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Anyone gone for the Revo treatment yet? I am seriously thinking about it. I live and work in Slough, but was born and bred in Doncaster. This means I usually go home to gods own County by going up the M40 to junction 11 and then cross country to the M1, using the A361 to Daventry, coincidentally where Revo are based. Must be an omen. Next trip home within a month. My alternative is to wait to see if Fontain start to offer it as they are 2 miles up the road from home in Slough. Wouldn't mind meeting the Revo guys tho as so many of you (in my case especially Cupramax) have so much good to say about them.
There doesn't seem to be any performance figures available yet but as Revo are offering free mods to the APR'd cars, I assume they will be on the same lines. The security lock on the ECU also seems to be too good to turn down (if its available yet).
:devil: More pasty.
ibizacupra
17-01-2003, 22:28
I drove their REVO Ibiza today and it went well. Very well.
Performance of this is between 217-222bhp.
regards
Bill
was that an Ibiza R with an Advanced user option? Or stock performance power from a revo'd Ibiza R?
Sorry not clued up on what a Ibiza R has as standard. still learning.
I would imagine Forge IC, maybe a Intake pipe & a nice bit of revo software
Mark
Even with my poor mechanical understanding of cars, thats been fairly modified! Mines a standard Leon Cupra ATM I think its only a matter of time before I get there, if Fontain offered it now, I would probably be knocking on their door in the morning. The no visible signs of change being a major tilt in favour of me getting my car 'sorted'.
:)
Am I missing something on the ECU lock thing? I thought it just stopped you starting the car even if you had the key - if the thief cant get the key he cant drive off anyway? You are hardly going to activate the thing every time you leave the car (it is done by plugging a gadget into the diag socket) as it seems too much hassle.
Myself and a friend from work, (both with 02 Leon Cupra’s) will be going to Revo at the end of March/April when the company bonuses are paid. :D
Shock_Xe
18-01-2003, 09:17
Originally posted by MarkP
I would imagine Forge IC, maybe a Intake pipe & a nice bit of revo software
Mark
I drove few months back oit had Forge IC, Jetex Xorst, Intake pipe, Panel filter and software (APR then) but same power figures
Has the security lock function on the ECU been given any sort of Thatcham approval?
last I heard (a month ago) they were still waiting on thatcham - richard was saying something about them wanting 2 sps fobs (like a backup in case one fails), but that seems less secure than just having one!?
does revo just plug in and play with a laptop to alter the ECU, or do they add ther own chip/ECU?
wot r the gains?:cheers:
Originally posted by whitie
wot r the gains?:cheers:
Would also be very interested in the figures, can’t see any listed on their site yet
ibizacupra
20-01-2003, 08:34
Originally posted by bazzer
Would also be very interested in the figures, can’t see any listed on their site yet
The gains would be no less than APR and in many circumstances a little higher.
If running the SPS3 you get a range of boost and ignition advance adjustment open to you, so where Optimax programs were'nt previously available, this would give you more scope on ignition for example to wind it up whilst remaining within factory safe limits. (protect the engine type limits)
regards
Bill
ibizacupra
20-01-2003, 08:35
Originally posted by whitie
does revo just plug in and play with a laptop to alter the ECU, or do they add ther own chip/ECU?
wot r the gains?:cheers:
No chips to fit.
Serial Programming via the OBDII port via their software system.
Invisible and very Stealthy.
Bill
wen was this port installed, i.e. wich VAG models,or if it makes it easier,from wot year on.
e.g. would my T reg polo mk4 hav 1,or would i hav to graft 1 in with a loom?:cheers:
whitie - my 1994M Ibiza has one
it's just on the LHS of the drop down shelf in front of the fuses
Jimmyboy
20-01-2003, 16:24
FAO Whitie
Sorry to go off the subject but I like the animation at the bottom of your posts!!
PS Admittedly it did make the page take about 5 times longer to load but worth the wait!
Jimmyboy
20-01-2003, 16:47
It was good though!!!
Originally posted by MarkP
whitie - my 1994M Ibiza has one
it's just on the LHS of the drop down shelf in front of the fuses
LHS?????iv got a row of fuses on the rite, in the drivers side glove box:confused: is this the same?cos iv got an airbag on the left wer the air bag is, and thers a small shelf under than...or r we talkin lower?
Originally posted by Jimmyboy
It was good though!!!
cheers, i nicked it of a polo site....suite my polo quite well, just hope i can fit this 1.8t lump in it now:D
whoops,iv made a 2nd page now:redface:
I got my Ibiza Cupra (02) "Revo'd" on the 3rd January. I would like to say I could not be more pleased with the results. Anyone considering the Revo option should GO GET IT!!! If you have any doubts get the trial... I would be Very surprised if you got out of Daventry without going back to pay for the Full version.
Look Revo would not offer the 2hour free trial if they did not think it would knock your socks off.
I am getting the SPS3 at the end of this week when they have them in.
All in all it has made a fantastic, fun & realitively fast car into something of a beast - make sure your boots are up to it and switch that TCS off!!!!
Laura
Just out of intrest where can you get this trial software... anywhere around Surrey?!?!?
how is the SPS3 operated, in fact how are all of the functions opersted by the driver?
Have you been to the Forge motorsport site??? Go there and look at the Forge/Revo bit it shows you there how it works. All you have to do is pull the panel under the Steering column out and locate the plug... Plug it in to the setting you choose on the SPS3 and the it bleeps and Bobs your aunties live in lover!
Don't quote me but i think Fontane Audi in Iver in Slough are doing Revo stuff... Might be worth a call.
Laura
peeps keep askin me if iv been on the revo site.....and yes i hav, but i must b missin alot of info on it:redface:
simon_mint_boy
20-01-2003, 18:06
hello
im being thick but whats the revo site address?
ive searched for it but just keep getting psion revo stuff.
ive got the cash for the chip £500 but im in two minds of either jabbasport or revo. I live in middlesbrough so either is bloody miles away. jabba is in peterborough i think not sure where revo is though.
any help.
cheers simon:saber:
revo is just south of coventry, in daventry...i think
and ther is a link at the begining of this thread or 1 similar i think
Revo's site is... http://www.revotechnik.com/
You have to click on the letters at the top left of the page when you get to the home page... took me a couple of minutes to work that out too!
I would also try the Forge site: http://www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/ and go to the Revo link. It explains loads of the questions people are asking.
If you are troubled by the length of the drive... when you get back in the car after you have been "Revo'd" you will wish all the way home the journey was longer!!!
Laura
Apols for the quality photo - but you'll get the idea
it was dark out & couldn't focus!
Originally posted by whitie
LHS?????iv got a row of fuses on the rite, in the drivers side glove box:confused: is this the same?cos iv got an airbag on the left wer the air bag is, and thers a small shelf under than...or r we talkin lower?
thats great, shame my car is 170 miles away at home:eek:
but il cheak it out wen i go home.
with VAG cars, is it possible to swap ECUs between different cars, as long as it matches the engine?
wil i b able to just plug it in wen i transplant the 1.8t into a polo?
plssss say yes:D
really cant b arsed playing with looms:(
Shock_Xe
20-01-2003, 21:02
Originally posted by Ozy
I got my Ibiza Cupra (02) "Revo'd" on the 3rd January. I would like to say I could not be more pleased with the results. Anyone considering the Revo option should GO GET IT!!! If you have any doubts get the trial... I would be Very surprised if you got out of Daventry without going back to pay for the Full version.
Look Revo would not offer the 2hour free trial if they did not think it would knock your socks off.
I am getting the SPS3 at the end of this week when they have them in.
All in all it has made a fantastic, fun & realitively fast car into something of a beast - make sure your boots are up to it and switch that TCS off!!!!
Laura
How much extra does SPS3 cost??? To what extent are boost pressures able to be changed??
Shock_Xe
20-01-2003, 21:13
aaahhhh, k thx, was hoping it could go past 1 bar! Any1 asked what u would get if ya upgrade from APR to Revo?? i.e. would proggie still be switchable through Cruise rather than data port and would u get sps 3 with it???
SPS3 costs £249.00 +vat and it has the most control (apart from the Expert tuning) it allows 18 different settings. ( on low boost and 9 on high boost - all 18 are within the 'Safe' perameters of the engine and turbo of the car.
You get the 'Cut off' anti theft also with the SPS3. As I was told when I got the Revo there are another 9 settings to play with when I get SPS3 - and I am a little scared of the next 9 - believe me!!
I think there is low boost 0-9, 9 is where mine is at the moment and I really got the power boost at that. There is 0-9 on the High boost also... (mine is at 0 there) - so really only another 8 settings - i think Maybe one of the Revo guys can help us out here.
I want to know where i can get mine 4wd - just for a laugh to see what it can do!!!
Laura
How long does it take to switch programs and is it possible to do it on the move? Or would this involve needing another pair of hands?:cheers:
thats wot i was wondering, cos ud wana change the boost while driving
According to the REVO website SPS 1+3 = £499 + VAT. Then it gives another price for SPS 3 = £249 + VAT.
So if I want switchable boost control (including the anti-theft facility) is it going to cost me £499 + VAT or £748 + VAT?
I'm so confused my brain hurts can somebody help?:cheers:
LEO LION R
21-01-2003, 15:17
I've asked the same thing on another thread, and would like to have believed from the way the web site shows it to be just 499+VAT, however others recon its 499 + 249 + VAT (as SPS items are accessories) so £880 for the full buna :(
No one from Revo has confirmed this yet :confused:
:cheers:
Do the REVO guys still read these threads? I know they must be well busy but their website could do with being a bit more detailed. A list of dealers would help for a start(AwesomeGTi in the North-west but what about elsewhere)and also some powerplots. I'm getting my car done as soon as I have some spare cash but would want more info first.:cheers:
Originally posted by LEO LION R
I've asked the same thing on another thread, and would like to have believed from the way the web site shows it to be just 499+VAT, however others recon its 499 + 249 + VAT (as SPS items are accessories) so £880 for the full buna :(
No one from Revo has confirmed this yet :confused:
:cheers:
Sounds about right by my calcs too. IT's a heck of a lot of money for a non-engine-specific chip upgrade - even if it is quite clever in the way it's done... Why so much REVO? I can understand them pricing it a little above the rest but er.. 900quid??
simon_mint_boy
21-01-2003, 17:07
hello
I spoke to forge motorsport/revo today
seems there in parnership as near as dammit.
basic pack is £499
this is done throught the serail port so no taking apart ecu and the suchlike.
sps 1 is the an extra £149 and allows two modes boost programme or standard, this is done by plugging a little gizmo into the serial port.
sps 2 is the same but also the added security feature of immobilising the car, again using the little gizmo.
sps 3 is the same but + 9 programmes to alter boost for say different petrol, track day, quarter mile etc, this is either £349 or £449. very good but a lot in one go for all the stuff.
all these prices are + the vat so account for that.
the basic pack on a leon should produce 230-235bhp. not totally confirmed yet.
at the moment they are working on the encryption to stop people ripping off what they have.
they reckon early feb to get people booked in.
im going for it.
later simon.
check out the group buy post:saber:
Have spoken to richard@revo today, they were having access problems with bt, but all should be sorted (at least temporarily)
I have been running the "new" (revo) program for a while and it is definately better than the stage1 program from APR.
It has been completely re-mapped and on 3 test runs @ stealth averaged a 217BHP.
The car now accelerates a lot quicker than it did before, less sedate than the APR program, it also pulls a lot better top end than it did, i can now hit 6500RPM with no noticeable loss in power (maybe its just fun;)
Remember the surging and dip in power moments people of all re-maps have reported in the past?
This too has now been fixed by Revo and i can state i have not had it happen once since the new program was installed.
All in all the new program is better in everyway, throttle seems more responsive (less "play" in the pedal) and the go is now fantastic.
Revo staff are on the forums as much as they can and they have said that now their internet access is fixed they will be online soon to answer the various questions in the recent posts.
Revo and Forge have recently developed a new relationship whereby Forge will market and sell all Revo products and the cross over of engineering expertise should prove useful in all aspects of development for both companies.
Hope this helps
Saul
perhaps because of the R&D costs of creating, testing & developing a revolutionary technique.
Originally posted by dangel
Sounds about right by my calcs too. IT's a heck of a lot of money for a non-engine-specific chip upgrade - even if it is quite clever in the way it's done... Why so much REVO? I can understand them pricing it a little above the rest but er.. 900quid??
Originally posted by Saul
The car now accelerates a lot quicker than it did before, less sedate than the APR program, it also pulls a lot better top end than it did, i can now hit 6500RPM with no noticeable loss in power (maybe its just fun;)
Saul you git. I've been quietly concidering the Revo upgrade. I think it's credit card time for old Djawol. :0
:cheers:
Andy
andy you gotta stop by mine on the way back
coffee's upstairs, leave the engine running
Get it done andy, now :D
sales@revotechnik.com just in case :p
Originally posted by Saul
I have been running the "new" (revo) program for a while and it is definately better than the stage1 program from APR.
It has been completely re-mapped and on 3 test runs @ stealth averaged a 217BHP.
Saul,
Is that runing with sps 1 , 2 or 3 ?
Sounds like a good upgrade especily if its a freebie form the old APR code. :rockon:
Regards
Shock_Xe
21-01-2003, 20:42
Revo upgrade seems cool, was it from stealth????? Also is it still switchable from cruise stalk???
Is there no chance of bulk purchasing power coming into play on the price front? I mean there seems to be quite a few wanting REVO'd but are unsure about the price, APR were giving 25% off a month ago and they would still be making a profit, can we not arrange for everybody to go to REVO on one day, have a little guided tour, a spot of lunch, get the cars fettled and go our seperate ways proclaiming the gospel of REVO to the non-believers with a few extra quid in our pockets.;)
Everyones a winner!
John, im not running a specific "SPS" yet, apart from the cruise.
Shock, cruise programs are still switchable yes :)
Wasnt done at stealth no. That was their ibiza.
Originally posted by MARRA
Is there no chance of bulk purchasing power coming into play on the price front? I mean there seems to be quite a few wanting REVO'd but are unsure about the price, APR were giving 25% off a month ago and they would still be making a profit, can we not arrange for everybody to go to REVO on one day, have a little guided tour, a spot of lunch, get the cars fettled and go our seperate ways proclaiming the gospel of REVO to the non-believers with a few extra quid in our pockets.;)
Everyones a winner!
Yup, sounds good - the sticking point for me is price, otherwise i'd have it done 2morrow :)
LEO LION R
22-01-2003, 10:17
Yup, sounds good - the sticking point for me is price, otherwise i'd have it done 2morrow
SHNAAP :(
ibizacupra
22-01-2003, 10:19
Originally posted by MARRA
Do the REVO guys still read these threads? I know they must be well busy but their website could do with being a bit more detailed. A list of dealers would help for a start(AwesomeGTi in the North-west but what about elsewhere)and also some powerplots. I'm getting my car done as soon as I have some spare cash but would want more info first.:cheers:
Don't forget you also have their FREE 2hour demo option...
Exercise it to your hearts content... Dyno it too, anythings possible.
Try before you buy is a sweet feature.
Bill
LEO LION R
22-01-2003, 10:23
By the sounds of it you wont be able to get that, before its fully encrypted in early Feb.
If you read back this forum sounds like an old womans coffee morning!!!
Bottom line is... Either you want it or you don't. All I can say is you ain't gonna get anymore fun out of your car for the amount of Quids involved in buying Revo... I have had mine for 3 weeks and if it was double the price I STILL would have brought it.
Laura
ibizacupra
22-01-2003, 13:27
Here's a question for you peeps then.
How many of you would want an SPS1? do you want to switch stuff back to stock?
How many would want to run in stock mode after having chipped mode?
Just interested..
I'll post a poll
regards
Bill
for savin on petrol, id b tempted to hav the SPS1
The basic (SPS1)would do for me but I would like the option of being able to return the car to stock when taking it back to the dealer. Doing this by gizmo wouldn't work if it had to be left in the diagnostic port because the dealer would be able to find it. I would prefer the option of SPS1 only working with the gizmo in, and the car being stock without it. How about it, REVO???
Denis
Pete_slim
22-01-2003, 15:23
Originally posted by whitie
how is the SPS3 operated, in fact how are all of the functions opersted by the driver?
Has this question been answered or have I missed it??? Anybody with a difinitive answer??... have posted this question in the thread started by Bill.
How do you switch programs?
I'm just not sure about the idea of having to plug into the diag port every time you want to change settings.
:cheers:
I would only use stock when it was going into have a service!
I would rather have it in 3 stages….
210 for going to the dealer
240ish for everyday driving
265ish for chasing motorbikes and track / 1/4mile runs
This is why I am going down the Jabbasport route as it has a variable boost knob!
The thing that sells it for me at Revo is that it is undetectable.
For those who have a switch able chip. How does it run as soon as you swap programs?
I have heard they can be a little lumpy for 5-10 minutes…
You choose setting from 0-9 on low boost or 0-9 on high boost(9 on low boost = 0 on high boost)plug the SPS3 into the port and it takes a couple of seconds, bleeps and the chip has swapped settings. You don't have to leave the SPS in the port.
It is undetectable by ANYONE when it is switched off. Don't worry about your dealer being able to Flash the chip back to factory setting either as if they try, the chip will tell them it has reverted when it hasn't.
Ozy
Can you confirm any prices because there is alot of confusion between members what you actually get for your money. Personally I am getting the fully adjustable program like yourself. Does this include the anti-theft facility?
Many thanks:cheers:
Sorry, I've just looked back over the thread and you've already told us the price of SPS3 and whether is has anti-theft.
I'm just a thick Cumbrian but I'm not radioactive, we just don't have to put as many lights on at night.:D
Pete_slim
22-01-2003, 16:38
Originally posted by MARRA
I'm just a thick Cumbrian but I'm not radioactive, we just don't have to put as many lights on at night.:D
PMSL :rotfl:
Can sympathise & know what you mean as my parents live near to Heysham..
Have been sea fishing in the Irish sea & Morecambe bay... (I dont like fish anymore):sick:
At least Heysham is abit closer to civilisation but you're right about the seafood.;)
Shock_Xe
22-01-2003, 22:06
I like my switchable chip but to be honest its only been in standard mode when it went to dealer. Now warranty is up it wont be. I thought that i would use standard mode to goto work etc etc but it has been on chipped mode since i had it done. I just think its slow as shit when its in standard and flip it back straight away and start :D :D
RichardBW
22-01-2003, 22:18
Yes we are still here and noting all the questions you have.
We are very busy at the moment setting up dealers, continuous tuning, gathering website info, etc, etc.(look at the time of my post) :eyepop:
I will post some answers tomorrow when back at the office.
Top man, alot of us are abit confused as you may have guessed:cheers:
the sps gizmo is only used to change between programmes - it isnt in there all the time. So if you are taking it into the dealer, use the sps to switch to stock programme then remove it and they will be non the wiser :)
Cupramax
23-01-2003, 09:18
Originally posted by Darren
For those who have a switch able chip. How does it run as soon as you swap programs?
I have heard they can be a little lumpy for 5-10 minutes…
Not true. To be honest you wouldn't know its been switched apart from the obvious drop or increase in performance.
Quick question for Richard, Have you created new code for the Revo mappings for Leon Cupra R's or just ported what you took from mine? If so have you rolling roaded any of them? Just interested if you've got any more power out of them...
Originally posted by Cupramax
interested if you've got any more power out of them...
You still want more! :eek:
Cupramax
23-01-2003, 14:39
Originally posted by bazzer
You still want more! :eek:
Not really (I lie :D), I was just wondering as mine had done so few miles when APR had it. I was interested what a well run in one would put out on the rollers....
Originally posted by MarkP
andy you gotta stop by mine on the way back
coffee's upstairs, leave the engine running
LMAO, I've seen you drive remember! ;)
:cheers:
Andy
ibizacupra
23-01-2003, 21:06
Here's a picture of the options of SPS for you.
Hope it helps explain things...
http://www.badger5.demon.co.uk/bin/SPS-bits-small.jpg
http://www.badger5.demon.co.uk/bin/SPS-bits-small.jpg
and
http://www.badger5.demon.co.uk/bin/SPS3-small.jpg
http://www.badger5.demon.co.uk/bin/SPS3-small.jpg
regards
Bill
Cupramax
23-01-2003, 21:17
heheeeeheee,... I feel a trip to Daventry coming on :D
Is it fact that AwesomeGTI is the north-west agent?
When is the website being updated with powerplots etc.
It's a bad crack when we have to rely on other members for information?:confused:
ibizacupra
23-01-2003, 22:03
Originally posted by MARRA
Is it fact that AwesomeGTI is the north-west agent?
When is the website being updated with powerplots etc.
It's a bad crack when we have to rely on other members for information?:confused:
Please be patient..
REVO are busy as a busy thing on a busy day... This is a new business launch, new product launch, dealer launch all at the same time... Its a lorro lorra work in a short space of time. (Cilla stlyee :D)
Very very close now however.
I posted the pictures on behalf of REVO_Mark not just as a member of here ;)
Its close guys.
regards
Bill
Cupramax
23-01-2003, 22:07
Do I detect a Bill/Revo partnership here?
I apologise, it's just that I'm very excited about all this and want it done but I also want all the info. first. It's like being a kid at christmas.:D
Was there any indication of when the website may be complete?:cheers:
Revo Mark
23-01-2003, 22:35
Hi Marra
Don't apologise, typically we are normally active on here. However of late we have been very busy as Bill stated. We are a little delayed due to some software changes in our dealer software and how the dealer installs it. This is not a case of the software for the car but how our dealers opperate. We have been a little let down with the people who are doing our 'e' commerce site so we are having to make provisions to carry everything out manually at the moment. We are setting up a fully automated 24/7 system for our dealers which as taken a some time to do and must admit feels more like 25/8:) , however everything is virtually ready to go. With regard to dyno graphs and figures, most of these will be up by the end of the month with revised website.Hopefully we will be back up to speed with the business and customer service we are renown for.
Best regards
PS: Thanks Bill for putting up the pics.
ibizacupra
23-01-2003, 22:37
Where they might not have time to post here at the mo, they are listening to inputs they pick up on, and that includes inputs from here, other active forums and from their dealers etc..
It is exciting stuff tho.. I agree with that.
Patience is'nt one of my storng points either on things I "must have", but good things come to those who wait - eh? :)
<EDIT>
Ah... I see you are putting in another 25/8 then Mark.. :)
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regards
Bill
FAO. Bill,
Is that a REVO "hard-core driving music" cd next to the dealers SPP cable. Pump up the volume, pump up the power. (It's a winner,honest).:D :cheers:
Originally posted by Ozy
If you read back this forum sounds like an old womans coffee morning!!!
Bottom line is... Either you want it or you don't. All I can say is you ain't gonna get anymore fun out of your car for the amount of Quids involved in buying Revo... I have had mine for 3 weeks and if it was double the price I STILL would have brought it.
Laura
Bottom line is, some of us are married and want to stay that way ;) 500quid is easier in that respect. As for double the price - don't talk saft ;)
LMAO - I am sorry if I upset anyone - I was only Playing!
I am married also and my husband came with me to REVO - maybe you could take your wife with you she may like the experience!!!
Maybe I would pay double now I know what I have got for my money. Try it and you will understand my concept trust me.
Laura
ibizacupra
24-01-2003, 10:47
2 hour demo software is Free remember.
Worth a crack to see what the increase in performance is... in your own car, on your roads etc...
No obligation.
Nice sweet feature I think.
Wish this was out when I first got my "other" conversion done way back when.. Heinsight eh?
Bill
Originally posted by Ozy
LMAO - I am sorry if I upset anyone - I was only Playing!
I am married also and my husband came with me to REVO - maybe you could take your wife with you she may like the experience!!!
Maybe I would pay double now I know what I have got for my money. Try it and you will understand my concept trust me.
Laura
I'm going to take my wife with me. Also my two kids, my mortgage and my credit card bills to enjoy the experience !!!:p
Only kidding I'm getting it done as soon as all the info. is made public. I think people are just in two minds because they don't know exactly what they will get for their hard earned cash. (or in my case just cash):cheers:
Originally posted by Ozy
LMAO - I am sorry if I upset anyone - I was only Playing!
I am married also and my husband came with me to REVO - maybe you could take your wife with you she may like the experience!!!
Maybe I would pay double now I know what I have got for my money. Try it and you will understand my concept trust me.
Laura
Oh I want it but taking her with me won't help - she's scared of the car with std. settings :eek: Seriously tho, i do think REVO are asking too much for the job, as do others on here reading round. As I've said elsewhere, a chip and a brake upgrade for REVO money kinda appeals more...
On the Cupra R pages they are having a meet on 2nd March in South Mimms then on for luch etc... I am going with my car so anyone wanna take a look/spin with me they are welcome (if it ever gets new coils)
Maybe Revo should come to the meet - maybe do some programming there and then on the day???
Laura
Originally posted by Ozy
On the Cupra R pages they are having a meet on 2nd March in South Mimms then on for luch etc... I am going with my car so anyone wanna take a look/spin with me they are welcome (if it ever gets new coils)
Maybe Revo should come to the meet - maybe do some programming there and then on the day???
Laura
I'll be up for that as i have to drive through S.Mimms most weekends to see my bird...
I currently have an APR chip with cruise and 3 program (1.0 bar, standard and valet modes) and have a couple of questions about the REVO upgrade
1. Are REVO still offering the free upgrade to their software for existing APR customers?
2. If I do upgrade to the REVO software is my 1.0 bar program just overwritten (keeping my standard & valet modes) or do I lose all the original APR programs?
3. If the REVO software just replaces the APR 1.0bar mode can I still switch between the 3 with my cruise control stalk as before
4. Can I buy the SPS3 at a later date and still have full functionality?
Sorry for all the questions but I have heard so many things about REVO and APR and I’m a little confused (doesn’t take much:p) about what is right and wrong!
Any answers would be greatly appreciated, as I really would like the REVO software as I have heard the power is a lot better than the APR program!
:cheers:
Brian
Brian
Originally posted by Miffer
1. Are REVO still offering the free upgrade to their software for existing APR customers?
Miffer, as far as im aware the free upgrade is still available, however it has to be done in daventry, ring REVO to confirm :01327-301-901
Originally posted by Miffer
2. If I do upgrade to the REVO software is my 1.0 bar program just overwritten (keeping my standard & valet modes) or do I lose all the original APR programs?
Im not sure, but i think you will lose the valet program, EPROMS (ECU) is completely re-wriiten.
Originally posted by Miffer
3. If the REVO software just replaces the APR 1.0bar mode can I still switch between the 3 with my cruise control stalk as before
You will (i think) have stock and performance and yes you can still change on the cruise.
Originally posted by Miffer
4. Can I buy the SPS3 at a later date and still have full functionality?
Yes, i would of thought so.
:cheers:
Thanks for the fast and good response Saul.
I am not bothered about the valet mode (only used it a couple of times for a laugh) just as long as the chipped and the standard mode are on there!
I think a call and hopefully a vist to REVO is in order
:cheers:
Brian
Just spoke to Richard at REVO - looks like they will be down for the South Mimms Jaunt, with tools!!!
hellspawn
24-01-2003, 18:43
Wanted a new sig for the gaming forum i'm on, and thought i'd put a bit of free advertising ur way.
chk below :E
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Travelling up from Reading the 2 hour demo, although an excellent service by Revo, is not really an option for me. If I’m travelling that far then it’s with the express desire to get it done.
Won’t be until the end of March/April so basing my choice, (Revo), from the reviews/comments being posted on here. So, the more of you guys that get it done and post reports over the next two months the better. :cheers:
What power will the revo give on a 2001 Cupra Ibiza 20 vt? is there a 98 ron setting on it? Also is it available right now? How long do you have to wait to get it done? :cheers:
simon_mint_boy
26-01-2003, 16:56
The guy at revo/forge i spoke to said on a leon 180bhp standard you should get 230-235 but they are still not 100% on figures.
He said if it puts out less they will tell you before hand not just make up figures to impress people.
230-235 sounds very impressive to me.
later simon:saber:
ibizacupra
26-01-2003, 18:22
Originally posted by Neil82
What power will the revo give on a 2001 Cupra Ibiza 20 vt? is there a 98 ron setting on it? Also is it available right now? How long do you have to wait to get it done? :cheers:
It is available now in non-switchable version or if you wanted an SPS3 you can adjust to suit your choice of fuel grade, and I am told this now runs to race fuels (ie 98 +octane booster type levels - at your own risk of course!)
regards
Bill
Does the Leon Cupra 180/RS Ovtavia have a different turbo/intercooler than a 2001 Ibiza? Because ARP seem to be able to get the RS to about 220 hp with 98 ron mode, why do they not offer the 98 ron mode on the Ibiza?
ibizacupra
26-01-2003, 18:49
Originally posted by Neil82
Does the Leon Cupra 180/RS Ovtavia have a different turbo/intercooler than a 2001 Ibiza? Because ARP seem to be able to get the RS to about 220 hp with 98 ron mode, why do they not offer the 98 ron mode on the Ibiza?
They do.
Read above post.
:)
Bill
So whats the difference? If i fitted a after market FMIC would their advantage for power increases be taken away? (sorry for all the Q's but it will all become clear very soon)
Revo group discount Revo group discount Revo group discount.
C'mon - who's with me? ;) :)
:cheers:
Scott
ibizacupra
26-01-2003, 21:39
Originally posted by Neil82
So whats the difference? If i fitted a after market FMIC would their advantage for power increases be taken away? (sorry for all the Q's but it will all become clear very soon)
More boost and more ignition advance.... as far as I know.
More power than APR previously.
SPS3 offer futher adjustment upward again.
regards
Bill
Originally posted by Syphon
Revo group discount Revo group discount Revo group discount.
C'mon - who's with me? ;) :)
:cheers:
Scott
I'm with you brother!:give5: Like I've said before the best advert for REVO is word of mouth, so lets get some "demos" driven throughout the land. With some extra notes left in the drivers wallets of course.:D
Does anyone know how long the waiting list is to get your car REVO'd?
Probably worth a quick phone call on that one. (to Revo)
Originally posted by Neil82
Does anyone know how long the waiting list is to get your car REVO'd?
Does anyone know if the lowest boost setting on the SPS3 is same as the factory setting or whether you can set it lower for really shi**y weather and for greater fuel savings?:cheers:
Shock_Xe
27-01-2003, 12:24
it goes factory-1bar
Cupramax
27-01-2003, 12:37
Originally posted by simon_mint_boy
The guy at revo/forge i spoke to said on a leon 180bhp standard you should get 230-235 but they are still not 100% on figures.
Would be VERY surprised if its that much out of a standard car seeing as most of the chip companies only get 200-210bhp with Jabba getting a tad more due to mapping directly on the car.
Tony_Essex
27-01-2003, 13:23
Would be VERY surprised if its that much out of a standard car seeing as most of the chip companies only get 200-210bhp with Jabba getting a tad more due to mapping directly on the car.
I agree 230+ seems optomistic, but would have thought that a sensible program would get 215-220 on 98RON fuel.
FAO. REVO,
Please put us out of our misery!:cheers:
Went into Fontain in Slough today. Asked about the Revo service. They are hoping to start it next week. Wahoooooo!
2 hour trial here I come.
hellspawn
30-01-2003, 15:14
Visited Revo this morning to get my car upgraded from the APR stage 1, to the revo program.I awoke to a blanket of snow, and massive white fluffy stuff comming down like nobodys business :(
From the look of the weather, i thought things had gone real pete tong, after getting on the net and checking the roads situation, i decided to brave it.
Because i set off well early, and traffic not been as bad as i expected i arrived way before I should have, theres a burger van on the industrial est that does some nice nosh, good job cause i skipped brekie.
I then parked outside and was about to get me head down for a bit, thinking i had a long wait, when richard pulled up, nice motor ;).He invited me in, even though i was a tad early.We then got my car in the workshop and i left them to it.Nice to meet mark, and some of the team, really sound people, and they could not be more helpful.
Can i just ask that people be patient with revo, i experienced first hand today, just how busy they were.In the time i waited in the office, i don't think any communication device they had stopped ringing or buzzing.
I was greeted with my keys, and richard saying god dam ur car's quick, he asked what boost i was pulling before, i said about 1-1.1, he smiled and said u getting 1.5 now.With a big smile i asked how the car acted now, and giving me my keys he said go play and find out.
On the journey home, it was instantly obivious the car was now producing more torque and power.Comming down the motorway i don't think i dropped below 100mph, I had a proper gale like crosswind hitting me, and the car was still pulling cleanly from 100+.The top end is now so much better.
It really differs from the APR program, I spent well over 2 hours in the car giving it a good thrashing.The road's i normally use for testing, where still pretty bad by me, but i still had just enough grip to asses how things have changed.
The cars very strong now, a lot more than APR prog.On take off i was spinning the wheels in 1st just enough to get it rolling, then into 2nd, the pull in this gear is balistic, just as the revs and boost start building, bang u hit 3000 rpm and 1.5 bar of boost till just over 4000 rpm, it then drops to 1.2 bar to just under 5000 rpm, then tapers off to 0.9 bar as it roll's upto 6000rpm.The speed u pull in that short time is like wow.3rd gear the wheels are still strugling for grip but once ur past 4000 rpm its on the move.I ate 4th gear up pretty quickly, and in no time was in 5th, and moving like a bullet train.
Been in 5th gear and accelerating from 80-110 so much quicker than before.I have also noticed that the hesanticy that i experienced sometimes in the past is gone.The car just accelerates, every time u ask it, this is so much better than the APR prog.
I would really like to get out onto some dry roads, as the conditions atm don't do it justice.But don't worry about the power not been usable in bad weather, just leave TC on, it more than copes with it.Or buy switchable programs, best of both worlds then.
Can honestly say, anyone thinking of getting the 2 hour demo, why bother, just go in and get the program done.I know some like to try before they buy, but u'll just be saving ur self time, as theres no way ur not going to be satisifyed.
Would like to thank the Revo lads again :cheers:
I will definatly in the future put more business there way, and recommend them to anyone.
Go get it poeple what u waiting for :D
1.5 bar in the beeza???!!! :eek: Is that safe??? Didn't reckon the beeza could cope with too much more pressure.
If 1.5bar is right then bring it on! I have APR Stage I and will be upgrading to Revo software soon but I've been hearing lots of conflicting info :
Revo progs are the same as APR
Revo prog puts out 215bhp
Revo will produce 1.2bar.
Revo will produce 1.5bar.
etc...
Think we need someone from Revo to come in hear and clear a few things up (I appreciate they are busy but a bit more info would be nice!!!)
Hellspawn - Any ideas what sort of BHP and LB/FT the revo chip is putting out from the Beeza?
Meeko
ibizacupra
30-01-2003, 20:46
Originally posted by Meeko
1.5 bar in the beeza???!!! :eek: Is that safe??? Didn't reckon the beeza could cope with too much more pressure.
If 1.5bar is right then bring it on! I have APR Stage I and will be upgrading to Revo software soon but I've been hearing lots of conflicting info :
Revo progs are the same as APR
Revo prog puts out 215bhp
Revo will produce 1.2bar.
Revo will produce 1.5bar.
etc...
Think we need someone from Revo to come in hear and clear a few things up (I appreciate they are busy but a bit more info would be nice!!!)
Hellspawn - Any ideas what sort of BHP and LB/FT the revo chip is putting out from the Beeza?
Meeko
Weather depending, REVO are dynoing a std Ibiza 20VT and then upgrading to their REVO software. A real before and after will be available on this sample car.
One things for sure, the REVO Ibiza prog is producing more power than the old APR one (and that was'nt exactly slow either!)
Dynoplots will make it onto their website soon I am told.
regards
Bill
THought you might pop up with some info Bill. CHeers. Guess I'll just have to be patient like the rest of you...
Graeme
PS. I WANT, I WANT, I WANT, I WANT!!! :D
ibizacupra
30-01-2003, 21:36
Originally posted by Meeko
THought you might pop up with some info Bill. CHeers. Guess I'll just have to be patient like the rest of you...
Graeme
PS. I WANT, I WANT, I WANT, I WANT!!! :D
REVO's own demo Ibiza (Richard's car) has been running in this mode for several months, being ragged something rotten by many a wannabie race driver for demo's (sorry Rich... I include myself in that ragging... :p Purely for test purposes of course and in the name of science ;) )
Its been fine, and its a pretty extreme life.
I do recall someone saying they had to work at keeping up with Richard in the REVO'd Ibiza, and the guy saying this was driving an RS4! (;))
It does go pretty well.
regards
Bill
RichardBW
30-01-2003, 21:54
Hellspawn, That was not me you met this morning, I think you saw Mitchell. I am the better looking, somewhat slimmer bloke that came in as you were leaving. I don't have that funny accent either;)
The boost levels and programs are to be finalised tomorrow and we hope to be at a stage to launch all new products for next week if all goes to plan this weekend.
Once again sorry for the lack of response from us at Revo, I think everybody now knows how busy we have been and we will be back on the forum with some info asap.
We still have the email problem with BT so I apologise if any of you have not received a reply to your enquiries.
Originally posted by Revo Richard
We still have the email problem with BT so I apologise if any of you have not received a reply to your enquiries.
Well that answers my problem :D
Emailed Mark and then you when Mark didnt reply, but you hadn't either :)
Now i know why.
hellspawn
30-01-2003, 22:31
Originally posted by Revo Richard
Hellspawn, That was not me you met this morning, I think you saw Mitchell. I am the better looking, somewhat slimmer bloke that came in as you were leaving. I don't have that funny accent either;)
Doh! :redface:
yeh sorry about that, I remember now it was mitchell i saw, With the excitement of driving around for about 3 hours afterwards, i somehow got u mixed up
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ForgeMotorsport
31-01-2003, 08:15
South of the midlands , We have Forge- Revo here , happy to travel for upgrades configured to run with our hardware .
Tel 01452 380999
Forge - Revo (www.forgemotorsport.co.uk/revo)
Shock_Xe
31-01-2003, 11:00
hmmm, just spoke to revo. They said that the software upgrade is free, BUT... Its no longer switchable though the cruise as they take the old chip out and re-prog the standard one again. Therefore not having the switchable option thus having to pay for SPS1 £150 or SPS3 £250. not exactly a freee upgrade if u dont want to loose the switchable option. I think ima have to put this one away as its not really worth an additional £150 for a small increase on what i got.
every one else do this????
I wanted to get converted to the REVO program but assumed that it would still be switchable via the cruise. I like the idea of having my old standard chip put in as it would be undetectable then, but I have got better things to spend my money on at the mo than a SPS1 to switch between programs when I have already got the cruise control to do this.
But then again it is more power :devil:, I might wait until some rolling road figures are out and if its enough increase then sod it and get the upgrade.:D
Shock_Xe
31-01-2003, 11:39
but the power increase seems to be small, 10bhp if lucky. and for a minimum of £150 plus hassle of gettint there and the hassle of using that port thingy to change proggies instead of cruise aint worth it for a "Possible" increase in power.
I was under the impression that they just update the APR chip with their software and bobs your uncle. This is what i was expecting. No more, after all i was expecting it to be free!
Originally posted by Saul
Shock, cruise programs are still switchable yes :)
Not what i was told on the phone
edit:
Originally posted by Saul
You will (i think) have stock and performance and yes you can still change on the cruise.
:cheers:
once again
I must admit Mike I was under the same impression as you. I thought that I would drive down to REVO let them re-flash my APR chip and get some more power? .:confused:
I would like to see some rolling road graphs :confused: because hellspawn says that he is getting 1.5 bar peak and holding 1.2, surely this should give a decent increase in power (i've 210 - 220 mentioned)
I am gutted though, it would have been cool if it was still switchable via the cruise, as you said its easier than using the SPS everytime.
Cheers Brian
Shock_Xe
31-01-2003, 11:58
Any1 want to confirm???
I stand corrected Mike, i was under the same assumption as everyone else. Apologies.
leonvt2001
31-01-2003, 13:39
Originally posted by Miffer
I would like to see some rolling road graphs :confused: because hellspawn says that he is getting 1.5 bar peak and holding 1.2, surely this should give a decent increase in power (i've 210 - 220 mentioned)
Hellspawn also said "then tapers off to 0.9 bar as it roll's upto 6000rpm".
Presumably this means a big wallop of extra torque lower down, but not much extra boost where peak power is developed - meaning peak power is not affected much.
I do agree that rolling road graphs would be interesting - not sure what it would be like driving a car with a big wallop of torque low down then tailing off - presumably it would feel like a big shove in the back on punching the accelerator and **feel** gutless towards the top end? :confused:
handily next weekend at the RR day we have a few Revo'd cars, a few APR'd car with various stick on bits (turbo pipes, filters etc) so that should make some good comparisons
Mark
SteveN, that’s a good point, but I have got the APR chip and mine peaks past 1.0 bar then holds 1.0 bar until about 5000 rpm but then it tails off alot less than 0.9 bar after 5000 rpm and there’s nothing left in the engine at 6000 rpm so having the chip hold 1.2 bar and then drop off to 0.9 bar is still much better than mine and should allow me to use the revs a bit more instead of changing up at about 5000 - 5500 rpm as I do now:(
Cheers Brian
ibizacupra
31-01-2003, 15:03
As I understand it, REVO have an Ibiza in stock format in today and are doing a before and after RR on it at Stealth, so results should be available shortly.
Std to REVO comparison on the same car, same dyno.
regards
Bill
:cheers: for the info Bill, that would be very interesting to see, it should give good power though.
Cheers Brian
Cupramax
31-01-2003, 16:37
PMSL @ Hellspawn getting Richard & Mitchell mixed up.:foot: :laff:
Originally posted by Shock_Xe
...BUT... Its no longer switchable though the cruise as they take the old chip out and re-prog the standard one again...
I was under the impression that the "standard" chip was removed from the ECU board completely with the APR upgrade therefore I don't understand how they can take out the APR chip and reprog the original.?!?!
Maybe i have the wrong end of the stick tho... :confused:
Graeme
UPDATE : Just checked the ECU (its off the car at the mo coz its knackered) and the original chip has definately been removed.
I'm confused!!!
PS. Also a bit miffed that I'll be expected to pay £150 to be able to switch progs. Was getting very excited about the Revo products and my "free" upgrade - don't sound like that'll be happening any more then. :(
Going off on a different tangent, does anyone know if REVO got thatcham approval for the anti-theft facility on the ECU?:cheers:
Guys,
The standard car with REVO software that went on the rollers at Stealth today, was mine.
I previously had APR, so i'll try and clarify some of your questions below: -
APR EMCS board is removed from ECU and replaced with your original standard factory chip.
The "factory" ECU/chip is then simply overwritten with REVO software.
If you had cruise with the switchable program option, this is no longer applicable, but the cruise stalk will still control cruise.
You can just have a preset 'performance' program flashed to your ECU, or opt for SPS1 or SPS3(as I did ;) ).
The purpose of today's Dyno run, was to clarify the BHP and Torque figures based on a stock car (no other mods) with REVO software set as if you were just to opt for the standard 'performance' program.
(For those who have seen REVO SPS3, the setting was 9 on low boost - 1.2bar approx, and suitable ignition advance to match the fuel).
The DYNO gave good results which I am more than happy with: -
BHP 207BHP @ 4939Rpm
Torque 244 ft/lb @ 3799Rpm
After the RR, I upped the program slightly via the SPS3 unit ready for the journey home. On the actual road, REVO software makes it feel like a different car compared to the old APR software. All I can say is "WOW". Running on optimax fuel with an increase in ignition advance makes a lot of difference, and i mean a lot. It now feels more aggresive and generally faster - much more enjoyable to drive. The TCS now interupts in places never thought of before :p
One other bug bear of mine was the annoying N75 shut down issue many of you are also experiencing. REVO also cures this :)
Anyway, all i can say is, if you were thinking of getting REVO'd - think no more - DO IT :D :D :D
Cheers
ADE (Trog)
P.S. I don't get commission
with peak power coming in at just under 5000rpm. how does the graph go after that.
Originally posted by vibrio
with peak power coming in at just under 5000rpm. how does the graph go after that.
down... :dunno:
hellspawn
31-01-2003, 23:26
Originally posted by leonvt2001
presumably it would feel like a big shove in the back on punching the accelerator and **feel** gutless towards the top end? :confused:
Quite the opposite, it does give a massive kick in the midrange now, and does tail off towards the topend, but only feel's like that because u've just been sucked into ur SEAT *LOL* at gag :D
The topend has been really improved over the APR chip, that i proved today, with dry road and little wind.With apr it hit the wall about 125/130 (ie: meaning i was still accerating but a lot slower from this point) , now it just keeps going past that, and is getting there a lot lot quicker.
The speed the car is now carring is surprising, i'm having to brake to entry of corners where i never did before.APR was in full swing from 2500 rpm, and then dramaitcy dropped away towards topend.
Revo comes in that little bit later now, and last's a lot longer.Definate improvement, i am actually going to try and see if this now saves me fuel (when i stop booting it) because if I drive real lite on the pedal, and change just under 3000 rpm, the car seems very dosile, and if u'd never been in the car before, u would not be expecting the beast that lies beneath, driving like that is exactly like driving my brothers Type R.
hellspawn
31-01-2003, 23:26
Bah double post :eek:
Shock_Xe
01-02-2003, 08:49
So, if you have the upgrade (i.e. single program and NO SPS its free??) Is SPS required??? I assume SPS can be added at a later date????
hellspawn
01-02-2003, 10:35
So, if you have the upgrade (i.e. single program and NO SPS its free??)
Yes if u just uprade from the apr chip and have no sps its free, but u do have to goto daventry to get this done.This entail's them taking the Apr chip out, and putting an orignal star chip in, and flashing this with the revo program.
Is sps required?
what do u need from the car? is it only ur self that drives it, or do other people use it as well, for exp could u trust other people to handle the performance program, always nice to put it back to stock while someone ur not sure u can trust is driving.Can u afford the extra fuel cost's, maybe u'd want to leave it in standard for use to and from work in the week, then have it as a turbo tarmac terroist at weekends? Do u want to run on optimax/super unleaded fuel, do u want to be able to adjust the boost to different level's.
U have to sit down and decide what u need from the car then buy accordingly.
I assume SPS can be added at a later date????
yes.
Shock_Xe
01-02-2003, 11:25
As for the switching of proggies i thought i would switch back to my original proggy when going to work etc... but i found my self switching it straight back because missing the extra power and its stayed on since. My warranty has run out so its not an issue wif dealer, im the only person that drives car so thats not an issue. however i always run the car on optimax and would like the optimax proggy but dont know whether £150 is worth it because i only work part time and at uni so max power for £££ is required (hence FREE upgrade). Can SPS added at later date?? Say when i have spare cash??
hellspawn
01-02-2003, 12:05
Originally posted by Shock_Xe
As for the switching of proggies i thought i would switch back to my original proggy when going to work etc... but i found my self switching it straight back because missing the extra power and its stayed on since. My warranty has run out so its not an issue wif dealer, im the only person that drives car so thats not an issue. however i always run the car on optimax and would like the optimax proggy but dont know whether £150 is worth it because i only work part time and at uni so max power for £££ is required (hence FREE upgrade). Can SPS added at later date?? Say when i have spare cash??
Yes as far as i know u can upgrade sps at any time, for the right price of course.
some more questions answered here
http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=13244
Give them a ring m8, they will give u far more advice than I can, i'm only a customer, the numbers on there webby below
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Have revo sorted out the problem with the some AYP engines not making as much power when chipped as the earlier engines?
revo geoff
05-02-2003, 21:34
hellspawn,
just to confirm... revo technik's sps devices are compatible with revo's performance software. purchasing an sps 1,2 or 3 can be done at your local dealer or via mail direct from revo at any time after your software has been installed.
:car:
ANDY BLUNT
10-02-2003, 23:50
Had my late 2001 ibiza revo,d sunday,very pleased, much better than previous APR . 209BHP & 245LBSFT on sps3,9 low boost and ignition set for optimax.Only other mods to engine 007DV and Green panel filter. I think this means that revo have sorted out later cars. Go and get it done,you no it makes sense.P.S. scared of other 9 high boost settings!:D :cheers: Andy
Shock_Xe
11-02-2003, 00:33
Originally posted by ANDY BLUNT
Had my late 2001 ibiza revo,d sunday,very pleased, much better than previous APR . 209BHP & 245LBSFT on sps3,9 low boost and ignition set for optimax.Only other mods to engine 007DV and Green panel filter. I think this means that revo have sorted out later cars. Go and get it done,you no it makes sense.P.S. scared of other 9 high boost settings!:D :cheers: Andy
out of curiosity what was yer figures before with APR chip??
ibizacupra
11-02-2003, 08:26
Originally posted by Neil82
Have revo sorted out the problem with the some AYP engines not making as much power when chipped as the earlier engines?
I think you can say AYP is more than likely a myth.... given the RR performances of sunday.
Bill
ibizacupra
11-02-2003, 08:27
Originally posted by ANDY BLUNT
Had my late 2001 ibiza revo,d sunday,very pleased, much better than previous APR . 209BHP & 245LBSFT on sps3,9 low boost and ignition set for optimax.Only other mods to engine 007DV and Green panel filter. I think this means that revo have sorted out later cars. Go and get it done,you no it makes sense.P.S. scared of other 9 high boost settings!:D :cheers: Andy
Welcome Andy.
you got on line then :)
(its Bill by the way ;))
ANDY BLUNT
11-02-2003, 11:11
Never did get APR checked on the rollers,should have on Sunday,but lucky to get on anyway,as didn t book a slot.:D