Clutch Pedal Snapped. GUIDE [Archive] - SEAT Cupra.net

cupra_matt

21-11-2006, 19:31

The wife picked me up from work tonight and i found my biteing point had changed alot and there was a large amount of play in the pedal. Made it home and guess what..........the second i pulled on to my drive it snapped.

Its the common crap welds that have given way.

I read on here that steering column has too be removed........this is rubbish. I have removed mine with a phillips and flat screw driver.

Here's how.

Remove the plastic panel in underneath by removing 3 phillips screws. Remove that compartment under steering wheel.

Now remove the clutch pedal switch by screwing it out.

Remove the safety clip on the end of the pedal axle with the flat screw driver and remove the clip on the other end of axle (next too brake pedal.

Slide the axle along too the drivers side until the clutch pedal can be wiggled out of place.

Becareful not too get hit in th face by the over centre spring.

Here is what ELSA says with diagrams.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/matt_cupra/E30-0030.png

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/matt_cupra/E30-0029.png

Weld it up and refit simple.

Right iam off too weld mine up now.

Hope this is of some help to someone.

Matt

jonesya3

21-11-2006, 20:14

Not had mine snap yet but it will be a usefull guide when/ if it does :)

maybe it should be made a sticky

R953 VSE

21-11-2006, 20:23

After having done this myself the harder way i now feel stupid as this sounds much easier.

David_smith_909

21-11-2006, 22:32

Not had mine snap yet but it will be a usefull guide when/ if it does :)

maybe it should be made a sticky

same here, good guide, bookmarked anyway just incase its not put in the guides section or anything

adam614j

22-11-2006, 07:39

mine snapped last night on the way home from work!
gotta do this when i eventually get the car home...

would advise people to weld it before it breaks... I didnt realise quite how weak it is/was! mine snapped at low rpm, changing gear very gently and luckily at low speed.

Forbez

22-11-2006, 08:05

I think its disgusting that Seat are aware of a blatant problem, yet fu(k all is done about it!

On the smiley side, cheers Matt, im sure this will prove very useful, maybe with some pics too.

You also have a pm.

Cupra Gaz

22-11-2006, 15:03

Mines snapped on my way home from work one night. rendered the car completely useless. all that for a tiny peice of metal. This shocking fro seat there is obviously a production fault which could be bery dangerous. luckily most on here seem to have been driving slowly like myself when its happened.

in the end up It took me ages to get the pedal off. I took the drive by wire system out as well to give me more space. If only i realised there was an easier way :( This would have saved me hours. least its all nice and strong now

cupra_joe

22-11-2006, 16:25

so is this a common faulft with the cupras then, do you just take off the broken one and then fit a new one. no garage needed?

Cupra Gaz

22-11-2006, 16:56

so is this a common faulft with the cupras then, do you just take off the broken one and then fit a new one. no garage needed?

in my case there was little metal bar which held a clip for the cutch master cylinder to the pedal. This had snapped causing the plunger for the master cylinder to go straight through the pedal and the pedal to fall to the floor. I just welded a new piece of metal in which is a million times more stronger than the bit that broke. would get chraged a lot for the labour i imagine at a garage.

Martyn

22-11-2006, 17:00

Stuck :)

wazo

22-11-2006, 20:01

ive had this happenjust recently and its not nice due to the crappy weld on the pedal where the master cylinder arm goes into....... i suggest that any one with a cupra from x plate upwards that hasnt had it re-welded yet gets it done asap because it will break at some point

gmjgreg7

26-11-2006, 10:48

Clutch pedal broke on Friday when my wife was on her way home from work.

She was slowing down on the approach to a round about when it broke so was unable to get the car out of gear. Fortunately the traffic was light and she was able to pull it across onto the pavement where it stalled out. If there had been something in front of her, or if she'd been in slow moving traffic queue she could have quite easily run in to the back of someone - I'm sure that would have made for an interesting insurance claim! She was then stranded for the next hour before the recovery company rescued her.

According to my mechanic mk4 Golfs have suffered quite badly from this problem, by the looks of this SEATs will have the same sorts of issues. It cost me less than £50 to have it repaired by my garage (Midland VW), so surely SEAT need to do something about this and either make people aware of the problem and recommend carrying out the repair (maybe discounting the cost) or do a recall.

...Or they could just ignore it and wait for the insurance companies to start knocking on their door when they are having to pay out on claims for pedestrians getting run over at crossings by SEATs that the drivers can't get out of gear!

-Greg

strapper

03-12-2006, 17:14

Mine done it yesterday!

I shall follow this guide to fix it

Oswald

25-12-2006, 20:20

craigy123

11-01-2007, 12:16

i had a polo gti and it was the piviot in the pedal box that snapped, quite a commom fault in vags i think as my girlfriends lupo has just done the same thing! in both cases the steering colum had to be removed, not a chaep thing to get done from a vw garage, around £250, but my mate done it for £50

Big_A_Cupra20vt

14-01-2007, 00:58

i just fixed my pedal box (weld) and a new white plastic clip but now i have an epc warning light on i can only think its from taking the clutch sensor off and refitting it? im getting pissed of with my biza

Quikie

22-01-2007, 19:02

happened me today, from what i have seen so far the Ibiza is pretty un-reliable

Quikie

25-01-2007, 13:19

happened me today, from what i have seen so far the Ibiza is pretty un-reliable
£10 to fix tho so happy days! :)

Beaker™

25-01-2007, 20:06

Anyone know what happened to the 'ELSA' pictures in this thread?

cupra_matt

25-01-2007, 23:29

I was told by other forum members that i had stolen the software etc etc so i removed everything to do with elsa to cover myself.

Sorry

Matt

Beaker™

26-01-2007, 13:09

I was told by other forum members that i had stolen the software etc etc so i removed everything to do with elsa to cover myself.

Sorry

Matt

Ahh i see, fair enough mate :)

spinrs2k

29-01-2007, 12:54

My bloody clutch pedal snapped on saturday, its in a local garage now getting it welded back up :(

dolf

29-01-2007, 13:25

spinrs2k

29-01-2007, 18:56

i worry about this now everytime i drive.

does anyone have a picture of where it snaps and the weld needed to repair it? for the few quid it costs to repair it seems sensible to do it now, dont you think?!

i dont have a picure but when u look on the clutch pedal its pretty obvious where it needs welding. if you have the spare cash to have it weleded up now then for peice of mind i probably would, as its not a case of IF yours fails its WHEN ( so it seems from amount of people having the same thing)

mines all sorted now cost me £75 all in at a local garage to get it welded up bit steep i thought but just glad its sorted for work tomorrow :D

sixsr

02-02-2007, 14:09

My clutch pedal clicks everytime its put down, I'm concerned incase its beginning to fracture. Does this clicking normally happen?

dolf

09-02-2007, 18:55

Mine went today, it was one press soft, the next it's on the floor and its not coming back up. So it was little black ibiza on the back of big yellow recovery truck.

Anyway as I'm a busy busy ******* and love to complain I thought that now this has happened to me i will be writing to SEAT to get some answers (I read a thread a while back where someone wrote to them but the response they got was poor) but i am a tryer so i think i'll give it a go.

Anyway what i thought was if we could list everyone who's had this problem, their name, reg no, and how much it cost them to repair it might have more of an impact???

Good idea or not??

Also could I refer to SCN and it's members in the letter?? Mr Administrator??.

Thoughts please. Details could be P.M.ed

lil kev

21-02-2007, 09:43

had my clutch pedal welded up last night and im in the middle of putting it back on the car but i havent got much patience :whistle: and dont really know whereto start :redface: , i have put the little which clip back on and cant get the spring to stay in place whilst i push the pedal onto it? do i put the pedal on first and try and squash the spring on at the end or just persavier?

Ninja

27-02-2007, 15:04

grrrr mine has just snapped during my lunch break.. Not a happy bunny after spending nearly a grand getting it fixed in the last 2 weeks..

Will be reading this guide later lol

:cry:

lil kev

28-02-2007, 00:14

Well its quite simple to fix and if you snap the white clip just go to your nearest scrap yard coz the clip from a mk 2 ibiza is the same as ive found out lol :lol:

Ninja

28-02-2007, 16:14

Right i managed to get my pedal off today.. Took a while and didnt appreciate the steering wheel in the chest lol.

Anyway i cant believe how crap the original seat welds are :confused: not surprising its snapped really!

Anyway took a couple of pics so people know what to look out for. Took the pedal to my local mechanics and they welded it up for me :) He wouldnt even let me give him any money for it :D

I cant actually get the pedal back on right now though so am gonna be making another thread shortly for help :confused:

Will just show the pics now :

Pedal with snapped metal :

http://images20.fotki.com/v385/photos/3/372428/4666569/P1010044-vi.jpg

Pedal now welded.. That aint gonna break for a while ;) :

http://images21.fotki.com/v578/photos/3/372428/4666569/P1010047-vi.jpg

http://images22.fotki.com/v520/photos/3/372428/4666569/P1010048-vi.jpg

Ninja

28-02-2007, 16:21

oh if anyone wants to help please feel free ;)

http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1280760

Simon L

07-03-2007, 22:44

My clutch pedal went on Tuesday morning. Got the car back tonight £75 out of pocket.

Had a VW Touran TDI 6spd 7 seater whilst it was in getting fixed, i abused it horrendously. It was slow and noisy, but now even noiser :)

pdcupra

07-03-2007, 22:49

can the pedal box be welded up where it is without having to take it out? thinking about doing mine before it breaks.......

Ninja

07-03-2007, 22:58

i wouldnt like to see someone welding it where it is.. Lots to catch fire!!

Isnt actually that hard to get the pedal off following this guide :)

Hardest part is getting it back on though.. Im still driving about without the big spring in place :(

Simon L

08-03-2007, 12:15

Before the pedal went i dont think i had a spring!

As now its all been re-fitted with the spring, the pedal has much more resistance and pushes back much more. Takes a bit of getting used to.

Ninja

12-03-2007, 19:14

ha ha i still dont have the spring attached :confused:

Am aiming to sort that tomorrow lunchtime though!

karl.w

17-04-2007, 07:35

mine just broke this morning on the way home from work[:@] :censored:

karl.w

18-04-2007, 16:04

need some help guys!

for those who refitted the clutch pedal how did you get the spring in place?
I was trying for an hour and a half this morning with no joy

Big_A_Cupra20vt

19-04-2007, 07:08

its a bit of a pain as its dificult to get your hamds up there, just need patience and a bit of force, itl go in the end, it might help if you take the drivers seat out to give a lot more room to work, if you havnt done that already.

Havok316

28-04-2007, 19:13

LOL Mine just broke, just got home from being towed lol, the AA attempted to fix it several times but said it needs a new pedal due to the metal bit snapped off! How much is a new pedal?

Havok316

29-04-2007, 14:49

Ive got a useful tip for people who have had this happen and they want to drive it a little distance.

Simply turn off the engine, wack the shifter into 1st gear, put your foot down on the accelerator and turn on the ignition. BE CAREFUL the car will judder forwards and if you keep your foot on the accelerator the car will drive normally in 1st gear and does work! until you need to stop at traffic lights lol the AA guy told me this and its useful

dobs5

09-05-2007, 20:22

It is possible to drive for quite a while without the clutch, just a case of matching engine speed to gearbox speed when changing gear (should slip out of gear easy).

My mate at uni drove a 50mile journey in a Ford Escort without touching the clutch once - best out of town obviously.

tomprice

07-06-2007, 15:46

mine went a week after i bought it, i read this guide and it makes it really simple, i had mine welded by a mate, the only peoblem is, the bush inside the pedal that sits between the pedal and the axle melted when welding (my fault, didnt check it properly) and Seat have ordered me the wrong part in three times, has anyone got any pictures of the pedal so i can show them what i mean? Cheers. Cheers. Great guide.

tomprice

13-06-2007, 15:48

Fixed my clutch pedal last week, in the end i got a mate to weld it up for me, much better than the job on the standard pedal, i read earlier in the thread:D:D that people are having problems getting the spring back in? the way i did it was to compress the spring as much as possible and put zip ties around the coils to keep it compressed, then get the spring into place and snip the ties and as long as you have got both ends lined up properly it will fall back into place. hope this helps. :)

Black TDI Turbo

25-06-2007, 21:23

My clutch pedal snapped on saturday when i was comming up to a roundabout, quite dangerous actually, drove my car to work bout 10miles away from ym house, just used the revs to let the gearbox syncronise when changing gear. I was going to take off my clutch pedal but just used heat mats to cover up around the area then removed the origional flap of metal and used a 0.5cm thick piece and welded that on, didnt melt too much of the plastic clip and everything seems ok, really strong now,

simontrueman

07-07-2007, 20:58

thanks a lot for this info!! car in france cant speak the language yet, so managed to remove the clutch pedal tonight!! just need a welder now, whats spot weld in french anyone...these cupras are the business on the hairpin bends in the alps

GottaIbizaMk3

07-07-2007, 21:36

soudage par points petetre????

simontrueman

08-07-2007, 10:19

thanks for that, find a garage on monday!!

Ricardo_Smooth

20-07-2007, 09:22

i'm another one of the victims of this crap design fault and is in the capeable hands of my brother being sorted today. really peed off about this fault. althoughj it is only a 10 minute removal and refit job.

Cupra R 231

25-07-2007, 11:03

Was just thinking how lucky I was that my pedal hasn't broke yet...
I go away for a month with work, first day back just parking in car park and bang. Clutch pedal dissapears.. Crap Bet I know what that is....
Sure enough its snapped. Just taken it out so can get welded at work this afternoon and realised everyone moans about it so much. Its got 2 of the tiniest spot welds in history holding it together, really very cheap and nasty...
O well at least it'll be a cheap fix.
80p ish for a plastic clip and a free bit of welding at work.
Just glad mine broke in a nice place and not miles away from anywhere....
Anyway just thought I'd add my name to the many that have had this fault...

spencer182

25-08-2007, 14:27

OK.. now i dont think my pedal has snapped... however when i was driving home, put my foot on the cluth.. hurd a clunk and it was stuck to the floor...

i can now lift my pedal up or push it all the way down however it makes no difference to the actually clutch, if it was a cable clutch i would say it feels like it had snapped but there hydraulic right?

At the top of the pedal there is a fork shaped edge.. is something supposed to hook in there? if so i cant find it.. also the white clip has fallen out :cry:

any thoughts?

Spencer

spencer182

25-08-2007, 14:47

Further investigations... it's snapped. God dam Seat.. any1 in the norfolk/norwich area that could help or know where i can take it?

I'm not very mechanical.. could prob get it out but no clue how to get it back together

Cupra R 231

27-08-2007, 18:49

Yeah took mine out and got it welded up back at work.. god dam fiddly job putting the bugger back together. Only just moved house so didn't have all my tools. If I did then the drivers seat would of been out which should of made it alot easier. Annoying when you've got the tools you need but they not to hand.
There isn't that many bits to it so getting it back together shouldn't be that difficult, its just made difficult by by having chuff all room to get your hands whilst breaking your back in the footwell...
If you've got patience and double jointed everything then you'll be alright.

Myki da Pyki

29-08-2007, 18:23

Welded mine up even thought it hadnt broke yet. Had trouble getting the spring back on so ended up lining it up on the clutch pedal then put a shoe lase over the it to pull the back of it into position on the body

spencer182

30-08-2007, 11:08

put mine back in.. and now the spring makes a click noise everytime i use the clutch..

__B3NNY__

03-10-2007, 20:26

Great guide matt, was very helpful.. but by god was that spring hard to get back in the orginal positon, I had it slighly lower than it should have been to start off with i mangaed to get it back in position by a 2nd person pressed the clutch in so it de-compressed the spring and then manged to lever it into place with a screw driver.

Its proberly clicking because its not in the correct position as mine was doing the same.

Cheers David. :D

swampy

17-10-2007, 03:19

i stuggled for hours trying to get the spring back in. in the end i put 2 cable ties through the spring and zipped them up to compress the spring. then put the spring in place and press the pedal down onto it. then snip the ties which releses the spring.let the pedal come upand it will stay as it should be.then: pull the snipped cable ties out of the spring. job done!! took me about 2 days of swearing at it to work this out! hope it helps

debz

30-11-2007, 20:17

The wife picked me up from work tonight and i found my biteing point had changed alot and there was a large amount of play in the pedal. Made it home and guess what..........the second i pulled on to my drive it snapped.

Its the common crap welds that have given way.

I read on here that steering column has too be removed........this is rubbish. I have removed mine with a phillips and flat screw driver.

Here's how.

Remove the plastic panel in underneath by removing 3 phillips screws. Remove that compartment under steering wheel.

Now remove the clutch pedal switch by screwing it out

Remove the safety clip on the end of the pedal axle with the flat screw driver and remove the clip on the other end of axle (next too brake pedal.

Slide the axle along too the drivers side until the clutch pedal can be wiggled out of place.

Becareful not too get hit in th face by the over centre spring.

Here is what ELSA says with diagrams.

Weld it up and refit simple.

Right iam off too weld mine up now.

Hope this is of some help to someone.

Matt

can you please help me,had my ibiza cupra r,in to to get lowered today,on my way home,changing from 2nd to3rd, my clutch fell to the floor,and would not return,got my dad to have a look at it,he said that he couldnt see any evidence of brocken weld's,but when he was lifting the clutch lever back up to where it should be,there were brocken pieces of white plastic,clip or something,i have read about brocken weld's but not about brocken clips,is there something seriously wrong or is this just a ware and tare thing,and is it easy to fix, many thanks
debby.

spencer182

01-12-2007, 00:37

yep, thats exactly it. hard to see the broken weld til you get the pedal off. and the white clip goes in the box where the weld will of snapped. get the pedal off and you will see exactly whats happened.

1981whips

06-12-2007, 12:24

wish id read this earlyer as mine went doin 80 round a corner shit me self as dint know what had happend got it changed at garage but after reading how to do it wish i dint bother as it cost me £80 for sumit i could have done

JMS

07-12-2007, 23:00

This happened to me last week, as soon as it broke i knew exactly what it was. I followed the instructions on this thread, it was easy getting it off and only cost me £2 to get it welded up at a local garage. But was a pain in the a*se to refit.

I would recommend anyone who hasn't had this problem to get it welded up as you never know when it'll go. Luckily for me i wasn't driving fast and i was near my house when it broke.

thewiizard

20-12-2007, 19:51

Spoke to SEAT today who basically said its not a fault with the weld at all its apparently to do with either the clutch bearing wearing out or the clutch cable seizing.

Yeah....OK SEAT, how long did it take you to think of that? heheh

sixsr

21-12-2007, 16:54

Mine has just snapped. Its looking like it'll be into the New Year before I can get someone to fix it. Called Seat, they said it'd need a whole new pedal box and it'd cost £580 + VAT.

1981whips

23-12-2007, 10:43

dont listen to them i was stupid anoth to put it in my local garage and it cost me £80 but there is a good guide on here some where looks a piece of piss

sixsr

23-12-2007, 11:59

1981whips

23-12-2007, 14:34

I've got it booked into a local garage, they're able to do it next week but the guy used to be the foreman at the local VW dealer so knows what he's doing........hopefully. Its going to be a charge for 4 hours labour. If I had more time I'd of stripped it down myself.

shouldnt take anywhere near 4 hours as it cost me £80 at a garage wich doesnt do seats and that included a new pedal and labour and i thought they had stitch me up at £80 nether mind £580 or 4 hours work

Alex Cupra

28-12-2007, 08:32

Mine has just gone aswell has anyone got the part numbers for a new pedal and clip.

JMS

29-12-2007, 09:06

Just get the pedal rewelded you shouldn't need to buy a complete new pedal unless it's completely shagged.

Black20VT

06-01-2008, 13:05

Mine went 80 miles from home last night [:@]

Any tips of how to get the clip off to get the pedal out? We've had 2 people trying, but still can't get the bu66er off! :wtf:

Also, is there a link to the ELSA images or anything?

Black20VT

06-01-2008, 14:09

Don't panic, sussed it. The end of the clip needs 'tweaking'.

Getting it welded tomorrow and back on the wagon tomorrow all being well!

Great thread, saved me a few quid! :clap:

wagcupra1

20-01-2008, 14:11

anyone had a problem when its refited with it hitting the plastic steering colum protector?
should there be a pedal stop of some sort? any help much appreciated

fcuknafe

08-02-2008, 21:12

mines goin into a local garage tmz where a mate works and theyr doin it for £45-£50 sooo its jst the labour really cant wait to get it fixed lol

Robbie C

11-03-2008, 20:47

Can someone please re-post any pics they have of the pedal as the original links have gone down. I need to show a mate so he can take mine out and do it next weekend

TIA, Rob

Robbie C

16-03-2008, 19:17

Took mine off and got a mate to weld it for me today before it actually broke to save the hassle of being stuck with no clutch somewhere. Bit of a bitch to get the spring back in but we found it easiest to keep it compressed using cable ties and then cut them once back in as suggested by other people in this thread.

To be fair the welding on my pedal didn't look all too bad so I don't think mine was a high risk but at least now I have total peace of mind. Pics below:

Before:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/robcl/ABCD0004.jpg

After:
http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/robcl/ABCD0003.jpg

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/robcl/ABCD024002.jpg

Getting the spring back in:

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b164/robcl/DSC00095.jpg

cupra_matt

17-03-2008, 17:31

I have put the pics back.

Big_A_Cupra20vt

18-03-2008, 07:40

hey robbie c is that a stack of **** in the corner of pic 1? :-)
i remember that spring what a pain in the arse it was to get it back in wish i had cable tied it would have been soooo much easier.

Big_A_Cupra20vt

18-03-2008, 07:40

**** = p o r n

Robbie C

18-03-2008, 09:23

lol, I think it's car mags mate but not too sure as this was done round a mate's house, not mine. Wouldn't surprise me tbh

DPJ

18-03-2008, 09:26

Not a chat thread - respect the sticky, please.

r1ch83

19-03-2008, 21:23

Is this is problem with just cupras or is it on all ibizas? I have a 1.4s and was wondering if I needed to get it sorted??

dannyp01

23-05-2008, 20:44

Mine went this morning, luckily right outside my house. Thanks for the advice lads will sort it in the morning.

loveturbopower

27-05-2008, 13:28

that guide is great, just took me only 15 mins to get pedal off, getting it welded tomoro

chhers guys

flooky

27-05-2008, 20:25

i had my clutch pedal snap lastnight so got it welded like most and bought a new clip.. where the bar goes into the clip... i wasnt sure how to do this so i placed the clip into the housing on the pedal arm first and fitted the clutch pedal then pressed on it..

would this be correct or should i have fitted the bar into the clip any other way?

I dont have any faults after fitting however I wasnt sure how far to screw in the sensor so is this important that it may not be set correct?

ToledoRaj

08-07-2008, 22:23

I did mine a few weeks ago by following this excellent guide and just got round to putting the big spring back on using cable ties.

My problem now is that the bar doesnt seem to fit into the plastic clip bit so there is a danger of the bar slipping out and me loosing clutch again. I've tried to adjust the sensor that screws into the pedal so that it acts as a stop but the threads have all gone so it's not holding very well and i now have a rediculously long pedal travel. Is this normal?

Shoul the bar be stuck into the plastic bit once it's al back together and is the plastic pluger switch supposed to act as a stop for the pedal comming up too high??

Any help greatly appreciated!!!

dd-cupra

11-09-2008, 00:41

I had the same problem and followed the guide which was excellent and saved me having to pay somebody. mate had a clip, other mate has a welder so it worked out i didnt spend a penny. Was a nightmare of a job though what with losing my temper trying to fiddle about the peddles and now havin a bust back and neck but its all working 100% now.

Not mentioned in this thread i dont think but when fitting the clip , put the clip onto the wee rod and ball end and then put it into the pedal, as it wont go in afterwards all that easily.

Another thing i done that messed up was when weldin a bit of weld went through the gap and prevented the clip going in but was able to chisel it out.

Mechanic i know keeps clips and pedals in his tool box as he says it only a matter of time before he will have another one needin fixed.

When i phoned the local Seat dealer and got the Seat parts desk the guy that answered the phone said he cudnt find the clip i was talking about and that he didnt know much about Seats.. Err why the feck you on the Seat parts desk, his solution was to tell me to ring another branch as they "might" know

cupraR stuart

12-09-2008, 16:01

Quality, i tried removing it last night and gave up. glad i logged back onto this today coz this has just made my weekend. Legend guys, cheers for the help. still thinking of going back to the beemers tho. iv had nothing but problems with the ibiza. not engine wise but just general mechanicals... Anyone wanna buy my 51 plate cupra R with 51k on the clock?... im thinkin M3 or M5 next..

cupraR stuart

12-09-2008, 16:16

has anyone got a picture of "the white clip" as i think the garage that tried to fix my problem may have lost it.... cheers

ToledoRaj

13-09-2008, 14:41

any tips on how to get the white clip into the push rod, i cant get mine to stay. I put the clip over the rod but cant get it ti stay!!! when i push the pedal down onto it the rod just moves back so the pedal isnt putting enough pressure on it!!! Pls help its driving me mad!!!

cupraR stuart

17-09-2008, 14:03

finally after searching the internet for a "white clip", the guy from the Seat garage, Arnold Clark in Edinburgh informed me they had it and that it would only cost 70p. So instead of trying to get to him for it, he's sending in over first thing in the morning to a local garage, 5min walk from my house. RESULT!! and here was me thinking of ordering it from a breakers down south and they insisted i bought the whole pedal and it was gona cost me 35quid. Cheers lads!

turbo009

28-10-2008, 19:20

I'm getting worried now mine not snapped yet but got a funny feeling it might do soon or later.

dubz_wm

29-10-2008, 14:30

Im gonna be getting mine welded this weekend,(mine hasnt broke yet) the guy said that he isnt gonna charge me but i think he maybe underestimating the job, can you get to the welds easy enough with dismattling anything?? will b a 2 min job?

NumberoftheBeast

05-11-2008, 14:16

HELP!

Though the guide on here has been great, my friend (I'm crap with cars) is struggling with this.

Basically, everything has gone back in (locating that spring was a b*tch) but the pedal, once depressed, isn't coming back up fully.

Any ideas?

adp

10-11-2008, 16:45

My clutch feels like its got a fair bit of play in it when its fully in. Possible its going to give up the ghost some time soon?!

Ro55

09-12-2008, 18:16

Hi all-think this has just happened to me tonight, couldnt have happened at a worse time or place. I think the problems are as described by all of you- the clutch pedal's stuck down to the floor, but can be prised back up. But when depressed again there is no spring action to suppress it back into place? Does this sound like the snapped welds described? Any help would be greatly appreciated asap!Ross

dubz_wm

10-12-2008, 09:05

yea sounds bout right, best to get it checked tho.

jonesyba_420

03-03-2009, 19:32

My clutch pedal snapped last weekend, ive since took it off rewelded it and refitted it, that spring is a nightmare lol!
The problem now is that the EPC warning light has come on. According to the handbook (page 2.24) this indicates "accelerator pedal faults"! Ive looked all around the pedals checked all the cables and connectors etc but can see nothing wrong:( Ive tried dissconnecting the batttery to clear the fault but this didnt work (light went off and came back on about 5min later)! Any ideas what the problem could be as all the book says is take it to seat?

any help would be much appreciated.

oh yea forgot to mention car seems to drive fine,accelerates like normal etc.

thanks.

cupraR stuart

04-03-2009, 14:23

my problem is now, i fitted the white clip to the rod and inserted it into the pedal. forgot about the spring. any help as to getting the spring into place as im at my wits end and ready for throwing it away. the car drives fine but the pedal hangs slightly hence needing the spring. cheers

jonesyba_420

04-03-2009, 18:33

cuprar stuart - to re-fit the spring i clamped it down fully in a vice and then cable tied each side (use good ones or they may suddenly snap!!!) im not saying that this makes it an easy job but it helps quite alot. try pushing the clutch down about halfway, locate the spring and then cut the cable ties. you can also sort of reach the spring from the top, if you put your arm through under the steering wheel (where the fuses are).
you've just gotta keep at it, took me about 5minutes to get the pedal back on and about 45 to do the spring lol.
hope this helps.

Anyone else had the EPC light come on after re-fitting their clutch pedal??or is it just me:(

kieran cupra

11-03-2009, 21:52

just welded my pedal box up after breaking on the weekedn, put it all back together with spring and the clutch is now working but the spring is clicking each time you take your foot off the clutch pedal. I have removed the spring to establish if it is the spring making the noise which it was. I now dont have a spring in place but the clutch is working fine and there are no nasty noises, so do i need a spring in place or not, and if so is there a modified part (any part numbers) many thanks

Sandy1985

16-03-2009, 16:55

does anyone have a pic if the spring in place? i cant work out how or where is goes! even a sketch or something.

thanks

jonesyba_420

16-03-2009, 18:37

Think the spring clicks when its not quite in the right place,should be located in the little "dimple" at the bulkhead end not pushing up against the side. dont believe there's an aftermarket part or anything,havnt heard one mentioned anyway.just perservere untill its in the right place.

Anyone else had the EPC light come on after re-fitting their clutch pedal??or is it just me :(

kieran cupra

17-03-2009, 20:35

just reloacted the spring with the help of the cable ties and got ito to st in that little grove and nowtheres no clicks,thanks for your help

jonesyba_420

18-03-2009, 17:45

No worries, just glad i could be of some assistance.

my epc light randomly went off last night:):)happy days!!only time will tell if it stays off tho.

ski_tzo

18-03-2009, 18:52

Dealers just informed me that pedal box is cracked. im guessing this is a sign of the clutch pedal going or is this something different?

They said new pedal box and 3 hours labour but if its just a case of getting it welded id def prefer that!

jonesyba_420

18-03-2009, 18:59

how do you post pictures? as i have a picture of the bit that snapped on mine.

Sandy1985

19-03-2009, 15:16

cani confirm something please, am i right in thinking that the spring sits between a grove and a pokey out bit on the pedal? and there is nothing lese holding it in place.. im at my wits end with this, took it to a mechanic who thinks there is a part missing from it, i said i dont think there is, i think its just wedged between the 2 points?? a pic of the spring in situe and on its own would be a massive help. or does anyone have access to the diagrams the stealers have that show how everything goes together

cheers

jonesyba_420

19-03-2009, 19:24

ski tzo- here is a picture of the bit that snapped on my pedal.
http://i563.photobucket.com/albums/ss78/jonesyba_420/Image002mod.jpg

ski_tzo

21-03-2009, 10:17

Thanks jonesba so the pedal box problem seat are talking about is the crappy welds on the clutch?

jonesyba_420

23-03-2009, 08:26

im not sure if its the same problem or not as i didnt got to SEAT to get it welded i just done it myself.the little sqare thing thats circled in the picture is on the side of the pedal arm and should have a little white clip in it,this holds the piston for the master cylinder, the problem is the welds snap and then the little white clip flies out the top which leaves you with no clutch as the master cylinder has nothing to push against. you should be able to see if you look "under" the dash,the fuse tray and other plastic cover under the steering wheel might have to be removed to get a good look at it tho.

MR T

09-04-2009, 20:25

advice needed i have taken out the old pedal and replaced it with a new one it is sitting on the tube which runs along to the brake pedal and is ready to have the safety clips replaced at each end. i have 2 issues

1 the spring has not been put back because it is evil but more importantly.

2 the white clip is situated in the housing on the pedal and i am pushing it against the rod but the two bits will not connect.

do i have to take it all apart again and join the clip to the rod then jiggle the pedal around it to make it fit or will it not join until the spring is back in place.

jonesyba_420

10-04-2009, 17:08

ha ha the dreaded spring lol, thats the hardest bit! i put the white clip on the "rod" before putting it in the housing on the pedal, was a b***h to get on but i manged it by hand no tools required other than brute strength, i dont remember it being hard to then locate the clip in its hole.

Adam180

28-04-2009, 18:13

hey fantastic guide, mine went at 4 o'clock 2day, and had MOT booked for 6, came on here, downloaded this guide and another for the master cylinder, over a cup of tea and 4 digestive biscuits i read the guides and got started, within half an hour i had the cluth master cylinder off, the pedal off, i then popped over to my looker stealer and got a new master cylinder and clip for the pedal, sadly missed MOT but shall have the pedal welded and all popped back togeather by tomorrow, was not the nightmare i thought it was and i would just like to thank all the guys on here for the guides and advice, sadly seat build quality leaves much to be desired but Seat drivers Camaraderie is 2nd to none.http://i364.photobucket.com/albums/oo89/adam180/Photo0038.jpg

nfuke

18-06-2009, 21:41

Guys mine went yesterday again luckily enough i was going slow...
Does anyone have any update or contacted seat?
Does anyone have any diagrams of what part snaps, before and after pics?

Thanks

Big_A_Cupra20vt

18-06-2009, 21:55

Guys mine went yesterday again luckily enough i was going slow...
Does anyone have any update or contacted seat?
Does anyone have any diagrams of what part snaps, before and after pics?

Thanks

small white plastic clip you will know it when you see it, basicly the clip is housed in a small metal case that has 2 spot weldes holding the back on its the weldes that break and the clip shatters. mine when 2 years ago 70pence for new clip and about 1 hour taking seat out getting pedals off and welding the black houseing box back togetther (properly) and job done :D noy had any problems since.

well apart from the rest of the car falling apart lol welcome to the cupra experience.

nfuke

23-06-2009, 22:18

Guide i brilliant saved me money and welded at garage for free.
So all back together in a few hours... I cant remember where the spring goes!?!
I take it the white plastic end of the spring sits on top of the pedal but where the hell does the other end rest?
Its compressed with cable ties and it looks like it should go straight up the the bottom of the dash but there is a circular whole??? Was there something there where the spring rested?

Guys help please im fed up of walking everywhere.... a pic/photo?

bozwellox

02-07-2009, 09:08

This happened to me last night, luckily I found a wifi connection and checked this guide whilst waiting for the AA! AA chap managed to bodge it by cutting down a bit of plastic to act as a stop, so was able to limp home but now need to order the plastic clip and arrange for my pedal to be welded.

Just spoke to the parts department of my local Seat dealer and apparently the part number for the "little white plastic clip" is 1H0721357 at a cost of 65p + VAT!. Hope that helps some people out!

EDIT - also noticed that a black plastic clip had broken, which is part number 1J2721332A - £1.86 + VAT.

EDIT AGAIN: Oooops, just noticed this is in the Mk3 Ibiza forum, so the above part numbers are probably wrong - they were for the Mk1 Leon. Soz!

Imperial_dan

18-07-2009, 23:21

I also had problems with mine. The clutch pedal just wobbles all around and 'falls' down every few minutes. So I have to put the tip of my foot under the pedal and lift it back up while driving. I 'm buying a new car tomorrow and the dealer is keeping my old Ibiza, so he'll have to fix it.

im having the same problem, have had the bits welded, put it all back together how it should be but now the pedals not springing back up, you have to help it back up. can anyone advise where im going wrong? It seems as if the springs not doing its job properly?

20vtwy

19-07-2009, 15:49

The weld on my clutch pedal broke last weekend setting off at the lights. Filled the car with fireproof sheets and got my dad to weld it without taking the pedal off, took ten minutes and cost nowt. All is good now had no problems since, just wondereing whats gonna go next!!!

kylesmithh

26-09-2009, 13:50

oo the joys of attempting this with my dad, lucky u,i remembered i had seen this wee guide wot a time saver it is was a great help. cheers

suomy

09-11-2009, 17:49

i ve recently bought a mk3 cupra and the clutch pedal is different to the brake and throttle so im guessing its had this problem the throttle and brake pedals have the sporty pedals but the clutch pedal is a crappy metal bogg standard 1, i went to the main dealers and asked if they had a proper cupra 1 and they looked at me blank and just said its the same pedal for all the ibizas and said there was no sporty alternative.

how do i get the right pedal for it?

p.s, does this post make sense?

Poundie

14-12-2009, 17:51

Ive just put my pedal back on after welding it up but...

Has anyone had problems getting the spring back on? Mine is being a ******* to stretch and get back on!

JordanMk3

29-04-2010, 09:42

I'm suscribing to this thread.. Just incase I lose it, and need it later on today :)
Seems quite simple.. Thanks

cupra_ad

16-06-2010, 18:18

My pedal snapped the other day so my garage has welded it back up but the mechanic snapped the White clip when putting it back on.
Now they're saying they can't buy just the clip and it's going to cost 28 quid for the whole pedal!! Now the pedal is fine and welded up ready to go back on the car.

Can anyone confirm I can buy just the clip for a matter of 80p from seat?? If so anyone have the part number? Or a name for the part other than "White clutch pedal clip"?

Thanks in advance guys!!

Cupra_Wob

20-06-2010, 17:22

Mine just went, was waiting for it tbh oh well mobile mechanic/welder coming out tommorow

BenS1

21-06-2010, 14:58

Mine just gone. Luckily only 200m from home, so managed to start the car in 1st and get home.

BenS1

10-07-2010, 16:13

DannyB2K

30-08-2010, 10:07

Great guide "Cupra Matt", followed this to the letter and worked fine (with a lot of swearing/cursing and sore thumb/finger tips) apart from 1 aspect. That poxy spring! Me and my dad have tried getting this in including depressing the spring like some of you have said on here with cable ties etc but to no avail. Even tried hooking the spring to a welding rod (My dads a welder so this helped a lot lol) so it can be pushed and manuoved into place but I still cant see how it gonna go. I swear you've got to be a small child or a good contortionist to do this easily. Any ideas guys? Or is some wise alek gonna tell me that i should have put the spring in position before i fitted the pedal to the white clip and axle ect?

Btw to any1 reading this is the future it isn't a quick 15/20min job. I'm no mechanic or fitter, but i do tinker around with motors and this took only took me best part of 40mins or so to get the pedal off ( 25mins or so getting the saftey clip off the brake pedal end) nd now ive been on this for about 3hrs (only 30mins or so actually refitting the clutch pedal) the rest spent on getting the spring in, which I still aven’t done.

Dan

elcristoff

16-11-2010, 23:34

Mine went Yesterday, had it rewelded and went to fit it. It took me the best part of 5 hours to fit that retarded spring. Didn't think to compress it with ties, and it's clicking a bit meaning that its not fitted right.

Also having the EPC light problem, so i'll vagcom it tomorrow or something.

Don't you just hate Seat, sometimes?

DannyB2K

17-11-2010, 06:53

I know what i git ey? Btw the EPC light is where the clutch sensor has been moved or not reconnected. Just check that plunger that is sittin on top of the clutch pedal.

elcristoff

17-11-2010, 07:29

Ah, brilliant mate, thanks, ill have a look at that later :)

ickleredders

28-11-2010, 11:50

my clutch pedal on a morning sinks lower than my brake pedal which if i leave it like this is impossible to get it in gear! if i just pull the pedal up in line with the brake pedal its much better and stays there until the next morning, does this mean mine could snap anytime soon??? ive just had the clutch replaced as some donkey put the wrong clutch in my car before i bought it! thanks

JordanMk3

05-01-2011, 16:23

Mines just gone.. A good 9 months after I thought I needed it (As stated a tad higher up the page).. Going in to the mechanics tomorrow. He thinks its a cable problem, but I will print this guide off and show it to him.. Wish me luck!!

Pownabown

28-01-2011, 15:28

Mine snapped just before christmas
welded it back up but now it clicks when you push it all the way down
and again when it comes to the top :(

Can anyone advise me how to fix this? or do i really need a new pedal?

jtizzle24

11-02-2011, 18:12

mine went yesterday :( but think my clip has broke aswell can you buy the clip from seat?!

Big_A_Cupra20vt

12-02-2011, 00:00

the white plastic clip? i thin they kinda explode when it goes, i got mine from vw garage cost less than a quid i think.

jtizzle24

17-02-2011, 20:08

fixed mine today absoulte bitch to do,, just remember to put the clip on the road before putting it into the pedal,, or you wil have to take pedal back off like i did :/ did it all in about 4hours very stressful though

pdjs01

20-03-2011, 21:55

is it possible to use a mk4 golf pedal on a mk1 leon????????????
not got a welder but i know someone breaking a mk4 golf.

if i just take to whole pedal assembly out and do a straight swap will this mean i wont have to mess about with this pesky spring i see so many people have been having problems with?

pdjs01

23-03-2011, 21:50

smiffymk3

26-04-2011, 14:08

happened to me today, luckily just as i was pulling up outside my house! unfortunately meant i had to take the day off work but hey, worse things happen at sea

many thanks to cupra matt, made doing this 10x easier & quicker. if anyone has any questions about doing this repair feel free to ask

smiffymk3

26-04-2011, 15:45

Thanks for the guide, but I'm struggling a bit.

I've managed to get the first clip off but I can't see the other clip you mention. Also you say "Now remove the clutch pedal switch by screwing it out.".... wheres that? I can't see a clutch pedal switch!

Anyway, the clutch pedal is now loose and I can move it to the left but then it hits some box thing... dunno what it is, but I can't see how you get the pedal off with this box in the way?

All help appreciated!

Thanks
Ben

The second clip is on the right hand side of the brake pedal as you look directly at it. Easiest way to see it is to lay on you back in the drivers footwell and look directly up the left hand side of the brake pedal (would be to your left as you are laid on your back) and you should see it;looks exactly like the one in the Elsa picture provided by cupra_matt

The clutch pedal switch is a rectangular shaped box with a connector at one end and a long-ish rod at the other that physically touches a flat plate on the clutch pedal. Bear in mind when you disconnect it, you may log a fault causing the EPC light to come on. Simply clear the fault memories using VAG-com or equivalent fault code reader

Hope this helps

smiffymk3

26-04-2011, 15:49

guys need some help, i changed the pedal out and found the spring a piece a cake to refit with a few cable ties, having big issues with the whit clip tho.
i broke the old one when it all snapped, i took the new one out the new pedal as i couldnt get the master cylinder arm back into it while the clip was in the pedal still. so i tried putting it on the cylinder arm first to then pop into pedal once fitted but i cant compress the cylinder enough by hand to pop the clip into the pedal where it needs to be.
how the hell do i get the clip onto the cylinder arm then back into the pedal???????????

frustrated as i got it all sorted apart from this last little bit, and i cant drive the car until i figure this out

It is a bit of a faff, i used the cable tie method and it worked ok for me. What i did was wiggle the spring so it was roughly where its supposed to be, depress the clutch pedal and lined it up with where its supposed to be on the back of the pedal. I then let go of the pedal and checked to see if the other end was in its cubby hole. If it isnt, its just a case of depressing the brake pedal again and wiggling it about until it finally slots in