View Full Version : All is quiet on the REVO front
Just wondering if anyone has been in touch with REVO lately and can tell us any new info. Or has anyone been REVO'd lately or been booked in for the treatment?
What about you lucky ba**ards that have already been REVO'd, how are things going with your cars, any performance figures?
Has the novelty worn off yet?
No! I didn't think it would have.:D
:cheers:
Only thing I can tell ya is that I've got to wait til march 1st or there abouts for them to have code ready for my car.:(
Are all the dealers in the UK independents or are some linked to SEAT dealers? If so, how do they hide this fact from SEAT?
P.S. Has anyone got a power graph for the Leon R yet?
:cheers:
Has the novelty worn off yet?
Now if you would have had your car revo-ed, would you
still have time to be on the internet? :D
ANDY BLUNT
24-02-2003, 10:36
Stopped using high9 on sps3 ,it just pulls so strong, it feels not quite controled enough .You have to be carefull whilest attacking roundabouts etc,power comes in so fast the wheels light up.Low 9 is more controlable and less of a fight!:D Cheers Andy (the "mature one").
Originally posted by ANDY BLUNT
Stopped using high9 on sps3 ,it just pulls so strong, it feels not quite controled enough .You have to be carefull whilest attacking roundabouts etc,power comes in so fast the wheels light up.Low 9 is more controlable and less of a fight!:D Cheers Andy (the "mature one").
Andy could you tell me abit more about SPS3 as that's the system I'll be getting.
Do you use the anti-theft every time you leave the car? Is it simple to use? Also what is the boost on the lowest setting? and why 'low 9' and 'high 9'? Are they the same power but mapped out differently?
Any info. would be most useful.
Many thanks.:cheers:
LEO LION R
24-02-2003, 11:02
P.S. Has anyone got a power graph for the Leon R yet?
DITTO
:cheers:
ANDY BLUNT
24-02-2003, 11:08
Use anti theft sometimes depending on where i leave the car ,but it is a bit of a pain removing the dash panel every time. The difference between low and high setting is the amount of boost u r using.Not sure of actual boost pressures,no boost gauge yet,think max is1.5bar. I think low9 is 1.2bar ,anyone like to confirm ? Other than that great product and no problems so far.:cheers: Andy
Shock_Xe
24-02-2003, 11:50
low 9 is 1.25bar spikes at 1.35bar (18psi Spike at 20psi) seen it on boost gauge. And from what rich told me high 9 is 1.35bar but spikes at 1.5bar (20psi hold spikes at about 22/23psi) Yet to confirm. Plus the overboost protection (limp mode) has been removed/raised to a higher setting on the Revo program.
Wait until next sat (welsh meet) and i will borrow andy's SPS3 and check it on me boost gauge. (If andy is till coming and allow me to have a play with it ) :D :D We need to sort u out wif a boost gauge andy m8!!!!
Edit: Answering original question: I dont think ill ever get bored of having Revo (If u do thats where sps3 comes in!!) No problems with program. The more i drive it the more it seems superior to APR. Plus APR have twice as many dealers than APR already but have yet to list them. Theres even one in bristol which is great 4 me and maybe one in cardiff coming soon!!! Like rich said its such an easy thing to do any tuning shop can supply it!!!
ibizacupra
24-02-2003, 12:28
Originally posted by Shock_Xe
. Theres even one in bristol which is great 4 me and maybe one in cardiff coming soon!!! Like rich said its such an easy thing to do any tuning shop can supply it!!!
*cough*
and me :D
;)
Bill
Jimmyboy
24-02-2003, 12:30
Shock_XE you seem to know what you're talking about so I'll ask you! What do mean when talking about when the boost spikes? Is this where its at its maximum? Sorry for my lack of knowledge!
Shock_Xe
24-02-2003, 12:33
Its an overboost, Dont really know the inns and outs but it only spikes for a second then holds at its set figure. Im assuming its done to spool the turbo up quicker to the desired ammount and ensure boost level??
Are all the REVO dealers independent or are some linked to SEAT dealers?
ibizacupra
24-02-2003, 14:43
Overboost is a configurable parameter so give the motor some shove.... spikes in torque and boost are a consequence.
1200millibar is an Ibiza's stock maximum boost as a guide.
REVO must have increased this threshold on SPS3 to allow the high boost levels.
regards
Bill
Went to get my SPS3 on Saturday, we have had REVO since 3rd Jan and have been running it at Low boost 9 (when it has been out on the road and not waiting for coils). On the way home we switched to stock and it was quite amusing. It felt like something had happened to the engine and "surely it was never THIS slow!" (obviously not slow but it felt like our turbo had fallen off!)We soon got bored of this though and switched it back to Low 9.
You are not supposed to run the cars on High 9 for any length of time and only on higher octane fuel.
I kinda thought that when you trial REVO (for the 2hour free trial)it will be a bit disappointing when it reverts back to stock mode. For anyone who has the funds I would completely recomend the trial but be prepared to not want to let it go... You will want the full programme!
REVO are all still there and are coming to the meet at South Mimms this weekend with all their toys!!!
Laura
Originally posted by Ozy
REVO are all still there and are coming to the meet at South Mimms this weekend with all their toys!!!
:D :devil:
Scott
Originally posted by Ozy
REVO are all still there
Sure hope so as everyday seems like a month right now.:D ;)
Originally posted by Syphon
:D :devil:
Me thinks the journey home is going to be a darn sight more quicker than on the way there. ;)
:cheers:
Andy
You lucky, lucky bas**rds!:D
RichardBW
24-02-2003, 20:46
High boost settings from 0-9 is really making the turbo work and we have a disclaimer on these settings, it is the owners choice to use these, if you do not want to use them you can stick to low boost settings. The low boost will take you up to the 1.2bar region on the Ibiza with no hint of limp mode problems(we moved this to suit)
We carried out a trial with a car set at high boost 9 (1.35bar) and ignition 9 (ideally for race fuel) for two weeks solid. The car ran perfectly and extremely quick for a KO3 equipped car (seriously required new brakes after this tho)
This trial only came to an end after the Bill B roadtest and a coil failing at 3000rpm. Animal driver that bloke ;)
We will have several people armed and ready for the South Mimms meet.
See you there.
Originally posted by Revo Richard
We will have several people armed and ready for the South Mimms meet.
:D Can't wait.
I'm not even going to be cheeky and suggest a group discount if a number of us decide to get Revo'd on the day. ;) :duck:
:cheers:
Scott
Pete_slim
24-02-2003, 22:38
Originally posted by Syphon
:D Can't wait.
I'm not even going to be cheeky and suggest a group discount if a number of us decide to get Revo'd on the day. ;) :duck:
:cheers:
Scott
The only reason that i'm truly thankful for not being able to join you guys at the meeting is that My will power could not resist the temtation for giving my credit card a serious swipe and return to the north a 'more powerful' man:devil:
I must resist temptation for now. But cant..
2 hour freebie... Oh how all of you (non revo'd people) will suffer...:D
too many voices...:help:
Revo Kev
25-02-2003, 10:57
Just to let you guy's and gal's know, we won't be selling any software on the day at the South Mimms meet.
We are going there armed and ready with our free trial software, so for those of you that try it a trip to your local dealer will be required to get the full software and SPS.
Look forward to seeing you on sunday!
And don't forget to ask loads of questions for us poor northerners who can't make it.:cheers:
(Press conference mode on)
REVO Richard, REVO Richard over here, Red Leon Cupra R, Cumbria.
The 267bhp/287lb/ft mentioned in other threads, is that on the low 9 setting or high 9?
Also low setting 0, is that stock power (210bhp) or does it cut the turbo?
When are you going public with the powerplots?
Erm. Can't think of anymore at the moment.
(Press conference mode off)
Many thanks.:cheers:
Shock_Xe
25-02-2003, 13:09
low 9. SPS3 figures are unpublished due to the "Use nat your own risk" disclaimer. Also boost 0 is lower than stock. stock is set to 1
I asked these questions while i was up there!!! :)
Originally posted by Shock_Xe
low 9. SPS3 figures are unpublished due to the "Use nat your own risk" disclaimer. Also boost 0 is lower than stock. stock is set to 1
I asked these questions while i was up there!!! :)
So is there a seperate powerplot for each setting, stating what boost each is etc.?
Is low 9 the optimax program?
I hope there's an instruction booklet when I get it fitted.:cheers:
Revo Kev
25-02-2003, 17:03
The figures we've quoted for the Leon cupra R were taken at low boost 9/ignition 6 (ideally for optimax), yes these are what persons using an SPS1 or SPS2 optimax setting would get.
We haven't individual plots/figures for each and every setting.
The low setting 0 is only slightly less than standard.
There are instructions included with all 3 SPS modules!
LEO LION R
25-02-2003, 17:07
We haven't individual plots/figures for each and every setting.
So you do have them for the standard and upgraded Leon Cupra R then, can we see them please ?
:cheers:
Many thanks for responding so quickly REVO Kev.
Just one thing though, I was abit confused with the 0-9 settings but now you throw 'ignition 6' into the equation.
Please could you explain.
:cheers:
Revo Kev
25-02-2003, 17:21
Graphs are being compiled at the moment and will be put on our website as soon as possible.
The SPS3 has not only a dual boost controller but an ignition/timing controller. The adjustable timing allows the user to maximize power by adding or removing engine ignition timing.
So has SPS2 got 0-9 but no ignition timing adjustments or is SPS2 just a case of on or off.:cheers:
Excuse me, but I'm not getting something. Our humble KO3 is supposed to peak at 1.05 bar, how do you get 1.25 or more out of it??? :confused:
Or that hybrid KO3 shell - KO4 internal parts, can go higher?
:confused:
ibizacupra
25-02-2003, 20:59
The K03 is spec'd to a max 1.5bar, not 1.05bar.
Is that what you mean?
regards
Bill
Then, what's the limit of the KO4?
Revo Mark
26-02-2003, 06:55
Then, what's the limit of the KO4?
The K-04 produces about 1.55-1.6Bar. But please don't confuse pressure with displacement.
best regards
Mark
ibizacupra
26-02-2003, 07:59
Aye... to true...
eg. K03 + 1bar =~200bhp
K04 +1bar=~250bhp
IHI + 1bar = ~330bhp
(conservative figures above but indicitive of actual steps)
Airflow is the key.
regards
Bill
Shock_Xe
26-02-2003, 10:57
so what would happen if you stuck a k04 on a chipped k03 program car i.e. a beeza with the revo software?? Would you still get the power?? or would extra fueling be needed etc??
ibizacupra
26-02-2003, 11:26
Originally posted by Shock_Xe
so what would happen if you stuck a k04 on a chipped k03 program car i.e. a beeza with the revo software?? Would you still get the power?? or would extra fueling be needed etc??
I think you probably know the answer....
Larger turbo, same requested boost from ecu = more airflow = wrong fueling without being matched.
regards
Bill
Well, some people on the vwvortex run K03 software on K04-s and they are quite happy with it (A/F too). Some stick a 4bar FPR instead of the 3bar and let the ECU to compensate, though i have to agree that it is not a refined solution ;) (but cheap at least).
Shock_Xe
26-02-2003, 11:42
will be interesting if/when revo do the upgrade bolt on k04 software... Would be quite interested in that!!!!
How does the SPS high setting disclaimer work? I thought that if you got your car chipped it was your problem if something goes bang.
Also am I correct in thinking that:
SPS1 = switchable on/off
SPS2 = Switchable on/off + anti theft
SPS3 = Switchable low/high 0-9 etc. + anti-theft
Are they all available for the R?:cheers:
ibizacupra
26-02-2003, 20:16
SPS2 is not available at this time.
SPS1 and SPS3 is available for the R yes.
regards
Bill
Is there any news on when SPS2 will be available as I would really want this...
If not would it be possible to upgrade to it from SPS1?
i imagine you'd need both?
Has SPS2 just got the two settings (stock & chipped) plus anti-theft?:cheers:
Revo Mark
26-02-2003, 22:31
Has SPS2 just got the two settings (stock & chipped) plus anti-theft?
Hi Marra
SPS 2 has stock, 95 performance, 98 performance and anti-theft and will be available in March.
best regards
I think that's the one for me, how much?
:cheers:
SPS3 does the head the tail the whole damn thang.
If you want an upgrade then REVO will take you to places you have never been.
The upgrade will be detectable by dealers if they are in they drive the car with it in anything but standard (if not then why upgrade?)
if you choose SPS3 then you have the power to choose the amount of boost when you take the car to the dealers. I would suggest that if you choose loewr than standard boost then they may think there is something wrong with your car. It is up to you and how well you get on with your dealer.
Insurance.. whole different ball game... do you tell or not? Tesco have to be the best insurance for any Cupra - by far! they are 50% cheaper than anywhere else (get the 10% discount online though!!) If you tell them then it only goes up by 10%
SPS3 is kinda cool but I am a gadget freak - got me one of those Philips pronto the other day - so more gadgets the better!
A little bit drunk from the pub also right now but wheeeeeyheeeeey is my birthday in not so many dayz!!!
LAura
Shock_Xe
26-02-2003, 23:06
Originally posted by Ozy
Insurance.. whole different ball game... do you tell or not? Tesco have to be the best insurance for any Cupra - by far! they are 50% cheaper than anywhere else (get the 10% discount online though!!) If you tell them then it only goes up by 10%
LAura
What did you tell them u had?? I got tescos but scared of the price
I have read somewhere that the lowest setting using the SPS 3 controller reduces the boost below stock.
I have a Leon cupra R does anyone know what the BHP would be using this lowest setting.
Has anyone seen any powerplots for the REVO magic yet?
:cheers:
Originally posted by Ozy
Insurance.. whole different ball game... do you tell or not? Tesco have to be the best insurance for any Cupra - by far! they are 50% cheaper than anywhere else (get the 10% discount online though!!) If you tell them then it only goes up by 10%
TESCO the best..... the cheapest yes definately not the best.
had to sue them cos they dont know there arse from there elbow.
I also know loads of people who have had similar probs
re:security,mods,proof of no claims.