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Hi guys,
Zboyd, on my post of my 200hp Ibiza, you told me a little more about that less restrictive turbo/boost inlet pipe.
Well, I've tried to describe it to my local dealer, but he's not really sure about what it is... (translation to french :) )
When I told him about something flattened, then he thought he maybe knew what it was..
Now, I've contacted ABT in switzerland, and the don't do that part for the Ibiza, only VW and maybe Léon...
Is there a way to buy that part from RSD ??
And has someone taken a picture of it ?? (or maybe can do it ? ;) It'll be great !!!)
Thanks !
www.awesomegti.com
www.roadandsport.co.uk
www.oettinger.com
www.impossible-performance.cwc.net
all do it but the last one is the cheapest
Antonio
Im going upto Awesome GTi on Saturday so will enquire about it while im there, cause they do the ABT pipe, i'll be able to tell if i can see one how well it matches to my own.
RSD do it in conjunction with Oettinger, dont email em though cause you'll never get a reply unless your very lucky. Better to phone ask for Tony or Danny.
Get back to you with more info once i have it.
Mark awesomes's one is a ABD one...see attached
It is bought from impossible who are the uk distributor for ABD parts. There are only 2 different pipes and the only differnece is the bore at one end by 2mm. I think they changed size in 1999 but i could be wrong.
David
Ok Guys, thanks very much !!!
I've checked the links, and there are a few pic..
I think I know now the benefit of it.. ;-)
does it take a lot of time to fit ?
Zboyd, you have pictures of it on awesomegti... don't know if you could already tell something ?`
see ya !
Cheers David thats me being puddled not reading it right, yep its an ABD not an ABT as i said :p
David has just posted a picture of it above.
Cheers David thats me being puddled not reading it right, yep its an ABD not an ABT as i said :p
David has just posted a picture of it below.
Petrolhead Paul
30-10-2001, 11:00
David has just posted a picture of it above. [/B]
Why did they polish it up? Its not like you can see the bugger
you can see kit a little i suppose
Ok ...
I just posted my message when David was posting :) didn't saw..
well, if I understand well, original one is more like a piece of rubber :D , and new one would be in whole metal...
impossible to squish then ....... :cool: :cool:
ok, but... 145 pounds !!! is an expensive part !!
is there a way to have it cheaper than that ??
I don't want to put more than 80 pounds... otherwise, it's not worth having +5 to 10 hp...
So, RSD does sell the Oettinger one ? or is it a self-made ? do they sell that "alone" ??
THX !
yeah but there one is £240......hahahahahahaha
so you don't think 5-8bhp is worth £140
Yeah !!
don't think it's worth the price ...
And also, it is described for 1.8T VW !!!
not sure it will fit into my Ibiza.......
I'd rather prefer also, Oettinger or ABT part... much more safier for here...
Well, I just hope RSD can sell it... and not to expensively ;-)
There are only 2 variances of the pipe. and the pipes will it all VAG models.... the cheapest one is £150 the dearest £240.
david
trying to make it simple
By the way Antonio so you dont get confused, the inlet pipe is not rubber even as standard, it is cast metal alloy. Its the intake for the HOT :devil: exhaust gases which enter the turbo.
The reason these modified pipes are claimed to give such an improvement is that they allow the hot gases to pass quicker and smoother thru the inlet, and providing a good gain in horsepower and response.
Not sure what RSD are charging for their pipe on its own, as i had it fitted as part of a conversion process, you'll have to contact them, but im sure they'll export it out to you.
The 1.8 T VW is the same engine to a certain extent, things like inlet should be pretty much standard, I drive a SEAT Leon and the same pipe RSD fitted to mine fits the Ibiza 20VT also, im also pretty sure they slap them in Golfs too.
As for 8-10bhp gains for say an average of £200, thats very cheap especially when you include you add the chip also and gain a lot more, like in the Leon almost 30bhp and over 40nm of extra torque. The Ibiza's gain more cause they start with less.
Other cars like normally aspirated cars, could spend double that figure and gain maybe the same 8-10bhp or even less.
Turbo's are cheap efficient and easy to modify, more go for your buck by miles compared to your average normally aspirated car.
But all cars have their strengths and weaknesses, in my opinion £200 for 8-10bhp is a bargain.
Ok Zboyd !
so it's not the part that is visible when you open the cover's engine, then..
it behind the turbo ?!
I thought it was in rubber because, you said it was flattened in the default one..
It is flattened but cast that way out of metal, its right down the back of the engine underneath the turbo, very difficult to see, especially in the more crampt engine bay of the Ibiza.
The rubber hose i think your thinking of is the air inlet, totally different, thats on top connected to your airbox or induction kit if you have one.
Your talking about the pipe that leads into the throttle body.
yeah guys...
I know.. but
1) I'm don't know much about mechanics.. I'm a computer tech. ;)
2) it's even harder to translate words that I don't even understand in my own language..
so.. that's why, you have to explain things a bit further :D ...
Well, I'll think I'll have a ring with RSD to see if they will sell this part alone.. and to check the price.. (they won't answer mails, isn't it ??)
thx.-
Thats what i am saying they do sell it but its £240.
help me out here Mark
Antonio.
I am a computer user (actually im a designer), David is also a computer tech as you say, but we've had quite a bit of experience with whats happening in the SEAT tuning world, wer not mechanics though, so I can't give you detailed information on it. RSD are probably better equiped for that purpose.
Its hard to explain it if i cant show it to you, but getting a photgraph of it is also going to be very difficult because of where it is in the engine.
Im absolutely positive that RSD will sell you one , as David has said this could be upto £240 for the pipe, which is quite expensive, but as i've said it was cheaper for me, as it was part of an overall package.
The best advice i can give is TO GIVE RSD A RING. +44(0)1295 750651
Yes they wont answer EMAILS so better to call them.
Though if the ABD is cheaper then maybe worth enquiring about that also, as i said earlier im going to Awesome GTi on Saturday, so maybe i can get more info about the ABD pipe. Awesome are not SEAT specialists though by his own admission, so he'll be able to look at my car as comparison to see if the ABD type will fit or not.
Hope this is clear if not im off to study German or Austrian or whatever it is you speak native. :D
The ABD one will fit but you need to tell them what year your car is as there are 2 variations. I personally took my car to impossible-performance who are the uk importers for abd and YES iIT fITS a SEAT:devil:
chungster
30-10-2001, 18:24
Antonio....
If you are serious....i'll get you the RSD one for 200 british pounds!
Or...you could ring Oettinger and ask them for one in DM's.
Is it worth it..........you'll notice the difference when you nail it.
Basically......you;ve got the ECU which makes the turbo runs more boost. When it hits the sweet spot...it wants to suck in as much air into the turbo as fast as possible.
The std pipe is restricted in one end.....so you'll find a little hesitation around 4000rpm if you've chipped it and run the std pipe.
With the new pipe....you'll find the go from 4000rpm to 6000rpm that little bit faster.......
Its upto you.
And why are these things so expensive.....they are made form solid tubular steel...the RSD one is. The ABD ones is alloy.......
And unless you know what you are doing....they are a bugger to fit!
BYE!
Lee i heard that rsd got there own ones made up because the oettinger ones are so dear.
chungster
30-10-2001, 18:49
Actually...you're probably right there dave.
Still...Oettinger has given the RSD designed one a full seal of approval.........so why Oettinger themselves not save money and use that one i'm not sure!
Those German's are always overchargin things....but you pay for quality these days!!
How's ya car doin'???
Me and Paul scared the crap out of a Yellow Ibiza Cupra over the weekend..when we came back down from the midlands!
Think he saw our Oettinger badges!! hehehe
Ok thanks all of you !!
Well, thanks Chungster for the offer..
I'll check with my preparator, if he's up to fitting it with me ;-))
otherwise, Zboyd, hopefully, I live in the french part of Switzerland..
nothing to do with austria nor germany..
French !! :D
C u guys..
Thats where ive been going wrong then :D
Au voir :) thats the extent of my french