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The MoffMeister
31-05-2007, 19:01
Hey all posted up about going BT, was going to do gt28rs but after speaking and and seeing people who have had both, im going to do GT2871R instead, its a better spool up and more BHP for a smaller CC engine, plus same size as 28RS.
http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=tp&Product_Code=GRT-TBO-022&Category_Code=BCS
Here's my question though, firstly what turbine housing and what is it exactly does it mean and also the flange i presume it would be T25?
Now i know most bits i need to get with this but if people could please confirm or agree/disagree that would be great before i go out and buy the stuff..
Injectors 550cc.... STILL NEED
4 Bar fuel pressure thingy.... STILL NEED
S3 fuel pump.... STILL NEED
Maf housing... STILL NEED
Manifold? any suggestions, on inlet and normal type? STILL LOOKING
Fmic.... BROUGHT
Exhaust.... BROUGHT
3" DP.... HAD OFFERS
Mapping.... HAD OFFERS
Clutch.... LOOKING
Valves.... BROUGHT
Rod's.... BROUGHT
Pistons.... BROUGHT (well tom)
If i've missed anything i'd be grateful of the help please guys
cheers again
HarveyGTI
31-05-2007, 21:41
Hey all posted up about going BT, was going to do gt28rs but after speaking and and seeing people who have had both, im going to do GT2871R instead, its a better spool up and more BHP for a smaller CC engine, plus same size as 28RS.
http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=tp&Product_Code=GRT-TBO-022&Category_Code=BCS
Here's my question though, firstly what turbine housing and what is it exactly does it mean and also the flange i presume it would be T25?
Now i know most bits i need to get with this but if people could please confirm or agree/disagree that would be great before i go out and buy the stuff..
Injectors 550cc
4 Bar fuel pressure thingy
Maf!! Do i use an s3 housing and use original sensor or just use bigger one to start with??
Manifold? any suggestions, on inlet and normal type?
Fmic Brought
Exhaust Brought
3" DP
Mapping
Clutch
If i've missed anything i'd be grateful of the help please guys
cheers again
erm, a BIG credit card or alot of money:D
cupra_matt
31-05-2007, 23:49
This is the route iam taking with my ibiza, I dont think you will need a 4 Bar FPR stick with the 3 BAR.
ATP are currently out of stock of the GT2871R as i have already ordered my kit.
are you doing the internals of the engine ? as this kit should make near 400 BHP
You'll deffo need rods for a gt2871r mate no buts unless you hold it back a bit then there is no point you might aswell get a gt28rs.
As for flange it is a t25, and the a/r depends on what you use it for. For road use go for a small a/r .64 to reduce lag, dont bother with lower custom a/r as you can choke the turbo.
As you have a cupra you'll need an s3 pump or some sort of booster pump to handle that power. There are two mani options for garret flanges that I am aware of for rhd mani Bill's or JBS.
Best of luck buddy.
HarveyGTI
01-06-2007, 08:10
You'll deffo need rods for a gt2871r mate no buts unless you hold it back a bit then there is no point you might aswell get a gt28rs.
As for flange it is a t25, and the a/r depends on what you use it for. For road use go for a small a/r .64 to reduce lag, dont bother with lower custom a/r as you can choke the turbo.
As you have a cupra you'll need an s3 pump or some sort of booster pump to handle that power. There are two mani options for garret flanges that I am aware of for rhd mani Bill's or JBS.
Best of luck buddy.
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AET also do a cast T25 flange 1.8T manifold. Don't know if anyone runs it, or even if it fits, but their stuff is supposed to be good...
http://www.aetturbosonline.com/
Might be useful for other bits and bobs too.
Also, I'd choose a mapper now and talk to them - let them tell you their requirements on fuelling, you might save a packet by buying the right stuff from the start.
ok mate this is the turbo you want http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Garrett-Turbocharger-GT2871R-Turbo_W0QQitemZ130119380998QQihZ003QQcategoryZ72205QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
i ordered that one this week, ask for 64A/R with T25 exhaust housing.
just to let you know the 2871r will not spool quicker than a GT28RS (prob around 100rpm slower). The 2 are the same physical size and the 2871r is a better turbo choice overall.
myk3
What for Mike? You've not had your eliminator that long?
I strongly advise you choose Bills mani...as speaking with a friend who had the JBS turbo, with the ATP manifold, he had 4 of them as each one cracked
however I think JBS do their own one now, but in terms of customer service....go with Bill
yes a good manifold and down pipe like Bills is a great idea over cast manifolds.
and i too agree with the preference in customer service! i have had bad experience with JBS! [:@]
myk3
What for Mike? You've not had your eliminator that long?
i got a blow at the manifold to head and if i am going to remove the old kit im not going to fit it again, i have had all the internals, clutch, diff done etc, so its a good excuse for an extra 50+ or so BHP with quicker spool.
after i sell the old kit and milltek DP the damage wont be too bad! overall its a cleaner and neater install with a shed load more power and quicker spool.
The MoffMeister
01-06-2007, 09:20
ok guys many thanks for all the info, this is the route im taking..
Will be getting internals done but first am wanting to do everything else, so turbo etc etc, i will get it mapped and hold back on power until i get internals done the engine has only done about 10k so thats why to.
Cupr Matt i have seen the gt2871r on ebay from turbo company they have 3 of them in stock, what else are you getting with your install ie inlet mani etc
Yumann i presume you mean fuel pump? didnt think about that one, but will put that on list to cheers.
Myk3 http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Garrett-Turboc...QQcmdZViewItem, thats the one i was looking at yes, seeming you've done it with 28 elim, what probs would i incur with this, as i know 28 had probs with gear linkage etc? and am thinking about fitting it myself, what you think ok or not?
Also i know someone who has had both no offence meant, he said its spools up quicker and is better for lower CC engines to but obviously more info the better, also you say one will spool up slower then you say it will spool up quicker ?? haha cheers
Harvey its called getting your bank charges back from the tight arse gits so you can do BT, really cant wait want to sh*t my pants again lol
And last one, the manifolds your on about do they cause probs with any routes of orignal pipe work etc as im confused why the eliminator caused probs for people was in the inlet or main manifold etc
And a clutch not sure on what torque this will give but need a good clutch think i have contact through myk3, but wondered what else is there?
The eliminator GTRS has the same sized compressor wheel and housing as the GT28RS, and the turbine again is the same size as the GT28RS. The only issue is the stock K03s exhaust housing on the Eliminator which delays spool from the real GT28RS around 4-500rpm.
So when comparing a real GT2871r to a GTRS Eliminator, although the eliminator is a slight smaller turbo (compressor wheel is 11mm smaller) the 2871r will spool faster due to the fact the exhaust housing on the 71r is allot more efficient.
A real GT28RS to a real GT2871r will spool around 100rpm or so faster, no great big deal which is why the 71r is the better option.
The MoffMeister
01-06-2007, 10:33
now i see lol
As for Tip will i now need an lcr/s3 seeming as i'll be going bigger maf?
Just bought turbo, should be with me soon :-o :blink:
smoothuk
01-06-2007, 11:04
Rob, give Spanny a cal re. clutch, im sure there is something he can do for you, and i know he is coming down soon mate, gotta be worth an ask fella. Very interesting read :) will be good to see it all come together ion the end :)
I strongly advise you choose Bills mani...as speaking with a friend who had the JBS turbo, with the ATP manifold, he had 4 of them as each one cracked
however I think JBS do their own one now, but in terms of customer service....go with Bill
I wasnt talking about shitty ATP mani's! Atp do not do a rhd t25 manifold anyway!
As for jbs's and bill's mani I must object to that both are just as good, however both have different design ideas think wall vs thin wall etc...
I'd just like to add JBS stuff is made by tigart and there very good!
yah Guy makes great manis and Down pipes!
HarveyGTI
01-06-2007, 13:11
I wasnt talking about shitty ATP mani's! Atp do not do a rhd t25 manifold anyway!
As for jbs's and bill's mani I must object to that both are just as good, however both have different design ideas think wall vs thin wall etc...
I'd just like to add JBS stuff is made by tigart and there very good!
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Tig art will sell you them!
it may be good, but the parts supplied are only as good as the customer service that goes with it....and so far, I'm only hearing bad things about JBS
Yah this is very true! they also don’t seem that helpful they always seem to need you to bring the car to them when really it isn’t that necessary.
Yumann, tig art is the same as going through JBS the customer service isn’t any better, when I phoned Guy he was great and happy to help. But JBS would not allow any parts from tig art to be shipped to UK customers without going through them!
Then you just talk to JBS who have a give a sh!t attitude.
I dont see why we have to pay more from JBS when it really would be cheaper for us to order them in direct for Guy in Israel!
oh well just my personal experience [:@]
The MoffMeister
01-06-2007, 15:23
ok appreciate the info and that guys as you mentioned guy in israel is there a contact email or anything??
ok appreciate the info and that guys as you mentioned guy in israel is there a contact email or anything??
www.tig-art.com
but you wont get any thing in the uk without it going through JBS, so may aswell just call JBS direct
The MoffMeister
01-06-2007, 17:09
really how come anyone tired to do it back hand style??
yes mate me, read one of me last posts i said what happened
If you want a fabricated one, there's MIJ in Leicester (or Walsall?), again don't know what they're like, but I've seen a T25 flanged transverse 20vt manifold from them
The MoffMeister
01-06-2007, 17:45
so i've got to keep an eye out for inlet and manifold reckon i'll give the previous and above a look see about prices metal types etc etc
The MoffMeister
03-06-2007, 12:02
Also will i need oil lines?? etc etc
looked through installations on the turbo i presume some of that wont apply to me as im not doing elimnator kit??
http://www.atpturbo.com/root/help/pdf/install/EliminatorSeriesInstallTransverseFWD.pdf
you will need oil return lines yes.
oil return lines....? theres only one
The MoffMeister
04-06-2007, 18:06
in destructions think there's 2 hooch!!
The MoffMeister
04-06-2007, 18:08
isnt that 2 then?
1 feed line 1 return line
so no there is one return line!
you will need oil return lines yes.
i was just stating that there is 1 return so no one gets confussed
The MoffMeister
04-06-2007, 18:21
haha cheers i already am though lol
sorry, i didnt really say properly, you will need the oil return & lines.
i.e. oil and coolant feed and oil and cooant return.
unless you are using eliminator turbo you will need to source all 4 of these, where as if you use eliminator you can use the stock return line if you wish.
myk3
The MoffMeister
04-06-2007, 21:42
yeah never bought elim kit not sure why to be honest lol i will have a search around now for all the lines i'll be needing!!
Mike, I'd be interested in contacting Tigart direct. I can't seem to find them on the net.
I've paid for a custom manifold and downpipe from JBS, but its taking A LOT longer than I was originally quoted to arrive.
HarveyGTI
05-06-2007, 09:18
Mike, I'd be interested in contacting Tigart direct. I can't seem to find them on the net.
I've paid for a custom manifold and downpipe from JBS, but its taking A LOT longer than I was originally quoted to arrive.
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To be honest they seem to be a friendly bunch. The service and attitude I have recieved thus far has been acceptable.
I'm assuming recent addition of some new lines of products has caused a back log.
I just hope they haven't bitten off more than they can chew.
HTC, www.tig-art.co.uk is the same contact number as jbs. how long you been wating for?
I was quoted 2 weeks initially, but its now 2 months. I've called to check on progress, and have been quoted a further 2 weeks. I will be calling again after this period is up.
I'm not too frustrated at present, should I be? I'm unsure what is a reasonable time to wait for this sort of product as it's my first time purchasing custom pipework.
2 months! erm ya i would be unhappy with that! they should at least slash the price a bit, or give you some kind of freebie for your patience!
Stretchy, have you budgeted for one piece valves?
The MoffMeister
05-06-2007, 20:31
one piece valves? enlighten me stu? just in case lol
phoned up bill about exhaust manifold £1100 plus vat near enough shit myself...
smoothuk
05-06-2007, 20:42
one piece valves? enlighten me stu? just in case lol
phoned up bill about exhaust manifold £1100 plus vat near enough shit myself...
Ouchhhhhhhh:-o
The MoffMeister
05-06-2007, 20:54
Ouchhhhhhhh:-o
thats what i thought surely some cheaper?? and a DP is like 395 which isnt to bad ;)
One peice valves helps avoid what you had at Snetterton, we dont want that again do we :no:
The MoffMeister
05-06-2007, 21:11
o i know what you mean yeah they will be the internals will be last will get a map (when i find one) and hold back on it until there done just getting bits and piece's done first!!
ibizacupra
06-06-2007, 08:33
one piece valves? enlighten me stu? just in case lol
phoned up bill about exhaust manifold £1100 plus vat near enough shit myself...
Yep, but you have to pay for quality fabricated parts from builders of Formula One headers.
http://badger-5.com/bin/new-mani/new-mani-2.jpg
http://badger-5.com/bin/new-mani/badger5-ceram-mani-2.jpg
I wish they were cheaper, but having been there and seen their creations its amazing what they can fabricate... Awesome skills they have, but you have to pay to use em.
yes i have to agree, that is the nicest manifold and DP i have seen for our motors!
and yes it is a shame about the price :(
JBS Sales
06-06-2007, 09:35
HTC: Regarding Tig Art the website address is www.tig-art.co.uk, contact number 01246 455002
Apologies for the length of time this has taken, the manifold and DP are currently in production, I will be in touch.
JBS Sales
06-06-2007, 09:55
Hello,
I have seen a few posts about our rapport with customers. If you have any problems please get in contact with me as I am here to help and relay as much information to you as I possibly can.
Mike
smoothuk
06-06-2007, 17:34
That is a fantastic looking piece of kit there.
Rob, just remember, you do get what you pay for, stop doing a James and just order it, you know you will in the end anyway. Your getting a hand built piece of kit, that you know will fit, and do exactly what you want it to do. YOur only going to do it once, so you may as well buy the best, and do it right 1st time mate.
When you start to look at the price of buying indervidual parts, it is easy to see how the cost of stage 3 is normally £4000 plus.
The MoffMeister
06-06-2007, 17:50
Yep, but you have to pay for quality fabricated parts from builders of Formula One headers.
http://badger-5.com/bin/new-mani/new-mani-2.jpg
http://badger-5.com/bin/new-mani/badger5-ceram-mani-2.jpg
I wish they were cheaper, but having been there and seen their creations its amazing what they can fabricate... Awesome skills they have, but you have to pay to use em.
Bill please belive me im not in any way saying it isn't worth it from them pictures it looks awesome i suppose i didnt have a clue how much they cost, but if you must can you quote me happy by PM on how much you would do this for me all in i'd be grateful o and the 3" Dp i'd need to please, plus its my bday in december wouldnt mind a nice early prezzie :cartman:!! cheers bill.
Plus will that sexy metal thing fit?? lol
I know what you mean smooth suppose i just thought jesus, how much but i'd pay that just to see how sexy it is :happy:
That is a fantastic looking piece of kit there.
Rob, just remember, you do get what you pay for, stop doing a James and just order it, you know you will in the end anyway. Your getting a hand built piece of kit, that you know will fit, and do exactly what you want it to do. YOur only going to do it once, so you may as well buy the best, and do it right 1st time mate.
When you start to look at the price of buying indervidual parts, it is easy to see how the cost of stage 3 is normally £4000 plus.
cheeky git... its taken you long enough to become stage 2 matt, and i was fully stage 2 with more mods ages ago! :bleh:
The MoffMeister
06-06-2007, 17:57
yeah matt you raving rent boy lol
smoothuk
06-06-2007, 18:10
cheeky git... its taken you long enough to become stage 2 matt, and i was fully stage 2 with more mods ages ago! :bleh:
I wondered how long it would take you to find that..:lol: hehe
Well, im nearly fully st2, Well i will be when my FMIC lands on my door step!
Rob, please dont go off topic in this thread!
The MoffMeister
06-06-2007, 18:14
o im sorry SMOOTH!!! xx
bezzaboy
06-06-2007, 21:54
Good on ya Rob finally gunna get more power no limp for you bud, bin reading though this thread and see stuff regarding the service from jbs. As some of you know I had the atp on my car with my turbo wot a plie of shite!! - may work for some but not for me, so both james and I decided to go with the equal-length manni from jbs. Wot a piece of kit, handle's the heat from the tubby with no probs, which is more than i can say for the atp. As for the service I received from jbs it was top notch, any time I had probs (with the atp) jbs were more than happy to sort this out at a time to suit me, not them. Looking at Bill's equal-length it is a work of art, but as Bill said they do cost alot of dosh. But if you don't go for that one Rob then jbs should be your next port of call as the're are spot on in my opinion.
The MoffMeister
06-06-2007, 22:05
cheers bezza sent jbs a message to see how much they would cost and what he can do for me, thanx for the advice appreciated, i suppose each one has their own opinions so will try and see what i get from them.
HTC: Regarding Tig Art the website address is www.tig-art.co.uk, contact number 01246 455002
Apologies for the length of time this has taken, the manifold and DP are currently in production, I will be in touch.
Thanks for posting. Like I say, I'm not upset, as I know I'm getting a good product for a good price.
I am, however, itching to get my project fully underway :)
ibizacupra
07-06-2007, 08:26
Bill please belive me im not in any way saying it isn't worth it from them pictures it looks awesome i suppose i didnt have a clue how much they cost, but if you must can you quote me happy by PM on how much you would do this for me all in i'd be grateful o and the 3" Dp i'd need to please, plus its my bday in december wouldnt mind a nice early prezzie :cartman:!! cheers bill.
Plus will that sexy metal thing fit?? lol
I know what you mean smooth suppose i just thought jesus, how much but i'd pay that just to see how sexy it is :happy:
The price of the thing is no secret. its £1100+vat and DP is £375+vat - Ceramic coating is £220+vat for mani and £85+vat for DP as shown.
also available in Inconel which is what I am looking at currently for the further evolution of ickle ibiza. Externally gated T3/T4 flanged, possibly divided also.
There is the chance of the ceramic coated one (used for a short while) becoming available along with turbo etc, as the unfortunate owner running this on his mk4 golf, has had an accident and may be breaking whats left. I'll post in Badger section as and when its confirmed available or not.
The MoffMeister
10-06-2007, 13:21
just wondered guys i have been offered some "Scat conrods which are good for 600bhp if you are interested. They are brand new and are surplus to requirements, 144mm in length and have a 20mm small end pin" and also
"Also if you are interested i have a full set of brand new Supatech valves too. Inconel/black nitrided. (look on jabba's website for full spec). £250.00"
would these fit as the bloke had them for his lcr??
ibizacupra
10-06-2007, 16:21
Jabba's price is Inconel / Nitrided Valves
Sold as a complete set of 20 valves……
Exhaust Valve Material (set of 8):
INCONEL 751 Nickel Bas ...
£528.75 inc VAT
£250 is good price - these new but used yea?
The MoffMeister
10-06-2007, 16:55
no all new bill according to him i juat want to know if they fit before i buy them as he has an lcr and me lc just making sure they are the rigth ones is all?
ibizacupra
10-06-2007, 21:37
same
Who offered you those and what are the price for the scat rods?
The MoffMeister
11-06-2007, 06:44
not saying phil really as im going to be getting them, sorry
ok cheers bill if there the same for LC and LCR i'll grab them, cheers again bill
seeing as the valves will then fit i presume the rods will to if i buy the correct pistons?
The MoffMeister
11-06-2007, 17:39
right all checked up on and will fit, all i have to do is buy 20mm pin sized pistons instead so now on the look out for them to.
now i've bought them phil, i paid £250 for the scad rods and £250 for the full set of valves, pick them up shortly hopefully lol
Anyone got pistons cheap to lol
also how much torque you reckon i'd be looking at for this set up? looking for clutch??
Get the scat rods measured before you fit. Strength is fine, but I've heard the gudeon pin fitment tollerance can vary with that brand.
right all checked up on and will fit, all i have to do is buy 20mm pin sized pistons instead so now on the look out for them to.
now i've bought them phil, i paid £250 for the scad rods and £250 for the full set of valves, pick them up shortly hopefully lol
Anyone got pistons cheap to lol
also how much torque you reckon i'd be looking at for this set up? looking for clutch??
you dont need to buy any pistons! use your current ones with your new scat 20mm rods! just get new piston rings.
The MoffMeister
12-06-2007, 17:30
you reckon that'll be strong enough mate, not worth doing??
Get some Integrated Engineering rods made for 19mm pistons. Then sell your scats on ebay or other. No need to swap pistons then.
http://www.20squared.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=43
i was assuming that you have 20mm WP pistons at the moment. so i would no bother with buying any other forged pistons as yours are fine for way over 400BHP and more.
to keep costs low i would deffo sell the scat 20mm rods for some 19mm IE rods and use your current pistons with these.
just make sure you def have either 19mm or 20mm WP before you choose.
on the other hand some pistons will cost around £320 posted from the states or around 420ish in the UK this guy quoted me well http://www.cambridgemotorsport.com/contact.cfm. but i got them direct from the states in the end as it was a fair bit cheaper.
hope this helps
Got my scat rods delivered for 200 quid. Pistons from qedpower.com are about 50-75 quid more i think.
yah http://www.qedpower.com/ is good
I actually got my rods from Boostfactory tho. But if i was goin rods and pistons both would be from QED.
The MoffMeister
13-06-2007, 17:46
At mooment i have no pistons only have rod's and valves they were so cheap i thought why the hell not, they are 20mm pin size, and i know mine are 19mm, but as i thought i was buying pistons i didnt think this would be a problem, but what to do what to do??
cheers guys something to think about then, may sell them and buy 19s and keep original rods...
ibizacupra
13-06-2007, 23:11
Get some Integrated Engineering rods made for 19mm pistons. Then sell your scats on ebay or other. No need to swap pistons then.
http://www.20squared.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=43
why would you want to run a smaller pin?
why would you want to run a smaller pin?
if his current pistons are 19mm WP, then i would just throw those rods in if he isnt increasing the displacement.
though as he bought 20mm WP scat rods i was assuming he currently has 20mm wp pistons and advised to keep the stock pistons and run those rods.
like wise if he has 19mm wp pistons
The MoffMeister
14-06-2007, 17:51
well im lost all i know was that i could buy 20mm pins on new pistons, and they'd still fit in the car as im not increasing displacement, and the money i saved on the valves and rod's i may as well change them to.
Bonus, didnt realise when i was buying the valves that there both inlet and exhaust , bloody wicked, so on to pistons now, i think but still stuck..
O and turbo's only bloody gone and turned up on my door step hasnt it....
double wicked...
would anyone recommend in changing the waistgate to an uprated one ie forge??
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i37/stretch79/DSC00142.jpg
http://i68.photobucket.com/albums/i37/stretch79/DSC00141.jpg
why would you want to run a smaller pin?
For his power goals, either size should be okay. Just thinking of his budget.
For his power goals, either size should be okay. Just thinking of his budget.
yep, 350bhp will be fine on the 19mm WP IE rod.
a fair few are using them.
well im lost all i know was that i could buy 20mm pins on new pistons, and they'd still fit in the car as im not increasing displacement, and the money i saved on the valves and rod's i may as well change them to.
Bonus, didnt realise when i was buying the valves that there both inlet and exhaust , bloody wicked, so on to pistons now, i think but still stuck..
Rob I think the deciding factor for you is the mileage on your car. If it is low mileage I would not bother changing the pistons or rings as they will have very very little wear.
On my 40,000 mile lcr there is virtually no wear on the bores didnt ever have to scrape the wear ridge to get the pistons out! The bores looked in good shape with some slight polishing on of the thrust face but this was expected.
I just changed the big end bearings, rods, circlips and droped the piston asembly back in. DONT CLEAN the bores and remember to stager the rings back up and you should be fine.
ibizacupra
15-06-2007, 15:36
if his current pistons are 19mm WP, then i would just throw those rods in if he isnt increasing the displacement.
though as he bought 20mm WP scat rods i was assuming he currently has 20mm wp pistons and advised to keep the stock pistons and run those rods.
like wise if he has 19mm wp pistons
yes but the point it he has scat now, why sell em?
no matter
so he can save the money instead of splashing out for pistons, its a bit more hassle but a way of saving a fair bit of money.
i also advised the JE stock pistons from a cheap dealer in the UK if he would like to just go ahead and get some 20mm WP pistons.
myk3, what kind of power you think you'd have if you had new rods and fmic? Would the map be changed a bit?
myk3, what kind of power you think you'd have if you had new rods and fmic? Would the map be changed a bit?
sorry, bit confused what you are asking, i have had all my internals done.
and i have a eurojet FMIC.
i am in the process of fitting a proper GT2871r turbo, to make around 370bhp which will spool a fair bit quicker than my current eliminator.
Ahhhh, i thought the figures i've seen for your car was on smic and standard internals. WHat did you pull with the eliminator and smic etc..?
The MoffMeister
15-06-2007, 19:15
so what is my turbo above then, surely GT2871R?? bloody hope so..
Yumann my engine has about 10k or so on the clock so as you say it may be fine, but for peace of mind i will prob get pistons from bill, as i've already had a piston go into my valve wasnt funny i tell ya.. lol mind you warranty is great..
as for the big end bearings are these all standard or can you uprate them to?
Any help on the turbo guys??
Yumann my engine has about 10k or so on the clock so as you say it may be fine, but for peace of mind i will prob get pistons from bill, as i've already had a piston go into my valve wasnt funny i tell ya.. lol mind you warranty is great..
as for the big end bearings are these all standard or can you uprate them to?
LOL 10k your kidding, it hasnt even lossened yet!!! "may be fine" It will be fine mate ;). If it was me I would not touch them as they will be just coming into there peak now.
Then again new pistons & rings would only need a very light hone easy enough done.
How did your last piston go???
Big end bearings will depend on what rod you use 19mm and 20mm use different bearings.
Yes you can uprate them, I have heavy duty bearings in mine made by glacier expensive but will be worth it in the long run.
Any help on the turbo guys??
There should be a p/n on the metal plate. The go to garret website and cross reference.
The MoffMeister
16-06-2007, 09:24
cheers yumann, i was at snetterton doing trackday and came round bend on the esse's i think changed down gear whilst car bumping up and down all of a sudden it seems to run on 3, well got it looked at by seat valve had hit a piston so put nice big hole in it and loads of scoring on the block, so complete new engine only 52 plate car i know with a 6 month old engine lol
well i have been offered some 81mm je pistons for £175 which are used but in great nick and i can phone vagtech to confirm, plus there 20mm pin so looks like i'll be sorted, any link to these big ends to yumann
mike my turbo is a gt2871r have checked against garrett website, so what is yours then if its different to mine?
cheers again
well i have been offered some 81mm je pistons for £175 which are used but in great nick and i can phone vagtech to confirm, plus there 20mm pin so looks like i'll be sorted, any link to these big ends to yumann
No website mate lucky the bearing makers are local to me they can make anything I want or get anything I want as long as I have the p/n. They are the people who supply the so call big bearings bearing manufacturers. Came across the by pure change,
moff, sorry mate i thought i refered you too a gt28rs, not that it matters, so we both ahave the same turbo then.
what is the P/N on the metal plate on the CHRA on your turbo just out of interest?
i cant find mine on garretts website what so ever!?
The MoffMeister
16-06-2007, 16:03
yeah i have found it on there mate, spoke to my mechanic fitting the turbo told him about what you said and he hasnt heard of that before he said its best emailing garrett to find out about that.
mine is 743347-0002
look here http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbobygarrett/products/catalog.html
and mine was on there so im happy, i was going to do gt28rs but thought against it so in same boat as you, my mechanic reckons i could push 370 or so, come on lol
cheers yumann