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Offspringy
11-01-2007, 23:08
Hi guys/gals!
I know this has been mentioned before but the thread seems dead, just found another image of the car, to be honest when it was the first "concept" image from the side (in the origional thread, i really liked it (the back side is another story)
And now, iv decided i cant wait for it to come out, so that it will push the 2006/7 models down in price (i hope) because iv gone right off it after seeing this image:
http://www.autokampioen.nl/published/akm/content/afbeeldingen/2006_2/toekomst/0607seatib-391159_enlarged.jpg
They have chopped a seat leon down and beat it with the ugly stick not to mention made it smaaaaaall!
Not a good look from this image :( :ban:
Cheers
gazjones
11-01-2007, 23:11
ow no one good think decent brakes in the pic look like 312mm. but prob photoshop of audi wheels or something
Offspringy
11-01-2007, 23:23
yet another image i found, not very good in size but makes the car look dead sleek, in comparison to the one above
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/offspringy/Salsa1450port.jpg
tommmineh
12-01-2007, 00:28
All photoshops so not what the car will look like. Is that not a Leon front grafted on the front in the 1st pic?
gorebrush
12-01-2007, 10:06
Looks like a mini Leon.
Funky, me like.
for me i prefer the different models of a car maker to look different. If this is what the new ibiza will look like, then it will be too similar to the leon and altea. Its like how the new corsa kinda looks like a shrunken version of the astra-they just dont look right IMO.
Designers gettin lazy if u ask me
rashcupra
12-01-2007, 11:14
:sick: if it looks anything like this its unsporty! tiny! boring! and the lines of the pannel just look granny
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b9/rover25/2141374144.jpg
think this is the designer imo! ^^^^^
Ol' Timer
12-01-2007, 11:44
yet another image i found, not very good in size but makes the car look dead sleek, in comparison to the one above
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/offspringy/Salsa1450port.jpg
That pic is the Salsa which was the concept car for the new Leon.
http://****************/en/view_manager.html?root=1227,1228,1231
Offspringy
12-01-2007, 13:06
That pic is the Salsa which was the concept car for the new Leon.
http://****************/en/view_manager.html?root=1227,1228,1231
Ahhh, right thanks for that info! even still, you can see they pretty much used the concept shrunk it, and made the ibiza, either they are getting lazy, or there running out of ideas (that work)
The 2006 facelift looks amazing, and "real" for a start aposed to something that would never make it to production, in a way i love the "going fast wile standing still" look, but i think the 2006 model looks mean and ready...
I hope its simaler to the concept but more like a fresher 2006 model...
cheers
1st image is an Altea that's had the rear doors lopped off
but It won't be far off what you get....
Look at the new Skoda Fabia, stick a racked windscreen on that, a Leon front end & an altea tailgate & you're 90% there
it might not look anything like the mk4 (but neither did the mk4 to mk3) but it will be a better car overall.
The proof in it's sales won't be what it looks like, but the range of engines it comes with.
Offspringy
12-01-2007, 14:20
1st image is an Altea that's had the rear doors lopped off
but It won't be far off what you get....
Look at the new Skoda Fabia, stick a racked windscreen on that, a Leon front end & an altea tailgate & you're 90% there
it might not look anything like the mk4 (but neither did the mk4 to mk3) but it will be a better car overall.
The proof in it's sales won't be what it looks like, but the range of engines it comes with.
True in a sence i supose! the engines do count quite a lot, but if the sell it at that lengh then im not sure its gonna hold the road that well! might be more of a mini cooper wonnabe if it gets any smaller, hell, why didnt they just make it a 2DR 2Seater? :doh:
Leonidas
29-04-2007, 17:11
http://espaciocoches.com/wp-content/uploads/blogger/_USwCKZxhqMo/RcZyXsOD4uI/AAAAAAAAAQs/hENXJE0foIA/s400/Seat_Leon_Coupe.jpg
gazjones
29-04-2007, 17:20
nice 3door leon that :lol:
RichieRich
29-04-2007, 17:51
i hope it does ring down the prices of the dealers cars to get them sold!!
Mr Cellotape
29-04-2007, 18:19
http://espaciocoches.com/wp-content/uploads/blogger/_USwCKZxhqMo/RcZyXsOD4uI/AAAAAAAAAQs/hENXJE0foIA/s400/Seat_Leon_Coupe.jpg
I'm liking that, can I have that with a 200bhp diesel, leather recaros, dual zone, and a nice dashboard? :lol:
unitzero
29-04-2007, 19:09
http://www.fourtitude.com/news/uploads/SEAT_News/altea_fr.jpg
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http://www.fourtitude.com/news/uploads/SEAT_News/altea_fr.jpg
?
that's the Altea FR 'concept'
unitzero
29-04-2007, 19:13
ah lol ... i was just doing a search and some dutch forum said that its the new ibiza!
hah, I know they say that all the new SEAT's look alike.....
Leonidas
29-04-2007, 20:34
I doubt it'l look like this.. They said it was goin to revolutionary.
That's just a 3 door Leon. It dose look nice though!
I read somewhere that it'l be more angular.....
Ibiza 130 tdi
29-04-2007, 20:44
That looks horrid imo. The lights are huge! Don't like at all, the bonnet looks all wrong somehow...
That looks horrid imo. The lights are huge! Don't like at all, the bonnet looks all wrong somehow...
all artistic impressions. We wont have any ideas what it will look like till its released, or if mr hans takes some pics of the test mule.
RichieRich
29-04-2007, 23:50
and it so does not sit level!! i dont even think coilovers would solve that! lol
Leonidas
23-05-2007, 23:55
This looks realy well,
Real version will probably be longer,but its lookin good.........
http://blog.worldcarfans.com/blog/8070522.001/8070522.001.Mini2L.jpg
http://blog.worldcarfans.com/blog/8070522.001/8070522.001.Mini1L.jpg
justlivyalife
24-05-2007, 00:08
That's NICE! :D. If it's real... lol.
I think it's a phoptoshop (wheels are different on each car, and no rear 'lip' on one, but it's on the other
however, I think that will look great, especially if the high waistline is kept, and the rounded 'tall' nose
Can't be long until spyshots are found, it's due out in 4 months
Yer top pic is a photochopped leon cupra.
Still looks the business. I'd have one as our second car to replace the sport if it looks like that. :)
Scott
Better than most of the concepts I've seen so far - although I don't like the Altea style rear lights - I always think they look like they should continue into the boot and they couldn't be bothered!
Ol' Timer
24-05-2007, 09:18
I think they are by far the best pics I've seen although they do look like Photoshops to me.
I like the stubby front and high waistline, although I know that feature upset a lot of people on the Mk 4. I still hate the swoopy swage line and the sooner SEAT drop that 'feature' the better as far as I'm concerned.
I just wonder what 'cooking models' would look like with smaller wheels – a bit slab sided perhaps?
As long as they drop the 2.0T petrol and Diesel into the Cupras ;)
chris285
24-05-2007, 11:54
that i have to say is better than the earlier shots
depending when its out i may have to make a tough descision between mk4 and i assume what will be refered to as the mk5 ibiza
Nice, time to change the mk4 me thinks...
I still hate the swoopy swage line and the sooner SEAT drop that 'feature' the better as far as I'm concerned.
maybe that day is today?
The latest released sketches have dropped it see here (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1398133#post1398133)
rashcupra
24-05-2007, 17:55
looks VERY AUDI! i like it tho! ^^^^^^
chris285
24-05-2007, 17:56
looks VERY AUDI! i like it tho! ^^^^^^
was thinking the same think, looks nice from the impression:)
Saw this the other day...is it a possible photoshop too?
http://www.infomotori.co.uk/foto/N/art_18876_2_1.jpg
Ibiza 130 tdi
24-05-2007, 18:19
http://www.infomotori.co.uk/foto/N/art_18876_2_1.jpg
That looks revolting....the one further up looks brill actually!!! :thumbup:
I think this one is from a design study - I've seen a whole raft of images somewhere that were all really similar to each other, with slight differences
this one looks like a shitirover
http://www.parkers.co.uk/imagecache/file/630/archive/Rover/CityRover/BMR-1103-1414-.jpg
Shortride
24-05-2007, 23:28
This looks realy well,
Real version will probably be longer,but its lookin good.........
http://blog.worldcarfans.com/blog/8070522.001/8070522.001.Mini2L.jpg
http://blog.worldcarfans.com/blog/8070522.001/8070522.001.Mini1L.jpg
Loving that if it happens!!!! [B)]
This looks realy well,
Real version will probably be longer,but its lookin good.........
http://blog.worldcarfans.com/blog/8070522.001/8070522.001.Mini2L.jpg
http://blog.worldcarfans.com/blog/8070522.001/8070522.001.Mini1L.jpg
wow.. they look great!! Now I would buy one if it looked like that.
Ol' Timer
25-05-2007, 14:52
The more I look at it the more I like it. It certainly knocks spots off the new Fabia. If SEAT could produce a car which looked something like that, with a properly sorted chassis and solid build I could still be driving a SEAT as my next car.
If they are 'shopped I think SEAT should find out who did them and offer them a job pronto.
This looks realy well,
Real version will probably be longer,but its lookin good.........
http://blog.worldcarfans.com/blog/8070522.001/8070522.001.Mini2L.jpg
http://blog.worldcarfans.com/blog/8070522.001/8070522.001.Mini1L.jpg
Looks very similar in proportions to our colt
http://www.fermodes.de/pictures/autonews/01028-gross.jpg
The yellow one looks like a pit boot !
The yellow one above looks a lot like..
New Fabia
Suzuki Swift
Misti Colt
etc
etc
All seem to be following the same high swage ling and rear window shape.
The yellow one above looks a lot like..
New Fabia
Suzuki Swift
Misti Colt
etc
etc
All seem to be following the same high swage ling and rear window shape.
due to pedestrian collision safety laws cars will start to look more alike :(
Looks very similar in proportions to our colt
http://www.fermodes.de/pictures/autonews/01028-gross.jpg
Lets hope residuals are a little better than the colt, 40% in one year is a hard figure to stomach.
Lets hope residuals are a little better than the colt, 40% in one year is a hard figure to stomach.
a 2nd hand bargain then :D
good job residual's have no bearing on it for us then.
mind you 'real' life residuals on teh Ibiza sucked, depending on the model
justlivyalife
29-05-2007, 16:29
307s are rubbish for depreciation, the Ibiza is a lot better residually!
rashcupra
29-05-2007, 20:13
the yellow ibiza could be made to look better with a few personal touches but if it looks ANAYTHING like the silver 1 then its a FLOP!
a 2nd hand bargain then :D
too right, Colt CZT for under 7k, bit of a bargain i would say.
they seem a bit nippy too, one nearly caught me out the other day in the mini, i had to drop a gear to get rid of him.
As for the new Ibiza. If and i know the answer already, but if SEAT decide to do a car like the above, looks wise, with the 2.0 tdi lump and DSG gearbox then it will be my next car. i would also consider it if they did a 1.4 TSI lump too, but it has to have the DSG gearbox.
Otherwise i'll just stick to my original plan of changing to a 2.0Tdi 4motion DSG Golf as next car.
Leonidas
10-07-2007, 22:42
http://i16.tinypic.com/5zr52bt.jpg
http://i7.tinypic.com/4uxf9s8.jpg
http://i9.tinypic.com/4zlhutw.jpg
I like the interior a lot.:lol:
Ibiza 130 tdi
10-07-2007, 22:47
Tbh they obv dont have a clue what its gonna look like! :lol:
I would buy that if it had a 20vt in it
if they drop the 20vt I would go diesel as the 2.0t is just a bit too heavy on the petrol
think they might drop the pd130/160 and go 16v140/170 anyway for the mk5
my money's on the 1.8TFSi that is in the Altea's for the Ibiza, for top end petrol
diesel will probably be something similar to the current leon line up, but slightly lower (so still 160bhp at the top)
what 1.8TFSi is that Mork??
I think it waill be the 1.4 TSI lump for the Ibiza as far as top end petro is concerned, it makes sense. However there is also a 1.6 TSi lump on the way too, but can't see them letting the Ibiza get too close to the Leon Cupra.
I just hope and i pray, that it looks like some of the suggestions, as i will be back in SEAT ownership, oh and its got to have the 2.0 Tdi lump for me to come back, fingers crossed.
2.0Tdi and 2.0TFSI (from the leon FR)
Thats what I want to see!!
what 1.8TFSi is that Mork??
http://www.worldcarfans.com/news.cfm/newsid/2070427.002/country/gcf/Seat/seat-altea-xl-adds-1.8-tfsi-to-range
well i never, have Vags engine dep gone bloody design crazy. I thought they were gonna try these smaller engines, then they release a 1.8TFSi, any of it based on the old 20v lump etc
rashcupra
11-07-2007, 13:34
not bothered what engine they do it looks like a mini leon! but as stated abouve they clearly dont have a clue what its gonna look like all the pics have beeen diffrent so far!!!
nah they seem to have a common theme which is the smaller leon shape, in keeping with the corporate front. Whatever end up doing pretty sure the interior and quality will be leaps on from the mk4, and about time too
RichieRich
11-07-2007, 17:48
i preffer my 07 plate to that maybe one reason i got while i still can lol
j.a.kelly
11-07-2007, 18:57
ooooo order me one of those yellow ones!! Really hope it looks like that, cat believe its out so soon and there has been so little detail around :s
JK
Triple D
11-07-2007, 19:01
when they due out? september?
That is a crap photoshop. Reckon top model will stick with a updated 1.8T
Possibly the mk5's cupra engine.
http://www.fourtitude.com/news/uploads/Audi_News/001__scaled_600_082.jpg
The Audi 1.8 TFSI engine
TFSI technology underwent its baptism of fire in the victories at Le Mans, the toughest endurance race in the world. The superiority of this combination of petrol direct injection and turbocharging has now been demonstrated on ordinary roads in the 2.0 TFSI, which has been available since September 2004. Audi is now stepping up its campaign with the successful TFSI concept: the new high-tech 1.8 TFSI engine combines sporty dynamism with outstanding smoothness, and blends a spontaneous power characteristic with ample refinement.
The new engine generation bears the project number EA888 and follows in the footsteps of the already legendary 827 series, one of the most successful families of engines in automotive history. This compact, high-performance, economical four-cylinder version made its debut back in 1972 in the Audi 80. In the intervening years it has been fitted over 40 million times as the power unit for countless Audi models and various other vehicles of Volkswagen group brands. It has been steadily refined over the years, always remaining at the cutting edge of technology.
Pioneering achievement by Audi
The latest evolutionary stage of this engine range is the much-acclaimed 2.0 TFSI. At Audi, it is being used in the A3, A4 and A6, in three different performance versions ranging from 170 to 220 bhp. The 2.0 TFSI has most latterly demonstrated its special potential in the new Audi S3, with an output of 265 bhp and peak torque of 350 Nm.
This engine is yet another pioneering achievement, because Audi has once again become the first manufacturer in the world to combine petrol direct injection with turbocharging in volume production. The result is an engine that is not only very popular with customers for its power characteristic and propulsion, but has also garnered the approval of the experts: a jury of 56 leading journalists from 26 different countries awarded the 2.0 TFSI the title of "Engine of the Year" for two years in succession (2005 and 2006).
This was therefore an ideal basis for developing the next logical stage. Audi's engineers had drawn up a long list of tasks for the new project. Right at the top � as is always the case at Audi � was maximum driving fun, as the result of high responsiveness, performance and torque even at low engine speeds. The engine was simultaneously to be quiet, smooth and low on vibrations, suitably reflecting the standards of comfort expected of a sporty premium car. The essential requirements of course included reduced fuel consumption, as well as the potential to keep meeting the toughest emission limits in the world, on a wide range of fuel grades. Finally, the new family of engines is to serve as a genuinely universal engine for use on all five continents.
Ultra-fine fuel jets, precisely distributed
Audi regards FSI technology with turbocharging, now systematically refined for the new engine, as the best way to achieve all these objectives. With FSI technology, fuel is injected directly into the combustion chamber. The new
1.8 TFSI does this at a maximum pressure that has been increased to 150 bar. Together with the new six-hole injectors and air movement in the combustion chamber controlled by charge movement flaps, it guarantees highly homogeneous mixture preparation and very efficient combustion. This supports the engine's agile characteristics and spontaneous power output, as well as its very low fuel consumption in practice.
A new type of high-pressure pump supplies this injection pressure. The pump is driven by a four-fold cam on the exhaust camshaft. This reduces the operating forces required and boosts precision, thus improving the emissions. The high-pressure lines through which the fuel reaches the injectors at maximum pressure are made entirely from stainless steel. The new six-hole nozzles distribute the ultra-fine fuel jets with precision inside the combustion chamber. Dual injection � the distribution of the fuel quantity between the admission stroke and the compression stroke � brings further advantages for the homogenisation of the mixture and heating of the catalytic converters after a cold start.
Turbocharger with improved aerodynamics
The watercooled turbocharger K03, from Borg Warner, maintains optimum cylinder filling. An optimised turbine wheel improves the aerodynamics inside the charger, as a result of which responsiveness lower down the engine range is further enhanced. In the intake system, the redesigned charge movement flap reduces flow losses and simultaneously assures a very homogeneous distribution of the mixture.
The result is an exceptionally spontaneous engine response to the accelerator at all engine speeds: at just 1,000 rpm, the new 1.8 TFSI develops a torque of 165 Nm, with maximum torque available very early on and across the extremely broad range of 1,500 to 4,200 rpm. The peak output of 160 bhp is likewise maintained across an extremely broad plateau of 5,000 to 6,200 rpm. This permits economical gearing that is nevertheless of a sporty character. With a compression ratio of 9.6:1, the engine is designed to run on premium-grade fuel (95 RON). In the A3 with manual gearbox, the combined-cycle fuel consumption is consequently a modest 7.3 l per 100 km.
Excellent refinement
The TFSI concept is underpinned by the entirely new basic engine. In essence, the only thing its engine block has in common with its precursors is the cylinder spacing of 88 millimetres. Audi's engineers chose this dimension because it keeps the dimensions very compact and allows the engine to be installed either longitudinally or transversely in the engine compartment. Two counter-rotating balancing shafts are integrated into the crankcase. They are driven by the crankshaft via a toothed chain, and completely suppress the free inertial forces of the second degree that are inherent to this design. Low-frequency humming and vibration are consequently eliminated very effectively.
The development engineers were especially eager to achieve very good acoustic behaviour and smoothness. After all, the new TFSI power units were meant to be exceptionally refined, not just very powerful. Grey cast iron was chosen as the material for the engine block in view of its better acoustic properties. With a finished weight of 33 kilograms, the engine block nevertheless genuinely merits being described as a lightweight design.
The extra-rigid basic structure of the block, acoustically optimised add-on parts and acoustically isolated covers reflect how much fine-tuning went on at the design computers and test benches. The crankshaft is instrumental in determining how smoothly an engine runs: what matters are not just the eight counterweights; its optimised rigidity, underpinned by large main bearings with a diameter of 58 millimetres, is really the determining factor. The result is that even at full load, the 1.8 TFSI is a smooth-running, acoustically restrained, spontaneous engine.
High tech in every detail
As Audi's first four-cylinder engine, the 1.8 TFSI is equipped with a toothed chain to drive the valve gear. The compact chain does not need changing. There are, to be more precise, three chains: the long one to drive the camshafts, and two short ones for the oil-pump and balancing-shaft drives. The use of special toothed chains known as "silent chains" adds further to the outstandingly restrained sound of the new engine. The continuous adjusting mechanism of the intake camshaft has been reengineered; this vane-type system now responds much more swiftly than previous concepts. It promotes a spontaneous response from the engine even starting at low engine speeds.
The engineers also paid attention to keeping the design compact. This led to innovative solutions such as the highly ingenious auxiliaries rack. As well as performing its traditional function, it incorporates the oil cooler, oil filter and oil pressure switch. The formerly basic rack has consequently become the veritable turntable of the oil and water circuits. The integration of the water pump, thermostat and temperature sensor into a single housing also saves space. The turbocharger forms an integral module together with the exhaust manifold. This allows the positioning of the ceramic primary catalytic converter particularly close to the engine, promoting rapid heating-up and, in conjunction with the ceramic close-coupled catalytic converter, keeping emissions low.
Career plan as a universal engine
With these genes, the new 1.8 TFSI has the potential to keep on satisfying the toughest emission limits in the world. After all, it is destined for a career as a true "universal engine". The highly promising new engine that offers ample scope for further development will be going into production simultaneously at Audi's engines plant in Gyφr, Hungary, and in Dalian, China, in autumn 2006, when it will become the first petrol direct-injection engine on the Chinese market. The TFSI concept is likewise ideally equipped for use in the USA and South America, where fuel grades to some extent vary considerably.
Source: http://www.fourtitude.com/news/publish/Audi_News/article_2574.shtml
Ric 2001
12-07-2007, 12:26
"Pioneering achievement by Audi" then someone comes along and bolts a IHI to it.... then need to replace all the injector and internals
"Pioneering achievement by Audi" then someone comes along and bolts a IHI to it.... then need to replace all the injector and internals
The pistons are forged as standard and so the internals can handle up to 350hp stock - supposedly.
Ill be changing my car next year.Ive thought about other small hatchbacks and really cant think of a reason not to get another Ibiza . If it looks anything as good as the Leon and has the 2.0 TDi engine Ill probablly take it :D
Leonidas
29-07-2007, 17:23
Ive heard rumors of the of it being launched in march 08.
Ive heard rumors of the of it being launched in march 08.
Is it still the same platform as the 'old' Mk4 though , which it shares with the new Fabia and Polo ?
Lets hope they pay attention to things like refinement an build quality as well as dynamics and looks .
Is it still the same platform as the 'old' Mk4 though , which it shares with the new Fabia and Polo ?
Lets hope they pay attention to things like refinement an build quality as well as dynamics and looks .
No, the Ibiza is on the 'old' platform - the fabia & polo are on the new one.
I thought the current Polo had the same platform as the current Ibiza? They only changed panels and lights in that facelift.
Last time round the Fabia was launched, and then the Polo and Ibiza followed. I would've thought it would be the same this time. There are spyshots of what I believe are the new Polo on Google News. They are labelled up as new Golf/Rabbit pics but I very much doubt that as the Golf's only been out here for 3 years!
I thought I read in What Car the new Fabia (out now) was on the old platform ? Im confused now, must check . Why would the new Ibiza (out next year) be on an older platform than the Fabia ?:blink:
The old Fabia and the Ibiza that you and I drive are on the same platform.
If the new Fabia is on the "old" platform, they're definately not going to go back to the MK2 Ibiza platform for the upcoming Ibiza!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_A0_platform - check here for the history and all that.
The old Fabia and the Ibiza that you and I drive are on the same platform.
If the new Fabia is on the "old" platform, they're definately not going to go back to the MK2 Ibiza platform for the upcoming Ibiza!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_A0_platform - check here for the history and all that.
Thanks for that . :) Makes a lot more sense if the new cars are all on the new platform which logically should be called AO5 !
I'd be very sadly put off buying the new Beezer if I thought it was on an 'old' platform :shrug::cry:
BeezerDiesel
30-07-2007, 02:16
No, the Ibiza is on the 'old' platform - the fabia & polo are on the new one.
Only the Fabia is on a new platform at the moment (and I am led to believe that it's only a modified mk1 Fabia platform). The Polo 9N3 is the same as the previous 9N and mk4 Beezer/mk1 Fabia, it's only the spring and damper rates that vary quite a bit (plus the roll bar on the front before everyone jumps in :p).
I've come to the conclusion after owning an example of each that it's not a bad chassis, it's just that the cars are too tall and narrow for it!!!
isn't the new fabia twinned with the new suzuki swift ?
suzuki>>>http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.caradvice.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/SuzukiSwiftSport.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.caradvice.com.au/719/suzuki-swift-sport/&h=302&w=480&sz=27&hl=en&start=0&tbnid=2lp_zfTb5m60IM:&tbnh=81&tbnw=129&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnew%2Bsuzuki%2Bswift%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den
fabia>>>http://images.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=http://www.motorauthority.com/wp-content/uploads/Skoda/Fabia/skoda_fabia_2_small.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.motorauthority.com/news/hatchbacks/skoda-previews-next-generation-fabia-hatchback/&h=262&w=510&sz=58&hl=en&start=0&tbnid=BKqvzZZ2ycX31M:&tbnh=67&tbnw=131&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dnew%2Bfabia%26gbv%3D2%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den
no they are just both the poor mans mini :P
If the new ibiza is not in the top 3 for driving dynamics when it comes out im not sure if I will get one TBH. However the news im hearing that the ibiza could be on the same chassis as a audi to be positioned under the A3 makes me very hopeful. Audi dont mess about these days when it comes to chassis'.
More news.
The seat boss at one point did say he wanted the next ibiza to be a modern delta intregrale ie 4wd turbocharged hatchback and heres some news from seats flashier bigger brother audi thats encouraging. The link being is that VAG was split into divisions where audi looked after lamborghini and seat as they were the sportier brands. Ofcourse that setup has now changed with seat being under VW's wing, however as the ibiza will have been in development under a long time before this the car should have alot of audi influence in one way or another, coupled with the reports that audi actually got seat to help design the chassis for their upcoming audi a1.
http://www.cocheactual.es/fotos/sumarios/originales/portada1008.jpg
From AutoWeek:
BMW’s Mini Cooper will come under fire in 2009, when Audi introduces an entry-level A1 model, followed by a top-secret high-performance S1 model aimed squarely at the Cooper S.
Although Audi officials in the United States are mum on the project, highly placed sources in Ingolstadt say the car is being engineered for both the European and the North American market. Coupe, convertible and three- and five-door hatchback versions are all in the product portfolio.
The range-topping performance S1, shown in these illustrations, will be powered by a 180-to-200-hp version of parent company Volkswagen’s 1.4-liter Twincharger (supercharged and turbocharged) engine, coupled to a Haldex-style multiplate-clutch transmission to give it permanent all-wheel drive. A seven-speed direct-shift gearbox would be standard. Sources say the S1 will be capable of 0 to 60 mph in less than 7.0 seconds and will have a top speed of about 150 mph.
The base front-wheel-drive A1 likely will be powered by VW’s 1.4-liter four-cylinder
direct-injection engine, producing 90 hp (naturally aspirated) or 120 hp (turbocharged) in Europe, but larger engines could be offered in U.S. models. Diesel models are also in the works. The standard A1 transmission will be a six-speed manual, with the seven-speed DSG optional on higher-end models.
While styling is always a key element of an Audi’s appeal, engineers aren’t taking dynamics for granted. Early plans had the new car based on the relatively basic and cheap-to-produce underpinnings of the last-generation VW Golf, complete with a torsion-beam rear suspension. But concerns about its ability to deliver a Mini-competitive driving spirit led to the decision to use the newer and more expensive mechanical package from the next-gen VW Polo. The new suspension offers two rear layouts, including a multilink setup that permits greater individual tuning.
Look for the A1 to reach the United States in mid-2010, following its European debut in late 2009. The A1 is part of an extensive new-model push by Audi. Known internally as Route 15, the plan calls for boosting global sales beyond 1.5 million by 2015. AutoWeek has learned the A1 is targeted for first-year sales of 100,000 to 150,000 cars worldwide.
dozza.13
18-08-2007, 17:40
Like that last one in the mag, although there seem to be a few too many swage lines and creases in the bodywork!!!
RichieRich
18-08-2007, 20:28
i quite like that but i dont think my budget would stretch to that lol
More news.
The seat boss at one point did say he wanted the next ibiza to be a modern delta intregrale ie 4wd turbocharged hatchback.
If that's the case then I want a new Ibiza.
Leonidas
01-10-2007, 19:47
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Leonidas
01-10-2007, 19:49
Fook:doh:
Just look here http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/news/auto_-_produkte/hxcms_article_507325_13987.hbs
Ibiza 2008 spy shots
Leon/corsa front end with a new impreza/clio rear. Doesnt seem too promising at the moment but then all cars look crap when under camo!
Leonidas
01-10-2007, 20:19
Actually if ya look at it close, its a fabia I think. It has the same shape and front grill.
RichieRich
01-10-2007, 20:25
it dont look as bad as it used to, i quite like that lol has any1 seen the new fabia? it looks well worse than last year :sick:
jabathehut
01-10-2007, 20:36
A bit off topic but does anyone else think the new subaru looks like the old leon? lol
Actually if ya look at it close, its a fabia I think. It has the same shape and front grill.
The new fabia has already been released though if I understand you correctly!
RichieRich
01-10-2007, 23:47
yes it has... its not worth the drive to the skoda garage to have a look either...
Guinness
01-10-2007, 23:51
nah its not, I seen one today and there fugly. The new ibiza kind of looks like new shape corsa interbreeded with a leon.
dozza.13
02-10-2007, 00:08
That looks wank! :(
pauliepaul
02-10-2007, 01:28
hahaha that really does look absolutely rubbish
Mmm. I'm glad I've got a Mk IV Facelift after seeing that. Just hope it looks better when painted and that the range includes a 1.2 FSI engine.
Ol' Timer
02-10-2007, 09:21
That does look like the genuine thing to me. It's difficult to tell what it looks like under the disguise but I can see the terrible swooping swage lines on the sides so that's it out of the running for me. I will be looking elsewhere next time.
unitzero
05-10-2007, 13:53
Have you seen the TRIBU? ....
http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/uploads/001__scaled_600_117.jpg
Apparently ...."Just as the Salsa prototype was the prelude to the SEAT León, the new Tribu demonstrates the design basis for the next models to be launched by SEAT."
http://http://www.vwvortex.com/artman/uploads/004__scaled_600_062.jpg
Correct, Tribu show's you the 'new' grill and more angular fold down the side of the car vs the 'dynamic line' that the Mk2 Leon/Altea/Toledo all have
So the new Ibiza is a squashed front of a leon + an altea back? :P
Personally i don't like it, but it would be nicer to see proper photos.
Edit : It does look a bit longer than the normal Ibiza though..., plus the rear pillar looks like a bitch when your reversing,
does anyone no when its gonna b released roughly???
2009 last I read. FR and Cupras (if they still do them) will probably be a year or so after that.
mantle79
10-01-2008, 12:30
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mantle79
10-01-2008, 12:32
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mantle79
10-01-2008, 12:32
I wish I knew how to attach images properly!!!!!
mantle79
10-01-2008, 12:39
http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/4070/pic05nb9.jpg
mantle79
10-01-2008, 12:45
[img=http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/4070/pic05nb9.th.jpg] (http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic05nb9.jpg)
RichieRich
10-01-2008, 12:50
u have to use the [img ] [ /img] way...
mantle79
10-01-2008, 12:52
can you explain that a bit more... or do you know of a website to help numb nuts like me?? cheers
Ol' Timer
10-01-2008, 12:53
[img=http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/4070/pic05nb9.th.jpg] (http://img407.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pic05nb9.jpg)
Always good to see the Salsa concept making a reappearance.:whistle:
i use http://photobucket.com/, then you just copy and paste the img title thingy
mantle79
10-01-2008, 13:01
<a href="http://s273.photobucket.com/albums/jj212/mantle79/?action=view¤t=seat_ibiza_2009-06.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj212/mantle79/seat_ibiza_2009-06.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
mantle79
10-01-2008, 13:01
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj212/mantle79/seat_ibiza_2009-06.jpg
does anyone no when its gonna b released roughly???
Geneva Motorshow I expect to see a prototype.... possibly the London Motorshow if running late
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj212/mantle79/seat_ibiza_2009-06.jpg
Good to see that lehmann is on the case. We should hopefully see some accurate photoshops of the car soon.
Starscraper
10-01-2008, 21:19
Geneva Motorshow I expect to see a prototype.... possibly the London Motorshow if running late
There's a supplement in the current issue of What Car about new cars for 2008. It says that the new Ibiza might appear at the Madrid Motorshow in May. I just hope it shows up at London as I'm planning on going to it.
Looking at that photo it doesn't seem that the dash design has changed much, of course they could be using an old style dash in it cos the new one hasn't been finished.
I'd expect to see an all new dash in the mk5 as the current dash is being slated in all the reviews now as it's very outdated - not surprising considering the car was launched in 2002!
Hopefully the new dash won't creak all the bloody time like the current one does!!
jabathehut
12-01-2008, 11:00
Was in a dealers yesterday & was speaking to the manager who said he'll get to see the 5 door version in may & will be realesed in the 3/4 of the year & that the 3 door is a completely different car & wont get a release till 2/4 of 2009! so thats gotta be good news yeh?
I cant wait till bloody mid 2006 for a 3 door ibiza, it will atleast take em another 6 months to release a cupra version :(
dannyboy89
12-01-2008, 16:07
i was talkin 2 a seat dealer and he sed the 09 ibiza will luk basically like a shrunken leon, although they have another year yet, and the design will change many times b4 it is released, as just hope its as powerful, if not, more powerful than the mk4 cupra tdi
I was under the impression the Mk5 Ibiza would be out this summer? Hmm..
considering the polo and furby are already out, seems bit of a pi$$take holding back the beeza :shrug:
like the look of this though :)
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb236/stu6963/2008ibiza.jpg
Stu
considering the polo and furby are already out, seems bit of a pi$$take holding back the beeza :shrug:
like the look of this though :)
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb236/stu6963/2008ibiza.jpg
Stu
Thats a photochop, Leon wheels with a shrunken body, does look good though.
seen some other photochop pics, 1st i saw looked decidedly like a KA from the back, and a Leon from the front!!! this was back when the Leon2 first came out!!
Stu
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c153/vicky6963/seat_ibiza_2008_leblogauto.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c153/vicky6963/seat_ibiza_2_2008_leblogauto.jpg
sorry :hide: these were sent to me taken from a magazine!!!!!
Stu
YUCK!! Id imagine the Cupra Version will look like a Corsa VXR then?? Looks like a cute wee mouse....
It seems they are making them all look like each other now, the ibiza, the altea and the leon... I guess they are following the blending of all the models, as even now all the ibizas have the same lettering on the back etc, only difference being the FR + Cupra have the FR+Cupra logos, the rest just say IBIZA on the back..
Seems an odd strategy to take though.
billysexcrime
24-01-2008, 10:06
will look nothing like any of those, or anything like the leon. all we know is that the front end will be very similar to the Tribu concept unveiled last year.
eventually the rest of the range will follow suit, next one probably being the bolero.
And where do you work Billy? :think: ;)
billysexcrime
24-01-2008, 12:04
droitwich seat
no way my cupra is there at the mo!
billysexcrime
24-01-2008, 13:09
which one is it?
the grey 05 petrol cupra. havin a service and a few things fixed under warranty, window and bolt lock. should b ready 4 later.
billysexcrime
24-01-2008, 14:14
is that the ibiza?
considering the polo and furby are already out, seems bit of a pi$$take holding back the beeza :shrug:
like the look of this though :)
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb236/stu6963/2008ibiza.jpg
Stu
If only it would look like this!! That looks awesome. Me wants. Can I make one myself to look like that dya think? lol
if it's like that.. then I'll be having one.
Diablo559
25-01-2008, 21:25
looks like the new fabia round the rear quarter panel window more to the point what do you think will be their stratagy with the engine line up. to me seat has always gave the customer more grunt compared to its sister companys vw and skoda. 180bhp diesel and 220bhp petrol would be nice can't see them putting the leon cupra engine in 240bhp imagine that with a remap lol in that size of a car .
I reckon next Ibiza cupra will retain 180hp and the diesel will probably jump to 170hp.
SEATcarsdirect.co.uk
30-01-2008, 00:23
as far as i know the ibiza will only be released as a 5 door first
sorry wasn't sure if it was mentioned in the thread
Irfan
RichieRich
30-01-2008, 07:15
might be leased first as a 5 door but it is coming out in a 3 door version to!
Leonidas
07-02-2008, 19:12
Dont know if these were shown yet!!!
http://www.motoradictos.com/images/2007/10/seat-ibiza-recreacion-1.jpg
http://www.motoradictos.com/images/2007/10/seat-ibiza-recreacion-2.jpg
http://media.hoymotor.com/pic.ashx?w=221&img=/1267-portada-80EA413463CC6354.jpg
Not to bad i think
Ibiza 130 tdi
07-02-2008, 19:19
Damn that's hidieous. :(
I think it's a rehash of a hyundai
http://www.thetorquereport.com/hyundaii30_2008_800x600_wallpaper_03-thumb.jpg
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080204.001/spy-video-allnew-seat-ibiza
Vid of next ibiza. Going from the drive by you can see where the camo is pushed against the car exterior and you can see that the front bumper appears to have a big air intake lower grill/bumper.
can't See many people buying one of them with a seat badge on it if you can get the Hyundai badged one with a 5 year unlimited mileage warranty
maybe the seat FR or CUPRA will go, stop and handle better though ?
can't See many people buying one of them with a seat badge on it if you can get the Hyundai badged one with a 5 year unlimited mileage warranty
maybe the seat FR or CUPRA will go, stop and handle better though ?
it's not a joint deal, the magazine just photoshopped a hyundai press photo
villain24
07-02-2008, 20:08
That pic briano put up is what the next ibiza will look like cus the spy shots that autocar or express did recently looked identical to that. All i can say is yipppeeeee!!! cus that looks like a hyundai which means generally ugly lookin car:lol: Face it chaps, we've got the best lookin shape, specially when lowered decent allys:lol:
Dont know if these were shown yet!!!
http://www.motoradictos.com/images/2007/10/seat-ibiza-recreacion-1.jpg
http://www.motoradictos.com/images/2007/10/seat-ibiza-recreacion-2.jpg
Not to bad i think
Looks a lot like the mk3 in my eyes
That pic briano put up is what the next ibiza will look like cus the spy shots that autocar or express did recently looked identical to that. All i can say is yipppeeeee!!! cus that looks like a hyundai which means generally ugly lookin car:lol: Face it chaps, we've got the best lookin shape, specially when lowered decent allys:lol:
the spyshots that any of us have seen so far is innaccurate of what it will be. Wait for lehmann syndicate to work their magic ;)
And if they dont we will find out in march anyway.
villain24
07-02-2008, 20:23
Ok so i don't mean lights etc but the general shape will look like that and i'll bet there's only a five door to start.
Alot of cars will be 5 door to start. No doubt the car will be more "podgy" looking but then all superminis are going that way due to regulations :(
Ol' Timer
08-02-2008, 14:37
I've a horrible feeling those Photoshops are pretty accurate, based on the disguised spy shots we've seen. My main problem with it is the two conflicting swage lines which both sweep down in the centre of the car and make it look as if it is drooping and about to break in half.
bobmcgod
08-02-2008, 14:43
Looks like it'll make small children cry.
all new 2008 ibiza is out june/ july of this year
oh and the new toledo is based on the A4 platform also avaiable in estate version
oh and the new toledo is based on the A4 platform also avaiable in estate version
The old B7 platform though not the new audi a4 b8 one.
The old B7 platform though not the new Audi A4 B8 one.
:wtf:Where have you heard this?:confused: My impressions are it's being placed on the PQ46 platform along with the PassatCC/SuperbII oh & of course the Passat B6!!!
:seatgod::seatgod::seatgod:
:wtf:Where have you heard this?:confused: My impressions are it's being placed on the PQ46 platform along with the PassatCC/SuperbII oh & of course the Passat B6!!!
:seatgod::seatgod::seatgod:
Well we have 3 conflicting sources then!
You heard its gonna be on the Passat CC/Superb 2 chassis
Another guy says its gonna be based on the A4 chassis
I say its gonna be based on the A4 chassis, but the old A4 at that.
Cant remember where I got it from as it was such a long time ago.
However we can do some deductions
The next toledo is going to be about the size of a A4, the passat and superb however are larger vehicles, and are getting larger still in the next incarnation. Therefore I doubt it will be riding the same chassis as the Passat CC etc.
Now both I and a SEAT employee have heard it will be sitting on a audi A4 chassis, and its the right size for it. Also at the time of it being developed SEAT was also positioned under and influenced by audi, just like how lamborghini still is. Therefore it would make sense that the next toledo would have audi dna in it. It also ties in with the rumours I have heard of the next ibiza (the sporty versions atleast) having a very similiar rear suspension setup to the upcoming audi A1 which is built to rival the handling qualities of the mini.
However there is no chance in hell that SEAT would get to use audi's latest A4 chassis wonder piece the MLP, and so fore we can deduct that most likely the next toledo will be sitting on a modified A4 chassis, which really is not all to bad.
But then again what do I know, this could very well all be wrong, the new VW ceo martin winterkorn has changed a few things lately!
Well we have 3 conflicting sources then!
You heard its gonna be on the Passat CC/Superb 2 chassis
Another guy says its gonna be based on the A4 chassis
I say its gonna be based on the A4 chassis, but the old A4 at that.
Cant remember where I got it from as it was such a long time ago.
However we can do some deductions
The next Toledo is going to be about the size of a A4, the Passat and superb however are larger vehicles, and are getting larger still in the next incarnation. Therefore I doubt it will be riding the same chassis as the Passat CC etc.
Now both I and a SEAT employee have heard it will be sitting on a Audi A4 chassis, and its the right size for it. Also at the time of it being developed SEAT was also positioned under and influenced by Audi, just like how Lamborghini still is. Therefore it would make sense that the next Toledo would have Audi DNA in it. It also ties in with the rumors I have heard of the next Ibiza (the sporty versions at least) having a very similar rear suspension setup to the upcoming Audi A1 which is built to rival the handling qualities of the mini.
However there is no chance in hell that SEAT would get to use Audi's latest A4 chassis wonder piece the MLP, and so fore we can deduct that most likely the next Toledo will be sitting on a modified A4 chassis, which really is not all to bad.
But then again what do I know, this could very well all be wrong, the new VW CEO martin winterkorn has changed a few things lately!
Not suggesting it wouldn't be great for it to be based on the Audi's' A4 platform B7,8,or9... Yet as the Current Passat & Superb came away from sharing this larger more expensive platform series it seems quite unlikely that VAG would authorize such a plan for Seat!!!
But the current passat and and superb dont share the same chassis as the audi B6 or B7 (if that is infact what you are trying to say?) The current passat platform is actually bigger than that of the B7 audi.
I would think that SEAT using a modified version of the audi B7 chassis would infact be quite cheap as they would not have to retool factories, save development costs etc.
I will see if I can get some confirmation as to what is happening chassis wise to this upcoming SEAT.
bobmcgod
12-02-2008, 23:01
From what I've heard the new borelo (not toledo) will be based on the out going a4 chassis.
Not that any of it matters due to VW's MQB (don't quote me on that name) chassis being every car from fabia to a4/passatcc In vw's massive attempt to take on toyota and gm as worlds largest car builder.
From what I've heard the new borelo (not toledo) will be based on the out going a4 chassis.
Not that any of it matters due to VW's MQB (don't quote me on that name) chassis being every car from fabia to a4/passatcc In vw's massive attempt to take on toyota and gm as worlds largest car builder.
lol yeah thats the one its the bolero not the toledo. I got confused :redface:
VW, skoda and seat will continue extensive platform sharing. Audi's MLP will be unique to them barring some 4x4's and crossover models which could see VW models with a MLP type chassis.
bobmcgod
12-02-2008, 23:17
The new ibiza although possibly fugly should be a good car to drive. I'm mainly thinking about weight tho, the current ibiza is a right fat mofo at 1550kg! (ish) where as the new fabia, assuming the same basic chassis will be used on both cars, is only 1015kg (again ish).
Source being either companies websites and stated kerb weights.
on the seat website they seem to have a typo regarding the ibiza's weight. Apparently its between 1015 ranging to 1200 nowhere seems to give an exact figure.
Ami-Jane
13-02-2008, 09:14
all new 2008 ibiza is out june/ july of this year
anyone got any ideas when the cupra will be released?? also has anyone heard any rumours as to what engines will be put in the new ibizas?
But the current Passat and and superb don't share the same chassis as the Audi B6 or B7 (if that is infect what you are trying to say?) The current Passat platform is actually bigger than that of the B7 Audi.
I would think that SEAT using a modified version of the Audi B7 chassis would infect be quite cheap as they would not have to retool factories, save development costs etc.
I will see if I can get some confirmation as to what is happening chassis wise to this upcoming SEAT.
Not to continue to off topic... The SuperbII will be based on the same PQ46(Passat B6) platform derived from the PQ35(GolfV) platform. The previous generations of each SuperbI/PassatB5-B5.5 were based on the Audi A4's B5 platform. That understood the reasoning behind moving the B6 Passat off the B6 Audi A4 platform was expense of said platform. Thus it would be highly unlikely that Seat would be the only non-luxury brand to receive this platform! It will more than likely receive a version of the PQ46 platform whether it be the longer wheelbase SuperbII or the shorter wheelbase PassatB6. Then we'll just have to see if it gets the Bolero or Toledo name tag...
As far as which is a bigger platform: PassatB4-103.3in, PassatB5-106.4in, PassatB6-106.7in(equivalent to 2710mm), A4/S4B5-102.6in/103.0in, A4/S4B6-104.3in/104.4in/104.6in, A4/A5B7-104.3in, A4B8-108.3in/110.5in SuperbI-110.4in SuperbII-2761mm(equivalent to 108.7in) {equivalency figures provided at a rate of 2.54cm to an in.}! So yes the PassatB6 does have a longer wheelbase than that of the A4B7 yet not of the A4B8...
Besides you yourself state that the Audi MLP(B8) platform series will remain exclusive to Audi while extensive platform sharing will continue amongst VW, Skoda, & Seat so I think we all know what to expect at the Geneva-Auto show.:funk:
anyone got any ideas when the Cupra will be released?? also has anyone heard any rumors as to what engines will be put in the new Ibizas?
The New Ibiza will likely debut at the 2008 Geneva Auto-Show followed by firmer specs late spring early summer. With the 1st 2009 production models available late summer early fall. FR & Cupra models shouldn't be expected till 2011 model line-up likely showing up at the Geneva show in 2010 possibly the 2009 Frankfurt show.
Engines can be expected to be similar to the FabiaII range... 1.2 70hp, 1.4 85hp, 1.6 105hp, 1.4TDI 70-80hp, 1.9TDI 105hp... In addition to this line up we're likely to see the 1.4TfSI 125hp, 1.4TSI 140-170hp, 1.8TfSI 160hp, 1.6CR 85-135hp!!!
That reminds me of a BMW 1 series, the sides seem identical. well do of the top of my head anyway!
Not to continue to off topic... The SuperbII will be based on the same PQ46(Passat B6) platform derived from the PQ35(GolfV) platform. The previous generations of each SuperbI/PassatB5-B5.5 were based on the Audi A4's B5 platform. That understood the reasoning behind moving the B6 Passat off the B6 Audi A4 platform was expense of said platform. Thus it would be highly unlikely that Seat would be the only non-luxury brand to receive this platform! It will more than likely receive a version of the PQ46 platform whether it be the longer wheelbase SuperbII or the shorter wheelbase PassatB6. Then we'll just have to see if it gets the Bolero or Toledo name tag...
As far as which is a bigger platform: PassatB4-103.3in, PassatB5-106.4in, PassatB6-106.7in(equivalent to 2710mm), A4/S4B5-102.6in/103.0in, A4/S4B6-104.3in/104.4in/104.6in, A4/A5B7-104.3in, A4B8-108.3in/110.5in SuperbI-110.4in SuperbII-2761mm(equivalent to 108.7in) {equivalency figures provided at a rate of 2.54cm to an in.}! So yes the PassatB6 does have a longer wheelbase than that of the A4B7 yet not of the A4B8...
Besides you yourself state that the Audi MLP(B8) platform series will remain exclusive to Audi while extensive platform sharing will continue amongst VW, Skoda, & Seat so I think we all know what to expect at the Geneva-Auto show.:funk:
My sources said that the passat stopped using the same audi A4 chassis as it was hindering audi. Their reasoning was that an audi should drive differently to a VW, and better at that to justify the extra cost to the consumer!
Getting info on SEAT's and VW's not yet in production before car mags is very hard. Im not having much luck with any info "leaks". I can tell you how much power and what engine the next audi S4 and the TT-RS will have though lol.
Anyway geneva soon then we will find out more!
I dont have a clue about chassis or power to weight ratios...but i have found several pics of what the "new ibiza" may look like...
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/2889/ibizarest9umsg5.th.jpg (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ibizarest9umsg5.jpg)
http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/6662/ibizarest27luek5.th.jpg (http://img257.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ibizarest27luek5.jpg)
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/4563/90712100031miq0.th.jpg (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=90712100031miq0.jpg)
http://img168.imageshack.us/img168/6448/ibiza2008xf5.th.jpg (http://img168.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ibiza2008xf5.jpg)
Not sure which one is the actual new ibiza....thats if any of them are!:shrug:
Either way...i think i'll stick to ma Mk2 :p
Ibiza 130 tdi
27-02-2008, 17:56
Basically - no one has a clue what its gonna look like! :lol:
So Geneva is here... anyone know anymore? The above link seems to be the only Seat Ibiza replacement altho it does not mention it?
Either way, them pics look awesome. Now if thats the new Ibiza... oh yes Happy Days :D
Ibiza 130 tdi
11-05-2008, 18:56
http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q199/ashleydunderdale/s3.jpg
r6_allan
13-05-2008, 12:49
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/EDITORIAL/CARS/FEATURES/first_drive_2008_seat_ibiza_car_review.html
chrisarmes
24-05-2008, 18:25
does anyone know when the new ibiza will be around?
does anyone know when the new Ibiza will be around?
Try June-July on the 5 door & Sept.-Nov. for the 3...:funk:
RichieRich
27-05-2008, 17:08
in the "car" magazine it says july :( there is going to be a 1.2 69 bhp,1.4 84bhp,1.6 101bhp and only one deisel at the time of lunch 1.9 103bhp apparently..... :)
Ol' Timer
28-05-2008, 13:43
I don't know if this has been posted before but according to this article by Autocar the three door version is being revealed at the British Motor Show in July. According to them it will look just about the same as the Bocanegra and could be on sale at the beginning of 2009. :)
http://www.autocar.co.uk/News/NewsArticle/AllCars/232942/
unitzero
30-05-2008, 20:35
what diesel magazine has an an article with pictures etc.. petrol 5 doors set to be released in July and uses the upcoming Polo platform.
link (http://www.whatdiesel.co.uk/newsitem.aspx?newsid=1133)
:D
rashcupra
30-05-2008, 20:56
its a blooy mk2 leon lazy seat why cant they make their models look diffrent :confused:
unitzero
30-05-2008, 21:05
long time no seatcupra.net , not sold the cupra yet rash?