Rolling Road Action Question [Archive] - SEAT Cupra.net

ibizacupra

08-11-2001, 18:59

This is an open question to everyone on this BB who would like to put their car on the rollers to see what power figures their engines produce.

I am particularly interested in getting a number of different 1.8T VAG cars with various mods from various tuners and put them to the definative test.

The venue would potentially be in Cheltenham at a RR which can accomodate 4WD also.

For 1.8T comparisons across the range it would want Audi's, VW's, Seat's, Skoda's, with standard ones, and chipped/modified ones from various tuners such as:-
MTM, ABT, ATP, RSD, AmD, Jabbasport, Upsolute etc etc etc...

For a gathering like this, I am sure there would be magazine interest and features.

To help me guage the interest in this, could I ask fro a straw poll on how many of you, and what cars, would be interested in attending such an event. (multi VAG event)

If you could indicate on the poll what you have if interested in a dyno session that would be great.

Many thanks
Bill

m0rk

08-11-2001, 19:28

count me in.

need to know why i am so fast.

:devil:

BenS1

08-11-2001, 19:29

Bill,

Good idea...

I'd be interested, but since my car is almost exactly the same as yours there probably isn't any point (ie. Ibiza 1.8T RSD 210, Yellow, PPS9s etc)

I too would be interested to see how the others compare... especially 1.8T Ibizas with a K04 upgrade.

Ben

cordobabrendy

08-11-2001, 19:44

i could probably make it too, but only if a track day could be arranged for the same weekend as it would make it moer worthwhile!! :)
Damn you 8 hour ferry!!!
:confused:

ibizacupra

08-11-2001, 20:09

Originally posted by BenS1
Bill,

Good idea...

I'd be interested, but since my car is almost exactly the same as yours there probably isn't any point (ie. Ibiza 1.8T RSD 210, Yellow, PPS9s etc)

Ben

Ahh yes but mine has black wheels :D much faster :D LOL
Seriously though, a comparison on what should be identical motors might reveal more than you would think perhaps...
Bill
:)

Shaggy

08-11-2001, 20:12

I'll be up that way soon bill on the 23rd, Might join ya

ibizacupra

08-11-2001, 20:20

Originally posted by Cupraman
I'll be up that way soon bill on the 23rd, Might join ya
Give us a shout if you want to meet up for the 24th Club Gti RR session. There are 2 places left.
regards
Bill

ibizacupra

09-11-2001, 09:36

Posted on TT forum.... also
http://www.tt-forum.co.uk/cgi-bin/forum/view.pl?board=ttoc

Multi VAG event.
Bill

ScottyP

09-11-2001, 10:48

Can you check your personal mail on this forum please bill.

gtevo

09-11-2001, 11:03

count me in

coupe-sport

09-11-2001, 12:10

just saw this on the TT forum. Up for it....

Audi TT 225, AmD remap, Milltek exhaust, Milltek Cats, Forge DV006.

rgds

James.

FastShow

09-11-2001, 12:23

Depending on when it is, I'd definitely be up for it. I'll either be in a bog-standard Leon 20VT or, if it's a bit later on, I'll be in an UPsoluted 20VT with Forge DV :).

Mosser

09-11-2001, 12:46

It depends on when it is and cost for me!, but i would like to do it

Scoobster

09-11-2001, 14:09

It depends on when it is, and how much the costing is going to be, but I would definitely be interested.

Mine is a standard Beeza Cupra 1.8T, which there don't seem to be that many of around due to you lot all been super fast powerhouse boyz..

Depending on when and stuff, my Bro might also be interested. He drives an Audi A4 1.8T quattro (X-reg, last decent model).

Let us know the details if it goes ahead and I will see if we can make it down there.. bit of a trek from Hull..

widdowd

09-11-2001, 17:47

Count me in!!

Daz..

ibizacupra

10-11-2001, 21:15

I have more infor today after visiting the RR I had in mind.
the venue would be Power Station in Cheltenham. They are a very reputable rolling road and tuning company and do lots of RR days for various car clubs (including a lot of Jap cars)

The RR run, will cost £20 and include a full dyno plot from their 2wd/4wd rolling road including CO etc so they can advise on how the engine was performing on the power runs. Quattro & 4x4 boys can happily be accomodated.
Places are limited to 25 and the day would be a Saturday.

there is no date yet, as I would like to get confirmations from people and models of car attending.

There will no doubt, be a magazine or two present for featuring what I would like to be the best gathering of 1.8T engined VAG cars in the UK. (with Seats well represented ;))

If you could confirm to me via email to:-
dyno@badger5.demon.co.uk

Including the following details:-
Name:
Contact Number:
Car:
Model:

When I get names in I will be able to allocate the 25 available places.

regards
Bill Brockbank

Mosser

10-11-2001, 21:32

Well if you can fit me onto the list i will be there!,

That is a really good price for a RR plot, performance engineering wanted £45+vat for their day!!, and that seemed a bit much to me

Shaggy

10-11-2001, 21:47

Not sure if I will be able to make it guys. Gotta a service at Amethyst on the 23rd, then nipping across to see the guys at RSD

ibizacupra

11-11-2001, 14:15

Originally posted by Cupraman
Not sure if I will be able to make it guys. Gotta a service at Amethyst on the 23rd, then nipping across to see the guys at RSD
Don't get my propsed RR day confused with Club Gti's one.
Mine has no date arranged yet.... still trawling for interest in it.
regards
bill

Trog

11-11-2001, 17:45

Bill,

I guess you were probably coming back from powerstation yesterday, when I follwed you!

I was behind you from cox's meadow, up to the lights by the old Stratford Hotel. You wouldn't have turned your head as I was only in my Renault 5 (runaround 'till I get my beezer), but I am picking my 20VT Beezer up on monday 19th from Holland.

By the way, your car looks the business with those black wheels, I even thought to myself, I should have ordered Yellow ! (but I have a black one coming my way very soon :) )

Too early for me to go to the RR session I think :)

Cheers
TROG

ibizacupra

11-11-2001, 18:07

Originally posted by ademason99
Bill,

I guess you were probably coming back from powerstation yesterday, when I follwed you!

I was behind you from cox's meadow, up to the lights by the old Stratford Hotel. You wouldn't have turned your head as I was only in my Renault 5 (runaround 'till I get my beezer), but I am picking my 20VT Beezer up on monday 19th from Holland.

By the way, your car looks the business with those black wheels, I even thought to myself, I should have ordered Yellow ! (but I have a black one coming my way very soon :) )

Too early for me to go to the RR session I think :)

Cheers
TROG
Well Helloooo!
Sorry for being so ignorant.. :D
I was on my way back from Power Station.
Date is likely in Jan 2002. something to look forward to after the Xmas/New Year break ans subsequent shock of returning to work!
Black was my 2nd choice... Scared of the dirt showing though.... Ha! - If only I'd known how yellow shows the dirt also :D :D so much for that theory :)
there must be quite a few of us around the Glos/Chelt area.. We should meet up sometime.
regards
Bill

Petrolhead Paul

12-11-2001, 13:03

Bill, I wouldn't mind coming along to this RR thing.

gtevo

12-11-2001, 14:02

i'm up for that

Petrolhead Paul

12-11-2001, 15:22

Originally posted by gtevo
i'm up for that

Might as well invite a mag along for a laugh. Show them what REAL hot hatches are capable of.

ibizacupra

12-11-2001, 15:25

Originally posted by Petrolhead Paul

Might as well invite a mag along for a laugh. Show them what REAL hot hatches are capable of.

A Magazine presence is on the cards already.
This will be a 1.8T VAG RR day in the main, with a lot of SEATs aswell.
Names and places are filling nicely.
I will keep you posted on how/what & when.

Please confirm yourselves by dropping me an email to dyno@badger5.demon.co.uk otherwise I may miss you off the list by mystake.
thanks
regards
bill

FastShow

19-11-2001, 15:06

Any more on this? I did mail you but never heard anything back, just wondering if it's a definite yet?

WeeJase

20-11-2001, 20:14

CAN I COME TOO????

ibizacupra

20-11-2001, 21:30

Originally posted by jason
CAN I COME TOO????

What car and engine do you have?

If not done so already could you could confirm to me via email to:-
dyno@badger5.demon.co.uk

Including the following details:-
Name:
Contact Number:
Car:
Model:

Update:
Performance VW will be attending this and run a feature on it.
Likely be a Saturday in January 2002. Confirmation shortly.
regards
bill

Mosser

20-11-2001, 21:39

Hey Bill,

Did you get my email?, i definatly wanna be there and will be LPG powered in 2 weeks time!!!

The LPG comversion place recon i will be getting in the region of 220-225BHP when its all done:D , they are doing a few other mods along with the LPG conversion (induction kit) necessary to make space for the lpg regulator under the bonnet so the standard airbox has to go!!

ibizacupra

20-11-2001, 22:17

Originally posted by Mosser
Hey Bill,

Did you get my email?, i definatly wanna be there and will be LPG powered in 2 weeks time!!!

The LPG comversion place recon i will be getting in the region of 220-225BHP when its all done:D , they are doing a few other mods along with the LPG conversion (induction kit) necessary to make space for the lpg regulator under the bonnet so the standard airbox has to go!!

Nope mate... did you send it yesterday/today?
Demon shitnet have being arsing around the last few days with their "cough" service!
Can't get at any of my emails at the mo.... *******s! Rantmode=off

220bhp! Cool.

We will possibly also get a modified Lupo 1.8T present also, with 300bhp if the owners plans come to fruitition.... A very well known VW modifier.

regards
bill

Mosser

20-11-2001, 23:03

Doh!,

I send you one about 2 weeks ago, then another yesterday cos you didnt reply!, just figured that you were busy with loads of people wanting to go along!,

I will resend it right now!

Trog

25-11-2001, 00:35

Hi Bill,

I'd like to come along, just to see the variety of cars and meet up with a few of you, but I don't think i'll be taking part, as I've only just collected the car, and still breaking it in !

Cheers
ADE (Trog)

ibizacupra

27-11-2001, 11:53

Dear ALL

The RR date is set for Saturday 19th Jan 2002.
Venue is Power Station in Cheltenham.
http://www.powerstation.org.uk/Home_Page.html

9.00-9.30am start.
£20 for the Dyno Power Run, which gets you full dynoplot and measurements of emissions and engineers comments re the run/engine etc...

I am compiling a list of names I have down, and would ask for confirmation from you that 19th is Ok for you.

PVW magazine will be there, as will a few very power unusual VAG machines.

I thought I had posted this before, but could'nt find it, so appologies if this is a repeat.

This is primarily aimed at 1.8T engines VAG cars as a definative get together for real comparisons etc....

When I post the names, please confirm by email to me that you can make it, with the following information.

Name:
Car:
Engine:
Contact Number:

email these to dyno@badger5.demon.co.uk

Many thanks
regards

Bill

Mosser

27-11-2001, 11:59

Holy cow!!!, i'm gonna have to get up early for this one then!:confused: , but i will be there! :D

gtevo

27-11-2001, 14:00

i'm further then you..............

cordobabrendy

27-11-2001, 18:31

can i bubble wrap my 16v and send it over????
would love to know what it is pushing out!!:cheers:

ibizacupra

29-11-2001, 00:05

Below is the list of names I have down so far for the RR bash on the 19th Jan 2002 at Power Station.
If you see your name there can you confirm please that you can make the 19th Jan 2002 for 9:0-9:30am start at Power Station in Cheltenham. Cost £20/car - Bargain!
email me at dynoconfirmation@badger5.demon.co.uk

thankyou.
regards
Bill :)

1 Mark Phelps Mark P Ibiza 1.4 1.4CL
2 Ben Sleat Ben Ibiza 20VT-210 1.8T
3 Bill Brockbank Ibizacupra Ibiza 20VT-210
4 Paul Baystone Petrolhead Paul Ibiza 20VT-210
5 Duncan Grier Duncan Ibiza 20VT-210 1.8T
6 Russell Hayward Russell Ibiza 20VT 1.8T
7 Ian prudence Mosser Leon 20VT-225 1.8T
8 Dave Arthurton GTEVO Ibiza 20VT-210 1.8T
9 Darren Widdowson Daz Ibiza 20VT 1.8T
10 Carl Prescott Fastshow Leon 20VT 1.8T
11 Lee Chung Chungster Ibiza 20VT-210
12 Steve Fitzpatrick Steve Fitz Audi TT Roadster-260
13 Ian Birch Dubsport Lupo 1.8T-300 1.8T
14 Gary Handa MRKIV Golf IV-Gti-300 1.8T
15 Jason Phillips Ibiza Gti 16v
16 Scott Poole Cordoba SX 16v
17 Keith Murray Dialyinx Audi TT Coupe-450 2.7TT

Mosser

29-11-2001, 00:10

I'm also getting an induction kit fitted and snorkelling it to the front bumper although this wont show extra power on the RR cos it only pressurises when moving!

ibizacupra

29-11-2001, 00:21

Originally posted by Mosser
I'm also getting an induction kit fitted and snorkelling it to the front bumper although this wont show extra power on the RR cos it only pressurises when moving!

I have heard that it takes a huge speed to pressurise and intake... It will probably work better because it can breath cooler outside air.
Bill

Mosser

29-11-2001, 00:24

Its mainly being fitted cos the LPG conversion bods want the airbox space to put the LPG bits cos the enginebays on these things dont have much spare room!

BenS1

29-11-2001, 13:47

Bill,

Considering you say "Performance VW" mag will be there, there doesn't appear to be ANY VWs on the list!!! ;)
Do they cover the VAG group in general not just real VWs?

BTW, if your interested I might be able to get my mate to bring his Golf along... it used to be a Golf Mk2 1.3 litre, then he made it into a GTi by using parts from a wrecked Golf GTi and finally he added a Turbo to the old VW N/A 1.8 engine. Its a bit of an old rust bucket but its fairly fast.

Might be worth a comparison.

Let me know if your interested and I'll ask him.

Ben

ibizacupra

29-11-2001, 16:31

Originally posted by BenS1
Bill,

Considering you say "Performance VW" mag will be there, there doesn't appear to be ANY VWs on the list!!! ;)
Do they cover the VAG group in general not just real VWs?

BTW, if your interested I might be able to get my mate to bring his Golf along... it used to be a Golf Mk2 1.3 litre, then he made it into a GTi by using parts from a wrecked Golf GTi and finally he added a Turbo to the old VW N/A 1.8 engine. Its a bit of an old rust bucket but its fairly fast.

Might be worth a comparison.

Let me know if your interested and I'll ask him.

Ben
I'll have to let you konw on that... as the day is aimed at 1.8T engined kit. There may be some more Audi's and VW's yet to join the fun.
regards
Bill

chungster

29-11-2001, 19:48

I'm not surprised PVW are interested, since they did do a storming article on a certain tuners demo...known to some as the "silver shitter".

I'll bring it along if no one has seen that article.

PVW, like some of the other VW mags, are actually interested in the other brands within the VAG flag....as long as the car is a performance one i guess.

I'm sure they'll be featuring a 260+bhp Octavia RS WRC replica or something in the near future.......

Big thanks to Bill for organsing this by the way. Nice one.

Lee

Glenn

30-11-2001, 21:32

Hi Gents,

Some interesting articles about rolling roads,amongst other things, at this site:

http://www.pumaracing.co.uk/mainmenu.htm

Glenn.

ibizacupra

30-11-2001, 23:06

Originally posted by Glenn
Hi Gents,

Some interesting articles about rolling roads,amongst other things, at this site:

http://www.pumaracing.co.uk/mainmenu.htm

Glenn.

At the wheels figures are the only reliable figures...
I have to agree with Puma on that one, and power at the wheels on one set of rollers rearely equals those of another.
Bill

BenS1

01-12-2001, 11:24

Can't rolling roads be calibrated?
If rolling roads don't give accurate readings then is there another way to get an accurate reading?

Thanks,
Ben

ibizacupra

02-12-2001, 12:06

In answer - yes they can, but how many actually do this regularly, and how many take into account all variables like barometric pressure, tyre pressure, vehicle weight etc etc...
Results relative on the day are the best you can get. You can just read The Golf mag and see the wild array of results from many UK rolling roads. It does'nt add up.
Power Station are reputable and work on many Jap cars and are mapping agents for Motec. They know there stuff, and the results should be realistic.
regards
bill

ibizacupra

02-12-2001, 12:20

ibizacupra

02-12-2001, 12:25

Originally posted by ibizacupra
Below is the list of names I have down so far for the RR bash on the 19th Jan 2002 at Power Station.
If you see your name there can you confirm please that you can make the 19th Jan 2002 for 9:0-9:30am start at Power Station in Cheltenham. Cost £20/car - Bargain!
email me at dynoconfirmation@badger5.demon.co.uk

thankyou.
regards
Bill :)

1 Mark Phelps Mark P Ibiza 1.4 1.4CL
2 Ben Sleat Ben Ibiza 20VT-210 1.8T
3 Bill Brockbank Ibizacupra Ibiza 20VT-210
4 Paul Baystone Petrolhead Paul Ibiza 20VT-210
5 Duncan Grier Duncan Ibiza 20VT-210 1.8T
6 Russell Hayward Russell Ibiza 20VT 1.8T
7 Ian prudence Mosser Leon 20VT-225 1.8T
8 Dave Arthurton GTEVO Ibiza 20VT-210 1.8T
9 Darren Widdowson Daz Ibiza 20VT 1.8T
10 Carl Prescott Fastshow Leon 20VT 1.8T
11 Lee Chung Chungster Ibiza 20VT-210
12 Steve Fitzpatrick Steve Fitz Audi TT Roadster-260
13 Ian Birch Dubsport Lupo 1.8T-300 1.8T
14 Gary Handa MRKIV Golf IV-Gti-300 1.8T
15 Jason Phillips Ibiza Gti 16v
16 Scott Poole Cordoba SX 16v
17 Keith Murray Dialyinx Audi TT Coupe-450
2.7TT

18 Jabbasport car#1
19 Jabbasport car#2

Tuners have been invited to take part on this RR session:
ABT,APR,RSD,AmD,MTM(QuattrosSports), Upsolute (website was down when I sent invite, still need to send invite - Mike from Impossible Performance - if you're reading this...)

Places are filling fast. 1.8T engined cars will have priority places as this is the reason for the gathering. Spaces, if we have any (25 max cars) will be allocated to everyone one else on first come first served basis - from your first replies by email which I have on file)
So far this responce is excellent, and I thank you for the interest.

I'll keep you advised on things along the way.
regards
BIll

chungster

02-12-2001, 13:49

Bill,

I might get RSD to bring their 235bhp Golf Demo...or, one of their customers with the same conversion!

I can't believe Dubsport has got a Lupo running 300bhp!! That is truly bonkers!

Lee

ZBOYD

02-12-2001, 17:34

Bill is there any 210 Oettinger Leon's on that list?

If not i may make the effort and come down.

Let me know.

BenS1

03-12-2001, 00:52

Sorry, changing to topic slightly, but Lee.... do RSD offer the 235 conversion for Ibizas too? I've got the 210 conversion already as you know but I'm now a power addict and like all addicts.... I WANT MORE!!!! Is this the kit they wont offer to Joe Bloggs?

Thanks,
Ben

Fl@pper

03-12-2001, 01:27

that'll be the one ben

to be honest i think it would be NUTS on a road car

well , only one way to find out though ? :devil: ?

ibizacupra

03-12-2001, 12:15

Originally posted by ZBOYD
Bill is there any 210 Oettinger Leon's on that list?

If not i may make the effort and come down.

Let me know.
Nope.. No RSD Leon yet... we have an Upsoluted Leon (mosser) so yours is welcome..
Can you confirm by email to dynoconfirmation@badger5.demon.co.uk so I don't lose your name etc...

many thanks
bill

Icecavern

03-12-2001, 12:43

Originally posted by BenS1
Sorry, changing to topic slightly, but Lee.... do RSD offer the 235 conversion for Ibizas too? I've got the 210 conversion already as you know but I'm now a power addict and like all addicts.... I WANT MORE!!!! Is this the kit they wont offer to Joe Bloggs?

Thanks,
Ben

I think they vet you before doing the 235 conversion. They wouldn't let Lee have it because he'd kill himself....:D :D :D :D
I think the ibiza is too light for anymore than 210 personally, you'd never get any traction...:devil: :devil:

Pete

Mosser

03-12-2001, 12:47

How about doing the conversion the 235 on the beezer, then bolting 50Kilos of lead into the spare wheel space?, should give it a bit more weight and even up the front to rear balance problem?, might be wrong though, but the leon likes a bit of weight in the boot!, handles better

Icecavern

03-12-2001, 13:10

The ICE install would add that weight in the back..:devil: :devil:

Problem is then you'd never get any traction from the front wheels.. Needs a concreate engine cover I recon...

Pete

ibizacupra

03-12-2001, 19:01

APR have confirmed today of joining the party on 19th Jan 2002 at Power Station.
Places running out now....
confirmations req'd from those who have'nt yet.
dynoconfirmation@badger5.demon.co.uk

regards
bill

chungster

03-12-2001, 19:41

RSD looks like being unable to attend this RR day.

Ben, If you are seriously looking for more power from your beezer...and money is NO object (it will be bloody expensive which ever option you choose) i suggest you either:

1) Buy another car with more bhp.
2) Go to APR Europe and enquire about their 280bhp upgrade kit..at a cost of 4k!
3) Do an Audi TT transplant..then get someone like AmD to up the ante and get it running 260-270bhp.
4) Speak to Ian Birch at Dubsport to see what they can to for ya!
5) Speak to Mike Truluck at Jabbasport to see what he can do too.
6) Buy a MoTeC ECU management system...then map it so that it'll take 100bhp worth of Nitrous Oxide! Thats before you buy new pistons/conrod/bolts/mounts/gearbox/driveshaft/etc etc

Running costs will be seriously high. Insurance will be thru the roof...if they want to insure you anyway!

I think you get the picture!

Lee

Impossible

04-12-2001, 00:28

Hi Bill, I'm up for it... even if it's to see what mosser's car does with gas! The SEAT club members have the SEAT side sorted for us.. Could bring the Bug, but it's a 2.0l running a hybrd turbo, with gas..no not the green stuff the laughing stuff:eek: Should be able to bring a Golf 1.8T with a few extra's under the bonnet, bit more inkeeping with the 1.8T thing.

Web-sites down at the moment :( sorry peeps, should be up in a few hours:D

see ou guys soon
Mic

Impossible

ibizacupra

04-12-2001, 10:59

Originally posted by Impossible
Hi Bill, I'm up for it... even if it's to see what mosser's car does with gas! The SEAT club members have the SEAT side sorted for us.. Could bring the Bug, but it's a 2.0l running a hybrd turbo, with gas..no not the green stuff the laughing stuff:eek: Should be able to bring a Golf 1.8T with a few extra's under the bonnet, bit more inkeeping with the 1.8T thing.

Web-sites down at the moment :( sorry peeps, should be up in a few hours:D

see ou guys soon
Mic

Impossible
Hi Mike
Can you bring your golf 1.8T, to keep things 1.8 20VT related.
I'll put your name down for one place.
cheers
bill

ibizacupra

04-12-2001, 11:04

Originally posted by chungster
RSD looks like being unable to attend this RR day.

Lee
I'm not surprised... at RSD, as there are plenty of their customer cars coming along on the day, so they will be well represented anyway.
regards
bill

BenS1

05-12-2001, 13:57

Flapper,

You said that you thought 235bhp in a road Ibiza would be insane... I have to disagree... the 210 Ibiza is fast but its not unbelievably fast. 0-60 times arn't even 0.5 seconds faster than a Clio sport 172, and you could easily loose that 0.5 seconds through wheel spin, driver skill etc.

OK, I know 0-60 isn't the most important thing in the world but to me 3rd - 5th gear accelleration doesn't feel that amazing... well sort of. It doesn't "Feel" like I'm accelerating that fast but then if you look at the Speedo you realise that you are.... perhaps this is just a credit to the smoothness of the engine.

235bhp isn't THAT much more than 207bhp.... do you really think it would make THAT much difference?

To be honest I don't think I need any more power, really I think I want to adjust the gear ratios slightly... 1st gear needs to be longer so that you can put your foot down a bit without just wheel spinning, 2nd is quite good, 3rd - 5th should be made a bit shorter I think. Ideally I'd want a 6 speed box... 1st-5th ratios adjusted for best acceleration and 6th for economy.

Lee, thanks for the info on the options... I can honsestly say that I would of considered the APR 280bhp conversion if I had known about it! :) Now that probably would be insane!

Don't get me wrong... I love the power that the car currently has... its the most fun car I've ever had by far and theres nothing within £10k of the car that I would imagine would be more fun.

I can't wait for the summer when the roads are dry. :o)

Bill, sorry for changing the subject again.

Thanks,
Ben

PS. Has anyone else noticed how much slower the car feels when you have a passenger... even with my girlfriend who only weights 8 stone the car feels like its lost 50bhp. I never noticed this much difference on my 205 or 306.... but then I never had this much power then! :)

djawol

05-12-2001, 17:26

Originally posted by BenS1

235bhp isn't THAT much more than 207bhp.... do you really think it would make THAT much difference?

Ben,

I guess you only test drove the 207? If you compare it to a standard 156 it's completely different. There is only 50bhp between them. An extra 30bhp would be quite a large leap again.....

Andy

ibizacupra

10-12-2001, 21:14

Here's my list of names for the RR sessions at Power Station on the 19th Jan 2002.
Power Station 1.8T Rolling Road day

Name AKA Car Engine
1
2 Ben Sleat Ben Ibiza 20VT-210 1.8T
3 Bill Brockbank Ibizacupra Ibiza 20VT-210 1.8T
4 Paul Baystone Petrolhead Paul Ibiza 20VT-210 1.8T
5 Duncan Grier Duncan Ibiza 20VT-210 1.8T
6 Russell Hayward Russell Ibiza 20VT 1.8T
7 Ian prudence Mosser Leon 20VT-225 1.8T
8 Dave Arthurton GTEVO Ibiza 20VT-210 1.8T
9 Darren Widdowson Daz Ibiza 20VT 1.8T
10 Carl Prescott Fastshow Leon 20VT 1.8T
11 Lee Chung Chungster Ibiza 20VT-210 1.8T
12 Steve Fitzpatrick Steve Fitz Audi TT Roadster-260 1.8T
13 Ian Birch Dubsport Lupo 1.8T-300 1.8T
14 Gary Handa MRKIV Golf IV-Gti-300 1.8T
15 Jason Phillips Ibiza Gti 16v
16 Scott Poole Cordoba SX 16v
17 Keith Murray Dialyinx Audi TT Coupe-450 2.7TT
18 Jabbasport car#1 1.8T
19 Jabbasport car#2 1.8T
20 APR Mark Yates car#1 1.8T
21 Upsolute Golf IV 1.8T
22 Mark Phelps Ibiza 20VT 1.8T
23 Wayne Helme Ibiza 20VT-Upsolute 1.8T
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Superchips no reply yet
AmD no reply yet
RSD no reply yet

Have I missed anyone out?
Places are almost filled now....

Cheers
Bill

m0rk

10-12-2001, 21:18

Bill - see the private message - my g/f has booked some plane tickets for a surprise...

if you can't fill the slot i'll cough for it though

M

ibizacupra

10-12-2001, 21:22

Originally posted by MarkP
Bill - see the private message - my g/f has booked some plane tickets for a surprise...

if you can't fill the slot i'll cough for it though

M
sorry mate - you did tell me...
I did'nt realise there were 2 of you.... replied to the other one of course!!! DOH! Good old address book going for the first thing I type...

Sorted and amended above as you can see..

cheers
Bill

m0rk

10-12-2001, 21:43

Cunning isn't it having two Mark Phelps'

I would like to be there - but a free holiday to europe is a shed load better.

unless any of you guys want to sleep with me?? :repuke: JOKE

M

Trog

10-12-2001, 22:07

I guess it's OK if I I come along to meet people and see how things go. I don't want to enter my Beezer as it's early days, but i'm keen to get an idea about which ECU chip to go for.

Cheers
ADE (Trog)

Phelpo

10-12-2001, 22:48

Go for it ADE I am entering a bog standard 1.8T , with 3000 miles on, they will need something to relate to. Think of it as a reference to work from, it could make people very happy or piss them of somewhat. We shall see!

To Mark Phelps, sorry about the mix up Mark we thought this might happen still have a good holiday. Perhaps I should be Mark R Phelps (unless your middle initial is R as well) or Welsh Git, what ever takes your fancy.

Mark Phelps

ibizacupra

10-12-2001, 22:49

Originally posted by ademason99
I guess it's OK if I I come along to meet people and see how things go. I don't want to enter my Beezer as it's early days, but i'm keen to get an idea about which ECU chip to go for.

Cheers
ADE (Trog)
Feel free to mate... there are a lot of Seats coming along.
If you've got some miles on it by 19th Jan, why not have a go and see what its producing? :)
regards
Bill

Black20VT

11-12-2001, 16:52

Bill etc,

This certainly looks as though it's going to be a fun/interesting day, but can I throw another chip in the pan? (Sorry, lame joke!)

I don't know if you've seen my post's in the Ibiza forum about the Dastek Unichip? Well to summarise, it's a piggyback chip that nobody seems to have but gets rave reviews.

That was me summary, for more info check out the post 'Upsolute or Other Chip' in the Ibiza forum. Sorry, can't be arsed to write it all out again, as I could have a case of RSI and I don't think my company would pay out as this ain't really work related!?!?!

Anyway the reason for this post is it'll be good to see a Unichip car on the RR along with the Oettingers and Upsolutes etc. I've been speaking to Gerry Gaffney who works at the main Unichip outlet for the UK about arranging to have one present on the 19th. The thing is, we're after a donor car.

Is anyone interested in being a donor for a day or two?

I believe Gerry is going to speak to PowerStation, where you're all going, about fitting the chip etc. but obviously none of this can go ahead if no-one is willing to be a donor. Maybe we could speak to Amethyst or something? I don't know, just weighing up the options at the moment. I'd offer, but my car is the old Golf MKII GTi 16V.

Any ideas/donors/questions/suggestions anyone?

Cheers,

Chris.

gtevo

11-12-2001, 17:01

Does the doner car keep the unichip

ibizacupra

11-12-2001, 18:16

Originally posted by Wannabe
Bill etc,

This certainly looks as though it's going to be a fun/interesting day, but can I throw another chip in the pan? (Sorry, lame joke!)

I don't know if you've seen my post's in the Ibiza forum about the Dastek Unichip? Well to summarise, it's a piggyback chip that nobody seems to have but gets rave reviews.

That was me summary, for more info check out the post 'Upsolute or Other Chip' in the Ibiza forum. Sorry, can't be arsed to write it all out again, as I could have a case of RSI and I don't think my company would pay out as this ain't really work related!?!?!

Anyway the reason for this post is it'll be good to see a Unichip car on the RR along with the Oettingers and Upsolutes etc. I've been speaking to Gerry Gaffney who works at the main Unichip outlet for the UK about arranging to have one present on the 19th. The thing is, we're after a donor car.

Is anyone interested in being a donor for a day or two?

I believe Gerry is going to speak to PowerStation, where you're all going, about fitting the chip etc. but obviously none of this can go ahead if no-one is willing to be a donor. Maybe we could speak to Amethyst or something? I don't know, just weighing up the options at the moment. I'd offer, but my car is the old Golf MKII GTi 16V.

Any ideas/donors/questions/suggestions anyone?

Cheers,

Chris.

Could I ask this question to the standard engine 20VT's on the list already.....

GTEVO's question of do they get to keep it if they want it for free or discounted etc as its a promo if all works well on the day. My reservation is does it need setting up (mapping) as on the day there will be no time to do this. something for the Unichip man to advise us on.

Anyone care to volunteer?
regards
Bill

Black20VT

12-12-2001, 09:09

Bill,

I heard back from Gerry last night and apparently there is an Audi A4 that might be able to come along. It was 148bhp standard and is now 197bhp with only 12psi boost.

Could you save a space for Unichip car of some sort anyway?

In regards to installing on the day, as you mention, that'll be out of the question. It can take up to a day to set the whole thing up, and would therefore need to be done beforehand. As for a discount for the donor, I can't answer that and unfortunately Gerry is now away for a week. If it does come to the point of requiring a donor car, I'll pose the question of what would be in it for the donor.

Cheers,

Chris.

ibizacupra

12-12-2001, 12:55

Originally posted by Wannabe
Bill,

I heard back from Gerry last night and apparently there is an Audi A4 that might be able to come along. It was 148bhp standard and is now 197bhp with only 12psi boost.

Could you save a space for Unichip car of some sort anyway?

In regards to installing on the day, as you mention, that'll be out of the question. It can take up to a day to set the whole thing up, and would therefore need to be done beforehand. As for a discount for the donor, I can't answer that and unfortunately Gerry is now away for a week. If it does come to the point of requiring a donor car, I'll pose the question of what would be in it for the donor.

Cheers,

Chris.
I'll add a place for a Unichip someone, but I will need confirmation of attending as places are scarce and demand is high.
regards
Bill

ZBOYD

12-12-2001, 14:04

Bill

I did mention this in my email to you, but do we need to all be there at 9am, i wont be arriving at 5pm or anything :)

But i am coming down from Manchester, so its gonna take me a couple of hours. Dont fancy setting off at 6am on a Saturday :p

cause im a northern lazy bast you see :p

ibizacupra

12-12-2001, 14:28

Originally posted by ZBOYD
Bill

I did mention this in my email to you, but do we need to all be there at 9am, i wont be arriving at 5pm or anything :)

But i am coming down from Manchester, so its gonna take me a couple of hours. Dont fancy setting off at 6am on a Saturday :p

cause im a northern lazy bast you see :p
The day kicks off between 9.00 and 9.30 and there are a lot of cars to be done so if you were to arrive between 10.00-11.00 then I doubt you will miss your slot.
regards
bill

ZBOYD

12-12-2001, 14:32

Thats cool, thats what im thinking, i set off to RSD when i had my chip done at around 9am, and arrived not long after 11am.

So i'll aim for an 8 am setoff so no worry's i'll be there, well before lunch anyway.

Black20VT

12-12-2001, 14:35

Bill,

I'll let you know as soon as I know. Problem is, Gerry is now away for a week. It's a case of one of the people already going having it done, or another car being supplied. Depending on the result from that, depends on if an additional place is needed, or one already taken up.

I'll speak to Gerry when he's back and see what can be sorted for an Ibiza or Leon if we have a donor. Discounts etc.

Would be good if we could get an Ibiza or a Leon with one though don't you think?

Cheers,

Chris.