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Has anyone on here with a Leon Cupra as a company car had a chip upgrade such as Revo? What happens when the car goes back to the leasing company for example. Can the software be removed or de-activated? I'm thinking about having the chip software upgraded, but not sure if it's going to be a waste of money as the car will in effect go back in three years. Are there any Revo schemes available that have for example a time limit of three years and then de-activate like the free trial? Maybe this whould be availible at a cheaper cost???? Any ideas, or some feedback from Revo would be good.
Cheers.
Revo Kev
28-02-2003, 14:19
If you bought an SPS1 with the software then you would be able to switch in between the standard and performance programs, this would allow you to leave the car in standard form when the lease is up on the vehicle.
If you didn't want to buy an SPS module and just bought the software, when the lease is up in three years time you could take it back to your Revo dealer and they could revert the car back to standard.
The SPS modules allow you to switch between programs at your pleasure. You might for example want to switch back to standard mode when your car goes in for a service, so as not to allow the service mechanic to enjoy/abuse the extra power gained by being in perormance mode.
I would consider this, but not too sure about forking out over £600 on a company car thats not mine. Are there other cheaper options than this? I suppose if you spread the cost over 36 months it doesn't look too bad. Around £18 per month if you go for it with SPS1, £4 a week, 60p a day. Doesn't sound too bad now does it!!!
BeezerDiesel
28-02-2003, 20:23
You still not got wheels Rob?
No I haven't. I was told a couple of weeks ago it will be delivered end of March / early April, but still have no specific date. It's killing me waiting! The Mondeo had to go back as the lease expired end of Jan, so I'm driving a nice rep mobile at the mo, Renault Laguna Estate. :redface: But at least its got all the toys, satnav, leather, climate etc. Still prefer to have my Leon Cupra! I keep seeing the yellow one on Sowton, parked up near Royal Mail. Wonder if he want's to swap for a nice estate!!!!
BeezerDiesel
28-02-2003, 20:43
Was in SMC t'other day and there was a lovely black Cupra R waiting to be de-waxed etc just in, thought of you!:D
That makes me feel so much better! :hammer:
BeezerDiesel
28-02-2003, 20:59
I'll leave it at that then now I've hi-jacked the post :redface: :D :p
Yeah, just a bit off topic!!!! Anyway what were we talking about???? Something to do with Revo or something!!! Anyone else on here had their company car chipped?
Hoping to get my company car Revo’d next month, subject to Uncle Tony, (MD at work & bonus time).
Still have the car for another 2.5 years so well worth it.
Question: How much to revert the car back to standard at the end of the lease period?
Revo Kev
03-03-2003, 14:13
Towards the end of the lease period give your local Revo dealer a call and they should take it off f.o.c. This can always be done at our HQ.
If you leave it in chipped mode and have no SPS. Can it be detected by dealers on services etc? Would it be better to have the SPS1? Is it ok to run normal U/L for this rather than Optimax?
Revo Kev
03-03-2003, 14:33
Your dealer would have to drive the car to know it had performance software on it, the chances are they will be driving it!
The SPS1 would allow you to switch between programs, if you put it in stock mode the dealer wouldn't know it'd been touched.
We can set the performance program to either a 95ron or an optimax program, you can use normal u/l with the optimax program but obviously it won't run as efficiently as using optimax with it.
What are the benefits of using the Optimax? Are there big gains in torque / bhp between the two? It's not always possible to find a Shell petrol station when you need it? If you were set for optimax program, would it damage the car with normal U/L?
Revo Kev
03-03-2003, 17:56
Do a search for optimax use, I'm sure there have been more then a few threads covering that subject. If you use 95ron in optimax/98ron mode you won't damage the car, it just won't run at it's full potential.
timjhoward
03-03-2003, 23:26
My Leon Cupra is leased through the company I work for, I've had it since Dec '01 and still have about 20 months to go on it. I have almost convinced myself to splash out and buy the Revo program + SPS1. However I am still a little reluctant seeing as I will definately be getting rid of the car in less than two years.
What would make me a lot happier is if I knew I could remove the code from the ECU onto the SPS1 and then sell the whole unit. I guess this wouldn't work though as surely this would mean that anyone with a SPS1 or SPS3 could run their own reprogramming service. I imagine that the code/SPS unit is somehow keyed to your ECU?
Can anyone clarify this? And whether there is the potential to sell the unit back to the dealer at the end of the term?
Revo Kev
04-03-2003, 08:56
The SPS (serial port switch) modules only switch the programmes in the ecu. The software is flashed to an individual car, it can't be downloaded onto an SPS module as it is just a switch. You could sell your switch on to someone with just the software, but unless you wanted to sell your ecu you can't sell on the software.
As far as company car users are concerned I would say they are very willing to get their cars Revo'd / upgraded. What I think is the kick in the nuts so to speak, is the fact of after paying approx £650 on the upgrade, after a couple of years it all disappears and someone else will have a Revo'd car FOC. If Revo could produce a program that had a specified life of what the customer requirements were, i.e 2, or 3 years, much like the demo program, but at a reduced cost, I would guess more company car users would opt for this. Because of Revo flashing the standard chip and not having to replace it like other tuning companies, I would guess Revo would get all the business. Sounds like a gap in the marketplace they should look at or think about?
Revo Kev
05-03-2003, 14:20
Rob,
this isn't really feasible as it would be incredibly difficult to work out how many hours a certain driver would do over such a long period. I assume you've taken the idea from our demo software with a 5hr life, this is a 5hr ignition on life so not counting down when the car isn't in use.
If you didn't want to sell the car/send it back with performance software on it then you can always turn it back to standard using an SPS1 or take it back to your local Revo dealer and they can do this for you.
Kev, I understand this a bit better now, I didn't realise it worked on hours of ignition life. As you say that would be impossible to calculate over three years for example how many hours driving you would be doing. I thought the software had some sort of timer where you put in the length from when it's set live. Sounds like a tricky one then.
So I take it Revo would not consider a reduced rate program for a limited time of use then? Are there any other options available that are cheaper. I wouldn't mind spending around £300 but £650 is a bit much on a company car. Any other companies offer something similar? I would like to have a switchable program so that the dealer & leasing company don't know I have a chip.
sportbilly
13-03-2003, 19:15
I know what you mean, its a shame to spend money on a car when you dont know how long you will have it and then simply have to give it away.
If your working on hourly then like you said harder to calculate then hours you have your ignition on over the year, may still be worth it though, say buy 500hours of use then uf you still have the car get another lump installed ... depends on demand I suppose.