be a specialist? How much to get the blade cut? On or off of the key fob? So many questions!:doh:

gazjones

06-11-2006, 07:38

think timsons do it i got mine done at local security place and it is done on the key so no need to remove the blade cost me 5 quid for cutting

SpareMan

06-11-2006, 15:37

BJM

06-11-2006, 16:58

For what is worth the 2 button flip key for MK4 Ibiza (as well as Mk1 leon) is
1J0 959 753 CT
corresponding key (which will be cut if ordered through a dealer) is 6L0 837 246 B INB

Now then about the frequency . . . THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 433 AND 434 MHZ. The correct frequency for all VWG cars in the UK is 433.92MHz. Some people round it down to 433, others up to 434 but they are the same.

So why does the key for my car have printed on the side of it 433MHZ and some others have 434MHZ. Surely the keys are all manufactured by the same people so if they were all the same frequency then they would all same the same thing on the side? Also, looking on ebay (not the experts, I know), there are 3 different part no.s for VW flipkeys, 1 for 433, 1 for 433.92 and 1 for 434.

My car's key is a Hella one and has this on the side:

730 955-00
433MHZ 5FA 007 680.

Bearing in mind that the 433MHZ keys on ebay are going for more money than the 434 and 433.92, are you saying it doesnt matter which one I get, I will be able to set it to my car?

This isn't a rant by the way, I'm just very confused. :doh:

SpareMan

06-11-2006, 17:18

As I said they are all the same, it is just semantics. Call any Audi, VW, Skoda or SEAT dealer and ask for the EXACT frequency on their version of ETKA and they will all be 433.92MHz.

The parts are different prices because they are probably different parts. In addition to the flip key part number I gave you there are three other flip keys for various SEATs of various ages, one is 3 button, the other two are 2 button. They are not all the same price.

So yes all those remotes will work on your car as long as you can get a blade cut that fits them

BJM

07-11-2006, 13:13

Glennolls

10-11-2006, 22:23

Expecting my 434 any day mate, I'll let u know how it goes.

Thanks, I await with interest to see if it all works!

Out of interest where have people got their new key blades cut? Do the likes of Timpsons do them or is somewhere more specialised required?

Nath.

10-11-2006, 22:28

just had a look at a vw flip key

it is well easy to take apart and fit the chip thingy from the spare key, also the spare key comes apart with finger nails

however if the ebay key comes with a chip in it you will need to brake the chip in order to remove it as it is glued in

if it comes without a chip, so much the better

fingers crossed :)

gazjones

11-11-2006, 09:09

my old chip wasnt glued in my flip key if you shake it you can hear a little rattle thats the chip and i belive timpsons wil be able to do it know afew people that have had it done there

TINCAN

11-11-2006, 17:14

is this the same then for leons?, sorry bit confused......i know my keys a 433mhz one..... could i therefore do the same and buy a 433 one off ebay and transfer my spare key chip (with no remote) into the new flip key and it will work the same as remote... ie lock, alarm, imobiliser etc

Thanks

Nath.

11-11-2006, 17:31

I don,t see why not

what does the owners book say about re programing the key?

I thought leons came with a flip key

stoneyfordNI

11-11-2006, 17:39

have you a part number for the badge for the key , is it a seat or vw one

Nath.

11-11-2006, 17:41

1M0 837 891A and costs £2.68+vat..

seat logo badge

thanks to vicky m

Nath.

11-11-2006, 17:44

glad its all work nathwarr its pleasing when it all works for about 30 quid! went to dealers to pick my badge up today! asked for it last weekend got there today somone forgot to order it for me!!!!!!!! bad thing is ive given my vw badge away to bloke at work who has a vw flip key but no badge, so got another week to go with no badge at all on my key!

the vw one is the same as what they stick on the owners book

Nath.

11-11-2006, 18:36

some pics if anyone is interested

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g217/nathwarr/key1_resize.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g217/nathwarr/key2_resize.jpg

note the blade is now polished brass as the silver got scratched during cutting

BJM

11-11-2006, 23:15

I'm so jealous! Still not recieved my key - good to know Timsons cut the blades though. What do you guys think about the whole "their all the same frequency" debate? At least either way I can amswer the question for those asking - and then try and source myself a 433 key!

BJM

12-11-2006, 16:57

all I can say is that my new flip key is 434mhz as ordered and that the instructions for programing it into the car worked first time

Just out of interest mate - what part number and frequency was your original remote key?

Cheers.

Nath.

12-11-2006, 17:13

the info on the side of my original key is

hella434mhz008444008548

it has a large "c" and a large "e" and a large "!" in a circle, then it has 0678 then 5fa

hope that helps ya :)

Funkyfin2000

15-11-2006, 16:07

interesting about this mhz stuff.....

doesn't matter what frequency still all works?

SpareMan

15-11-2006, 16:28

interesting about this mhz stuff.....

doesn't matter what frequency still all works?

Thanks BJM (interesting acronymn to thank) for your thanks . . .

Yes funkyfin, go look at my posts earlier in the thread.

The remote frequencies are listed in a number of ways (433MHz, 434MHZ, 433.92MHz, 433.92-434.42MHz) but its semantics. All remotes in VW group cars use the same frequency regardless of what it says on the fob (may not be restricted to VWG cars). In fact this frequency is used over most of the world. Some countries in Asia and also Mexico use 315MHz but they are the exceptions.

TINCAN

15-11-2006, 16:32

Funkyfin2000

15-11-2006, 16:43

Thanks BJM (interesting acronymn to thank) for your thanks . . .

Yes funkyfin, go look at my posts earlier in the thread.

The remote frequencies are listed in a number of ways (433MHz, 434MHZ, 433.92MHz, 433.92-434.42MHz) but its semantics. All remotes in VW group cars use the same frequency regardless of what it says on the fob (may not be restricted to VWG cars). In fact this frequency is used over most of the world. Some countries in Asia and also Mexico use 315MHz but they are the exceptions.

So basically what you are saying is i cam buy off ebay any VW/SEAT remote with any frequency and it will be programmable!

Why on earth does everyone say you must get the same frequency key!!!!

I just sold a 434mhz one coz im holding out for a 433.92 one!!!!!!

BJM

15-11-2006, 16:44

so would my spare key with no remote have a immobliser glass tube in which i could remove and put into the new flip key and then just program the new key via the manual?

THerefore being left with a spare key which is a remote one and then the flip as my main key?

Going to check out keymans auction if so......

can't find a keyman ebayer.... is that definately the name ?... just want to make sure!!

Thanks to Spareman for the info and also BJM

Thats about the height of it mate - you would also need to get the flip key blank cut aswell. The sellers name is actually Keymanuk99

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-Golf-MK4-Bora-Passat-Remote-Flip-Key-Fob_W0QQitemZ290048618816QQihZ019QQcategoryZ9889QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Do it - its well worth it, makes the car feel a bit more upmarket:cartman:

BJM

15-11-2006, 16:47

So basically what you are saying is i cam buy off ebay any VW/SEAT remote with any frequency and it will be programmable!

Why on earth does everyone say you must get the same frequency key!!!!

I just sold a 434mhz one coz im holding out for a 433.92 one!!!!!!

This was my exact querie when I was told about it. In order to check this when my new 434 key came I programmed it before getting it cut - and it 100% works. Plus the new VW flip keys all seem to be marked 434 which means you can get a newer, less worn one. The one I bought was brand new!

Funkyfin2000

15-11-2006, 16:48

SpareMan

15-11-2006, 16:49

Funkyfin2000

15-11-2006, 16:50

BJM

15-11-2006, 16:52

for example something like this should work fine for me?

even though my original key is 433.92mhz....

this should work the central locking fine even if its 434mhz :

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-GOLF-MK4-BORA-PASSAT-2-BUTTON-FLIP-KEY-FOB-REMOTE_W0QQitemZ250050088690QQihZ015QQcategoryZ9889QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

spare man can you confirm?

That one should work mate however it looks a bit used and needs a blank blade. For a few quid more you can get a virtually brand new one with a blank blade already on it.

SpareMan

15-11-2006, 16:56

excellent....im looking for my seat ibiza mk3....

i already have a seat alhambra flip key which is the same frequency but i want to get another...

does the part number have to start the same? like HLO or anything like that?

Fin

Alhambra flip key comes as two parts, the remote fob (7M3 959 753) and the blade (7M7 837 246 INB). Remember you cannot order a blank key blade from SEAT UK, they will only supply a cut one.

BJM

15-11-2006, 17:02

But u can buy a blank off ebay for a fiver - dunno if it fits the bammer key though

TINCAN

15-11-2006, 18:20

just bought one myself from above link......will update once i get it see how i go........

thanks

Nath.

15-11-2006, 19:04

well my VW flipkey has worked 100% now for a few days but when I ordered the seat logo to stick on it I was told they are on back order with seat

anyone got a different part no that I can try to order

1MO 837 891A is the number I have on back order

thanks chaps

spyke85

15-11-2006, 20:05

Funkyfin2000

15-11-2006, 20:13

u can't reuse the transponder (the little glass capsule) after its been coded to a key once...

this is what your dealer will put in new for you and code to your clocks....

or im having an auto electriction guy do it for me...

spyke85

15-11-2006, 20:14

Thought it was just a case of using VAG Com to match the car to the key and didn't think new parts were needed.

Nath.

15-11-2006, 20:15

These new keys, do they come with a chip inside and is it this chip that is programmed to the car? Basically I have the remote key that came with my Ibiza but the spare is a non-remote one. Would my current remote one be useless if I was to get the flip-key?

what you do is get one of the vw flip keys, program it to unlock your car, get it cut, remove the immobilizer transponder from your non remote spare key and fit it in the flip key

then you have two remote keys one is the flipping one, the old non remote key will then not start the car but who cares

spyke85

15-11-2006, 20:17

what you do is get one of the vw flip keys, program it to unlock your car, get it cut, remove the immobilizer transponder from your non remote spare key and fit it in the flip key

then you have two remote keys one is the flipping one, the old non remote key will then not start the car but who cares

Ok, I am majorly confused. My spare key is solid plastic :confused: Nothing to come out of it

Funkyfin2000

15-11-2006, 20:21

BUT if you wan to have it additional to your spare key...

u will need a new transponder and have this coded to your car...

Nath.

15-11-2006, 20:51

Ok, I am majorly confused. My spare key is solid plastic :confused: Nothing to come out of it

if you prise apart your non remote key you will find a white rubber thing inside,

remove that and under it is the little glass tube immobilizer transponder thingy

Funkyfin2000

15-11-2006, 22:05

TINCAN

15-11-2006, 22:30

you remove the old transponder glass tube out of your spare key and place inside the new remote part, if the new remote has the transponder in you jsut remove and throw away and stick your spare keys one instead, the only problem is if you haven't got a spare key to take the transponder chip out of ......

Nath.

15-11-2006, 22:33

but what i am saying is that....

u won't get the key to starty your car unless the transponder has been paired to the car.

Once a transponder has been paired to a car u can't re pair it to a car....you have to get a new transponder....and then have it re paired...

any bought off ebay might not have new transponders in themm.....soe of them might be used...

the transponder from the original non remote key is already paired with the car and if removed and fitted to another (flip key) it will still work

the remote programing has nothing to do with the immobilizer transponder

trust me I've done this and it works and so do other peoples

the reason the transponder is taken from the non remote key is because re programing the transponder costs upwords of £80

Funkyfin2000

16-11-2006, 09:42

but.....u are still grasping what im saying...

im wanting to give myself 2 FLIP KEYS and 2 SPARE KEYS

so therefore, i will keep my original key transponder in it....and will ket my spare key with its transponder..

i will buy 2 flip keys and will have these coded to the car....my local auto electrician will put a new transponder in and use his equiptment to pair my two new flip keys to my car......for about £60....

BJM

16-11-2006, 13:28

The guy i bought mine from Keymanuk99 certainly sends then with the immobiliser chips inside them. They are glued in and a bit of a pig to get out. Mine popped out using a small flathead screwdriver and is under the TV cabinet somewhere!

Funkyfin2000

16-11-2006, 13:54

yeah they may be used or unused transponders...u just can't tell unfortuantly :D

Sisson

16-11-2006, 15:11

Will the three button keys work?

Or is it only the two button ones?

BJM

16-11-2006, 15:24

yeah they may be used or unused transponders...u just can't tell unfortuantly :D

I'm sure a used transponder can be "re-sync'd" to your car mate.

Will the three button keys work?

Or is it only the two button ones?

I know the boot button won't work as the kit isn't fitted to the car as std to pop it - unsure about the other 2 buttons though. I take it you have a 3 button key to hand, so many 2 button ones on ebay I take it you aren't going to buy a 3 button one instead?

If you've got one you can always check it by synching it to your central locking, don't need immob chip in it or blade cut to do this.

Funkyfin2000

16-11-2006, 17:38

Well i was told on good authority you can't re sync the transponder....

and when u code the key you need ALL of your keys with ya as well and they also do something with the clocks...

when i get my 2 new flip keys done i will tell you all what the guy does....

Nath.

18-11-2006, 14:55

also just realised i'm likely to brake the damded thing cos i've done nothing but play with it since i got it :lol:

heehee,

just like Homer Simpson,

key flips out....key folds in....key flips out....key folds in :bleh:

TINCAN

18-11-2006, 15:18

well got my key..... just have to get it cut and then code it...... old spare key had the immobiliser glued in as did the new one..... .bloody nightmare to get them out but got there eventually..... will update you once its done....

Nath.

18-11-2006, 16:18

:doh: :lol:
just been to SEAT to order my key badge and they reckon that the order number posted on this thead dosen't exist, and the guy also said that you can't buy those badges from SEAT:censored:

myself and others on here have ordered the flip key logo badge as posted on here (1MO 837 891A ) and the stealers have said it's on back order so will take 7-10 days

I ordered mine on the phone and told the guy the part number and he confirmed the description as (seat badge)

well it's been about 4 days for me so I will keep you posted

BTW the 3rd digit of the part no could be the letter o or the number zero but TBH a good parts guy should pick up on that

davels

18-11-2006, 16:24

:wtf: is my dealer playing at, first all the trouble with my turbo and now there lying about parts the do and don't DO!! thats the exact number i gave them:censored: :censored: :censored: gits

Nath.

18-11-2006, 16:29

did you get them to try o and zero ?

when I ordered mine I said I wasn't sure which it was and he said yeah Ive got it, it's a seat badge

so I,m still not sure but maybe someone will confirm

davels

18-11-2006, 16:39

he apparently checked O and 0 and he checked his computer according to him SEAT don't do SEAT flip key badges but if they did they would probably be the worst SEAT Badges in the world..
boom boom...

Funkyfin2000

18-11-2006, 17:13

he apparently checked O and 0 and he checked his computer according to him SEAT don't do SEAT flip key badges but if they did they would probably be the worst SEAT Badges in the world..
boom boom...

had a few problems getting it from dawn on here, but she got there in the end. said they couldn't find it either or supply it and then eventually got there!

Order it on here if your not getting anything from your local dealer..

TINCAN

18-11-2006, 18:10

i emailed the seller on ebay who is selling the VW ones ..... he says he can get them but wants me to comit to 100 of them from him to make it worth his while.... he says he has to buy in 500..

HE wants $1.50 .... thats one dollar fifty each badge.... free postage.... shame that i can't get rid of 100 or need that many lolol.....

Hope Seat dealers can get them or i might have to buy 100.... lol

BJM

18-11-2006, 22:32

I´ve ordered 10 from ebay mate - i´ll sort u out with one when they come. They should take a few weeks so I´ll PM you when they are here.

Nath.

18-11-2006, 22:52

I would be up for a couple of them if you wouldn't mind mate

let me know how much you want

TINCAN

18-11-2006, 22:53

nice one BJM.... just let me know the price mate...

Big thanks :)

davels

18-11-2006, 23:23

I´ve ordered 10 from ebay mate - i´ll sort u out with one when they come. They should take a few weeks so I´ll PM you when they are here.

who da man! you da man! [B)]

gazjones

19-11-2006, 00:09

my badge is on back order as well only taken 2 weeks to tell me that!

Funkyfin2000

19-11-2006, 09:34

be careful with ebay ones...

they are general not genuine ones.......they are fakes......

gazjones

19-11-2006, 09:36

not all of them are my key was read at vw and came up with all the car info on it so they are not fake (there many be some out there but the sellers mentioned are seling slightly used ones off writen off cars)

Sisson

19-11-2006, 10:36

Do we know if the 3 button ones work?

Easier to get hold of...

Funkyfin2000

19-11-2006, 12:05

i meant the badges are chinese fakes some of them!!!!

3 button ones should work as well....yup...

Nath.

19-11-2006, 12:21

i meant the badges are chinese fakes some of them!!!!

3 button ones should work as well....yup...

I had a go with a 3 button one on my fr and it worked but didn't pop the boot open with the 3rd button

gazjones

19-11-2006, 12:38

i meant the badges are chinese fakes some of them!!!!

3 button ones should work as well....yup...

sorry yea some are very cheap like 10 for 2 quid

TINCAN

19-11-2006, 20:22

well just to confirm that the flip key works on my leon so indeed the frequency does not matter.....

Thanks to all in this thread that gave me guidance etc...

Nice one....now just need that SEAT emblem for the flip key lol

Nath.

19-11-2006, 20:42

BX16V

20-11-2006, 00:49

Just found this thread from a cross post in the Leon forum :D

I've got a Seat badge thingy for a flip key sitting next to me - bought it in preparation for getting a spare flip to go with the standard one on my LCR, but haven't found one cheap enough for me :cartman:

Anyway, part number is 1M0837891AJGT (that's a zero for sure, by the way as I have zeros and o's to compare on the invoice!) and it's the black and silver one rather than the red one.

As posted before works out £2.68+VAT from dealer, which at least means no postage! Took 2 days to arrive for me, but I bought it 24th August so there's probably been a rush on since then!

Adrian

Funkyfin2000

20-11-2006, 09:13

yeah mine took about 2 weeks to come too.....

ive got 2 sitting at home at the mo ready to use on my flip keys :D

Anyway........

ive now won 2 434mhz keys off ebay and we will see if they work with a mk3 ibiza!!!!

I have my doubts guys.....

is the mk4 ibiza and leon Hella keys originally??? Because the mk3 ibiza flip key i have for it at the moment is a SIEMENS, not a HELLA.
Will this make a difference?

Will the 434mhz keys work...

this is NOW the question......

BJM

20-11-2006, 18:54

Mine was a Hella.

Funkyfin2000

20-11-2006, 20:04

ur original was??

yeah....hmmm

well time will tell boys and girls..

Glennolls

21-11-2006, 16:26

Big thanks to everyone on this thread for all of the info and know how regarding the keys.

I've now got myself a flip key for my Ibiza and all works fine (New key is 434MHz, old one is 433MHz). What's more i bought a 3 button one off ebay and the boot button works as well on my car!

The only problem i've got is that Timpsons have made a bit of a mess of cutting the blade and it feels like i am forcing it a bit when i turn the key in the ignition compared to my original key which is very smooth. Has any one else found this?

Anyway i've found a guy on ebay who can cut new blades just by having the keycode so i'm giving this a go as i don't want to damage anything just for the sake of buying a new blade plus its quite a reasonable price i thought... £7 for a new blade and cutting. I will post to let people know if this ebay key cutter is any goodwhen i recieve the new blade.

Saul

21-11-2006, 16:34

ummm, just a word of warning

if you send your key code to a guy off ebay, who cuts your key and sends it back to your home address................can you see where im going with this?

Glennolls

21-11-2006, 16:37

ummm, just a word of warning

if you send your key code to a guy off ebay, who cuts your key and sends it back to your home address................can you see where im going with this?

know what your saying and have thought about it but anyways its being posted to another address so i'm not worried about it

Nath.

21-11-2006, 18:11

timsons cut my key and it works fine

the only thing was some scratching of the blade down to the brass from the cutting prosess

so I used some fine sandpaper to polish the plating away to expose the brass

I think it looks ok, not as good as the dealer ones that are cut and then plated

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g217/nathwarr/key2_resize.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g217/nathwarr/key1_resize.jpg

gazjones

21-11-2006, 18:17

does any one know how to remove the key blade as mine is loose and want to pack it out and refit it do you just remove the pin? then pull the blade out?

gazjones

21-11-2006, 19:03

will try that any good tools lying around the house that work well?

AndyC567

21-11-2006, 20:51

Interesting thread this...

Right then, got my flip key, got my new HAA key blank, managed to program the remote to lock and unlock the car, managed to get the key bit of the flip thingy apart (have a pile of springs etc)..

Good so far..

Two things left to do, which I would appreciate some help from you guys who have done it.

1) How do you get the tiny pin out to fit the new key blank ?

2) How do you get the Transponder out of your non-remote key in one piece so it can be fitted to the new flip key ?
When I removed the unwanted transponder from the flip key, it broke into a million pieces and came out as dust !!

Many thanks for any advice that you guys can give.

Nath.

21-11-2006, 21:37

to remove the transponder without turning it into dust use a sharp blade like a scalpel to gently cut the glue away

the pin that holds the blank in can be pressed out with a pair of plyers and a 10mm bit of a (thick) paper clip, you know the large ones not the normal size ones......................it ain't easy I would probably use my vice and a small nut for the pin to press out into

good luck

Funkyfin2000

22-11-2006, 08:19

guys....

im trying to 434mhz hella key on my mk3 ibiza this afternoon...

whats the coding procedue?

AndyC567

22-11-2006, 10:35

im trying to 434mhz hella key on my mk3 ibiza this afternoon...
whats the coding procedue?

Thats the easy bit.....

To code the remote you need the old original key in the ignition with it turned on.
Then lock the door with the new key and the remove key.
Then press unlock and horn will blip, wait 6 second and press unlock again.
The key is now coded to your car !

I have done this succesfully, but the difficulty that I am having is getting the pin out to replace the blade (looks possible though), and getting the transponder chip out of my 'spare' key in one piece.

AndyC567

22-11-2006, 11:26

Yeah ut ive seen several different ways of doing it...

Andy have u actyally got a mk3 ibiza...

ive seen suggestions of keys in doors.... and then do it...

ive seen keys in ignition and do it....

sorry, no I don't have a MK3 Ibiza..

I have a MK2 Tolly..

Would of thout procedure was the same though ?

Funkyfin2000

22-11-2006, 14:00

hgmm unsure...i used this one to code it before with the seat alhambra key...

1 ignition on to red lights on dash
2 turn off immediately and pull key out
3 HOLD 1 of the buttons down (dont matter which)
4 PRESS the other 3 times ( with a SLIGHT pause) 1 . 2 . 3
5 watch led on key (should flash) and doors usually try lock/unlock
6 turn ignition key back on to red lights and wait 5 sec
7 key out again and test operation

Funkyfin2000

22-11-2006, 14:02

in fact ive seen the following for programming:

To code the remote you need the old original key in the ignition with it turned on.
Then lock the door with the new key and the remove key.
Then press unlock and horn will blip, wait 6 second and press unlock again.
The key is now coded to your car !

1 ignition on to red lights on dash
2 turn off immediately and pull key out
3 HOLD 1 of the buttons down (dont matter which)
4 PRESS the other 3 times ( with a SLIGHT pause) 1 . 2 . 3
5 watch led on key (should flash) and doors usually try lock/unlock
6 turn ignition key back on to red lights and wait 5 sec
7 key out again and test operation

How to program VW remote keys

1. Take the valet (original) key, put it into the ignition and turn the key to the
"on" position, just prior to starting the car.

2. Roll down the driver's side window (not required, but a good idea in
case there's a problem).

3. Exit the car and close the door.

4. With a second key, physically lock the doors (don't use a remote).

5. Take the first remote to be programmed, press one of the buttons and
the lights will flash once. Wait 10 seconds and press the unlock
button.

The doors should unlock. That first transmitter is now programmed.

6. Lock the door again (physically) with the key, (not the remote).

7. Press one of the buttons twice, the lights will flash twice. Wait 10
seconds and press the unlock button. The doors should unlock. The
second
transmitter is now programmed.

For a third transmitter press the button 3 times and for a fourth press
4 times.

Make sure that to test the newly program remotes, the original key is
removed from the ignition. Someone might be a bit frustrated trying to
test it with it still in 'program' mode.

If you are having problems check the key is right one for year of car,
the key and battery are good. Sometimes when trying to program the key
it won't turn in the ignition stopping you from following the rest of
the steps to program the key, when this happens it is the transponder
chip in the key that sends and receives info from the immobiliser for
starting the car, If this happens it will need to be synchronized/coded
to the immobiliser at a good local locksmith or other specialist to
proceed with the rest of the steps.

If you have a Ford Galaxy, VW Sharan or Seat alhambra-
Hold key in drivers door lock, turn to unlock 3 times, this illuminates red light in driver's door.Press and hold the unlock button on key and press the lock button 3 times to get light in driver's door flashing again.You galaxy remote key should now be programmed.

Funkyfin2000

22-11-2006, 14:36

SpareMan

22-11-2006, 16:20

Well guys...

guess frickin wat!

NONE of those work at all.....

I now have

3 flip key -

2 = 434mhz VW keys
1 = 433.92mhz Seat Alhambra Key

The Seat Alhambra key works fine........and codes fine with the following instructions, but the 434mhz keys won't code AT all..

1 ignition on to red lights on dash
2 turn off immediately and pull key out
3 HOLD 1 of the buttons down (dont matter which)
4 PRESS the other 3 times ( with a SLIGHT pause) 1 . 2 . 3
5 watch led on key (should flash) and doors usually try lock/unlock
6 turn ignition key back on to red lights and wait 5 sec
7 key out again and test operation

Any help appreciated...

Sparesman? Can you help? I am presuming that 434mhz keys won't work at all!!!!

Im guessing this must now be due to these being HELLA keys and the Seat Alhambra key being a SIEMENS key!

Please help if you can.

If anyone wants to purchase 2 Flip keys! then let me know!

Rich

As far as programming the key i don't know how to do that (except try a dealer or someone with VAGCOM?). IAlso i don't know whether a difference in makers will make a difference. Bear in mind that some of the keys that fit SEAT's were in fact designed originally for VW cars, SEAT just borrowed them. Might be worth starting a fresh thread and ask the questions
But as per my other posts the frequency on your key is irrelevant, the frequencies are the same ie 433.92 MHz, sometimes listed as that, sometimes with the .92 knocked off (ie 433MHz) or sometimes rounded up (ie 434 MHz).

Funkyfin2000

22-11-2006, 16:36

I have VAG.com but you don't code a key to central locking that way...

as i say my seat alahambra key works fine on it and codes the same way as my mk3 manual says.......

must be just that key that works eh!

Cehers dude!

Chemical Al

22-11-2006, 16:47

http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/cars/vw-remote-matching.html

SpareMan

22-11-2006, 17:25

Funkyfin2000

22-11-2006, 19:18

http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/cars/vw-remote-matching.html

unfortuantly you can't access these modules 35 or 46 on an ibiza mk3!

So how do you find out about the keys in VAG.com!!!

redtill

23-11-2006, 17:05

Nightmare:censored: Managed to break transponder chip from spare key.Now I have 1 spare and 1 flip key that do eveything except the immobiliser.Any Ideas?:( The transponder is still in the flip key,can I get the dealer to reprogram it for my car or is it a case of once the transponder has been coded to one particular car it can't then be reprogramed for another car?

justlivyalife

23-11-2006, 17:54

I believe that you can get the chip re-programmed but it might cost you?

Funkyfin2000

23-11-2006, 18:24

u can just find an auto key person in the yellow pages..

davels

26-11-2006, 13:08

looky what i got today:p
http://i115.photobucket.com/albums/n306/davels_2006/Photo-0021.jpg

blackmagicbeeza

28-11-2006, 13:51

hi peeps,

took the plunge and bought a flip key, in the process of trying to carry out the operation now..but..

where can i find the transponder chip/immobiliser chip in the original one? so i can replace it with my one?

ive enclosed a pic..anone like to point out where i can find it?

tid
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q250/fatboy2002/Photo-0150.jpg
:blink:

Funkyfin2000

28-11-2006, 15:52

its in the half with the key ....

take the badge off and screw out and prizr apart!

blackmagicbeeza

28-11-2006, 16:26

thanks for the reply..but ive screwed off the screw..but it doesnt prise off easily?

any more advice?

pic enclosed

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q250/fatboy2002/Photo-0150-1.jpg

Funkyfin2000

28-11-2006, 16:28

you really have to prize!!!!

HARD!!!!

Mine took ages to get off....but watch the spring doesn't spring out when it does suddenly come apart!!

blackmagicbeeza

28-11-2006, 16:40

okay funky..gunna give it a good prize..with very minimal nails!:)

blackmagicbeeza

28-11-2006, 16:41

funky..is it a case of pulling apart?or a slide motion?

blackmagicbeeza

28-11-2006, 16:46

okay..i had a quick look at how to get the transponder out from my "none" remote key..it looks pretty well wedged with the glue..

Glennolls

28-11-2006, 17:18

[QUOTE=blackmagicbeeza;1160169]

where can i find the transponder chip/immobiliser chip in the original one? so i can replace it with my one?

ive enclosed a pic..anone like to point out where i can find it?

QUOTE]

the chip is in the plastic section that the key blade attatches to. its a pain to get apart though. i found using a small screwdriver to prise the two halves apart worked ok.

blackmagicbeeza

28-11-2006, 17:31

thanks for your help guys.

can i ask where you put the flat head screwdriver? im finding it tough trying to prise it with out having takeing chucks out of the plastic.

i dont think ill have any of the plastic fob left soon...:rolleyes:

Glennolls

28-11-2006, 17:40

i used the screwdriver in the middle bit which will be hidden when you put the button part of the key back together with this section. sadly it does tend to adjust the plastic shape slightly!

justlivyalife

30-11-2006, 09:53

Right - I've read through this thread quite a lot and there are a few bits I don't understand.

Will a key with part number HLO 1JO 959 753 AG FREQUENCY (434MHZ) work with my new Ibiza? The current key doesn't have a frequency on the outside??

Will it code to my alarm and immobiliser by following the instructions?
Cheers

Chemical Al

30-11-2006, 10:10

the immob has to be done by a specialist (unless you transfer the transponder to the new key from the old.)

gazjones

30-11-2006, 10:12

i belive all the mk4 keys can be changed for flip keys as people with 434mhz and 433 have done it

justlivyalife

30-11-2006, 10:23

So just need to find a bargain flip key then - excellent.

It'll work with my alarm once I transfer the transponder thingy across won't it?

Chemical Al

30-11-2006, 10:27

you need to program the remote to the car and swap the transponder.

youll need to get one with a blank blade and get it cut too :)

gazjones

30-11-2006, 10:30

the transponder chip has nothing to do with the locking its just for starting the car but will work just look for the part no.s in the first thread as i know this key definatly works

justlivyalife

03-12-2006, 22:30

Would a 3 button remote work (just obviously the boot function wouldn't work as the solonoid isn't there??)

gazjones

03-12-2006, 22:33

they should work think people have said it does

Funkyfin2000

03-12-2006, 22:40

yeah 3 buttoin does...

confirmed 434mhz hella worked with mates mk1 leon 04 plate today when it had a 433mhz key as standard!

AndyC567

04-12-2006, 07:28

I just won another one for a mate for only £5.50 + £5.00 P&P..

It is a used key, so does show the usual signs of wear and tear though.

Bargain, works to, and came complete with new fitted uncut blade.

Couple of questions for you guys though..

1) What do you use to stick Transponders in the keys, if anything ?
2) What do you use to stick new SEAT badges on with ?

Thanks.

TINCAN

04-12-2006, 07:33

transponder just goes in the slot... however i just added a bit of glue, fron glue gun so can be easily peeled out if needed...... As for the badge i belive they come with a sticky back so just peel the back off and press on.........

davels

04-12-2006, 12:45

ah i used clear nail varnish (not mine) it's enough to hold in normal conditions but easy enough to flick off if needed

gazjones

04-12-2006, 12:46

nail varnish!!! :wtf: doubly sided sticky can be broken to get access to the screw!

davels

04-12-2006, 12:48

it acts as a very weak glue trust me, it took a day to dry and i've already had to take it off once to stick down the transponder, with no damage to badge,

SuperSimonJones

04-12-2006, 16:29

I might be being really dense but I have a standard key and there is nothing on it which indicates the frequency! I've checked both the main key (with remote) and the spare (without remote). Am I missing something here?!?!

Chemical Al

04-12-2006, 16:31

its in the side of the bit with the buttons on

SuperSimonJones

04-12-2006, 16:42

Right - I've read through this thread quite a lot and there are a few bits I don't understand.

Will a key with part number HLO 1JO 959 753 AG FREQUENCY (434MHZ) work with my new Ibiza? The current key doesn't have a frequency on the outside??

Nope, nowt there. T'wud appear that justlivyalife had the same prob. There's nothing on the new ibiza key fobs but for the CE mark!

SuperSimonJones

04-12-2006, 17:26

http://img416.imageshack.us/img416/2839/dscf2656ro9.jpg

http://img270.imageshack.us/img270/5342/dscf2657kc0.jpg

http://img109.imageshack.us/img109/5443/dscf2658ph6.jpg

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3368/dscf2659er3.jpg

http://img465.imageshack.us/img465/3186/dscf2660xs2.jpg

See for yourselves lads. There's nothing on the fob but for the CE mark

gazjones

04-12-2006, 17:30

as said before i belive all the cars are 433.92mhz vw have just put that actual figure, 434 and 433, on the keys over different time periods. people with 433 on there original keys have got working flip keys with 434mhz on them

BJM

04-12-2006, 19:49

Simon, my original key says 433 on the side - my flip key is a 434MHZ - so it doesnt matter - go for it, it's a great mod!

justlivyalife

05-12-2006, 15:09

Won one last night so hopefully it'll be here and sorted before the end of the week :D. Just need to order my SEAT badge... lols.

gazjones

05-12-2006, 15:11

cool you will start playing with it when bored flipping it out and back in lol

justlivyalife

05-12-2006, 15:14

Hehe yeah! :p A colleague has an Alhambra and she's broken hers 'cos she kept playing with it! :p.

Edit:

I only really wanted one because it's much nicer :D

gazjones

05-12-2006, 15:16

and you dont stab yourself in the leg!!!! kept anoying me loads

justlivyalife

05-12-2006, 15:17

Paid £20 for it so was quite a good deal :) Never had a flip key before so hope I won't become a victim of that! :p.

Have you found the key to be too 'big' compared to standard? A friend's dad has a Passat and he said he found the key pretty bulky?

gazjones

05-12-2006, 15:23

its heavier but sits better in your pocket and nice and neat

justlivyalife

05-12-2006, 15:25

Cool I'm not worried then :D. Can't wait for it to arrive lol (how sad do I sound...)

It's the only mod my car is getting between now and next Christmas I think... :p.

gazjones

05-12-2006, 15:26

i very much doubt it this site will make you do something

justlivyalife

05-12-2006, 15:28

Hehe... There's already a Remap on the cards for next Christmas :p. Unsure if a) I'll be able to afford it by then, and b) If I can I wouldn't be able to afford the insurance :p.

Nath.

06-12-2006, 11:13

got my seat logo for my flip key, It's all done now just stuck it on with a dot of superglue

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g217/nathwarr/2006-12-0610.jpg
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g217/nathwarr/2006-12-0617.jpg

justlivyalife

06-12-2006, 13:28

Looks well smart mate :) My key should arrive tomorrow :D

justlivyalife

07-12-2006, 13:37

key arrived... but it snapped while the guy was cutting it!!!!

he messed it up the first time, wouldn't go in the door so I took it back and he had a 2nd go during which the key snapped off the end!!

where's the best place to buy a new blade from??

justlivyalife

07-12-2006, 13:42

Oh.. how do I get the badge off to unsrew the top end?? Can't seem to get it off :(

gazjones

07-12-2006, 14:16

sharp object and pick the end so you can lever the badge up. and how the fcuk did he snap it! or get it wrong in fact!

justlivyalife

07-12-2006, 14:16

Don't know - was Timpsons. The key wouldn't go in the lock at all though which makes me think the blade was really crap quality.

Right got it apart now - now I've got this:

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/3640/brokengp0.jpg

How do I get the blade out??

gazjones

07-12-2006, 14:21

there is a little pin near where the blade sits in that bit that flips you will need to push it out and keep it then remove the broken bit

justlivyalife

07-12-2006, 14:22

Cheers Gaz will have a go now.

TINCAN

07-12-2006, 14:27

timpsons can cut blades but don't have the right kit to do it... the key holder does not hold it correctly...

Bloke in timpsons told me this and said while they can do it if they are careful it can also lead to the key snapping or being cut wrong....

Just get a new one of ebay and try again... only cost a couple of quid...

justlivyalife

07-12-2006, 14:29

Took it to the shed put it in the vice and hey presto - it's out :D.

Just bought a replacement blade too so fingers crossed eh...
Won't take it back to Timpsons... lol

Chemical Al

07-12-2006, 14:31

would it be better for them to cut it befor you replace it in fob?

justlivyalife

07-12-2006, 14:32

Hmm the guy @ Timpsons never told me any of that :(.

But yeah I've bought a new blade off eBay hopefully be here for saturday then I can fit that and go elsewhere to cut it?

justlivyalife

07-12-2006, 14:33

Not sure what you mean Al?

gazjones

07-12-2006, 14:34

dont put the key blade in the key go and get it cut first then fit it into the fob less change of breaking i would have thought

Chemical Al

07-12-2006, 14:35

Not sure what you mean Al?

hmm, it made sense in my head :whistle:

just give him the blank blade before you put it back into this part -

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/3640/brokengp0.jpg

justlivyalife

07-12-2006, 14:36

Would you say it was okay to get it cut @ Timpsons again - as he'll do it free for me cos he broke mine, or do I go elsewhere?? There's a lock & key place down the road that shud be able to do it too?

justlivyalife

07-12-2006, 14:37

Cheers for that Al & Gaz :D

TINCAN

07-12-2006, 14:42

not sure where else can do it mate..... its all to do with the key clamp....

justlivyalife

07-12-2006, 14:43

Where have you guys had yours cut??

TINCAN

07-12-2006, 14:50

i would use timpson again , maybe another shop of timpson.... i have two close by..........

could always ask the other shop!

TINCAN

07-12-2006, 14:52

Had mine done at Timpson, he told me about the clamps at the time and said all our clamps are the same its just a matter of the person cutting the key holding it still .......

AndyC567

07-12-2006, 16:39

Deffo get the key cut before you fix it back in the key..

I had problems trying to get the pin back in, got it started, then taped it a bit and it it ping'ed across the room..
Managed to find it after an hours searching, so be a bit careful.

Well worth fitting a new pin, did you get a new onw with your new blade ?

I got my blade and pin off ebay (Autodude I think he was called) which came from china..

The blade started a nice chrome colour, but then after it was cut, the grooves went a dull goldy colour.
As the original didn't do this, I can only think that my new blade is not as good quality as the original.

Does the job though..

AndyC567

07-12-2006, 16:50

Meant to ask, you guys who are playing with flip keys, are you planning to use Transponders out of syour pare keys, or get new Transponders to fit yor flip keys and then code to car ??

Just another word of warning really, if you do decided to use Transponders from your spare key, be very careful as the break very easily when they are removed.
I bust mine, and had to go along the route of getting a new Transponder, and then coding it to the car, which was loads of hassle !!

Still, I learnt loads and now know how to do it, so that is something I guess !!

Gaz, you were at the MK meet last night weren't you ?
So was I, I was going to have a word, but you were with the lot that disapeared outside.
Never mind, maybe next time..

Chemical Al

07-12-2006, 17:38

is there enough key to grip hold when its been cut if it is just the blade

AndyC567

07-12-2006, 17:45

is there enough key to grip hold when its been cut if it is just the blade
Yep, that was how my key blade was cut..

I then fitted it in the flip key using the pin etc once it was cut.

Chemical Al

07-12-2006, 17:52

how do the pins come out and can a pin be reused?

AndyC567

07-12-2006, 18:44

how do the pins come out and can a pin be reused?
They do come out if you use a small punch or a nail of a similar size to the pin..

Try and avoid the temptation of when it is part out, of using pliars to pull it the rest of the way, as this is what knackered my pin, it squashed where I gripped it.

Wasn't a problem though, as I got a new pin with my new blank blade !!

If you don't have a new pin, you should be able to re-use the old one as long as you are careful when you remove it.

I have heard of guys managing to remove the pin and blade and fit a new one without taking the plastic case apart at all.
The pin can be seen if you flip the key blade out about half way. I tried this, but you are working against the spring of the key all the time and it is very difficult to hold in the correct position.
I ended up taking the case apart and dismantling it all, but then if you fitting a new transponder you will have to do this anyway !!

Chemical Al

07-12-2006, 18:57

cool, great info there cheers :)

muffy

08-12-2006, 16:47

im having trouble programing my key to the car, fitted the transponder so it starts the car but cant seam to porgram it to open the doors.
ive tried 3 different way to do it but no luck, old key is 433 & so is the new key.
any ideas?

Chemical Al

08-12-2006, 16:56

what part no. you got?

muffy

08-12-2006, 17:00

what part no. you got?

hl01j0959753n

Funkyfin2000

08-12-2006, 17:05

im finding it so hard to find a seat alhambra one :@

Chemical Al

08-12-2006, 17:09

hl01j0959753n

not from vagproduct.com?

the chap has them for sale as i was going to get on but he said it wouldnt work with my car as mine was the newer ccm (? central conveniance modue ? maybe ) and the fobs were for the older ccm he said it need to be the "753 AG"

muffy

08-12-2006, 17:14

got it of ebay, cost £20. oh well back to looking for an 753AG then.

Chemical Al

08-12-2006, 17:19

HLO 1JO 959 753 A is 433mhz 2 button
HLO 1JO 959 753 AG is 434mhz 2 button

muffy

08-12-2006, 17:25

what about 753AH 3 button?

Chemical Al

08-12-2006, 17:31

yep 434, but has 3 buttons, you only need 2 but will work IIRC

muffy

08-12-2006, 17:55

just got another of ebay,753AG £24 posted:D
got to try & sell the other on ebay now.

CHR15B

10-12-2006, 11:58

Jus won my flip key on eBay for £20.62 - bargain :)

Will let you know how I get on, will need to order up a badge for it :)

justlivyalife

11-12-2006, 12:39

New blade arrived this morning - just had it cut at local lock & key for £1.76. Works in the door (well, it goes in) gonna attach it to the key tonight.

How do I cut out the old transponder for the immobiliser from my spare key?

gazjones

11-12-2006, 13:30

it shouldnt need cutting out the old original spare key just prise open the key then remove the cream colours rubber and the transponder will be loose, was in mine and then swap it with you one in your flip key, some are stuck in but mine wasnt and my dads work van one isnt

Funkyfin2000

11-12-2006, 13:52

yeah i thought the transponders were cut in?

a cream ribbon???

any pics?

gazjones

11-12-2006, 14:12

yep first page i belive

gazjones

11-12-2006, 14:13

post 6 you can see the cream colourd rubber retainer in my spare non remote key

Funkyfin2000

11-12-2006, 14:25

cheers dude, il take a look!

Funkyfin2000

11-12-2006, 14:26

i have to say post 6 pics arn't very good! :(

Bit blurry!

justlivyalife

11-12-2006, 16:58

There's none of that in my key.. It looks like it's stuck to the bottom :s
Any other ideas?

AndyC567

11-12-2006, 17:03

Mine was well stuck in...

My attempts to remove the Transponder resulted in dust, hence the start of my troubles..

Came out in about 1000 pieces :cry:

Funkyfin2000

11-12-2006, 17:07

any other help! :D

justlivyalife

11-12-2006, 17:08

Debating whether or not I can hacksaw the spare key apart? It's a bit of a worry though.... :s I have everything else just need to remove the transponder...

BJM

11-12-2006, 17:09

No rubber in mine either.Mine wasn't stuck in though t was just held in very tightly by a plastic clip. A bit of careful cutting of the clip with a craft knife and out it came.

gazjones

11-12-2006, 17:10

very fine blade to cut the glue out maybe not sure on anything else

Funkyfin2000

11-12-2006, 17:17

don't want to hack the key apart as want to be able to keep that...

cool

justlivyalife

11-12-2006, 17:20

Right I've been using a craft knife and it's now twisting around and around i just can't seem to get it to come out!! ARGH! :p

gazjones

11-12-2006, 17:22

just keep at it but be patient and dont brake it

justlivyalife

11-12-2006, 17:25

Yeah I keep having a rest 'cos if I break it I'm stuffed!!

justlivyalife

11-12-2006, 17:36

Slowly but surely working at it - it's now moving out slightly but not far enough!!!! ARRRGH lol.

I really think that patience is the key here though!!

justlivyalife

11-12-2006, 17:38

Woohoo It's OUTT!!!! Do I glue it into the new key or just pop it in??

gazjones

11-12-2006, 17:39

just pop it in incase you need to remove it again

justlivyalife

11-12-2006, 17:39

It won't break it rattling around will it??

gazjones

11-12-2006, 17:42

my dads vw van key rattles
my one i got rattled off ebay and was fine it dosent move much

justlivyalife

11-12-2006, 17:47

Right put it back together

Off to work now will see if it works :)

justlivyalife

11-12-2006, 17:54

Coded to car using instructions in post 1. it works

Thanks :D

just need to order SEAT badge.

blackmagicbeeza

12-12-2006, 00:56

hi just,

i could really do with your help:)

ive enclosed this pic

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q250/fatboy2002/Photo-0157-1.jpg

ive tried inserting a flat screwdriver into the circled area..with no luck..the bugger is a pain to get apart!

any tips?

Funkyfin2000

12-12-2006, 08:26

can no one in this place use MACRO on there photos!!!

justlivyalife

12-12-2006, 08:35

Firstly have you undone the screw underneath the badge??

I inserted flathead screwdriver along the blade (with it flicked in) and after some hard work it clicked open.

gazjones

12-12-2006, 10:05

undo the screw and it pretty easily opens up if not try prising it open from the top next to the blade with small knife or similar

Chemical Al

12-12-2006, 13:34

just trying to get mine open and its not budging at all:(

Chemical Al

12-12-2006, 13:36

open now, was lapsed in super glue :@

Chemical Al

12-12-2006, 14:06

Also has anyone managed to get a 2nd hand key coded to the immobiliser?

I spoke to a automotive locksmith and he said he has never managed it and that i would need to get a virgin transponder

Funkyfin2000

12-12-2006, 14:20

i was told this too Al...

virgin transponder needed...

justlivyalife

12-12-2006, 14:28

I think that SEAT/VW should be able to reprogram them?

Nath.

13-12-2006, 08:58

can no one in this place use MACRO on there photos!!!

yup!

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g217/nathwarr/2006-12-0617.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g217/nathwarr/2006-12-0610.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g217/nathwarr/butterfly1_resize.jpg

http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g217/nathwarr/butterfly2_resize.jpg

:whistle: :rolleyes: :p

Funkyfin2000

13-12-2006, 09:05

thats better :D

CHR15B

14-12-2006, 22:43

The VW badge initially is a pain to get out!

Funkyfin2000

15-12-2006, 09:09

naaa dead easy!

finally got the transpnoder out the spare key!!!

JOB DONE! :)

justlivyalife

15-12-2006, 15:50

Excellent!! Can someone confirm the part number for the SEAT logo as I've been told it doesn't exist by my dealer? (GK Derby).

davels

15-12-2006, 15:54

i got told this too:w4nk: but managed to get one by speaking to a different bloke. luckely he had one in his draw. this number on here is right but if it doesn't work try getting them to search for a lean cupra r key badge. i think thats what gazjones asked for when he ordered his iirc:shrug:

gazjones

15-12-2006, 15:57

yep i didnt have a part no and went for a seat leon cupra r one its the nice one as well with chrome ring not like the new ones all black with just s in it

gazjones

15-12-2006, 15:59

1MO 837 891 A thats the part no. on my invoice as well so it exists lol

justlivyalife

15-12-2006, 16:03

is that a Zero or an 'O'

gazjones

15-12-2006, 16:05

i dont know just ask them to try both think its a O

justlivyalife

15-12-2006, 16:06

Cheers Gaz :D.

AndyC567

15-12-2006, 16:46

1MO 837 891 A thats the part no. on my invoice as well so it exists lol
Yep, that the ones, I have those as well..

Cost about 6 quid for two..

Funkyfin2000

16-12-2006, 16:03

well my mates ke4y im doing today....

went to get it cut at two timpsons in stoke on trent...

first one said he could do it for £3.45 but can't gurantee it...went to do it and the key kept slipping out of his worn machine....

2nd guy had same problem but said he could still have a go but be £10!!!!!!

Told them to stick it...

man is that guy on ebay still cutting them from pictures?? i can't find him!

justlivyalife

17-12-2006, 00:28

I got mine done at a locksmith's. Lichfield Lock & Key... bit out of your way but it only cost me £1.76...

Funkyfin2000

17-12-2006, 12:48

interesting, whereabouts is that mate in lichfield. Will probably head down that way at some point...

Funkyfin2000

17-12-2006, 12:50

ahh is it down from tescos, at the crossroads with the lights on it and that pub is there too...

justlivyalife

17-12-2006, 12:50

It's just around the corner from Tesco's :)

It's in the same place as Lichfield Safe Centre - contact info: http://www.lichfieldsafecentre.co.uk/contact/contact.asp

Edit: yes :p.

Funkyfin2000

17-12-2006, 15:46

sweet cheers man, did they kick up a fuss about doing it?

complain that they couldn't gurantee it???

justlivyalife

17-12-2006, 17:52

Nope didn't say anything really! Just told me that he wouldn't snap it like Timspons did :p.

Funkyfin2000

17-12-2006, 21:52

sweet, u coming to the staffs meet on the 7th mate?

justlivyalife

17-12-2006, 21:57

Should be able to yep :D

Chemical Al

18-12-2006, 17:58

funkyfin - there is a place in shifnal that will laser cut them

Funkyfin2000

18-12-2006, 18:12

funkyfin - there is a place in shifnal that will laser cut them

whats it called dude? and how much?

Interesting....you used them??

Chemical Al

18-12-2006, 18:36

havent used them, found them while surfing www.tradeinpost.com they were my last resort if no one else more local could do it.

report back if you use them ;)

Funkyfin2000

18-12-2006, 21:39

cheers mate, il take a look

ouch £25!!!!!!!

CHR15B

18-12-2006, 22:52

Got my key cut today, split the key open and fitted the immob chip (Like a little glass pill).

When I opened the top half of the key, the old one just fell out :)

Good guide you have their Gaz, good mod I recommend.

Chemical Al

19-12-2006, 09:01

cheers mate, il take a look

ouch £25!!!!!!!

that £25 will include programing of a new key. would be a lot cheaper for just cutting.

daniel_owen_uk

19-12-2006, 10:42

Sorry for the daft question, but am I right in thinking this (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VW-2-BUTTON-FLIP-KEY-FOB-REMOTE-BLANK-BLADE-VIRGIN-CHIP_W0QQitemZ230067785237QQihZ013QQcategoryZ9889QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) will work with my 51 reg (2002) Leon Cupra? My remote key is useless.

Bought it now anyway, part no was HLO 1JO 959 753 AG so should be fine.

Chemical Al

19-12-2006, 17:21

yes

daveyonthemove

20-12-2006, 14:13

For anyone wanting the "S" Seat badge for the flip keys, but getting fobbed off by dealers, here is the number off the packaging for my badge that i received today.
1MO 837 891 A JGT And this was ordered through a VW garage with no problems. Don't let SEAT fob you off with this number!!
The total price (including VAT) is £3.15
Hope this helps some of you
Dave

Wardy TDi

20-12-2006, 14:19

I've been reading this thread with interest. I've one question, that I'm still not sure to the answer.

If I get hold of a key, probably a 434mhz model, can I check it will lock and unlock the car, without having to get the blade cut and the immobiliser transponder transferred across to the new key.

Apologies if this has been asked and answered previously, I must have missed it.

Steve

Funkyfin2000

20-12-2006, 14:45

Wardy TDi

20-12-2006, 17:11

That's what I was thinking. So basically I'm following Step 8 of Gaz's instructions in the first post?

8 to code the remote you need the old original key in the ignition with it turned on then lock the door with the new key remove key then press unlock and horn will blip wait 6 second and press unlock again the key is now coded to your car!

So I'm putting my standard key in the ignition - on Stage 2? But then it says 'lock the door' - does this just mean hitting the 'lock' button on the new flip key? As obviously I wouldn't have the blade cut yet to put it in the door!

Sorry if this sounds daft, but it's confusing me at the moment...

Cheers, Steve