View Full Version : Gave In.. N249 Bypass Done...My View
Molehill_Mike
18-12-2006, 11:31
Yesterday after having a bit of a cleaning session with FlashBSD ((AKA Banned) Pics To Follow)... I decided to tackle the N249 bypass....well.. when I say tackle I mean, allow Flash to complete the procedure on my car :D :roflmao:
Have to say, DV response is much better, and car feels better, could justy be my imagination on that tho, but for definate the DV sounds the nuts and is a much crisper noise and response....
Well worth doing if you no longer have the std BOSCH...
I have wondered abotu it for ages but finally did it yesterday, wish I had done it a while ago tbh!
Mike
TallFella
18-12-2006, 11:32
and there was me thinking you'd built a road! :blink:
acidstrato
18-12-2006, 11:56
LOL @ FlashBSD aka Banned
Smoki333
18-12-2006, 11:57
Any pics?
How did you go about bypassing it cause i think theres different ways off doing it and i want the easiest way.
Bogwoppit
18-12-2006, 12:01
I am tempted by this, has it eliminated the surging that occasionally happens?
Sharky_82
18-12-2006, 12:28
Mike - why did you bypass N249? just because you wanted to or did you have problems with your car?
Please excuse my ignorance, but what exactly does bypassing the N249 actually do?
Molehill_Mike
18-12-2006, 13:33
and there was me thinking you'd built a road! :blink:
:doh:.... get ya coat! I've called you a taxi!
LOL @ FlashBSD aka Banned
Well its true lol
Any pics?
How did you go about bypassing it cause i think theres different ways off doing it and i want the easiest way.
Not of procedure just afterwards...will host later...
I am tempted by this, has it eliminated the surging that occasionally happens?
Never had any surging matey....
Mike - why did you bypass N249? just because you wanted to or did you have problems with your car?
Been told to do it for ages, just gave in... deffo feels better tho..
Please excuse my ignorance, but what exactly does bypassing the N249 actually do?
Well the N249 holds pressure I believe,... and it was designed as a safety back up for the standard Bosch plastic valve, which if you have upgraded you no longer need.... like I said this is all I believe it to be... but I am no expert...
The guys at Vagtech keep telling me to do it, as do the people I meet up with off here... so I gave in, and glad I did!
Mike
Smoki333
18-12-2006, 13:53
ok cool mate, Was it soldiered? or just tubes?
Molehill_Mike
18-12-2006, 13:56
Just silicon hosing mate, and 2 T-Pieces...
seli_babe
18-12-2006, 13:57
It's deffo worth doing..
As a passenger in the car I noticed the difference..
Mike the dump sounded well nice last night :D
ooo Can't wait for tonight :D
Mike the dump sounded well nice last night :D
Splosh!!!! :lol: ;)
Back on topic!!!
seli_babe
18-12-2006, 14:03
Splosh!!!! :lol: ;)
Back on topic!!!
PMSL!!!! :whistle:
Molehill_Mike
18-12-2006, 14:04
It's deffo worth doing..
As a passenger in the car I noticed the difference..
Mike the dump sounded well nice last night :D
ooo Can't wait for tonight :D
Yeah the dump tonight is gonna be huge!! :roflmao:
Sounded the nuts at lunchtime, went to get petrol.....
Splosh!!!! :lol: ;)
Back on topic!!!
:lol:
Smoki333
18-12-2006, 14:07
Just silicon hosing mate, and 2 T-Pieces...
Cool! Might have a go when i see pic's! :)
Sharky_82
18-12-2006, 14:10
Mike, sorry very silly question - why 2 T - Pieces, I though it was just one that goes on the pipe from manifold - which spilts - one side goes in to the DV and one that goes in to the N112 valve via check valve.
Molehill_Mike
18-12-2006, 14:19
It might of been 2 or it could of been 1 and a joiner... I'll check... lol
Mike
Sharky_82
18-12-2006, 14:30
did you get a engine light come up - some people have had theirs come up and theres not much you can do - apart from clear it but comes back.
not tempting fate as it seems its doing the job for you....
nogutsnoglory
18-12-2006, 14:39
Mine definately felt smoother but have the standard airbox with cai so my dump valve doesnt make a sound anymore :(
i dont understand this. sounds like its worth doing can someone please explain which pipes were talking about. sorry for being thick.
Sharky_82
18-12-2006, 15:09
Roderrs,
http://www.seatcupra.net/gallery/mai...g2_itemId=1532
hope that helps - do a search - SIM done a good guide - quite detailed and takes a while to get your head around the workings
still dont understand but o well i worry about it when i get round to some engine mods.
Molehill_Mike
18-12-2006, 15:34
did you get a engine light come up - some people have had theirs come up and theres not much you can do - apart from clear it but comes back.
not tempting fate as it seems its doing the job for you....
Havent had any lights? As far as car is concerned nothing has changed? Cant imagine why a light would come on unless you've done or not done something?
Mine definately felt smoother but have the standard airbox with cai so my dump valve doesnt make a sound anymore :(
I have an open cone with 2 cold air feeds, sounds the nuts lol
i dont understand this. sounds like its worth doing can someone please explain which pipes were talking about. sorry for being thick.
Will get a picture up later...
Like I said this was just my view on this mod, there are alot of threads on this I think...
Mike
Sam@xtreme
18-12-2006, 19:20
Lol.. i havent done this, i think i know what ur talkin about tho.. would like to see some pics!!!
CupraPower
18-12-2006, 21:54
Lol Mike how can your dump valve sound any louder? i remember hearing you coming down the road at Surrey meets :lol:
Get a video clip if you can matey? And some pics :)
I been wanting to do this for ages but my eletronic/soldering skills arnt that good :(
Molehill_Mike
19-12-2006, 09:00
I been wanting to do this for ages but my eletronic/soldering skills arnt that good :(
Dont need electronic or soldering skills mate, its all mechanical/hosing!
Mike
Molehill_Mike
19-12-2006, 09:01
Lol Mike how can your dump valve sound any louder? i remember hearing you coming down the road at Surrey meets :lol:
Get a video clip if you can matey? And some pics :)
You like my dumpage fella... ;)
I'll get some videos up ASAP :)
Mike
David_smith_909
19-12-2006, 09:49
mike, iv got pics for people who would like to know how to do this
want me to post them up? (a bit clearer than the ones already on SCN)
Molehill_Mike
19-12-2006, 09:52
Yes please mate if you would, I only have after shots :)
I'll post mine later but if you have some that'd be great... :)
Like I said this thread was initially to let poeple know my views on the bypass as I "ummed and arrr'd" abotu it for a while
Mike
David_smith_909
19-12-2006, 09:56
Their just the ones i used to do mine a while ago, (their off craig)
This way is leaving everything electronically connected (no soldering) but mechanically unplugged (you need a Y piece)
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j122/david_smith_909/n249%20bypass/n249_7.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j122/david_smith_909/n249%20bypass/n249_6.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j122/david_smith_909/n249%20bypass/n249_5.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j122/david_smith_909/n249%20bypass/n249_4.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j122/david_smith_909/n249%20bypass/n249_3.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j122/david_smith_909/n249%20bypass/n249_2.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j122/david_smith_909/n249%20bypass/n249_1.jpg
(not my engine)
David_smith_909
19-12-2006, 10:03
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v147/philwarren11/Cupra/N249.jpg
going to be doing this at the weekend, clearing up the top of engine (again, not my engine, cheers phil)
ChrisCurzon
19-12-2006, 10:17
iv ordered some samco hose to this but dont think am going to be able to remove the eletrical bit
Molehill_Mike
19-12-2006, 10:21
There is no electrical bit? Just hosing??
Mike
David_smith_909
19-12-2006, 10:22
iv ordered some samco hose to this but dont think am going to be able to remove the eletrical bit
you dont unplug anything electrical mate, unlless you get rid of your solonoids and use the correct resistors to "trick" the ecu
EDIT:- Too Slow :doh:
Dont need electronic or soldering skills mate, its all mechanical/hosing!
Mike
I was under the impression there was some soldering involved after reading Sim's guide. I might give this a go in a min then :)
David_smith_909
19-12-2006, 10:35
I was under the impression there was some soldering involved after reading Sim's guide. I might give this a go in a min then :)
yeah, sims guide involves doing it "properly"
removing solonoids completly and tricking the ecu with the resistors
personally wouldnt try it as im not a sparky, also heard that if you get the resistance wrong, you can do more damage than good, so you need to know what your doing regarding the electrical part of it, hence why alot of people have just left everything still plugged in electrically
I see, so where do these go?
http://i12.tinypic.com/4h7ryj4.jpg
David_smith_909
19-12-2006, 10:39
arrow on right goes to top of DV
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j122/david_smith_909/n249%20bypass/n249_4.jpg
arrow on left goes to bottom of inlet mani
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j122/david_smith_909/n249%20bypass/n249_2.jpg
Ahh i see, which port?
http://i17.tinypic.com/2mx52iw.jpg
David_smith_909
19-12-2006, 10:47
off the top of my head i cant remember now, done it a while ago, but i replaced both the hoses at the bottom of the inlet manni, 1 of them goes to the right of your manni to a little round bronze looking thing, so its the other one, lol
it will become clear when you do it mate, if you really do need to know i can check at dinner
acidstrato
19-12-2006, 10:49
bronze looking thing is the fpr lol
off the top of my head i cant remember now, done it a while ago, but i replaced both the hoses at the bottom of the inlet manni, 1 of them goes to the right of your manni to a little round bronze looking thing, so its the other one, lol
it will become clear when you do it mate, if you really do need to know i can check at dinner
No its cool, i guess its the one that dosnt go to the FPR (round bronze thing), soon find out lol cheers :)
David_smith_909
19-12-2006, 10:50
bronze looking thing is the fpr lol
yeah that one, :lol:
Smoki333
19-12-2006, 11:02
Will small cable ties hold these in place or something stronger?
David_smith_909
19-12-2006, 11:03
thats all iv used
Molehill_Mike
19-12-2006, 11:03
Small cable ties not a problem, its all VAC so it sucks them on... lol
EDIT: Too Slow :doh: (that'd be 1-1 then David ;))
Cheers for your help fella, just done it and took it for a spin, foot down all through the gears, no limp mode, no engine management light and no boost spikes (only running k03). DV is quite a bit crisper too :)
Now to go back outside and route all the hoses properly and remove all the unwanted crap. :)
I've never had ties on any of my vac hose, as said they are sucking themselves on. Never had one pop off.
Smoki333
19-12-2006, 11:06
Cool beaker any better pics mate!? or name where they go?
Smoki333
19-12-2006, 11:07
What size vac hoses?
Molehill_Mike
19-12-2006, 11:08
I've never had ties on any of my vac hose, as said they are sucking themselves on. Never had one pop off.
If you read that quickly it can be rude...well if you miss words out... maybe its just me lol
Glad you done it then mate? Does make a difference doesn't it..
Mike
Molehill_Mike
19-12-2006, 11:08
Cool beaker any better pics mate!? or name where they go?
Isn't there enough pics already lol
What size vac hoses?
3mm I/Flash used...
Mike
Smoki333
19-12-2006, 11:14
lol my bad, just worked it out :redface:
Just to get some hose now.
If you read that quickly it can be rude...well if you miss words out... maybe its just me lol
Glad you done it then mate? Does make a difference doesn't it..
Mike
Yeah well my DV has been kind of slow lately, especially when booting it a little but not to full boost then changing gear. It would seem to take an age to dump the air but now it seems to be doing alot better. :)
Also managed to use some of the n249 valves mounting screws to secure the solenoids to the rocker cover using some existing tapped holes. And before anyone says it, yes i know my engine bay is truley filthy and untidy but it'll do for now.....
http://i16.tinypic.com/2lncms2.jpg
Molehill_Mike
19-12-2006, 11:31
Cool.. You got a 007P?
Have you serviced it recently?
Forge supply the kits free....
Mike
nogutsnoglory
19-12-2006, 11:34
When you get rid of the plastic box on the top (mine was broken anyway) you can move the wires that are plugged in behind them and relocate them to the bracket above the 3rd coilpack
tidies things up a lot better, took greig at vagtech 2 mins
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/nogutsnoglory/Image080.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/nogutsnoglory/Image081.jpg
Cool.. You got a 007P?
Have you serviced it recently?
Forge supply the kits free....
Mike
No i've got the Bailey DV30 (was on the car when i bought it :rolleyes: ) Hasnt been serviced sice i've had the car TBH. Forge say they are releasing the atmos DV in the new year after Autosprt 2007 so i 'might' give that a whirl. Either that or get a 007p, makes sense as Forge are just up the road so service parts are only 10mins drive.
When you get rid of the plastic box on the top (mine was broken anyway) you can move the wires that are plugged in behind them and relocate them to the bracket above the 3rd coilpack
tidies things up a lot better, took greig at vagtech 2 mins
Done something similar, cheers dude.
http://i16.tinypic.com/2lncms2.jpg
Smoki333
19-12-2006, 13:01
Will 1metre Hose do for this job?
Not quite i dont think, i'd get 3m from Forge. Dead cheap. http://www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/content.asp?inc=product&cat=&product=FMVT3B
Sharky_82
19-12-2006, 13:30
Beaker,
In the last pic you posted, sorry have i missed something - youve got the N112 valve at the bottom of the screen the above it you have got the other valve - Am i to assume you have not bypassed anything but simply relocated it?
I've bypassed the one valve (look closely, no pipes connected to it anymore) but you have to keep the other one i presume?
If you look at Mikes pic you'll see he's still got the one valve plumbed in....
Mikes...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v480/nogutsnoglory/Image080.jpg
Mine... (no hoses in the top valve)
http://i11.tinypic.com/3yeztwj.jpg
Sharky_82
19-12-2006, 13:58
cracking birds eye view - yep i see what youve done - you just relocated it - im going to take it off completey as its not needed - yep, you need to keep the N112(the other one) - controls combi valve for secondary air pump on cold starts -
cracking birds eye view - yep i see what youve done - you just relocated it - im going to take it off completey as its not needed - yep, you need to keep the N112(the other one) - controls combi valve for secondary air pump on cold starts -
Yeah thats it, you had me worried for a minute :) To remove completely you need to put a resistor in its place yeah?
Sharky_82
19-12-2006, 14:17
ive got myself confused - i was reading a manaul on how to do it - from what i understood, the resistor was recommened to be installed - but some people decided not and it still worked - have you seen SIMS guide?
ive got myself confused - i was reading a manaul on how to do it - from what i understood, the resistor was recommened to be installed - but some people decided not and it still worked - have you seen SIMS guide?
Had a quick look through his guide, maybe it will work without the resistor, try it?
Molehill_Mike
19-12-2006, 14:25
I have done no wiring, no soldering nothing electrical. Literally a "bypass" not a mod.
The car has no idea whats happened as far as it is concerned all is normal... its just hosing :)
Will go get some pics now, anything particular?
Mike
Sharky_82
19-12-2006, 14:34
I forgot the N279 valve had a connector on it - so you need to keep this there - i thought you could completely take it out - im going to give it a bash tonight or tomorrow morning and will let you know how i get on - the only reason im doing this cos i got a positive deviation error code - i had found the problem which was a cracked pipe coming from the N112 valve - i replaced and car was flying but its happening again now - so cant figure out why im overboosting - hoping this bypass will cure it -
Molehill_Mike
19-12-2006, 17:12
Few pics of mine...
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/9131/s7000122jz4.jpg
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/7589/s7000124nw1.jpg
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/500/s7000125tm3.jpg
Just need to clean the engine bay now... :roflmao:
Mike
ChrisCurzon
19-12-2006, 17:18
hey mike where did you get that bit of pipe from your maf to the induction kit looking for soming like that on mine to move it further from the engine
Molehill_Mike
19-12-2006, 17:23
Think it came with my Hurricane Induction kit when I bought that 2nd hand...
Mike
ChrisCurzon
19-12-2006, 17:28
i right cheers, been tryign to find somet to take it away from the engine as gets abit warm, you know what size it is a migth just get some silicone pipin on there
Molehill_Mike
19-12-2006, 17:30
Can find out tomorrow matey?
ChrisCurzon
19-12-2006, 17:41
yea if you can mate be greatfull :D
cant wait for my vacume hosein to come so can get this bypass done just waiting for it in post not sure how long will take for it to come ordered it from forge on saturday :funk:
Molehill_Mike
19-12-2006, 17:50
Well worth it mate, see Here (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=106819) for vids...(and pics ;))
Mike
ChrisCurzon
19-12-2006, 17:58
sweet mate sounds nice what you had done to that.
i need a intercoler next job after new year just need to find some were to fit it :(
Molehill_Mike
19-12-2006, 18:03
Well all your mods I have, and the ones coming I have (;))... so your car will sound the same.. apart from exhuast as mine is Milltek.. dunno how different that is to yours tho... lol
Cheers :)
Sharky_82
19-12-2006, 18:05
boris - just get some samco pipe - i think its a 70mm internal bore - ive got a rubber one at moment and i got my pipe attached to it - im ordering a samco one and putting a breather filter on the pipe -
but let mike confirm the size tomorrow -
Molehill_Mike
19-12-2006, 18:10
I'm off work now so I'll do it in the morning before I go out, around half nine ish..
Mike
David_smith_909
19-12-2006, 18:25
hey mike where did you get that bit of pipe from your maf to the induction kit looking for soming like that on mine to move it further from the engine
get onto forge
you need 70mm on a 45degree angle :D
David_smith_909
19-12-2006, 18:31
Well worth it mate, see Here (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=106819) for vids...(and pics ;))
Mike
sounds good ;)
Molehill_Mike
19-12-2006, 18:48
sounds good ;)
Ta :D
I'll still check size tomorrow for those that want it lol
Mike
ChrisCurzon
19-12-2006, 19:20
cheers guys will be able to order 1 now,
my vacume hose's came today just got in now so will try doing that on thursday :)
cool mike hope it does sound like that, hoping for money for xmas then new turbo and other bit on there way :)
am gonna get some vids up of mine soon hopfully so can see what the sound diffrence will be
Sharky_82
19-12-2006, 19:22
google it mate - theres loads of places you can get one from - about £25 - Forge do them as well -
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/500/s7000125tm3.jpg
Mike where does your cold air feed go to? I couldnt get a good flow of air by going behind the grill, its all full up with radiator and fans under there? Would like to move mine up front :)
Molehill_Mike
20-12-2006, 08:40
I have two mate, one in the wheel arch where the standard air feed normally is located, then the silver one you see in that picture, its flexible stuff, got it from the Motorists Centre. FlashBSD (Banned) had the last of mine, does a good job!
It goes above the fan, just.. lol....It does make a difference, obviously it is a bit restricted, but as I have one in the wheel arch aswell, its more than you normally get... can feel the difference 40+ as the cold air is heading straight for the induction kit :)
"Every little helps" ;)
Mike
I have two mate, one in the wheel arch where the standard air feed normally is located, then the silver one you see in that picture, its flexible stuff, got it from the Motorists Centre. FlashBSD (Banned) had the last of mine, does a good job!
It goes above the fan, just.. lol....It does make a difference, obviously it is a bit restricted, but as I have one in the wheel arch aswell, its more than you normally get... can feel the difference 40+ as the cold air is heading straight for the induction kit :)
"Every little helps" ;)
Mike
Fair enough, cheers dude. Might have a bash at squeezing some hose up inder there then :)
ChrisCurzon
20-12-2006, 10:56
am gonna have to get 1 for mine to gets abit hot after awhile. gonna try changing the vacume hose's 2moz tried last nigth but couldent get old ones off and it was dark
Olly20VT
20-12-2006, 11:42
Good thread, I'm going to give this a bash over Xmas. Few things.....
Can you use all parts that are already there apart from vac pipe (which I've got loads of)? if not were did you all get the "Y" bits from?
Has any one given the car some real beans i.e got the turbo really hot? Because by putting then over the back there they are close to the turbo and you wouldn't want them melting.
David_smith_909
20-12-2006, 11:55
Good thread, I'm going to give this a bash over Xmas. Few things.....
Can you use all parts that are already there apart from vac pipe (which I've got loads of)? if not were did you all get the "Y" bits from?
Has any one given the car some real beans i.e got the turbo really hot? Because by putting then over the back there they are close to the turbo and you wouldn't want them melting.
had mine glowing bright orange on the old k03 mate, no issues regarding anything melting
i did reuse the heat sheilds over the original hoses though and kept the heatshroud where the ic goes into turbo (just because im paranoid)
Good thread, I'm going to give this a bash over Xmas. Few things.....
Can you use all parts that are already there apart from vac pipe (which I've got loads of)? if not were did you all get the "Y" bits from?
Has any one given the car some real beans i.e got the turbo really hot? Because by putting then over the back there they are close to the turbo and you wouldn't want them melting.
We can do yours tomorrow when you come down mate, only takes 5 mins. I reused a t-piece instead of a y-connector. Remember those bits usually sit on top of the rocker cover which also gets uber hot when giving it some so they should be fine.
Sharky_82
20-12-2006, 13:02
Ooo yea - ive been putting off doing it as there is no t piece but as clearly pointed out above - can re use the old one -
heres mine
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m251/davidol/Ibiza%20Cupra/inletmanifoldfitted.jpg
http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m251/davidol/Ibiza%20Cupra/inletmanifoldfitted1.jpg
be careful bolting the valves to the rear of the rocker cover, the heat from the turbo will break the small metal wings they are secured down with and they drop down onto the turbo and the plastic guts melt out, extended the loom on mine and built a resistor pack to allow me to remove the valve completely.
ChrisCurzon
20-12-2006, 13:47
that looks well tidy your eninge it all powered coated?, makes a diffrenace from the polished you normaly see.
nope hi temp paint did it all myself easy enough to remove everything
black is the new bling ;)
ChrisCurzon
20-12-2006, 13:59
migth have to do that 1 weekend take everything off my engine is a rigth mess needs a proper clean up
Sharky_82
20-12-2006, 14:06
looking at davids bay made me realise the same thing - will need to get the rubber gloves on -
nogutsnoglory
20-12-2006, 14:10
Black and red looks sweet, was going to do mine with red hosing but once i bought a couple of secondhand blue bits i decided best to stick with that colour!
chris999
20-12-2006, 18:48
Their just the ones i used to do mine a while ago, (their off craig)
This way is leaving everything electronically connected (no soldering) but mechanically unplugged (you need a Y piece)
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j122/david_smith_909/n249%20bypass/n249_7.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j122/david_smith_909/n249%20bypass/n249_6.jpg
(not my engine)
in the first picture where the top blue hosing comes round the little metal box thing then stops at that cylinder shaped black thing then another bit of blue hosing starts... when i am doing the bypass do i put that cylinder thing in between the two bits of hosing?? does that make sense?!!!:confused:
chris999
20-12-2006, 18:51
Their just the ones i used to do mine a while ago, (their off craig)
This way is leaving everything electronically connected (no soldering) but mechanically unplugged (you need a Y piece)
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j122/david_smith_909/n249%20bypass/n249_7.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j122/david_smith_909/n249%20bypass/n249_6.jpg
(not my engine)
in the first picture where the top blue hosing comes round the little metal box thing then stops at that cylinder shaped white and black thing then another bit of blue hosing starts... when i am doing the bypass do i put that cylinder thing in between the two bits of blue hosing or get rid of that?? does that make sense?!!!:confused:
Sharky_82
20-12-2006, 19:40
that white/bkac cylinder is a check valve and yes you do need it fella - make sure you put it the right as it only allows air to pass one way - the pictures are showing the old setup and where you would put the new hosing -
David_smith_909
20-12-2006, 20:35
the pics are from one already bypassed, with the blue hoses running to the side of the fitted ones to make it more clear, just make it the same as these
Sharky_82
21-12-2006, 16:02
just done mine aswell - is easy to do - but car still pissing me off!!!
Olly20VT
21-12-2006, 17:20
Done mine now thanks to beaker, all works well and it might just be me but I'm sure my DV is ever so slightly louder, dont know how.
Didn't take Any pics but will do soon.
Molehill_Mike
21-12-2006, 22:06
cool :)
ChrisCurzon
22-12-2006, 10:04
yea done mine yesterday to, can feel a diffrence with it now and the dump valve is louder but is now making a chatter sound ever time i let off, any 1 know that can be.
Yeah, your dump valve is ****ed or you got a pinched vac hose somewhere.
ChrisCurzon
22-12-2006, 10:45
bought it brand new from awesome only like 5 months go to :(.
def not a vac hose change all of them to silicone and checked them all there okay.
David_smith_909
22-12-2006, 10:46
bought it brand new from aswosome only like 5 months go to :(.
def not a vac hose change all of them to silicone and checked them all there okay.
its normally 1 or the other mate, double check you havnt piched your hoses somewhere like phil said, make sure the Y peice isnt leaking, do a leak test on your DV
ChrisCurzon
22-12-2006, 10:51
my dv used to do it before to but not very often doing it all time now, ill double get them all later ill try that leak test think had a look at it once but confised me abit lol.
ChrisCurzon
22-12-2006, 11:45
just had a look on the forge section could it be i have teh wrong colour spring in my dump valave as i have revo boosts to about 21 psi? so could by why i am getting the chatter
David_smith_909
22-12-2006, 11:50
just had a look on the forge section could it be i have teh wrong colour spring in my dump valave as i have revo boosts to about 21 psi? so could by why i am getting the chatter
do you get chatter only on full boost? or all the time regardless of where you are in boost .
after i got my new turbo i was getting slight chatter on full boost, but only over 20psi, if i changed gear under 20psi it was fine, i changed my spring and all is well
saying that, it shouldnt just appear after doing your N249, hence why my money is on a leak in your vac system that you have missed .....
ChrisCurzon
22-12-2006, 11:58
well it used to do it before on full boost seems to do it now when ever. i will check that 1 but am sore theres nowt wrong with them, apart from the 1 going onto the dump valave maybe had abit of trouble getting that 1 on as the pipe woudlent go over so had to lit it so could get a bit on maybe that then.
Molehill_Mike
22-12-2006, 17:15
What colour spring you got? Green?
Glad peeps are doing this of this thread, like I said I wondered about it for ages but its well worth it...
T Pieces are available from The Motorists Centre, probably Halfords etc too..
Mike
ChrisCurzon
22-12-2006, 17:19
not sure when i take it off to do a leak test will have a look.
yea its good mike gald you brought it up been think about doin it for abit :).
i used use teh t pieces off the old pipe work
gazjones
22-12-2006, 23:14
this sounds interesting im changing all my vac hoses tomorrow for red ones and with my engine bay being slightly different im not completely sure what to do will have to read up more on it! can you leave the black box in place and still do this?
Sharky_82
23-12-2006, 08:45
You can leave it on there but some people chose to take it off to make it look neater - but when removing this, you cant put the engine cover back on
Bogwoppit
23-12-2006, 13:39
After reading everyones comments I decided to bypass my N249 valve today. I have only bypassed it mechanically for now, just to see the difference.
To be honest I haven't noticed much difference, but the dv noise is louder than it was before, the noise is more sharp and the "dump" noise is quicker.
My car still has a Seat airbox, but smoothed, enlarged intake and green panel filter fitted.
Gazjones if you want a hand bypassing your valve let me know.
gazjones
23-12-2006, 14:55
peter yes would like a hand doing it got some pics of mine to see if its the same just changed most of my vac hoses with red ones and have enough left to do this
pics of mine just to see if its the same layout as the mk3
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f383/gazjones1/fr/DSCF0001.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f383/gazjones1/fr/DSCF0002.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f383/gazjones1/fr/DSCF0003.jpg
http://i51.photobucket.com/albums/f383/gazjones1/fr/DSCF0004.jpg
Bogwoppit
23-12-2006, 15:28
It looks pretty similar, just the inlet manifold connections look in a different place.
Can the red hose that is coming off the top of the dv (between boost gauge T and N249) reach the the other T that is connected to the check valve and front of N249? If it is long enough you shouldn't need to cut anymore vac hose.
gazjones
23-12-2006, 15:34
i think the dv hose can reach the t off the inlet manifold pipe then i just need to run a pipe from the one way valve to the other gold coloured valve at the back left of the engine bay?
Whats t-pieced into the DV connection? Boost gauge?
gazjones
24-12-2006, 14:28
yes a boost gauge tried this today and dv sound is crisper and louder swapped it back to normal and less dv noise and tiney bit less boost i think very marginal if any but will be doing it properly now and boost gage seems to work better coming direct from the manifold!
ChrisCurzon
25-12-2006, 14:09
hey guys
still getting a realyl loud chatter from my dump valve checked all the pipe not kinks and all pluged in correctly did leak test on dv dident move till i took finger off even put old standard 1 on and still did the chatter, my forge valve has a green sprink but even makes the chatter and only like 10 psi.
any 1 know what could be the propblem? every 1 said it sounds good from outside but its loud and bloody anoying hearing it chatter every time i let off on inside lol
Have you got the check valve on the right way round after you done the n249 removal?
ChrisCurzon
25-12-2006, 15:07
which valve to you mean? the white and balck 1? the white bit is ponting up so think taht rigth way
Sharky_82
25-12-2006, 15:37
yea thats the check valve - the white should be pointing up -
Olly20VT
27-12-2006, 16:25
i think he ment DV, i tryed mine on backwards once and it made chater sounds so i put it back.
Molehill_Mike
01-01-2007, 11:27
Few pics of mine...
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/9131/s7000122jz4.jpg
http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/7589/s7000124nw1.jpg
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/500/s7000125tm3.jpg
Just need to clean the engine bay now... :roflmao:
Mike
Engine bay now cleaned...!
See thread Here (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=107724)
;)
Mike
TTS Roadsport
01-01-2007, 12:20
Mike,
just a warning. I had the 2 sensors mounted on the rocker in the same way as yourself, and the n112 broke off where you have put the bend in. It resulted in a blown fuse, melted hoses and a new valve. £25 for me, but more for you guys:cry:
I have now made a strengthening bracket for the valve so this wont happen again hopefully. I also lengthened the cables for the other valve and relocated it under the scuttle. Looked odd having a valve with nothing going to it.
Pic:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/fordkaracing/Ibiza/DSC00322.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/fordkaracing/Ibiza/DSC00325.jpg
ian_cupra
01-01-2007, 12:32
did mine a bit ago, noticed a fair difference, mainly between gear changes, seem to be on boost straight away after gear change, its great!!
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o142/ian_cupra/ibizaengine001.jpg
Molehill_Mike
01-01-2007, 12:45
Mike,
just a warning. I had the 2 sensors mounted on the rocker in the same way as yourself, and the n112 broke off where you have put the bend in. It resulted in a blown fuse, melted hoses and a new valve. £25 for me, but more for you guys:cry:
I have now made a strengthening bracket for the valve so this wont happen again hopefully. I also lengthened the cables for the other valve and relocated it under the scuttle. Looked odd having a valve with nothing going to it.
Pic:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/fordkaracing/Ibiza/DSC00322.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v489/fordkaracing/Ibiza/DSC00325.jpg
Good work mate. Maybe catch up at a meet in Jan? There is one on the tenth I think...
Mike
why is the one way valve needed if you remove the N249 AND the N112. i thought it was only there to protect the N112. surely if this is removed, then you don't need the check valve aswell?
Molehill_Mike
09-01-2007, 13:43
why is the one way valve needed if you remove the N249 AND the N112. i thought it was only there to protect the N112. surely if this is removed, then you don't need the check valve aswell?
I'm not 100% but I think if you remove that one then the ECU flags up the error etc, thats when soldering and crap come into the equation. The way its been done on my car and a few others, the ECU doesn't know any different.
Also since removing this valve and resetting ECU, over the last week or 10 days etc, the car has felt better and better, now I hit/peak 21 PSI in 2nd 3rd 4th and 5th gear ;)
I love this car !!
Mike
ChrisCurzon
09-01-2007, 14:28
hey mike on your i seen you havent done the resistor bit but you have removed that metel bracked where have you put teh over valve that aint plumbed in but its still wired in?
has anyone seen a drop in boost presure sinse doing the bypass..?
I did mine a couple of weeks ago and lost 2-3 psi.
mind you i did take the shield off the dynatwist at the same time, but i don't think that'd make much difference, especially in winter.
1 or 2 people have actually, but its like 1 person sees a drop, 50 see an improvement.
These cars are unpredictable - you only know what works on your car once you've tried it on your individual car.
The shield on the dyna wouldn't cause a boost drop - the air may be hotter but the turbo boost shouldn't decrease. Infact some say warmer temps cause higher boost as the ECU requests more as the air is less "efficient". :confused:
Molehill_Mike
10-01-2007, 08:51
has anyone seen a drop in boost presure sinse doing the bypass..?
I did mine a couple of weeks ago and lost 2-3 psi.
mind you i did take the shield off the dynatwist at the same time, but i don't think that'd make much difference, especially in winter.
Thing is a dynatwist is designed to work with a heat shield, whereas an open cone filter isn't... so by removing the shield your actually removing part of the "build" of the induction kit.
I would say put the shield back on and see if you gain those 2-3 PSI back...
The shield on the dyna wouldn't cause a boost drop - the air may be hotter but the turbo boost shouldn't decrease. Infact some say warmer temps cause higher boost as the ECU requests more as the air is less "efficient". :confused:
I disagree but also agree on parts lol :confused:
I very much dounbt the shield has anything to do with it. In fact it flows a hell of a lot better without the shield. And thats coming from experience.
You've done something wrong or have a boost leak. Log 115.
I disagree but also agree on parts lol :confused:
I'm not entirely convinced on it all either - just stuff that i've heard.
But from experience, a change in air filter shouldn't lose 2-3PSI at all. I've tried loads of induction kits with CAI's on and off etc etc but boost was always the same.
Out of interests, I reconnected my N249 and n112 ETC just like the std set-uip this morning and now it only boosts to 18psi - didn't change anything else at all - it normally boosts to 20-22psi without them connected!
I'm not 100% but I think if you remove that one then the ECU flags up the error etc, thats when soldering and crap come into the equation. The way its been done on my car and a few others, the ECU doesn't know any different.
Also since removing this valve and resetting ECU, over the last week or 10 days etc, the car has felt better and better, now I hit/peak 21 PSI in 2nd 3rd 4th and 5th gear ;)
I love this car !!
Mike
Do you mean since doing the bypass your peak boost has increased? What was it previously?
that's what i didn't do...reset the ecu and realign throttle bodies. maybe that'll help me.
do you need to that?
David_smith_909
10-01-2007, 14:00
that's what i didn't do...reset the ecu and realign throttle bodies. maybe that'll help me.
do you need to that?
i didnt when i done mine, had mine done for over 4months now with no issues
Molehill_Mike
10-01-2007, 15:11
that's what i didn't do...reset the ecu and realign throttle bodies. maybe that'll help me.
do you need to that?
I did mine after bypassing. Gained 1 PSI :o)
Do you mean since doing the bypass your peak boost has increased? What was it previously?
Peaking around 20 in 3rd 4th 5th..., now peaks 21 in 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th lol
:D
Mike
slimjimvw
11-01-2007, 19:12
Done the mod on my Cupra tonight, as per the pictures in this thread.
First impressions are good , the car is smoother on and off boost (on and off throttle) as it was a little "jerky" before , the DV is working quicker and is definatly louder/crisper as i couldn't hear it inside the car before but i can now.
Also seems to hold boost a little longer to and be less "laggy" between gear changes.
Overall all positive , definatly a worth while mod considering it only takes 10mins :D
dj_bigfella
11-01-2007, 20:00
hey people. just read all 8 pages and i gotta say it looks really interesting! just one thing though..... 'TTS Roadsport' mentioned the hoses melting and fuse blowing. if i was to do mine like this (picture below) would i be risking it or is there a way to avoid this from happening? any other people experienced this?
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/1249/n2491xr7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
thanks peeps :)
David_smith_909
11-01-2007, 20:09
naaaa, youl be fine mate ;)
dj_bigfella
11-01-2007, 20:28
sorry don't mean to sound paranoid, but there's still that risk isn't it? not really that hands on with cars, just wanna make sure i know what i'm doin! ;)
cheers
slimjimvw
12-01-2007, 14:59
sorry don't mean to sound paranoid, but there's still that risk isn't it? not really that hands on with cars, just wanna make sure i know what i'm doin! ;)
cheers
If your worried mate get some insulation tube for the silicone , just cover it where its likely to get hot or come in to contact with hot metal ;)
It looks much tidier and I arranged the hosing so it stayed off the rocker cover and using all the original heat sheathing. I copied Mike's and flipped the valves upside down and bolted them to the rocker cover which gives them alot more support than if they're bolted the 'correct' way up. It looks much tidier now, still dirty though. The dump is much louder than before although I haven't noticed any performance differences as the car still isn't running properly :censored:
Excuse the butchered Dynatwist, I need to get the casing polished up, although it does sound rather nice right now! Maybe I need a nice red or stainless steel filter hehe.
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/7103/beefyengine1dm.jpg
Just got my tubing from Forge today, so I shall tackle my N249 this weekend :D
ChrisCurzon
06-03-2007, 17:27
well worth it i must admit tidys up the engine bay and sounds better once done and seems to have a better pick up.
shouldent take to long for you to do it really only bit i had a problem with was getting the new tube over the forge dump valave nipple.
i have just done this mod as well last night, the first impressions seem good. theres slightly less lag between gears and the dv is definetly sounding nicer, plus im only running standard power at the moment. im sure this will have an even greater effect when i get the car remapped.
dj_bigfella
07-03-2007, 10:28
Just got my Revo done on the weekend and i've noticed slight lag after gear changes when i'm giving it some. Could the n249 bypass help this??
cheers people
Just got my Revo done on the weekend and i've noticed slight lag after gear changes when i'm giving it some. Could the n249 bypass help this??
cheers people
definetly, ive noticed the pick up between gear changes has improved since doing this
dj_bigfella
07-03-2007, 19:43
is this pipe going to the bit underneath the inlet manifold??
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4193/n2493oj6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
thanks :)
ganda_cupra
07-03-2007, 20:08
Yes that ones goes to the inlet manifold.
dj_bigfella
07-03-2007, 20:12
sweet :) will give this a go soon!
thanks for all the help! hopefully it should reduce some of the lag!
gavthelad
07-03-2007, 20:19
yeah ive gotta get mine done......just being lazy at the mo.
ganda_cupra
07-03-2007, 20:21
This is how I tidied mine up with 3m of vac hose from Forge.
I put my 1 way valve out of sight next to rocker cover between front and back of it, it now sits under the charge pipe and N75 piping. The vac hosing from it to front Y connection runs under the breather pipe coming from front side of rocker cover.
Hope it helps.
http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/581/04after2cb7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
gavthelad
07-03-2007, 20:32
that looks good mate!!.....nice and tidy!!!
Molehill_Mike
08-03-2007, 08:22
Glad people are doing this, really makes a good difference :D
ok im just about to do this and opened up the engine bay and the 3mm hose i bought from forge looks tiny compared to the hoses that are on there....is 3mm right?
ganda_cupra
10-03-2007, 12:58
Yeh 3mm or 4mm internal diameter is fine so you should be good with 3mm id, the original stuff is rubber which is then braided with fabric.
ok thanks shall go do it now :D was just worried that after I'd started ripping pipes out I wouldnt be able to put it back on lol
also how do i remove the stupid little clamps in this pic, any easy way??
http://www.ibizacupra.co.uk/DSC00020.JPG
ganda_cupra
10-03-2007, 13:12
Use a small tipped screwdriver, push into bit that is raised (in pics looks like bit I mean has green paint blob on it) and prise open to release tension, then flick it off the peg it hooks on, if you get me.
Just be careful where it clamps onto the valves etc as not to break them.
Also when the clips are off the piping may still be tight, just use above mentioned screwdriver to break seal round end of pipe and then twist and pull pipe.
awesome cheers mate, all done, test driven, been to halfords, washed the car and ate lunch lol :D
doesnt seem to of made that much of a difference but the turbo spooling sounds a bit louder...we'll see when i go for a normal drive :) thanks :D
I've just popped out and done mine, nice easy job (for a change)!! Def makes everythin look a lot tidier under the bonnet!!! :D The dump is def a lot crisper anyway.:cartman:
gavthelad
14-03-2007, 19:54
still gotta do mine!!!!! lazy lazy lazy!!!!!
id been lazy too.. Did mine today though.. only took about 15 minutes but i did manage to cut my finger open :shrug:
Pic from before :
http://images21.fotki.com/v756/photos/3/372428/2235062/n249before-vi.jpg
and then after :
http://images24.fotki.com/v764/photos/3/372428/2235062/n249after-vi.jpg
oh and ignore the state of my engine :whistle:
Am pretty impressed to be honest... Am no longer getting silly surges in boost and all feels a lot smoother..
Now i only need to get my vibrating exhaust sorted and i might actually have a fully working car!!
;)
Molehill_Mike
01-04-2007, 11:01
Why haven't you removed the big black block Ninja lad?
left it for now in case there were any problems with it and i had to put it back to how it was..
So all that can come off now then ?
yeah, get it off. the only thing is the 2 bolts that hold on the nast lump of plastic are also holding in your coilpacks and are a bit long after removing it.
i dealt with this via a hacksaw and a thread file, but you could just get two shorter bolts.
:)
ignore my last one, never noticed you've got different coilpacks from me!:doh:
i done the bypass today, car has been a bit dodgy when on boost in the last 3 days amd by removing the valve it's sorted the problem! the dump valve sounds bits more whooshy now aswell. well worth thinking about :>
Molehill_Mike
23-04-2007, 08:41
I also did this on Sels (newly bought) std MK3 Cupra, with a Baileys DV and an open cone she gets a dump, the power also feels very smooth!
This is well worth doing once you have replaced that plastic recirc valve! lol
Mike
I've properly done this bypass now, all tidied up with resistors, makes the engine look even more tidy along with my secondary air system and evap system removal.
David_smith_909
23-04-2007, 09:57
I've properly done this bypass now, all tidied up with resistors, makes the engine look even more tidy along with my secondary air system and evap system removal.
Pics please :)
Lol, i knew that was comin dave. I'll take some tonight, but it hasnt been polished in a while so dont comment on that!
ian_cupra
23-04-2007, 10:33
Mines not clean at all, but hey. Got rid of all c**p on rocker cover now! What ya think??
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o142/ian_cupra/DSC00581.jpg
http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o142/ian_cupra/DSC00582.jpg
Steve GTI
23-04-2007, 10:36
I think the engine is a very ugly engine, much prefer the engine cover on, imo.
ian cupra, where have you mounted your N112 or resistors?
ian_cupra
23-04-2007, 11:10
there mounted just under charge pipe, near where the bracket holds it to the block for now, i'm going to lengthen the wires and hide them under scuttle panel. but i've bypassed the n112 as well, as the fell onto manifold and melted, so i've just bypassed it.
i've not put resistors in any of them yet, not fully sure if i'm going to at all. where did you get resistors from?
David_smith_909
23-04-2007, 11:13
I think the engine is a very ugly engine, much prefer the engine cover on, imo.
pmsl. what a pointless thing to say
Steve GTI
23-04-2007, 11:14
pmsl. what a pointless thing to say
Well it was related to removing the N249, as once you have removed it you can't secure the engine cover.
http://www.greenweld.co.uk/acatalog/Shop_AluminiumClad_211.html
Scroll to the bottom.
330 ohm 10 watt resistor. One is needed for each N112. Thats it.
ian_cupra
23-04-2007, 11:18
you put one in for the n249 and the n112 then phil??
One for each of the valves that most people fix to the rear of the rocker cover and fall off, like whats happened to you and me.
The same resistors can be used for the SAI as well.
ian_cupra
23-04-2007, 11:47
cool cheers mate, ordered 2 now, prob should have ordered another! *** wanna get SAI sorted too. trying to find where can get the blocker piece, found one place but not got any in stock. where you get yours?
David_smith_909
23-04-2007, 11:49
forgive me for the 'im a plank" post
i want to do this proper and put the correct resistors their before they fall off the block, but im far from a spark, is it just a case of unplugging the electrical connector (2wires) from the solonoid and connecting the wires to the resistor (1at each end) ??
again, sorry for the stupid post
Dave, as i'm guessin you dont have any vac hoses plugged into the solenoids do you?
I personally cut off the connectors and soldered on the resistor in its place, but yeah david, you got it right.
I got mine from Jonzy who got his from Integrated Engineering iirc..
But 20squared fo them...
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3188271&postid=37860406
David_smith_909
23-04-2007, 12:08
Dave, as i'm guessin you dont have any vac hoses plugged into the solenoids do you?
I personally cut off the connectors and soldered on the resistor in its place, but yeah david, you got it right.
I got mine from Jonzy who got his from Integrated Engineering iirc..
But 20squared fo them...
http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3188271&postid=37860406
Cool [B)]
no vac hoses in N249, but N112 is still plummed in
Cheers for the info :cheers:
ian_cupra
23-04-2007, 12:14
cheers for that link phil, ordered blanking plate now, so can get rid of SAI :clap:
No probs people.
I'm currently workin on a quality FAQ thread as well. :D
ian_cupra
23-04-2007, 12:30
lol, good idea, stop me asking stupid questions!! lol
Lol, at least you keep it in one thread.
Funkyfin2000
09-05-2007, 19:38
Did mine tonite!
Fapping brill!!!
What i need to know now is how do i get rid of the black box as theres one valve still got electrical connector plugged in and not sure i can just pull it all out?
Or can i seperate the black box off and remove just that all on its own?
ian_cupra
09-05-2007, 20:22
you can remove the electrical plug from the black box,
but i'd make a braket for it, otherwise you end up with what i had if you just bolt it to head, it falling onto manifold and melting!!!
Funkyfin2000
09-05-2007, 20:24
does that not create an error in vag.com??
ian_cupra
09-05-2007, 20:27
leave it electrically connected, but make sure its sercurly held down thats all, as when you remove the large black box you take the places there secured too
stevegti6
29-05-2007, 23:23
this is the best mod ever ive done and what a improvement
really? I didnt notice that big a difference lol
It would make a massive difference if your original vac hoses are shot.
seli_babe
30-05-2007, 12:46
really? I didnt notice that big a difference lol
I think it depends on what you've already done to it.
On my red one which was std apart from a Bailey's I didn't notice anything, apart from a cleaner dump.. But on Mike's which was at stg 2 (i think) when we did it, I noticed a load of difference.
stevegti6
30-05-2007, 22:05
I changed every vaccum hose on the car the were all split and perished not surprising after 106000 miles though
wicked wastegate chatter now
seli_babe
31-05-2007, 08:43
I changed every vaccum hose on the car the were all split and perished not surprising after 106000 miles though
wicked wastegate chatter now
Were you actually getting any boost before :lol:
David_smith_909
31-05-2007, 08:46
wicked wastegate chatter now
and your turbo will probably last a few 1000 miles
check all your plumming of your n249 bypass, check your dv
chatter is not "wicked" - its very very bad !
Myki da Pyki
17-07-2007, 14:34
Done mine and its actually made the dv alot quieter and theres a huge delay with the discharge now. I used the same method as this:
http://i16.tinypic.com/2lncms2.jpg
Ive got a forge spliter dv on there so was expecting it to get better but its now worse.
Any ideas lads?????????
Funkyfin2000
17-07-2007, 15:57
ive undone mine it was rubbish!
Myki da Pyki
17-07-2007, 22:23
undoing mine in the morning cos ive got no power at all now
undoing mine in the morning cos ive got no power at all now
I'll put money on something being wrong.
Bogwoppit
17-07-2007, 22:53
I'll put money on something being wrong.
Agreed.
ian_cupra
17-07-2007, 22:55
i'd say so too, cant understand how people can get it wrong,
thing is only takes one person to do it wrong and put up pics, then everyone copies it!!
Of all the photos in this thread you pick the hardest one to understand. I'm still tryin to work that photo out.
This one is probably the best i reckon...
http://img408.imageshack.us/img408/1249/n2491xr7.jpg
ian_cupra
17-07-2007, 23:06
i'd say the same too
Funkyfin2000
18-07-2007, 09:16
well i did it to, the thing was running ok bar loads of limp modes!
Myki da Pyki
18-07-2007, 17:05
redone it using a diferent pic and its working alot better although still got a delay(shorter than before) with the discharge but only in the higher gears
GUYS LOOK AT THE OTHER PICS ON HERE,LOOKS YOUR ONE WAY VALVE IS WRONG WAY,HENCE NO BOOST????? SURE SHOULD BE WHITE PART HEADING UP WARDS(POINTING TO THE BULKHEAD :doh:
GUYS LOOK AT THE OTHER PICS ON HERE,LOOKS YOUR ONE WAY VALVE IS WRONG WAY,HENCE NO BOOST????? SURE SHOULD BE WHITE PART HEADING UP WARDS(POINTING TO THE BULKHEAD :doh:
Which picture exactly are you referring to? (And why are you SHOUTING?)
Molehill_Mike
02-08-2007, 08:51
Shouting in your first post? Hhmmm.... :think:
I need to do the resistor bypass on the IHI, tidy it up alot more.... is that infor within these 12 pages??
I know its my thread, but its gone on and on and on and on.... lol
Mike
... is that infor within these 12 pages??
It's hard to tell anymore, Mike. I tried to look twice but this mist of confusion keeps descending.
:D
Molehill_Mike
02-08-2007, 10:19
If only you could moderate your own topics, therefore be able to remove those posts that are not on topic...
Ah well...
If only you could moderate your own topics, therefore be able to remove those posts that are not on topic...
Oh, yes, bring it on! :D
Molehill_Mike
02-08-2007, 10:37
Oh Morky!!
lol
Resistor is easy. 330watt 10hm, cut off the solenoids if theyre not being used any more and solder in their place the resistors. Simple.
Resistor is easy. 330watt 10hm, cut off the solenoids if theyre not being used any more and solder in their place the resistors. Simple.
Got a source for the resistors still, Phil? The previous place you posted seems not to stock them any more. :(
Dave, had a quick look and i cant find anything really.
I'm sure i have some spare resistors i'll see if i can find them.
You could always make a bank up of 110 watt ones.
Dave, had a quick look and i cant find anything really.
I'm sure i have some spare resistors i'll see if i can find them.
I have your address for paypal payments. :D
You could always make a bank up of 110 watt ones.
Sounds good...... how?:confused::scary:
craig_cupra
03-09-2007, 19:51
ive in the process off fitting a forge split r dump valve so whilst im on im gunna do the n249 bypass aswell. i was just wondering if any tee pieces or y pieces are needed? and if so where can i get one from? cheers lads
I cant remember if you need an extra t-piece or not, but.... i've found that most Halfords stock t-pieces amongst their washer bottle pump/tubing section.
craig_cupra
05-09-2007, 16:18
fitted my split r and the dump dint seem to loud then did the n249 bypass and it deffo seems to have improved the dump noise. also i seem to have gained about 2psi. also would it be worth me getting a cold side relocation kit for my dump valve? cheers
Myki da Pyki
30-09-2007, 13:21
My N112 valves broke off and started melting on the manifold. Managed to save the one i actually still use but the other was fried lol, so only have 1 connected and no engine management lights are up or anything like that which i thought would be. Welded the remaining N112 to a new bracket which wont fall off now.
Do i need to get a resistor to keep the engine management happy now?
ian_cupra
30-09-2007, 13:25
which one is melted?? you'll need a resistor yes
is it the one with the vac hose on it still??
Myki da Pyki
30-09-2007, 13:31
No its the one with no hoses connected to it
ian_cupra
30-09-2007, 13:32
just get a resisitor for it, then all will be fine
ian_cupra
30-09-2007, 13:36
or you could buy a new n249 to replace the melted one
Myki da Pyki
30-09-2007, 13:42
Resistor it is then lol. Any idea which amp one i need to get?
Few pics of mine...
http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/500/s7000125tm3.jpg
Just need to clean the engine bay now... :roflmao:
Mike
hey, what is the really long blue pipe on the left going to???i dont have this anywhere that i can see!!
Myki da Pyki
16-11-2007, 21:04
Yeh that'l be going to the boost gauge mate
thank god for that!! well mine is all done :) replaced most of the pipes, just need to do the rest.
thanks for the semi-guide!
i'll tidy my engine bay and get some pictures posted!
The MoffMeister
16-11-2007, 21:50
is this a defo guide as i now want to do it do we have a kit list?
hey moffmeister. it would be a good idea to write a guide, but you can do it from te pictures posted by Mike. i needed to extra parts, unless you want to replace all the original tubing, with new 3mm tubes.
i've done mine, from looking at the pictures, and have no warning light, so i'm happy!!
The MoffMeister
17-11-2007, 09:41
cool sounds easy then just wondered why ppl need resistors?
but yeah will re-do it in blue 3mm tube should look better
DaNnY_LaD
17-11-2007, 21:06
what size silicon hose do i need? is it 4mm or 5mm inside ?
The MoffMeister
17-11-2007, 21:26
as above 3mm