what do you think of the new seat leon 150bhp TDi FR guys??? anybody read up on it yet???
Is it going to be launched here?
I presume so, because they're releasing the same engine in the toledo some time this year. they'de be foolish not too, i've got a couple of other pics, i'll attach!!
Full specs of it? Presume 4WD from the badge?
LEO LION R
07-01-2003, 09:42
As we never get any 4wd versions here, i think at the moment it's fair to presume it will not be a UK car.
Diesel sales have been on a steady rise in the UK for past 3 years, and still Seat won't give us the good ones, no offense to 110 owners - but lets face it 150bhp & 236lb/ft tuneable to 190bhp & 300lb/ft does sound very interesting in a Leon with R footing.
:cheers:
but lets face it 150bhp & 236lb/ft tuneable to 190bhp & 300lb/ft does sound very interesting in a Leon with R footing.
Given the APR tuning specs from the PD130, figures like that should be achievable...
If Seat UK woke up, they might find such a car would be of interest to a few more Scooby owners and the like looking for something cheaper to run...
It's got to be a major consideration in chipped form 4WD and 190BHP hasn't it. To top that a possible 50MPG
you can have optional 4x4 or FWD, although the FWD has the acceleration and top speed advantages. seat have also developed a new braking system called "ADAM", which is included in 4x4 option. i will try and find the write up on it and post it. if you browse the net for 'seat leon sport FR' you should find some details on the net, but the stuff i've seen so far is in spanish and french, but i do have an english spec somewhere. it will probably cost around £17k when it comes out from what is on the net.
Originally posted by Chri5B
Given the APR tuning specs from the PD130, figures like that should be achievable...
If Seat UK woke up, they might find such a car would be of interest to a few more Scooby owners and the like looking for something cheaper to run...
I know Jabbasport do PDs now and got 199BHP and 320lbs/ft torque from a 150 with 13K on the clock.
More sportiness for the SEAT León
The SEAT León showcases a sportier range with the recent addition to its offer of a new finish called Sport FR (Formula Racing). The León Sport FR features an attractive, standard equipment level, which is being proposed for the 180 hp (132 kW) 1.8 20VT and 150 hp (110 kW) 1.9 TDi engines, in both their front and four wheel drive versions.
This equipment level includes several elements from the previous León Cupra V6 version. The exterior features a prominent front bumper design, characterised by the horizontal symmetry of the six, engine cooling air vents, each one covered with a honeycomb mesh, which house the foglamps. The bumpers, rear spoiler, door sills, side moulding, rear mirror structures and door handles are all in body colour.
At first sight, these new versions are also identified by the letters "FR" (with the "F" in grey and the "R" in red), located on the front wings beneath the indicator repeaters, and the chromed tailpipe. Their sporty nature can also be seen on the exclusive, 17 inch bolted alloy rims, shod with 225/45 tyres and featuring five double spokes.
Exclusive equipment
Standard safety elements on the Sport FR finish include driver airbag and switchable passenger airbag, side airbags, ABS, TCS on the engines with front-wheel drive, ESP with "ADAM" (brake assistance system) on the 4 versions, and height adjustable front seatbelts with pyrotechnic pre-tensioners.
Standard elements of comfort on the new León Sport FR range include climatiser, on-board computer, front and rear power windows, sport seats, electric, heated door mirrors, remote controlled central locking, Aura radio CD sound system with 8 speakers, two-tone horn and 12 Volt socket in the boot, among others.
The passenger compartment of the León Sport FR also stands out with exclusive details such as the instrument panel dials with their white background and other touches of colour, for example the aluminium embellisher around the central console and the decorative rim on the gear lever knob.
ESP + ADAM = MORE safety
As mentioned earlier, the units featuring 4 traction are equipped with ESP and the "ADAM" system. This safety element, which is optional on versions with front-wheel drive for 511 €, is a sophisticated, state-of-the-art braking aid that activates itself in emergency conditions, guaranteeing more efficient braking.
By monitoring the pressure exerted on the brake pedal, the system recognises emergency situations and maintains the necessary pressure for ultimate braking efficiency, since the system increases pressure and takes full advantage of the servo-brake, so the driver and occupants can ride more safely.
Options for added attraction
The list of optional features includes an attractive seat package with leather/Alcantara upholstery, with lumbar adjustment and electric positioning on the front seats and electric door mirrors with park position.
Other optional elements on the FR versions are volumetric alarm, ESP for both front-wheel drive engines, standard navigation system, electric sunroof, 6 CD loader in the glove compartment, telephone pre-installation and rain sensing wipers.
Besides, the new dynamic navigation system is also available, which transmits information via symbols and reads both music and map CDs.
From 211 to nearly 230 km/h
If the description of the León Sport FR sounds promising, its performance matches its expectations. Starting at a top speed of 211 km/h with the total traction 150 hp TDi, this new range reaches just under 230 km/h with the 180 hp petrol engine.
Regarding consumption values, the engine that logically requires less fuel is the front-wheel drive 150 hp 1.9 TDi, which only needs 4.3 litres of Diesel fuel to cover 100 km over the extra urban cycle.
Engines Top speed (km/h)
Acceleration
(0 to 100 km/h)
Extra urban cycle
consumption
(l/100km)
1.8 20VT 180 hp (132 kW) 229
7.7
6.5
1.8 20VT 180 hp 4 (132 kW) 224
7.8
7.5
1.9 TDi 150 hp (110 kW) 215
8.9
4.3
1.9 TDi 150 hp 4 (110 kW) 211
9.1
5.1
EQUIPMENT
Cupra spirit
EXTERIOR
Specifically designed front bumper with honeycomb mesh
Front foglamps integrated in the bumper mesh
Bumpers, side mouldings, side sills and door handles in body colour
Specifically designed rear spoiler and door mirrors in body colour
Protruding, chromed tailpipe
"FR" identification badge beneath indictor repeaters on both front side wings
Anti-theft roof aerial (except with navigation system)
INTERIOR
Aluminium colour central console embellisher
Three-spoke leather sports steering wheel
ELECTRIC/ELECTRONIC
Front and rear power windows
Heated, electric door mirrors
Two tone horn
12 Volt socket in the boot
Aura radio CD player with 8 speakers
Remote controlled central locking
3rd generation electronic immobiliser with cryptocoding
SEATS AND UPHOLSTERY
Sport front seats
Specific Sport upholstery
Leather gear lever knob and hand brake grip. Aluminium rim around gear lever knob
Three rear headrests
FUNCTIONAL AND MECHANICAL
Power steering
Chassis number visible through windscreen
Height adjustable headlamps
SAFETY
Height adjustable front seatbelts with pyrotechnic pre-tensioner
Three-point rear seatbelts
Driver and passenger airbag
Side airbags
Switchable passenger airbag
ABS
Standard TCS on front-wheel drive versions
Standard ESP with ADAM (braking aid system) on 4 versions
AIR CONDITIONING
Climatiser
Pollen filter
INSTRUMENT PANEL
Instrument panel dials with white background
Rev counter
Dual memory on-board computer
RIMS AND TYRES
7J x 17" alloy rims
225/45 R17 tyres
Optional equipment
The extensive list of standard equipment can be complemented with a wide range of optional elements.
Leather package: includes full leather upholstery, front seats with lumbar adjustment and electric positioning. Electric door mirrors with park position.
Alcantara package: combination leather/Alcantara upholstery, front seats with lumbar adjustment and electric positioning. Electric door mirrors with park position.
Volumetric alarm
ESP on front-wheel drive versions
Standard navigation system
Dynamic navigation system (including 6-CD loader)
6-CD changer in the glove compartment
Rain sensing wipers
Telephone pre-installation
Electric sunroof
Metallic paint
TECHNICAL DATA
Diesel or petrol, front-wheel drive or 4
1.8 20VT 180 CV
1.8 20VT 180 CV 4
1.9 TDi 150 CV
1.9 TDi 150 CV 4
ENGINE
Type 4 cylinders in line - 5 V
4 cylinders in line - 2 V
Effective displacement (cc) 1781
1896
Bore / stroke (mm) 81.0 x 86.4
79.5 x 95.5
Compression ratio 9.5
19.5
Power output (kW/hp/rpm) 132/180/5500
110/150/4000
Max. Torque (Nm/rpm) 235/4500
320/1900
Fuel supply system Multipoint injection, turbo and intercooler
Direct injection with injection pump, turbocharged and intercooler
Ignition system Electronically mapped
Preheated spark plugs
Fuel system Unleaded gasoline
Diesel
Emission control system Catalytic converter with Lambda probe
Catalytic converter
Alternator (A) 120
90/120
Battery capacity (Ah/A) 60/280
70/340/ /80/380
PERFORMANCE
Top speed (km/h) 229
224
215
211
Acceleration 0-100 km/h (s) 7.7
7.8
8.9
9.1
In-gear acceleration (V) 80-120 km/h (s) 8.0
9.3
9.0
9.0
In-gear acceleration (VI) 80-120 km/h (s) 10.5
10.5
12.0
11.5
Acceleration 1000 m (s) 28.2
28.4
30.0
30.8
CONSUMOS
Urban cycle (l/100 km) 11.7
13.0
7.1
8.1
Extra urban cycle (l/100 km) 6.5
7.5
4.3
5.1
Combined (l/100 km) 8.4
9.4
5.3
6.2
TRANSMISSION
Gearbox Manual 6 g.
Ratios I 3.357
3.417
3.769
3.769
II
2.087
2.105
2.087
2.087
III
1.469
1.481
1.324
1.324
IV
1.150
1.151
0.977
0.911
V
1.194
1.166
0.975
0.902
VI
0.975
0.969
0.814
0.756
R
3.990
4.107
4.630
4.630
Final drive ratio 3.944 (I,II,III,IV)
3.086 (V,VI)
4.200 (I,II,III,IV) 3.315 (V,VI)
3.238 (I,II,III,IV)
2.615 (V,VI)
3.875 (I,II,III,IV)
3.100 (V,VI)
Speed 1000 rpm VI (km/h) 38.6
36.1
54.4
49.4
SUSPENSION
Front Independent, McPherson struts, lower wishbones and anti-roll bar
Rear Directional effect shaft, longitudinal arms, coil springs Multilink axle
Directional effect shaft, longitudinal arms, coil springs Multilink axle
Steering system Power steering
Turning circle between walls (m) 11.2
Brake system Diagonal hydraulica, split, twin circuit, brakes servo. TCSstandard. ESP+ADAM standard for 4
Front / rear brakes Vent. disc/disc
Vent. disc/Vent. disc
Vent. disc/disc
Vent. disc/Vent. disc
Alloy wheels (") 7J x 17
Tyres 225/45
DIMENSIONS
Type 5 doors (Cd: 0.32)
Length/width/height (mm) 4184/1742/1439
Wheelbase (mm) 2511
2518
2511
2518
Track front/rear (mm) 1513/1494
Boot capacity (l) 340
270
340
270
Fuel tank (l) 55
62
55
62
WEIGHTS
Kerb weight (kg) 1372/1289
1476/1396
1397/1315
1536/1450
Gross weight (kg) 1809
1896
1835
1950
Max. towing load w. brake (kg) 1500
1400
Cheers! That's a fairly comprehensive spec :D
Originally posted by rhiger
what do you think of the new seat leon 150bhp TDi FR guys??? anybody read up on it yet???
Back in '01 when I bought the toledo there was also a leon cupra 4 tdi available. It was dropped for '02 and I guess the FR is it's replacement.
Frazer at SEAT Cheshunt mentioned about this Leon model to me before Xmas, also some details about a new engine variant for the Ibiza.
I'll bell him in the morning as many a brain cell has died since he told me and I can't remember exactly what he said. :redface:
:cheers:
Originally posted by Brian27
Frazer at SEAT Cheshunt mentioned about this Leon model to me before Xmas, also some details about a new engine variant for the Ibiza.
I'll bell him in the morning as many a brain cell has died since he told me and I can't remember exactly what he said. :redface:
:cheers:
Probably the 1.4tdi (already available hear).
Leon TDi 150 bhp FrontWD is expected in the UK later on this year, Frazer tells me.
:cheers:
any idea's on cost, i'm thinking of getting a BMW, but may be swayed!!!
Unforunately I'll believe it when I see it.
2wd TDI150 was originally due here in RHD at end of Q1 2002.....then it wasn't, then it was later, then it wasn't again...... :mad:
Make your feggin' minds up!