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2005 Platinum Seat Leon FR modification list
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk253/jonjay_uk/9cbc3a8d.jpg
CHASSIS
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~ KW Variant 3 Coilovers
~ 034 TrackDensity Top Mounts
~ Eibach Anti Roll Bars 25mm front & rear
~ VF Engineering Drop Links
~ Audi S3 upper strut brace
~ Audi S3 lower strut brace
~ Hughes Engineering rear strut brace
~ ATE High Performance Brake Kit (4 Pot, 326x30mm 2 piece discs, ATE pads and braided hoses)
~ Audi TT Rear Calipers (256x22mm vented discs and Ferodo DS2500s)
~ EBC DOT-5 brake fluid
~ Leon Cupra R 18" alloy wheels (machine faced w/ anthracite inserts)
~ Toyo T1-R tyres
~ Forge 10mm rear hubcentric spacers w/ longer bolts and locking wheel nuts
~ SuperPro Steering Rack bush
~ SuperPro DogBone mount kit
~ Superflex front wishbone with camber adjustment
~ SuperPro rear wishbone bushes
~ Powerflex rear beam bushes
ENGINE
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~ TurboDynamics MD376 Stage 2 Turbo
~ AmD Technik Stage 3 custom remap (Kenny@AmD special)
~ Quaife ATB Differential
~ Blueprinted, Ported and Polished ARL Cylinder Head
~ Sachs Organic Clutch with DMF rated @ 407lb/ft
~ Hayward and Scott 3" Turbo Back Exhaust with custom H&S tip.
~ Wingnut EGR Stealth Race Pipe
~ Twin Cold Air Feed from fogs (custom)
~ Apexi Power Intake
~ Forge Short Shifter
~ SFS Performance Turbo Intake Pipe
~ Hayward and Scott custom Turbo Outlet Pipe
~ Hayward and Scott custom FMIC Boost Pipe kit
~ SEAT 5.5 Ltr Screenwash Bottle - for future watermeth
EXTERIOR
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~ Leon Cupra R front bumper
~ Fabia rear wiper
~ Areo front wipers
~ LHD drivers side mirror
~ Front and rear number plate surrounds
~ Xenon 6000K H7 HIDs, Xenon 9 LED H3 sidelights
~ OSRAM Night breakers H1
~ Diadem OSRAM Indicator bulbs
~ Engine bay bonnet seal
~ Debadged slightly
~ Professionally Detailed by JonJay (myself)
INTERIOR
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~ Becker Mexico Pro headunit
~ Audi S3 Autodim rear view mirror
~ Audi S3 Illuminated Vents
~ Audi S3 Pedals
~ Audi R8 Oil Cap
~ R32 Steering Wheel
~ VAG 2 button flip key - soon
~ Keyfob controlled windows
~ Leon Cupra R spare wheel (custom)
~ Leon Cupra R gear knob
~ Leon FR dead pedal (custom)
~ Brushed alloy oil dip-stick cover (custom)
~ Forge Strut Top Caps
~ VAG Cruise Control
~ Xenon White LED full interior conversion
~ Piano Black center console and battery cover.
~ SEAT Leon mats, leather handbrake cover, boot tidy and cargo net
~ CG-Lock
POWER OUTPUT
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RR - Cat Back exhaust, Panel Filter, No Remap (http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/SuperchipsRR.jpg)
RR - Smoothed Box, Twin Cold Air Feed, Stage 1 remap (http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk253/jonjay_uk/AmDRR130708.jpg)
RR - Milltek DP, SFS Hose Kit, Stage 1 remap (http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/SFS/RR5_SFSKit.jpg)
RR - TD MD376 Turbo, Stage 3 map (http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/AmDMD376BT2.JPG)
RR - SFS Alloy FMIC Pipes, Turbo Outlet and Pancake replacement (http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/SFS/SFSresults1.jpg)
DETAILING INDEX
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Vauxhall Corsa 1.2 - Paint Correction Detail (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2084424&postcount=495)
mk1 Seat Leon Cupra - Soundwaves Paint Correction Detail (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2092617&postcount=497)
mk3 Ibiza Cupra - lm_gauci Paint Correction Detail (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2151458&postcount=521)
mk1 Seat Leon Cupra R - DJM's Paint Correction Detail (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2155217&postcount=530)
Detailing the Foam Lance (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2242798&postcount=661)
Vauxhall Corsa 1.2 - Paint Enhancement - Dodo Juice Need for Speed (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2245965&postcount=672)
mk1 Seat leon FR Tdi - JonJay's Car Detailed Pictures (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2305837&postcount=874)
Orca's mk4 Ovni Seat Ibiza FR Paint Correction Detail (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2318102&postcount=888)
Roscoe's Audi A3 Paint Correction Detail (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2341864&postcount=924)
EmDee's Camaro SS - Paint Correction Detail (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2374890&postcount=984)
Pug 106 Turbo 450BHP - Paint Correction Detail (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2420177&postcount=1057)
JJs mini detail for Auto Finesse show 2009 (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2451628&postcount=1096)
mk1 Seat Leon FR Tdi - Slicks Paint Correction Detail (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=219611)
mk1 Seat Leon Cupra R - Wookies Paint Correction Detail (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2518392&postcount=1209)
SCN National 2009 Show n Shine winner (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2522646&postcount=1213)
Ford Escort RS Cosworth 500BHP - Paint Correction Detail (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2555433&postcount=1287)
mk3 VW Golf - Skorchio's Paint Correction Detail (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2572365&postcount=1297)
mk1 Seat Leon Cupra R - Paint Correction Detail - Leon correctional facility (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2603882&postcount=1355)
mk3 Ibiza Cupra - lm_Gauci annual Paint Correction Detail #2 (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2599262&postcount=1343)
BMW e46 330d - 2 Stage Paint Correction Detail - my mate dave (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2787293&postcount=1548)
BMW e92 320d - 2 Stage Paint Correction Detail - Gleam the Beemer (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2644609&postcount=1377)
mk1 Leon Cupra R - 2 Stage Paint Correction Detail - Karma when detailing the beast (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2683754&postcount=1408)
Audi A4 Avant 2.5TDI - Enhancement Detail (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2692629&postcount=1412)
BMW 530i - Full Paint Correction Detail (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2730240&postcount=1430)
Platinum Leon FR TDI - Summer spruce up (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3036893&postcount=1861)
VW Passat Estate TDI - FullWerkes Detail (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3069893&postcount=1937)
mk4 Golf TDI PD250 - Dirty Dirty Deisel Paint Correction (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3110451&postcount=1960)
BMW e46 M3 SMG - Paint Enhancement Detail (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3117980&postcount=1984)
mk1 Seat Leon FR TDI - Jonjay & Gleammachine Paint Enhancement Detail (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=130737&page=104)
mk5 Seat Ibiza 1.6CR TDI - Paint Correction (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3399834&postcount=2385)
mk1 Seat Leon Cupra R - Project Carbon - Paint Correction Detail (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3467816&postcount=2438)
CAR INDEX
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H&R Suspension and Pipercraft Exhaust (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1459669&postcount=2)
312mm Brake Upgrade, Fabia Rear Wiper and LCR Splitter (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1459675&postcount=3)
Fabia Rear Wiper (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1459675&postcount=3)
Audi TT Pedals (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1472468&postcount=39)
Eibach Anti Roll Bars (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1517827&postcount=42)
Audi S3 Lower Strut Brace (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1599434&postcount=62)
HIDs and LED side lights (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1619592&postcount=63)
Becker Head Unit (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1638242&postcount=70)
Grey Centre Console 1 (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1675106&postcount=87)
Grey Centre Console Finished (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1691771&postcount=109)
Indicator Lights Upgrade (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1698490&postcount=122)
Indicator Lights Upgrade 2 (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1704299&postcount=134)
Audi S3 Upper Strut Brace (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1704283&postcount=133)
AmD Stage 1 remap (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1711965&postcount=139)
Custom LCR Alloys (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1746997&postcount=168)
Custom LCR Alloys 2 (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1747606&postcount=174)
ATE Big Brake Kit - 1 (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1754129&postcount=190)
ATE Big Brake Kit - 2 (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1764149&postcount=196)
ATE Big Brake Kit - 3 (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1793791&postcount=248)
ATE Big Brake Kit - review (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1818189&postcount=265)
Full LED conversion (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1848588&postcount=279)
Full LED conversion 2 (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1866879&postcount=283)
Full LED conversion 3 (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1870385&postcount=291)
4" Cold Air Feed (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1907700&postcount=329)
4" Cold Air Feed #2 (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1924444&postcount=331)
Painted Airbox, Battery Cover and Forge 10mm Spacers (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1924444&postcount=331)
Twin Cold Air Feed (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1935641&postcount=354)
Painted Engine Cover and clean engine bay (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1969436&postcount=368)
Rear Parcel Shelf, Net and Rear Strut Brace (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1969436&postcount=368)
Piano Black Centre Console (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1994657&postcount=397)
Bonnet Seal (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2025696&postcount=429)
Miltek Exhaust Review and SFS pipe no.4 (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2040023&postcount=454)
SFS FMIC Pipework and TIP (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2155166&postcount=523)
SFS Pipework Results (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2155171&postcount=525)
Forge Catch Tank (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2164825&postcount=546)
FR Dead Pedal (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2174325&postcount=554)
Quaife ATB Diff and Sachs racing clutch (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2201753&postcount=588)
Sachs Clutch and Quaife ATB Diff - review (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2204213&postcount=601)
TurboDynamics MD376 Big Turbo Review (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2258738&postcount=715)
TurboDynamics MD376 Big Turbo Impressions (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2260423&postcount=727)
TurboDynamics MD376 Big Turbo Final Thoughts (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2265581&postcount=757)
Painted Rear Brakes (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2286637&postcount=791)
AmD RR Day pictures (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2309037&postcount=878)
Rolling Road video (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2312155&postcount=879)
GTI International Springfest 2009 (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2366143&postcount=955)
OE Pipework back on and New AmD remap (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2403400&postcount=1039)
Wingnut EGR Mod, Cruise Control and Autodim Rear View Mirror (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2442333&postcount=1081)
Official Leon BTTC splitter (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2460036&postcount=1117)
Wingnut EGR Review (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2477042&postcount=1127)
SFS FMIC Alloy Piping, Turbo outlet and pancake replacement (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2506179&postcount=1142)
SFS Goodies Day #1 thoughts (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2508104&postcount=1160)
Audi S3 Vents, LCR Bumper and Skorchio Detail (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2514254&postcount=1181)
Leon Cupra R Bumper (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2515681&postcount=1204)
Forced Induction Twin Cold Air Feed from fogs (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2562800&postcount=1289)
KW Variant 3 - Low and slow review (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2586825&postcount=1324)
Hayward and Scott: Boost Pipes and Exhaust (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2763697&postcount=1460)
Hayward and Scott: Boost Pipes and Exhaust Pictures #1 (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2764983&postcount=1471)
Hayward and Scott: Boost Pipes and Exhaust Pictures #2 (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2764983&postcount=1472)
Hayward and Scott: Opinion #1 (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2767442&postcount=1497)
Apexi Power Intake and SuperPro Bushes (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2844586&postcount=1671)
VF Engineering Drop Links review (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2877417&postcount=1736)
034 Motorsport Top Mounts (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2896979&postcount=1755)
Mk5 Seat Ibiza 1.6TDI CR (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=2909664&postcount=1777)
Actuator Adjustment - Smoke issues cleared (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3025269&postcount=1851)
Final Remap review (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3063245&postcount=1925)
Audi TT Rear Calipers - Painted (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3055439&postcount=1922)
Left Hand Drive - Dual View Mirror (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3073079&postcount=1938)
R32 Steering Wheel (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3127794&postcount=2005)
256mm Brake Conversion + Spare Wheel ready (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3158626&postcount=2035)
Wingnut Mod - Anti Shudder Valve thoughts (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3161210&postcount=2044)
Hayward and Scott 3" DP and Turbo Outlet review (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3229210&postcount=2190)
Dual View Mirror, Toyo T1-Rs & OSRAM Nightbreakers (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3396791&postcount=2381)
Workshop / Detailing Studio Build #1 (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3487982&postcount=2476)
Workshop / Detailing Studio Build #2 (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3501791&postcount=2486)
Workshop / Detailing Studio Build #3 (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3504385&postcount=2492)
Workshop / Detailing Studio Build #4 (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3505120&postcount=2496)
Workshop / Detailing Studio Build #5 (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3506525&postcount=2502)
Workshop / Detailing Studio Build #5 - 2 (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3506526&postcount=2503)
Workshop / Detailing Studio Build #6 (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3511033&postcount=2515)
Workshop / Detailing Studio Build #6 - 2 (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3514826&postcount=2518)
Workshop / Detailing Studio Build #7 (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3518775&postcount=2526)
PROJECT: THE NEXT STEP
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ARL Cylinder Head - Purchased (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?p=3298803&posted=1#post3298803)
ARL Blueprinted, Ported and Polished Cylinder Head (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3336631&postcount=2316)
H&R Cup Kit Suspension
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I originally was going to go for Koni FSDs with Eibach springs as I was worried about the ride comfort with the coilover route. I also read that KoniFSD's gave around a 20mm drop which is about the drop I wanted anyway. However Koni sent AmD the wrong set TWICE! so not to waste my time further AmD stated that they had the H&R Cup Kit (with a good discount) in which is every bit as good and in their opinion better than the Koni FSD route.
Being skeptical I contacted a few well known members/friends on here and they confirmed that the H&R Kit was an amazing bit of kit. I stated various concerns to AmD and they offered to fit these at a discounted price and if I was not happy they will fit the KoniFSDs & Eibachs as per original order for free. They also said they would fit my Green Panel Filter and Dogbone mounts for free too!
Results: I am so happy with the H&Rs that I didn't even want to try to KoniFSDs. To get a second opinion I drove to Slick's place and we took the car round a myriad of roundabouts...needless to say Slick was very impressed as well. I'd like to thank AmD for a good service!
www.hrsuspension.co.uk
H&R Cup Kit Part No: HR-31-017-2
Before
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/Mods05072007/stdfr1.jpg
Just to prove the nose is not pointing down
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/Mods05072007/modfr13.JPG
http://i282.photobucket.com/albums/kk253/jonjay_uk/AmDRRday074.jpg
Exhaust
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Quite well know that a mufflerectomy is a cheap and good mod for the TDI. Took my car to Pipecraft in Basildon. Good little workshop which came highly recommended. I basically asked for a for a de-muffler pipe, it removes the backbox with just a straight though pipe. You also get to pick a shaped tip of your own choice so I choice an Oval tip (LCR style) to give a more OE look.
Results: The sound the car now gives is truly amazing! A real night and day difference. I also noticed that it has freed up a few extra horses. The car is more free revving and has not problem revving up to 4.5k rpm without the power suddenly tailing off. I also noticed how much more soot comes out, bottom lip after driving a mile or two got dirty already.
For anyone who wants the same done:
www.pipecraft.biz
Pipecraft
23 Orion Court
Cranes Farm Road
Basildon
Essex
SS14 3DB
Telephone 01268 285535
Fax on: 01268 285535
Pics:
Picture of the shaped Tip and the H&R spring and dampener...all that rain made them dirty :(
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/Mods05072007/modfr1.jpg
Old backbox being taken off
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/Mods05072007/modfr2.jpg
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/Mods05072007/modfr3.jpg
And the end results
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/Mods05072007/modfr4.jpg
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/Mods05072007/modfr7.jpg
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/Mods05072007/modfr8.jpg
Brakes
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After a lot of research I decided to purchase that doing the 312mm brake conversion was the way forward. I finally chose the following:
ATE Powerdiscs ATE Part No. 24.0325.0123
EuroCarParts Part No: 926440280 eurocarparts.com
312mm calliper carriers: from vagparts.com
Ferodo DS2500's: FCP590H from badger-5.com
I heard a lot of good things about the PowerDiscs and the price for the pair was quite reasonable. DS2500s is a forum favourite and feeling the stopping power in Slicks car there really was no other option!
Results:
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/Mods05072007/modfr6.jpg
As you can see the callipers need painting when the weather decides to be nice for a change.
Other mods
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Few other mods I done were debadged back. Left the Leon and TDI badge there as I want people to know it is a TDI and not trying to be something its not. I know we have argued about this on many occasions. Oh and the good old Fabia rear wiper is as good as ever.
Debadged back and Fabia wiper:
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/Mods05072007/modfr9.jpg
Splitter took a good hour for put on. When my friend and I were preping the splitter we decided to chop off (flatten) the lugs so the splitter is flat on the bumper. This took most of our time but was well worth it.
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/Mods05072007/modfr5.jpg
Final little mod was the tax disc holder...:funk:
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/Mods05072007/modfr10.jpg
InfernalBadger
05-07-2007, 12:53
Looks very nice.
I'm definitely going to be going the 312mm brakes route when I have the money/need to replace the discs. Wouldn't mind mine lowered, but might just get some springs and keep the standard shocks because I only really drive on motorways :D
Don't agree about the TDI badge, but then mine has never had one. Infact it just has a spaced out L E O N below the seat badge. Looks nice a clean. :)
How much did it cost for the full brake upgrade if you don't mind?
The whole brake upgrade cost around £350 but the price went up because of the PowerDiscs and brake pads. You can shop of like 100 quid by getting standard Audi S3 discs and Mintex Extreme pads which is quite good aswell.
Looking good!
You have done several of the mods I am planning.
Definetly need to come down to have a look at your car sometime soon.
stuart86
05-07-2007, 13:52
i want a bigger brake set up
looking good mate :)
Looking good!
You have done several of the mods I am planning.
Definetly need to come down to have a look at your car sometime soon.
Yea Olaf please do come down. Just let me know in advance then I can clear the diary :)
i want a bigger brake set up
looking good mate :)
Cheers Stuart.
Still got a lot of mods to do!
Updated the Posts with Part No's so if anyone wants to do something similar.
Looks good mate, ive done the same with the badging looks good
On the pic with it lowered has the back settled any more as from pic seems abit high?
I quite fancy doing the brake upgrade but my account over rules and says no :cartman:
The back is slightly higher because engine is at the front of course. Only way your going to stop that is if you get coilovers and a spirit level.
Have you got any sound clips for the exhaust?
I will try and take some over the weekend and post them up.
Cheers. Your car is looking good
Does look good! tbh I think I'd have stuck with the twin pipe set up with that bumper but thats just my opinion... have been meaning to get one of those tax disc holders myself :D
Does look good! tbh I think I'd have stuck with the twin pipe set up with that bumper but thats just my opinion... have been meaning to get one of those tax disc holders myself :D
I think the Oval pipe makes it look more purposeful. Anyway the sound and performance gains from it are great.
Cheers for yesterday Maz, and to Rodger aswell!
The exhaust sounds good, definetly a worthwhile mod. Plus as you say it seems to have unleashed a little bit more.
Hope you have got over the disapointment of BBT only having one set of ARBs :lol:
Rodgers car on the other hand is something else:D:D:D
Cheers for yesterday Maz, and to Rodger aswell!
The exhaust sounds good, definetly a worthwhile mod. Plus as you say it seems to have unleashed a little bit more.
Hope you have got over the disappointment of BBT only having one set of ARBs :lol:
Rodgers car on the other hand is something else:D:D:D
Your very welcome Ollie, it was great to meet you - was quite a good laugh actually. The look on your face when we went round the roundabout was so funny :lol:
Anytime you want to do it again, you got my number give me a shout.
I will never forgive Rodger when we were at BBT haha! I still cant believe they only had one set, I was so ready to get it! Rodger has kindly given me the part number so I know what exactly I am to buy now anyway.
One for the album:
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/slickscarondrive.jpg
UncleFester
08-07-2007, 21:56
Watching a set of Ferodo DS2500 at the moment matey, front and rear pads .... will know if i've won soon :) They just happen to be the same part numbers as you've had fitted so cheers for putting the numbers in the post :)
Once I realised I wasnt going to die it was fine, hopefully just had a massive grin on my face?! :p
Certainly a few steps up from my car is the Slick-mobile!!
Will be in touch with you and/or Rodger about where to go with my car!
Even if all you two did was make the shopping list longer and longer haha! :cry:
Dont meation it...
Glad i made another believer of modding TDi's...
Again sorry for taking that last set of ARBs from BBT, but i gotta say
THEY ARE SO GOOD!!!!!
My car with all the suspension mods and the ARBs, its near impossible to get the car to tilt more then a couple degrees, now i slide in my chair instead of tip, i hope for some more dry weather so i can really give it some wellies!!!
So anymore takers to going around the magic roundabout in the TDi.. HAHAHA
UncleFester
09-07-2007, 11:32
No but i'll have a bloody good go at following your crazy ass ;)
Pat, you really need to come down and have a little trip out in the car, your be really surprised on how much grip my car has now... Ollie was and well maz still smiles when he sees me approaching a roundabout, and thats even when hes following me... lol
I've got to go to BBT on saturday, if you can, have a trip down.. i think Maz might be going down to, as well hes looking at a set of H&R ARBs now...
So what you recon Pat?
EDIT: Thinking of it, really need to have a little test, get a standard-ish TDi try and follow led on a roundabout or maybe a track day to see what excately, in real time/distance, it makes all the mod's i've done...
UncleFester
09-07-2007, 12:10
As long as i can get the house move sorted .... i'll let you know :)
As long as i can get the house move sorted .... i'll let you know :)
Cool, well Pm your number pat, just so if you do have a trip down that i can get in touch! :D
Sounds interesting... :)
So are you gettin the H&Rs on saturday? ;):whistle:
I know i'm going to BBT saturday as the steering hasnt settle straight, so needs sorting!
So are you gettin the H&Rs on saturday? ;):whistle:
I know i'm going to BBT saturday as the steering hasnt settle straight, so needs sorting!
I am trying to decide whether my wallet can take it....i am so tempted its untrue! I'll come down anyway tbh.
UncleFester
09-07-2007, 15:16
Mine hasn't settled straight since the new bushes went on, i'll be taking mine to PMC in MK for a Beissbarth alignment, that's who inde-tech are reccomending.
Yeah well, as you know Pat, its not like you can ignore it, the steering wheel is infront of you and if it aint straight, you feel ackward driving it... so sorting it saturday!
Edit:MAZ
You better make your mind up if you want them, as they will need ordering in to have them this week i know...
Yeah well, as you know Pat, its not like you can ignore it, the steering wheel is infront of you and if it aint straight, you feel ackward driving it... so sorting it saturday!
Edit:MAZ
You better make your mind up if you want them, as they will need ordering in to have them this week i know...
Yea I know Slick...see if they had them that day I wouldnt have done it without question...now i am like can i spare that money.
ARGH :D
UncleFester
09-07-2007, 16:00
Are you from Deepest Yorkshire Maz?
Are you from Deepest Yorkshire Maz?
You lost me lol :)
UncleFester
09-07-2007, 16:11
Just with you appearing to be a bit tight fisted and all :p
Just with you appearing to be a bit tight fisted and all :p
:cartman:
No Maz aint like that, i just think he likes to think every thing thou before jumping...
me, like the car... throw it in as fast as i can...:funk:
:lol:
Tight fisted PAT??!! haha :) I have spent nearly 1.5k on the car already in 2 months! and I still got my bushes, arbs, clutch, remap, diff, tints, ICE system, mod here and there..... hehe :)
UncleFester
09-07-2007, 18:46
:lol:
Tight fisted PAT??!! haha :) I have spent nearly 1.5k on the car already in 2 months! and I still got my bushes, arbs, clutch, remap, diff, tints, ICE system, mod here and there..... hehe :)
Hehehe just kidding, you know you want the ARB though ;) One step closer to mechanical mecca :cartman:
Purchased TT Pedals (£30 including delivered) as I didn't fancy spending 60 quid for R32 pedals.
Part No:
TT RHD Acc. pedal: 8N2721647B
TT Brake pedal: 8N0721173A
TT clutch pedal: 8N0721174A01C
Company
www.vagparts.co.uk
Must be noted on Pabs guide he stated that the acc. pedal was too big for the metal pedal. I found this to be inaccurate as mine was a nice fit. In fact the rubber on the TT pedal is a little stretched at the top so it on pretty good.
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/GeneralMods/TTpedals14072007.jpg
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/GeneralMods/TTpedals214072007.jpg
P.S. Unclefester...I didn't have to buy glue in the end hehe!
UncleFester
15-07-2007, 01:15
Get a better pic taken ..... they look like they'll look quite smart, subtle addition to the interior. Was really funny seeing the colour difference between the two cars, that's something i've not noticed till now.
Better pictures now up. Hmmm from my hours of cleaning missed the drivers footwell argh!
Anti Roll Bars
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Having done the suspension and getting a good set of tyres to match, there was always something missing. I noticed it more especially since I had the pleasure of being driven in probably the best two Leon TDIs on this forum - Slick (Rodger) and Unclefester (Pat).
When going around roundabouts and long sweeping bends the car was losing traction sooner and more sudden than Slicks and Festers. The reasons for this were that more weight where going on the outside tires and less weight on the inside tyres which caused the car to lose/reduce traction suddenly.
Results
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Traction, Stability and predictability!
First thing you notice when you drive off is how much more stable the car is when turning. When the car was standard, I showed Pat the limit of the car when coming off the exit of a large round about. As Pat described it, "the cars rear end wanted to play games". With the ARBs on the same exit and same bend the car was so much more controlled, predictable and glued to the road! I was like WOW they actually do make a difference.
I simply cannot believe how essential the ARBs are to the Leon!
Part No
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Eibach ARB Kit 25mm 40-85-005-01-11
http://eibach.com
Pictures
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Car when being lifted up before surgary (she was scared as you can see)
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/GeneralMods/LeonFRARBS2.JPG
Old front ARB doesnt look upto much
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/GeneralMods/LeonFRARBS3.JPG
Thicker Eibach front Eibach Arb looks purposeful
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/GeneralMods/LeonFRARBS4.JPG
Rear ARB (excuse the weeds - weed killer will sort those :) )
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/GeneralMods/LeonFRARBS7.JPG
sheffboy
19-08-2007, 12:49
Jonjay. how's the ride with the H&R kit on? would be really intrested to know as i was going to take the FSD route next month.
Where i live the roads are terrible and i'm sick of the standard set up bouncing and crashing over the potholes. Does the new setup feel more controlled over the rough stuff?
Hi Sheffboy with the H&Rs on there own without the Anti Roll Bar Kit they are superb over the bumps on the road as they dampen them really well. However if you are looking for more of a smoother ride the FSD's may be better for you.
sheffboy
19-08-2007, 13:18
Thanks for the advice mate.
Nothing worse than spending your hard earned then realising it was a mistake. :(
Many thanks.
Thanks for the advice mate.
Nothing worse than spending your hard earned then realising it was a mistake. :(
Many thanks.
I love H&R and everyone knows I preach by them however if your in an area that has really crap roads and even the standard suspension is annoying you then the more sporty / better handling H&Rs probably arn't the best option over the FSDs.
daveyonthemove
19-08-2007, 18:53
Have any of you Super TDI boys got sound clips of the mufflerectomy?
I'm eying up some Tips (oval shape seems nicest) and wondering what silencer to go for. All help appreciated.
Dave
I will try and get you some sound clip soon Davey.
daveyonthemove
20-08-2007, 05:32
I will try and get you some sound clip soon Davey.
Cheers matey.
Unclefester had one up, and so did i I'm sure actually, I'll try and find it?
daveyonthemove
20-08-2007, 11:45
Cheers Slick.
Pat PM'd me a link to his so i will check it out when i'm on my home PC. If you don't mind putting a link for yours too, that would be great.
Dave
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=mufflerectomy&search=Search
Quite a few results here.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v343/rodgerh99/th_MOV00001-1.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v343/rodgerh99/?action=view¤t=MOV00001-1.flv)
Theres mine!
EDIT:
Photobucket has removed the sound! DOH!
Would be good to show what sound difference is between CAI and Standard Airbox with Panel Filter. Slick next time your round mine or we meet somewhere i'll remind you so you can record it on your phone.
Would be good to show what sound difference is between CAI and Standard Airbox with Panel Filter. Slick next time your round mine or we meet somewhere i'll remind you so you can record it on your phone.
Yes Sir!:D
Only thing is, its really hard to get the sound to record at an audiable level on the camera!
Although i can catch the idle "Darth Vader" effect pretty well from the front grill!! :starwars:
daveyonthemove
21-08-2007, 12:44
Cheers guys,
I'll have a look/listen to them when i get home tonight. Looking to book mine in for the exhaust upgrade next month, so now's the time to start doing some homework on it.
Dave
Leather Care
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Steering wheel started to get a little "used" to my liking. I have previously been applying Autoglym leather cleaner and cream however never really been that impressed. My dad a long time ago purchased some very expensive leather restorer from QVC and remembered the amazing results so I went searching for something similar.
In Tesco's whilst doing my weekly shop, I came across Lord Sheraton Leather Balsam. It was £2 quid and thought "feck it" if its crap its crap...To my surprise its done an amazing job! Really has cleaned and restored the leather on the steering wheel and gearstick very well!
HIGH RECOMMENDED....also used it on some white trainers and worked a treat :)
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/leatherbalm.jpg
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/leathercloth.jpg
Just an update, yes on the cloth that is dirt! I thought it was the leather losing its colour but it isnt...
I had the pleasure of going on a rolling road with 24 SCN members on Saturday at Rapid Chariots in Kent . I met up with 6 members at lakeside and we all embarked on quite a fun road trip meeting the rest on J6 M2.
I must say the drive on the B roads to Rapid Chariots was so so fun! :) However the drive back on the narrowest country roads i ever been on was scary!
There was quite mixed results on the rollers there so by no means am I saying my figures are accurate (dyno lottery). I always though the only way your going to get a half decent figure is if you go to 3 different RR's and take an average. You can go to Rototest VPA-R dyno system which will give you very accurate results which i may just do once I am remapped. That costs £100 for an hour so wont be any time soon.
Here are the results:
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/RapidChariots10132007/RapidChariots-RR-13102007.JPG
daveyonthemove
14-10-2007, 13:07
Looks like a good powerfull run. Is it standard engine?
Looks like a good powerfull run. Is it standard engine?
Yes standard engine with just an air filter and exhaust. Just hope when I get the car mapped it will yield good results.
Lower Strut Brace
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Finally got round to ordering and fitting the Audi S3 lower strut brace that is also fitted to the Leon Cupra R as standard. Part codes are already on Pabs sticky in the Leon MK1 section.
Took around 45 minutes to install mainly because the car is pretty low so scissor jack was required. Results are good although the difference is not a vast one. I tested the car round a few roundabouts/nice turns turns and then Slick did the same. We both agreed its made a small nice improvement, the car just felt tighter and more planted on the road.
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/LowerStrutBrace/DSCF0061.jpg
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/LowerStrutBrace/DSCF0062.jpg
Xenon HIDs and Side Lights
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Installed my Xenon 6000K HID Kit and Xenon 6 Head LED side lights two weeks back. Night and day difference over the old lights! I noticed you get a nice even spread with them and they really do light up the signs at night so much more than usual. As yet I haven't been flashed by any driver. I do recommend getting the alignment checked in case it is wrong.
Ebay shop I purchased these from are:
diane-shop (http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/diane-shop)
warden_jp2002 (http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/warden_jp2002/)
Special thanks to BCM for the heads up on the HID kit!
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/HIDs/DSCF0091.jpg
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/HIDs/DSCF0089.jpg
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/HIDs/DSCF0095.jpg
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/HIDs/DSCF0094.jpg
UncleFester
05-11-2007, 19:53
Nice and smart that Maz :)
Cheers Pat :)
I just need to sort out the indicators and fogs...Any suggestions for the fogs?
UncleFester
05-11-2007, 20:29
Fogs .... i'd leave them alone unless you want LED bulbs in so you can drive round with them on all the time without annoying people but that defeats the point of having them :)
Fogs .... i'd leave them alone unless you want LED bulbs in so you can drive round with them on all the time without annoying people but that defeats the point of having them :)
Yes thats what everyone has said...i just want all one colour and fogs same colour that work..seems that isnt possible or is it? Going to have to look around.
UncleFester
05-11-2007, 20:33
You'll struggle to get halogen fogs to match the HID - J@mes has put HID in his fogs which is easy enough to do - just not something i'd do. I'd HID the main beams first which is where i'm going next and leave the fogs alone :)
Very nice mate :D
Like the HID's and sidelights - same as mine :)
In Car Entertainment
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Got a little bit fed up of the standard Aura unit. Fact that it couldn't play MP3s really bugged me! Came down to two choices really, buy a Becker unit with Bluetooth or just a Becker Unit without bluetooth!
Purchased this beauty from a SCN memeber, a_waugh for a fair price. Came within 3 days and straight into the car the next day!
Sound quality is out of this world. Really does bring the best out of the Leon speakers which imo are pretty good. Crystal clear sound and clean bass, thumbs up!
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/BeckerMexicoPro/Becker1.jpg
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/BeckerMexicoPro/Becker2.jpg
Oh forgot to say matches perfectly in the car.
UncleFester
20-11-2007, 18:58
I am considering ditching the JVC in mine and going for something like this, does it come with front, rear and sub outputs Maz?
I am considering ditching the JVC in mine and going for something like this, does it come with front, rear and sub outputs Maz?
Indeed it does Pat.
You know what the great thing is aswell...it looks so standard that no one has noticed I changed the unit in the car!
Looking good matey.
Glad your happy with it. Looks cracking in there.
Cant wait till i get my new one in. Im back to the standard one at the moment. 1 week to go.
Thanks again mate! I am guessing your unit is going to be the dogs bolloxs? :)
It better be or im not going to be chuffed. :lol:
Full DVD/Digital TV/Bluetooth Double DIN unit. Should be good when in. The cars away next week getting done. ;)
Rolling Road 2
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Just had my second rolling road. It seems that my first RR was pretty accurate. The car has exhaust, Panel filter and no remap...Opinions welcome!
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/SuperchipsRR.jpg
Update picture to a clearer one sent by Superchips themselves. :)
I can read that one now! :)
Good results mate! :D
I can read that one now! :)
Good results mate! :D
Cheers mate! Quite please that its running that with no remap. I will hold off the remap now till the clutch and diff are in place...then get new turbo and map at same time.
Watch this space!
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/GeneralMods/B4Console.JPG
stuart86
14-12-2007, 15:27
looking good
i love reading up on other leon updates :D
It isn't drying because its sooo cold! So i have put news papers next to my radiotor. Spray the in garage and bring to the hall way. Think my dog is getting high on the fumes!
Halfords colour match isn't as good as I hoped...we'll see when the product is finished.
Took spray paint back to halfords as they completely cocked up the colour. Install of Plat Grey it was more like black...Went to another halfords and got someone else to make up the paint. Looks more like it should although still darker than I imagined it would come out
Here is what it looks like with seven coats of spray...still to add another 3-4 coats after I sand it down again. Then its the lacquer stage to make it nice and glossy!
Looks darker than the standard one.
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/GeneralMods/console7coats1.JPG
Close up, as you can see it still needs smoothing off.
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/GeneralMods/console7coats2.JPG
Husbandofstinky
15-12-2007, 19:25
You didn't get too much overspray!
Interesting thread Jonjay.
I like the head unit - blends in so well. :)
Cheers mate.
Sanded it down lightly again and given it another three coats. Hopefully that will be the end of it and I can get down to lacquering.
Just put around 6-7 light coats of lacquer. This is how it is shaping up. Will probably put another 5-6 tonight until I am happy with the look.
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/GeneralMods/cconsolelacquer1.JPG
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/GeneralMods/cconsolelacquer2.JPG
Custom Centre Console
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Finally finished! Half a can of Platinum Grey spray and a whole can of lacquer and here are the results.
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/GeneralMods/centreconsolefinished.jpg
And here are the products used to make it all nice and shiny ready to go in the car.
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/GeneralMods/centreconsoleproducts.jpg
Next time you see it will be when it is in the car. Oh and if anyone has a Leon gear shift surround please let me know!
UncleFester
20-12-2007, 22:48
I like that Maz - it's a bit less 'in your face' than the stock silver trim.
Yea i like it too.
Its a little too shiny to take a good picture of it, a little to dark too, and the metalic bits make it look like it is grainy instead of silky smooth....Next picture will be when it is in the car so hopefully will show it off better.
H&R Cup Kit Part No: HR-31-017-2
Before
http://mariossergides.co.uk/www/LeonFR/Mods05072007/stdfr1.jpg
After
http://mariossergides.co.uk/www/LeonFR/Mods05072007/modfr12.jpg
Maz,
I've PM'd AMD about the kit and that. Just wondering from looking at your pics if it sits flat now, as that looks very nose down mate?
R
Its the angle of the picture that makes it look a lot worse than it is. In person there is hardly anything in it but it is slightly lower.
Only explanation i have for that is that being a diesel the engine is heavier. I did query this with AMD and various other people. They say some kits are designed to do that.
UncleFester
26-12-2007, 21:56
Or you just fit loads of stuff in the boot and it sits level :)
must admit from old man pats pics im leaning towards eibach shocks and springs
UncleFester
27-12-2007, 07:53
Don't forget i've probably got about 80kg of mdf, amps and speakers in the back of mine Rik - that might be why it sits just that little bit lower at the back?
hmm an interesting point patrick
cheers
watch this space as i've got a wheel alteration coming as well..
Whatever decision you make whether H&R or Eibach you wont regret. Pats car does sit ever so slightly lower btw. we are talking like 5mm from observation. Then again as Pat said...he has full ICE system.
stuart86
27-12-2007, 09:34
hmm an interesting point patrick
cheers
watch this space as i've got a wheel alteration coming as well..
OR go for coilovers like me and you can choose your own ride hieght :D
OR go for coilovers like me and you can choose your own ride hieght :D
If your not bothered about how hard the ride is!! :)
stuart86
27-12-2007, 10:04
If your not bothered about how hard the ride is!! :)
very true
it can be a bit of a hard ride, but that was something i was willing to put up with.
anyway im going a bit off topic here lol
what are the next plans for the car maz?
Well i just bought myself a Cupra R gear knob....just now...literally.
Plans for next year
1) Allards piping
2) EGR wingnut mod in January
3) Smooth airbox
4) New clutch that can take around 230-250bhp
5) Big turbo and remap
6) LED lights all round inside
7) Cupra R gear shift with Custom surround
8) Custom centre console as per thread
9) Custom air vents.
This i can financially just about do i think. Depends on how big of a pay rise i get as to whether i got for as I am due a big one.
New alloys
Big Brakes (will have to if i get new turbo)
Custom Retrim.
EDIT: get your pictures of up your motor mate...been waiting for them!
stuart86
27-12-2007, 10:54
nice little list there
whats the EGR wingnut all about? more info please :D
I havent had a chance to take any pics, im back at work lol and its been crap weather around here :(
I promise i will get some good pics up as soon as posible.. i need some for my own portfolio anyway.
EGR mod is to remove the plunger in the EGR valve, block the hole and smooth the inside. This is a good alternative to getting a egr race pipe that brings up a CEL value. The "wingnut" mod wont.
UncleFester
27-12-2007, 11:38
Plus it retains the ASV function so that your engine won't go into meltdown mode if the turbo oil seals go :)
Personally i'd try and get a hold of a complete EGR assembly so you can keep your own unmolested, one with a seized EGR would be ideal :)
nah cant really justify coilovers with the amount of miles i do
id live to regret getting them
stuart86
27-12-2007, 11:42
nah cant really justify coilovers with the amount of miles i do
id live to regret getting them
my car is my daily drive... i do 1000's miles
get some more comfy seats lol
Plus it retains the ASV function so that your engine won't go into meltdown mode if the turbo oil seals go :)
Personally i'd try and get a hold of a complete EGR assembly so you can keep your own unmolested, one with a seized EGR would be ideal :)
Ah yes...but I sourced two egr valves for £60 quid each...one went to rodger and one went to me. So i will have my orginal one intact when i went to get rid of the car...some day.
UncleFester
27-12-2007, 12:22
heh well prepared - what you waiting for then :)
heh well prepared - what you waiting for then :)
January 2008 :)
Got the customer centre console and my LCR gear knob in the car today. Installing the centre console was a piece of cake as it only has 4 screws securing it. I am quite please with the look and I think if I done it again the finish of the console would have been a lot better. Might redo it if I get the time come summer.
The Cupra R gear knob is also in. It is a 210 version as the sides are not a different leather and "dotted" like the 225 version. I didnt swap the leather for the silver thread as it looked quite good matching all the red dials and red Leon mats. I also decided against painting the custom surround plat grey like the centre console as I quite like the black matt finish.
I might even get the LCR handbrake cover so that matches too now :)
Let me know your thoughts!
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/GeneralMods/cconsoleincar.jpg
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/GeneralMods/cconsoleincar2.jpg
Oh and I had a quick look at my air filter, no leaves or debris so i was quite happy as it has done 4k since i put it in last summer.
UncleFester
05-01-2008, 16:02
That's really subtle and looks good too - nice job matey.
Thank you, its growing on me. Just got to get myself a cupra r handbrake cover.
AdamRoutley
06-01-2008, 13:13
is that the black centre console parts? like in the LCR? cant really tell because of the flash on the camera but it looks good..was considering doing the same on mine..do you still have the part numbers? and how much did it cost matey?
daveyonthemove
06-01-2008, 13:22
I like that.
Its a nice subtle change, but suits it well.
I really have no clue what part number it is however I purchased my one off a SCN member. I have seen them on German ebay and on rare occasion the UK ebay. This centre console was from a normal cupra i believe however all of them are the same.
Console cost me 8 quid and the spray paint, lacquer and sand paper was like £20.
£84 quid from Seat for an LCR handbrake cover!! :confused:
Seat-Leon.de to the rescue (http://www.seat-leon.de/shop/seatleon/index.php?cPath=33)
Well kind of.....
Cupra R Handbrake Cover 85 euros - so about 60 quid or theres a plain black leather one on there for 30 euros.
Black centre consoley part - 23 euros or silver for 17!
Not sure what the postage costs are like though.
Seat-Leon.de to the rescue (http://www.seat-leon.de/shop/seatleon/index.php?cPath=33)
Well kind of.....
Cupra R Handbrake Cover 85 euros - so about 60 quid or theres a plain black leather one on there for 30 euros.
Black centre consoley part - 23 euros or silver for 17!
Not sure what the postage costs are like though.
Thanks for that but still £60 quid! Add another £10 for postage to UK...£70!!?? I cant believe that is so expensive. The leather one looks nice but I want it to go with my cupra R Gearknob.
I must have got mine back when they changed the prices!
Don't know what Ebay Handbrake (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SEAT-LEON-OR-IBIZA-CORDOBA-BLACK-GEAR-HANDBRAKE-GAITER_W0QQitemZ230209672631QQihZ013QQcategoryZ72224QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) is like. Got 100% feedback and seem to have sold a reasonable number of items.
As you say the Seat prices are a bit expensive! Think I will end up with the one without the red stitching.
Unfortunately Ollie, those gear gaiter dont have the plastic spine to fix to the handbrake stalk and the leather is the wrong colour and design shape to fit in, unfortuantely to fit the leon and to blend in as an OE piece nothing subs for the OE part!
I'm glad someone knows what they are talking about :D
Indicators
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Wanted to get rid of that fried egg effect from the front and rear as it looks really dated when you see that imo. I was going to replace them with Silvertecs however I always been a fan of Osram products and having seen Diadem Osram Indicators, they look very unusual and unique. Let me know what you think!
Fried Egg Effect
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/GeneralMods/Friedegg.jpg
Diadems Indicators
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/GeneralMods/diademrear.jpg
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/GeneralMods/diademrear2.jpg
I fitted one of the fronts and was struggling with the second because the Derv battery is just so big and very little space to work with. Also rain didn't help!
Have to say mate looks fantastic, I am looking to get h&r kit do you have any issues with catching the car on ramps in car parks etc..
very very sweet matey, i need to get some of those indicators
Have to say mate looks fantastic, I am looking to get h&r kit do you have any issues with catching the car on ramps in car parks etc..
I dont have issues with catching ramps but saying that you do have to be careful in general. I have been caught out twice due to lack of concentration on my part.
stuart86
10-01-2008, 09:46
i lossened the clamp on the battery and just shiffted it over a bit
looking good mate :D
Looks great i will def be follwoing you with some of yor mods at least, did you find that you were getting loads of smoke witht the new exhaust that's the only thing that would worry me
hughes86
10-01-2008, 18:01
how much the exhaust system cost as ive got a cupra tdi too and looking for a more origonal cupra r look
i lossened the clamp on the battery and just shiffted it over a bit
looking good mate :D
Cheers mate glad to see a fellow modder appreciate ones work!
I might have to do that, going to have another go come Saturday when the weather is better.
Looks great i will def be follwoing you with some of yor mods at least, did you find that you were getting loads of smoke witht the new exhaust that's the only thing that would worry me
Thank you :)
Dont get anymore/less smoke with the exhaust than when stock. I think using V-Power has made the biggest difference to smoke, far less soot than before.
Hughes86 - the Exhaust cost me £100 all in.
hughes86
10-01-2008, 19:25
thats good did u ave t get it specially made and is it just a backbox or straight through exhaust?
It does say all the information in the write up did mate.
Removal of backbox and straight through to CAT.
Audi S3 Upper Strut Brace
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Upper strut brace has now been fitted. It really should have been one of my first mods but for some reason I forgot about it until recently. Draw back to the S3 strut on the dervs is that the engine cover has to be squeezed underneath it which will call a lot of vibration. I did expect this to happen and I already know what I have to do to mod the cover and get it back on. See red arrow of where I have to cut it.
The strut itself looks very OE in the engine bay. When I first took the car out I immediately noticed how the car reacted to bumps and uneven road surfaces. It was much better and the car drives much smoother. Turn in has definitely improved and when hitting corners and roundabouts at speed the car is so solid and composed. Due to me having suspension, arbs, lower strut and good rubber before I have the strut i initially thought it didn't make much difference. However at speed you can really notice that's its on hence i will say this mod is compulsory if you got everything else done!
S3 strut brace
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/GeneralMods/s3upperstrut.JPG
Engine cover underneath the cargo net and in front of my SEAT boot tidy :) The red line showing where I am going to cut it to fit.
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/GeneralMods/covernetcargo.JPG
Front OSRAM Diadem indicators
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Here are some pictures showing the indicator on the front. Front passenger one was a ******* to fit but thanks to Slick who met me at AMD Technik, he assisted me to get it on. the picture face on is showing how in different light conditions you get a nice blue reflection.
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/GeneralMods/frontosramindicator.JPG
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/GeneralMods/frontosramindicator2.JPG
Right some progress updates
Friday, JAN 18th 2008 - AMD Remap Stage 2.
Saturday, JAN 19th 2008 - Ordering £236 worth of LED bulbs for exterior and interior for 4 cars as bulk buying saves sh!t load of money . Slicks (Black FR), Meeee (Grey LCR), Soundwave (Black 1.8T) and me jonjay (Plat FR).
March 2008 - Service and potentially Sachs Organic Clutch kit depending on how mine holds up.
stuart86
17-01-2008, 10:39
good to see the front indicators in now :D
car is looking good.. im seriously thinking about the straight through exhaust from cat if i dont get a good price on a milltek!
AMD Stage 1 remap done :D
Full review of it later this weekend!
daveyonthemove
18-01-2008, 14:15
Looking forward to your opinions :)
AMD Technik stage 1 remap
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Day 1: Arrived 09:30am at AMD Technik where I was greeted by Shaun (the owner). I originally requested a Stage 2 remap however Shaun said it was only worth going for a stage two if I got rid of the CAT and had a Miltek 2.50" downpipe to go with it. With diesels there seems to be mixed opinions on whether getting rid of the CAT actually makes any difference unless the car is very tuned i.e. big turbo. We both agreed in the end a Stage 1 will suffice for now and if i feel that i should get rid of the CAT to progress then he will put on the stage 2 for free.
Shaun showed me the before and after results. Biggest thing i noticed was the increase in torque in nearly all gears. Plant your fit down in second and you get an almighty shove in the back followed by wheel spin. The rain of course didn't help the wheel spin but once you got traction the car was quite happy to red line with no noticeable loss in power. The delivery is very smooth BUT aggressive which was why i chose AMD. I found the REVO map too aggressive low down and runs out at the end of the rev range to quickly.
The ECU is still to adapt so i will give another mini review by Sunday once it has settled and the full benifits are clear. The only downside so far is my fuel economy seems to have suffered is it because i kept putting my foot down? :)
Like the Osram indicators in the front lights mate! Did the rears on mine a year ago but haven't got round to fitting the fronts yet... may just have to happen when I fit my HID's :)
Good job on the remap! :)
Thanks for the comments guys :)
AMD Technik stage 1 remap
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Day 2: Oh my god has the ECU adjusted, The car is an absolute beast now! There is bags of instant power in nearly every gear. I must admit i fear for my clutches life however I have decided that soon as it starts to slip I am getting it replaced straight away. There isnt really much else to say apart from that I am very very happy with it!
daveyonthemove
19-01-2008, 21:55
Thanks for the comments guys :)
AMD Technik stage 1 remap
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Day 2: Oh my god has the ECU adjusted, The car is an absolute beast now! There is bags of instant power in nearly every gear. I must admit i fear for my clutches life however I have decided that soon as it starts to slip I am getting it replaced straight away. There isnt really much else to say apart from that I am very very happy with it!
I had a sneaky feeling you might be pleased with it. Should improve more still over the next day or so :D
Wish you had it done sooner? :p
I had a sneaky feeling you might be pleased with it. Should improve more still over the next day or so :D
Wish you had it done sooner? :p
Just went on a 45minute run and I am very very pleased with it Dave. Car feels transformed, the words sh!t load of torque springs to mind. As for getting it done earlier...yes and no. I think i appreciated the car for what it was when it was standard and I liked seeing the progression of things when i started modding. The remap is just the next step in a long list :)
I was worried that I would feel much of a difference as my car was up from standard power figures but how wrong i was!
UncleFester
19-01-2008, 23:00
Up from standard power on different rollers - the difference is what you feel, not what the numbers say :) I think mine feels a bit flat of late although maybe i'm just used to it. Then i look down at the speedo and realise it's still doing what it should be :)
Very true Pat.
Car feels great at the moment though i did notice this odd noise, which only happened twice in an hour of driving. I am not sure whether it is the turbo, DV, exhaust yet but when cruising at 30-40mph and just sitting on the turbo then lifting off i get like a dump from the turbo, exhaust but it sorta does it like 2-3 times in succession? The car doesnt judder or any sort of loss of power, doesnt do it if your going fast...It sort sounds like the DV is dumping more air but not in 1 lot but in 3 small lots....any ideas?
the best colour IMO
great list of mods
Thank you - hopefully I got LCR wheels soon to at to the mod list. Going to customise them so that they look unique.
UncleFester
24-01-2008, 15:58
Very true Pat.
Car feels great at the moment though i did notice this odd noise, which only happened twice in an hour of driving. I am not sure whether it is the turbo, DV, exhaust yet but when cruising at 30-40mph and just sitting on the turbo then lifting off i get like a dump from the turbo, exhaust but it sorta does it like 2-3 times in succession? The car doesnt judder or any sort of loss of power, doesnt do it if your going fast...It sort sounds like the DV is dumping more air but not in 1 lot but in 3 small lots....any ideas?
I don't know in truth, mine does it, it did it more after the remap and even more when i got the exhaust hacked - i think it's just that you can hear it more due to the extra 'stuff' the remap does ( note the really technical term used there) hehe
Should be getting my LCR alloys courtesy of porki at 6pm tonight. Will give them a good clean and polish tonight and post some pictures. Then its next month of getting them refurbed and customised. I also need to see what state the tyres are in as to whether they need to be changed.
Porki kindly delivered the LCR alloys as stated previously. Porki is truly a top bloke! Had a good chat about the cars and what mods we are planning. Pleasure doing business with and hope to see him at a meet soon!
Here are the wheels prior to me cleaning them. As you can see they are scratched but this is not an issue at all as they will be getting refurbed. Also there was some very stubborn dirt, brake dust on the alloys...i had to use Megs Alloy Wheel cleaner and really scrub it in to get rid of the majority of the grime. There is still some there still!
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/GeneralMods/B4LCRWheels27012008-1.jpg
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/GeneralMods/B4LCRWheels27012008-2.jpg
Here is what they look like after the cleaning.
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/GeneralMods/LCRWheels27012008.jpg
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/GeneralMods/LCRWheels27012008-2.jpg
I am currently letting them dry and then I am going to polish them up to get rid of the stuff that didnt come off. Then hopefully next month money permitting i will take them to get some special treatment! :) Cant wait!
daveyonthemove
27-01-2008, 20:51
I don't know in truth, mine does it, it did it more after the remap and even more when i got the exhaust hacked - i think it's just that you can hear it more due to the extra 'stuff' the remap does ( note the really technical term used there) hehe
Mine does it too!
After modding the airbox the noise from the turbo is awesome. Booting it in 2nd (the only gear i've noticed it in) it sounds supercharged :-o
If only it was..... :)
Its all going to plan as i thought...
Trust me mate, what we have planned is going to look amazing on the car!! ;)[B)]
I know Slick, I just cant wait to get it done now. I been looking at the tyres that came with them. Two of them got plenty of tred, probably last 4-5k. The other two got tread but will last for 2k at best. They are Pirelli Rosso's so they are "better" than the Nero's but i doubt they will be as good as my F1s :(
I think a told you so is in order! lol
No worries we can sort out some Toyos or more F1's if you really have too...
LOL! At least they got rubber! :) I will wait until the front two go as they will last for 2k at least and then change for toyo/f1s in summer. I will rotate the rosso's from back to front and wear those down for summer so i can get all four the same.
Well - I might take the alloys down this Saturday as I get paid on Friday. :bounce:
Nice wheels ;)
Porki is a top bloke - tried his 18'' BBS CH's on once upon a time... :D
Very true Pat.
Car feels great at the moment though i did notice this odd noise, which only happened twice in an hour of driving. I am not sure whether it is the turbo, DV, exhaust yet but when cruising at 30-40mph and just sitting on the turbo then lifting off i get like a dump from the turbo, exhaust but it sorta does it like 2-3 times in succession? The car doesnt judder or any sort of loss of power, doesnt do it if your going fast...It sort sounds like the DV is dumping more air but not in 1 lot but in 3 small lots....any ideas?
Its the air recoil down the air pipes, youve heard mine do it, but extra loud as i have the Carbonio which is like a megaphone with that noise...
I liken it to the noise a turbo makes without a dump valve, e.g. no valve just a release valve, a couple years ago it was a big craze on the R5 turbos to remove the dump valve to open valve (it has a name, but cant remember it at the moment!)
stuart86
28-01-2008, 17:08
i recognise those wheels :D
good buy and even better price :)
Its the air recoil down the air pipes, youve heard mine do it, but extra loud as i have the Carbonio which is like a megaphone with that noise...
I liken it to the noise a turbo makes without a dump valve, e.g. no valve just a release valve, a couple years ago it was a big craze on the R5 turbos to remove the dump valve to open valve (it has a name, but cant remember it at the moment!)
Ah cool, when we drop off the wheels on Saturday Slick i will try and replicate it.
i recognise those wheels :D
good buy and even better price :)
hehe well whoever had them before me needs a lesson on cleaning wheels. I spent two hours trying to take the crap stuck on them off. They look much better now and in around 2 weeks will look unrecognisable! :)
stuart86
28-01-2008, 17:31
i look forward to seeing the re-furb pics :D
Custom LCR Alloys
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Dropped my alloys off to split and polish for customisation. Hopefully when they are ready next Saturday (time is dragging already) I will have something unique to show on the forum.
Doing some research today I uncovered that I need the following.
4x - wheel nut cover for the lock nut. Part No: 8D0 601173 B/D
16x - wheel nut covers. Part No 321 601 173 A
4x - Seat 50mm Alloy centre caps. Part No: unknown???
20x - Locking wheel nut. If anyone has any suggestions on where I can get these i would be very grateful!
1x - Nut covery thingy. Part No: 8D0 012 244 A
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/GeneralMods/nutcoverthing.JPG
I also need 4 new tyres as upon closer inspection they gone bald in the middle due to over inflation. I have found Falken 452s for £57.50 which is a result.
Custom LCR Alloys - Prep work
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In anticipation of the alloys coming this Saturday I have decided to invest in something that will protect my investment. Chemical Guys Wheel Guard from various sources is hailed to be one of the best wheel waxes/sealants out there.
The plan will go as follows:
1) Wax wheels with the wheel guard.
2) Leave to cure for an hour in a warm place and buff off.
3) Apply wax again, leave to cure for another hour and then buff off.
4) Wax again, leave for 5 minutes and buff off.
This process will hopefully make the wheels really shiny and protected from here onwards. Apparently they will be so well protected that I wont have to use any sort of wheel cleaner. As long as I wax them regularly, for example every other wash they should say perfect!
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/LCRAlloys09022008/CGWheelGuard2.jpg
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/LCRAlloys09022008/CGWheelGuard1.jpg
Yoghurt anyone? :)
Look forward to seeing these done :D
Centre caps from Seat - around £30 for all 4...
I thought you would Ad Lav.
£30 quid!?!?!?! wtf! I better put this on my insurance and wax them too! :)
Yup, expensive things centre caps! Worth it though, they finish the wheels off!
Keep us posted :D
LCR Alloy Preview Pics
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Well what can I say. I am amazed and shocked how the wheels came out. Spent the whole day today with Slick waxing and cleaning the cars/wheels ready to take some quality pictures. Unfortunately by the time we finished it got dark and pictures just didn't come out that great so here is a preview. These two are the best of a bad bunch. don't do the wheels justice but I am determined to take good ones tomorrow!
In case you cant see the fronts are machine faced with antracite in between the spokes.
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/LCRAlloys09022008/LCRwheelspreview.jpg
As you can see from this pic face of the alloys are very shiney at night
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/LCRAlloys09022008/LCRwheelspreview3.JPG
Looking great, need some daytime pics to show them off :)
UncleFester
09-02-2008, 21:16
Looks very smart Maz, really suits the colour of the car - good to see you cleaned the rubbing strips this time too :cartman:
daveyonthemove
09-02-2008, 21:21
Loks nice mate, i still think the LCR wheels are one of the better looking wheels for the Leon above most aftermarket rims. SEAT got it right first time ;)
Look forward to some shiny daytime pics mate :D
Loks nice mate, i still think the LCR wheels are one of the better looking wheels for the Leon above most aftermarket rims. SEAT got it right first time ;)
Look forward to some shiny daytime pics mate :D
Thanks mate. Definitely going to take loads and upload them today.
Looks very smart Maz, really suits the colour of the car - good to see you cleaned the rubbing strips this time too :cartman:
Thanks Pat, i learnt my lesson from last time! When you see them in person i look forward to your opinion! Brake clearance is pretty impressive compared to standard FR rims.
Looking good buddy :)
Get those day light pics done ;)
LCR Alloy Wheels Arty photshoot
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Enjoy. Opinions and comments welcome :)
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/LCRAlloys09022008/LCRWheel165.JPG
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/LCRAlloys09022008/LCRWheel167.JPG
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/LCRAlloys09022008/LCRWheel169.JPG
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/LCRAlloys09022008/LCRWheel173.JPG
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/LCRAlloys09022008/LCRWheel175.JPG
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/LCRAlloys09022008/LCRWheel178.JPG
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/LCRAlloys09022008/LCRWheel180.JPG
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/LCRAlloys09022008/LCRWheel182.JPG
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/LCRAlloys09022008/LCRWheel193.JPG
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/LCRAlloys09022008/LCRWheel194.JPG
daveyonthemove
10-02-2008, 11:09
VERY nice!
I often wondered how they would look with a darker inside. I like them.
You weren't wrong about the shine either! :D
Soundwave
10-02-2008, 13:12
Amazing Maz simply stunning.
They were an absolute bargain & look amazing
Great choice you made there with getting them.
Look forward to seeing them in person :)
Neil
ChrisGTL
10-02-2008, 18:19
Looking very nice m8.
Good job!
What wax did you use on the cars body?
Thanks Chris, I used about 3 waxes depending on the weather/time i have.
Megs Cleaners Wax, P21s and Chemical Guys XXX
ChrisGTL
10-02-2008, 21:22
Defo very sexeh.
Looks very similar to mine sat outside, infact when I'm finished mine should be more or less a twin to urs.
Loving it! Gives me inspiration.....(and letters from a angry bank manager) :)
Defo very sexeh.
Looks very similar to mine sat outside, infact when I'm finished mine should be more or less a twin to urs.
Loving it! Gives me inspiration.....(and letters from a angry bank manager) :)
Thanks mate appreciated!
nice wheels luigi
ill show you pics of mine when they get sorted :-)
very nice maz - glad to see they went to a good home :D
Cheers porki :)
Yours and mine in a photo shoot would be "sex" as RikH would say! :drool:
sexytiiiiiiiiiiiime
boratttttttt sagdyev
Very nice :D
Any pearl in the grey mate? ;)
Very nice :D
Any pearl in the grey mate? ;)
Maybe...Maybe not ;)
Big Brake Upgrade
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Took the plunge and purchase from ebay an ATE big Brake kit for £550! Kit is worth £1200 buying it from ATE! Hopefully this is not an ebay con job and everything works out well. Of course I will document how it all goes!
Kit includes the following:
Ate High Performance Powerkit, ( Part Number 24.0910-0123.3) a complete big brake conversion for your VW Group vehicle kit comprises
2 Brake Calipers complete with pads
2 Brake caliper mounting brackets without studs
2 Brake caliper mounting brackets with studs
4 Fastening bolts-Mounting brackets without studs
4 Fastening Nuts-Mounting brackets with studs
2Brake Discs (pre-assembled bell/Disc combination)
8 Washers
2 Banjo Bolts
2 Steel braided brake hoses
2 Brake pad wear indicators with quick connector
Comprehensive Instruction Booklets
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/GeneralMods/ATEBigBrakes.JPG
wish me luck :)
Good luck ;)
Good luck to you too...at least we will both get shafted if it goes wrong :lol:
That sounds so gay!! :banned:
Fingers crossed it all goes well!
UncleFester
14-02-2008, 08:12
C'mon Maz - fit it in the carpark at work on your lunchbreak ;) Should provide a healthy improvement over your 312mm stuff - and with 2 piece discs too!
Still got to arrive yet Pat! :) Dont worry if they are good you will be the first to know, then we can have braking wars.
Big Brake Kit cont..
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Well all the parts have arrived. I am waiting till next month now to get MOT, Brakes and service done at the same time. Hopefully that will save me some money overall.
As you can see from pictures below the calliper is quite big. It is a bit longer it looks like than the LCR Brembo calliper, the pots also look bigger too when looking inside. Hopefully this will translate into a better braking system than the Brembo kit. I should think so too as they retail for £1400!
The discs are 326x30mm. They are heavy but not as heavy as my current ATE discs are. Maybe its because they are two piece? Hopefully I should have enough clearance with the LCR wheels. If not then a small spacer should do the trick.
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/ATEBigBrakeKit/ATECalliper.JPG
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/ATEBigBrakeKit/ATEDisc1.jpg
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/ATEBigBrakeKit/ATEDisc2.jpg
Well just when I thought everything was going to be good with the brakes and even went to AMD and booked the car in. Olaf and I worked out that we potentially have wrong parts from the kits we purchased.
I am quite angry with the situation with the company that i purchased off. I will give them some strong words come Monday.
Hopefully Olaf and I can work all of this out and get the brakes on.
daveyonthemove
23-02-2008, 22:14
Thats bad news mate. Had my fingers crossed for you too.
I hope they sort it for you at no extra cost.
Tell me about it. Thing is davey the kit is worth 1400 (i got it for 550) and from what they told me they havent got any left. So its sort of not worth me getting my money back and I doubt they will replace the wrong parts. :(
nick-barnes07 is going to help me with part numbers etc...
i dunno :(
UncleFester
23-02-2008, 23:47
Which bits aren't right Maz?
Well I am waiting for nickbarnes to get back to me but he thinks the brackets look the good.
However can you believe they sent me two right hand calipers. I didnt notice it at first until olaf rang me and i paid attention to them. Olaf has two left calipers and I have two right calipers.
The problem lies is that when looking at the part numbers three of our calipers have similar part codes and we figured out which ones are the right and left. One of Olafs left calipers as has a different part number. As you can imagine Olaf and I are in a position...who gets the odd caliper and runs the risk it not being right.
On top of that Olaf has completely difference brackets...
UncleFester
24-02-2008, 00:13
different brackets .... are these brembo calipers and what's the part no.s on them?
not brembo they are made by ATE...its there own caliper as far as I am aware.
UncleFester
24-02-2008, 00:33
Maybe that's why they were cheap ... they shouldn't be different carriers although i would get together with Olaf and see if you can get the carriers dry mounted then see if the calipers can be swapped around ....
The actual kit itself is very high quality. ATE are quite big in germany and renound for good products...
Thats what we are going to have to do mate. Hopefully i can get all the right part numbers on Monday.
UncleFester
24-02-2008, 00:52
Either way will look the mutts nutts when you get them on :)
When :)
I just want to get them on as I bought the wheels especially for big brakes.
Evening boyos!
Indeed it is a confusing muddle of what is right, what is not right, and which parts are missing!
Sure we can get it sorted though Maz.
At the end of the day if some more carriers need to be purchased it isn't the end of the world, given the saving made on the kit.
It is however shoddy to send out a box of bits that are a mish mash, incorrect parts and no instructions! Especially as they even posted up a list of parts included in the kit on the ebay ad and half of those are missing!
The brackets don't worry me as much, like you said they can be bought easily I believe. Its the caliper that is of a concern. Assuming we have 3 good ones that's and we need one to get the right one, plus pads...thats £375+ gone down the pan.
Yeh I agree.
It's, fingers crossed, more confusing than it actually is. Once we know for definite if that last 3 digits makes a difference then we will know where to go.
I can't see why they would have a caliper that doesn't match unless they have cocked up one of the earlier kits they sent out. And that contained 'odd' calipers.
I've asked Nick for a copy of his instructions as I believe he was lucky enough to be sent a copy.
UncleFester
24-02-2008, 06:48
If these are new surely a call to ATE under warranty would be a start? If you've not fitted the parts then you'd be exchanging new for new so it's not as if it would cost them?
Yes I already thought about this but my theory is that the kit has been tampered with, that I am almost certain of. Unless ATE are very nice people i think few companies would do that. I will try it of course!
UncleFester
24-02-2008, 08:27
You think the naughty ebay man has been selling boxes of random bits flung together to make what looks like a complete kit?
Well if they indeed had 12 kits in total. I reckon there were problems with some of the kits and they took parts out of other kits to satisfy customers. I mean this is how stupid they are they gave me two right calipers and olaf two lefts...Olaf has a BMW manual but his ATE box says VW/Seat Leon on the box. He has completely different brackets to me so for sure they been tampered with.
daveyonthemove
24-02-2008, 10:52
Get a question to the seller ASAP and if they don't settle it within 10 days, log a problem on paypal and get your money back. Don't let them fob you off whatever you do!
No point getting my money back as I would have to return the parts.
The discs alone cost the whole amount of the kit.
daveyonthemove
24-02-2008, 11:11
Paypal doesn't enforce the return of goods, they just deal with the money side. I'm not saying you should rip the seller off, but if he/she won't help then they are ripping you off, so it might be a last resort. I imagine any problem could be resolved in 10 days if they really wanted to help you out.
jamie paton
24-02-2008, 12:21
very nice mate, the cupra R wheels look really smart as well.
very nice mate, the cupra R wheels look really smart as well.
Thank you :)
Met up with Slick and Olaf tonight to have a look at both brakes kits to make sense of it all.
Good news and bad news really. The good news is that all the calipers are fine and so are the discs and hoses. Bad news is that Olafs brackets are for BMWs so Olaf and I will fight for them to get changed over for the correct brackets.
All go for me on March 7th! Big Brakes here I come :D
New wheels here I come :whistle:
UncleFester
26-02-2008, 22:33
Met up with Slick and Olaf tonight to have a look at both brakes kits to make sense of it all.
Good news and bad news really. The good news is that all the calipers are fine and so are the discs and hoses. Bad news is that Olafs brackets are for BMWs so Olaf and I will fight for them to get changed over for the correct brackets.
All go for me on March 7th! Big Brakes here I come :D
Did you get confused because the calipers look identical and can't easily be distinguished left from right? :) I bet if you wanted you could get a machine shop to do a copy of your brackets ..... ?
69mm.... good to go...Maz!!!
45mm.... new wheels Ollie!!!
:PMSL:
I nearly left with the two calipers Maz turned up with. That would have been hilarious haha.
What is not so funny was my highly inadequate wheel clearance, you and your bloody ruler Rodger!
UncleFester
26-02-2008, 22:38
I nearly left with the two calipers Maz turned up with. That would have been hilarious haha.
What is not so funny was my highly inadequate wheel clearance, you and your bloody ruler Rodger!
Will you be needing some 10mm and 16mm spacers with bolts Olaf ;)
:lol: I am going to steal it that ruler, I will do it Rodger. You know I will!
That would have NOT been funny Ollie, I would have driven to your house that night if we did. As for the wheels, well you have options like we discussed.
I think wheels are probably down to a choice of two already.
And no Pat, sadly I need about a 40mm spacer haha. Maybe if i bolt four 10mms together it'll be ok? :blink:
Will you be needing some 10mm and 16mm spacers with bolts Olaf ;)
More than that PAT!!! lol :lol:
UncleFester
26-02-2008, 23:51
40mm!!!!! How come it's so far out?
Brakes - massive.
Wheel clearance - not massive!
Problem!!
40mm!!!!! How come it's so far out?
Kei Force 10 are NOT built to accomadate big brakes, all show no go as the saying goes...
The clearance is pettiful on the standard floating calipers, so putting a 2 piece 4 pot caliper instead, well you need 40mm clearance in the design!
Maz i think may even get away with NO SPACERS as its very close to the depth it needs, only fitting will tell, and only have to wait a week and abit to find that out! ;)
UncleFester
27-02-2008, 09:00
Pain in the ass eh - you might like this pic then
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/williamhawkins/goodpic3.jpg
Porche 993 Turbo front brakes - if they clear on those wheels i reckon Maz should be ok too!
Pain in the ass eh - you might like this pic then
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/williamhawkins/goodpic3.jpg
Porche 993 Turbo front brakes - if they clear on those wheels i reckon Maz should be ok too!
Yes mate, but those brakes are on a bell and rotor with a 993 caliper, the ATE caliper is more like a 996 caliper sizing. Not that it matters, Maz is fine, the clearance is similiar to my wheels. Plus the rotor of the ATE kit is different to that in the photo that looks to be a 993 Turbo disc.
Ollie isnt so lucky.
By the way on your wheels and brakes, that pictures shows a bell and rotor design, you dont have the same kit, you have a 312mm with porsche caliper, i still think you need to test the wheel on your car first and not rely on a glf picture on the net... I made that mistake and it cost me dearly! :blink:
UncleFester
27-02-2008, 09:47
Even with a bell and rotor it's the carrier that dictates how far out the caliper sits - disc clearance is not the issue. I'm not buying new though - i'm buying 2nd hand and if it doesn't fit then i can still sell for pretty much what i paid :)
UncleFester
27-02-2008, 10:04
GET 18s!
NO :) I'm going back to 17s for a bit :)
Even with a bell and rotor it's the carrier that dictates how far out the caliper sits - disc clearance is not the issue. I'm not buying new though - i'm buying 2nd hand and if it doesn't fit then i can still sell for pretty much what i paid :)
Yeah the caliper dictates where the discs sits and vice versa, your caliper sits over the OE postion of the 312mm disc, in the 993 turbo conversion the disc is on a hat and positions the caliper further back by up to 8mm in some cases to allow OE alloys fitment. Tha 993 rotor is on a hat, so guessing that its being thrown back 6mm or so.. yours doesnt, so just be aware Pat.
I'm not preaching, but if anything i learnt from custom made brakes is that, and also the fact i work on CAD, i have designed the hat and rotor systems in 3-d and found alot of information into it!
UncleFester
27-02-2008, 14:29
Yeah the caliper dictates where the discs sits and vice versa, your caliper sits over the OE postion of the 312mm disc, in the 993 turbo conversion the disc is on a hat and positions the caliper further back by up to 8mm in some cases to allow OE alloys fitment. Tha 993 rotor is on a hat, so guessing that its being thrown back 6mm or so.. yours doesnt, so just be aware Pat.
I'm not preaching, but if anything i learnt from custom made brakes is that, and also the fact i work on CAD, i have designed the hat and rotor systems in 3-d and found alot of information into it!
I guess that's the good thing with buying second hand - if things do go wrong you can always move stuff on for what you paid for it. I've also seen that LCR owners abroad use those wheels as winter rims, (usually S3 but they're the same as Mk1 TT anyway ) because they're the only ones that clear LCR Brembos - i'm working on the basis that my Boxster ones will require the same clearance. 6mm was about what it was out by :)
UncleFester
28-02-2008, 08:43
Ok after a bit of digging i found this. From what I understand that means mine SHOULD fit without the need for spacers. Maz / SLick / Olaf - the links on here might be of interest to you too.
http://www.bira.org/info_main.html
System 1 for the TT and Mk 4 Volkswagen
Uses Porsche Boxster 4-piston monobloc caliper over the 2000 Audi TT 312x25mm rotor. Fits Audi TT, Mk 4 Volkswagens with the 5x100 bolt pattern, and any other car that can accept Audi TT brakes bolt-on. Fits under the factory TT wheels.
http://www.bira.org/info_main.html
System 1 ONLY
Tested and Acceptable:
* Any wheels that fit over BIRA System 2 brakes (see below)
* A8 17" five spoke wheels. More information forthcoming.
* Audi/VW Tango wheels, 16x7 ET45. "...fits fine, but the stick-on wheel weights MUST be mounted to the far inside of the wheel."
* 1995 S6 Avus style stock 16" wheels
* 1993 S4 stock wheels, 8Jx16H2 ET40. Labeled 4A0 601 025E
* V8Q stock forged BBS wheels, 8Jx16H2 ET35. Labeled 441 602 025K, BBS RG043
* 2000 Audi TT factory 17" wheel (5x100 bolt pattern over the TT rotor)
* 2000 Audi A6 2.7T, 16x7 ET45, no spacers required (http://forums.audiworld.com/a4/msgs/622199.phtml)
* 2001 Audi Allroad "twin spoke" 17" (7mm clearance)
* ASA JS5, 17x7.5, ET35
* ATP S5, 16x7" ET 35
* Avant Garde Design SL, 17x8, ET 32. Labeled BBS 05 44 020
* BBS RK, 17x8" ET35. "Tons of clearance."
* Borbet Type B, 16x7.5, 35 mm offset
* Borbet Type C, 17x8.5 ET30. Nice fit, plenty of clearance.
* Borbet Type E, 17x8 ET 35 size. Fits fine, with about 3mm clearance.
* Borbet Type M, 17Jx8H2, ET 35, labeled H80735.
* Borbet Type S, 17x7.5, ET 35 (2.5mm clearance)
* Borbet Type T, 16x7.5 ET 35
* Ergon Multispoke 16x7.5, 35mm offset
* Moda Sport by BBS 16x7.5, 35mm offset (labeled "7-1/2J-16H2 ET 35"). Close on the face, but no fit problems.
* Ronal LV, 17" (installed on a 1995 S6)
* Ronal LV, 16x7.5" ET 35. 5mm clearance to rim, 3mm clearance to back side of spokes.
* Ronal R28, 16x7.5 ("S4 fitment" only!)
* Ronal R28 17x8.5
* Ronal R-38, 17x8 ("nearly and inch of clearance in all directions!")
In general, any 16" ET35 wheel should fit, and in general any 16" ET45 wheel will not.
Good find Pat.
Well hopefully I should have any problem fitting mine. The discs though are bigger than the Brembo discs...323x28 (brembo disc) vs 326x30 (ATE discs) but as it is a 2 piece rotor it gets thrown back by 6mm.
I will find out come Friday! :)
cap r 225
29-02-2008, 19:03
cheers for the pics jonjay, looks ace mate especially the ancerite against the grey paint work.
Cheers mate, glad you like the look.
UncleFester
29-02-2008, 20:54
You got those brakes on yet Maz!
UncleFester
29-02-2008, 20:55
*checks calendar* today is a friday!
You know what I mean! :)
By the way saw those 17" wheels you were origionally looking at on a new A3. They look awful mate seriously...
UncleFester
29-02-2008, 21:17
Nope ... 'was going to' would be more accurate - i was interesting in no spacers but having since found out the spacers are not at fault, my egg shaped wheels are!
MOT and Service
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The car had a full service carried out by no other than AMD Technik. They really looked at the car all over to spot any potential faults and thankfully there wasn't any. Even got a Aircon service as well so the it is working very well which I am pleased about.
The car also went for its MOT. Passed with flying colours even with the modified exhaust and HIDs so just for the record HIDs will pass an MOT!
ATE High Performance Brake Kit
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The one I been waiting for! The ATE kit is finally on with no problems at all and there was no need for spacers! Only modification that had to be done was the brake guar had to be bent a tiny bit back to stop from rubbing.
You can immediately tell there is much more stopping power in them. Of course I am still in the bedding in period so cant really test them like I would like so a review of this kit will follow in the coming weeks and some more clean pictures.
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/ATEBigBrakeKit/ATEbrakes3.jpg
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/ATEBigBrakeKit/ATEbrakes2.jpg
Plenty of clearance as the disc is thrown back and LCR wheels have great clearance.
http://mariossergides.co.uk/LeonFR/ATEBigBrakeKit/ATEbrakes1.jpg
UncleFester
07-03-2008, 17:56
Mmmmmm sex wee hehehe
daveyonthemove
07-03-2008, 17:58
Looking good mate ;)
Now you can stop on the spot. Better get yourself a neckbrace :lol: