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Willie
31-07-2007, 10:24
So I'm thinking that my slave cylinder might be leaking brake fluid (level going down and no brake system leaks), but will obviously get this checked before I jump into this.
As I believe that to change this involves a gear box/clutch out job, I'm thinking of changing the clutch and putting in a diff at the same time.
The reason for this is when the LCR stops being a family car I'm going to make it into a more track/ fast road car. As I'm planning a big turbo upgrade therefore more power I though that this might be a good time to do it.

ANYWAY!!

Roughly how much would an uprated clutch and ATB differential (including slave cylinder piston) any recommended suppliers and anything else that should be done in here while I'm at it??
I have been on RobDons site and noted what he is running
Quaife ATB differential
Helix Group N organic clutch and single-mass lightened flywheel
I presume that this is a good combination but I'm sure that there are others.
As I said the car will be track and road but it needs to be a strong set up as am planning on giving the car HEAPS!!
Anybody have any other recommended set ups with prices and labour times

Cheers:thumbup:

h17och
31-07-2007, 15:43
slave takes 5mins to change

buy clutch and diff from us

h17och
31-07-2007, 15:43
i dont me us as in me, i me US untd states

Willie
31-07-2007, 16:29
Any recommendations?

PhilW
31-07-2007, 16:47
SPEC Stage 3 clutch for me and Quaife diff.

I think hooch as spec stage 3 or 3+ and Peloquin diff.

Willie
31-07-2007, 23:25
SPEC Stage 3 clutch for me and Quaife diff.

I think hooch as spec stage 3 or 3+ and Peloquin diff.
any pros and cons to both your set ups
All good for 300 BHP+

claudefrog
01-08-2007, 11:01
what flywheels are you running? the G60 one?

I was looking and the spec2 looks to handle 385lb torque

the spec3 handles up to 450lb

PhilW
01-08-2007, 11:11
SPEC stage 2 was the same price as stage 3 from TTS. I'm using a lightened and balanced ABF/G60 flywheel which i bought second hand.

claudefrog
01-08-2007, 11:13
whats the spec 3 clutch like compared to std feel?

I sit in traffic quite a bit in the mornings and dont want to have a left leg like a body builder :P

PhilW
01-08-2007, 11:22
Not fitted it yet as i'm still waiting for my car back. Craig! Hooch and badger bill has the same clutch setup afaik.

ibizacupra
01-08-2007, 18:07
since Oct 2005

h17och
01-08-2007, 23:22
not good in traffic

Willie
02-08-2007, 10:09
Cheers for the replies guys
I'm just in the very early stages of this so any info is very appreciated
Is there a better set up that is road friendly as well as track ready
I'm thinking the 'Helix Group N organic clutch and single-mass lightened flywheel'
Sounds like my best option, this is run by Robdon and CSD_19 and comes recommended anyone else got comments about this set up

Willie
03-08-2007, 08:07
Situation has gotten worser quicker than expected
The clutch now is sticking to the floor and can only be returned by pulling it back to neutral position.
SO.....
Where do I get a new Helix clutch from, does any of our sponsors do them?
If I buy a helix clutch does it come with a slave or do I have to specifically ask for this?
Is there any other parts that I need to ask for that are not in the kit?
Does anyone know of a web site for USA companies or have any recommendations for USA companies?

Cheers for any help as said very new to this but need to catch up quickly:help:

Wille

PhilW
03-08-2007, 08:17
Isnt that sign of a master or slave cylinder going on top of the clutch pedal, which ever one it is and not anything to do with the clutch pressure/grip?

Willie
03-08-2007, 08:22
Isnt that sign of a master or slave cylinder going on top of the clutch pedal, which ever one it is and not anything to do with the clutch pressure/grip?

Yup think its the slave but AFAIK if it is leaking is pisses brake fluid over the clutch plate and the need for changing the clutch is just a matter of time
And as its a gear box out job I might as well fit a diff and new clutch while I'm at it.
Looks like its going to be very expensive so as cheaply as I can do it with quality parts is the way I will go.

Willie
03-08-2007, 09:56
Right after speaking to Jim at Star he thinks it might be the little slave cylinder that holds pressure to allow the pedal to return, the slave that functions the master, to function the slave to operate the clutch.
If it is its a £60 bit instead of £££££'s[B)]

PhilW
03-08-2007, 10:06
I have a similar problem with mine, after time the clutch pedal drops to the floor and i have to pull it up with my foot to sort it out.

Willie
03-08-2007, 10:44
Has it been doing this for a while?
Do you just live with it?
I was worrying about it not returning, not a problem so far?
Have you check the slaves/master out to see if they are okay?

h17och
03-08-2007, 18:17
min ewas master when it was doing this! slave cyl aint a box out job mate!

Willie
04-08-2007, 00:54
min ewas master when it was doing this! slave cyl aint a box out job mate!

Okay, thought this was in the gear box so a box out job, but after reading your engine build I'm not going to argue with you!!:redface:

Nice build by the way,[B)]:drool: you probably saved yourself £4,000 there
Wish I could do this myself, canna see that happening

HTC
04-08-2007, 10:02
On 4WD gearboxes the slave cylinder is indeed inside the bell housing. On 2WD gearboxes, the slave is on the outside. So in your case it is a cheap and simple fix.