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Got into a little race on the way home (on my usual test track of course). Damn did I have a hard time loosing a Y2k ibiza 110. I guess it was chipped or something, cus even on a 4km uphill route I had a hard time ditching him.
Sh@t sh@t sh@t.
I really need revo to have things ready. On the twisties he was up my tailpipe as well!:mad: :mad:
I guess the commercial is right power is nothing without control. Rage didn't you say that the KW coilovers had a pretty comfy ride? After chipping I'm gonna have to do something to the suspension as the bilstein's by themselves are not really handling it.
The KWs are superb. The comfort is excellent and the performance is great. The price was good too. I haven't got a bad thing to say about them.
Originally posted by Rage
The KWs are superb. The comfort is excellent and the performance is great. The price was good too. I haven't got a bad thing to say about them.
Which ones do U have variant 1, 2 or 3? I've got to check them out. Think most of the othr kits (PSS & H&R coilovers) lower the car more at least 40mm, which is way to much for me.
I have variant 1. Which allows the height adjustment but no damping characteristics adjustment. The damping is fine though they've done a really good job.
A point to note. If you do get KWs order some locking rings as well that way you can get rid of the grub screw they use as standard.
Originally posted by Rage
A point to note. If you do get KWs order some locking rings as well that way you can get rid of the grub screw they use as standard.
Excuse the ignorance rage, but WTF are locking rings?
Gleistung
01-03-2003, 12:59
prc, my ex-Ibiza GT TDI110, tuned with ~135bhp/300Nm could outrun a friendīs stock Golf TDI150 up to 200kmh or so.. You have to consider the weight to power ratio..and Beezers are not very heavy at all.. ;)
Even the new beezers TDI130 tuned with "only" ~180bhp can still accelerate faster than a more powerfull Golf TDI150 with ~200bhp.
:cheers:
in order to stop the threaded collar (which supports the spring ) from slipping down over time the KW kit has a grub screw in the collar which is a pain in the @r5e.
http://www.kw-gmbh.de/e_version/ersatzteile/federteller.jpg
The locking rings are fitted before you install the suspension and when you're happy with the ride height you tighten them up underneath the collar.
http://www.kw-gmbh.de/e_version/gewinde/picslc/pic_variante1c.jpg
this picture shows the coilovers with the locking rings.
note the 2 rings on the SS strut.
The grub screw and the locking rings do the same job but the grib screw marks the thread of the coilover when overtightened and the hole for it fills with crud very quickly. Other downside is it means another tool is required for adjustment.
The rings mean you can just use the C spanner and you don't mark the threads.
Thanks for the info Rage. Didn't think the lock ring was an option. I'll bet they tell me the springs are option as well:( ;)
Gleistung-
Definitely had a hard time losing him. He was up my tailpipe on the A8 (oopps I mean test track;)) from Loures almost untill Torres. My tyre sidewalls are completely scuffed from the whole thing .
You can do without them, I do, but autotechnik suggested locking rings were better than the grub screw. I can see their point. I wasn't aware until after I'd had mine fitted that they were an option.
Originally posted by prc
[B]Got into a little race on the way home (on my usual test track of course). Damn did I have a hard time loosing a Y2k ibiza 110. I guess it was chipped or something, cus even on a 4km uphill route I had a hard time ditching him.
Paulo it might be worth to check your intake manifold if you haven't already disconnected the EGR.
Especially now, when you're chippin it.
heres the link (http://www.tdiclub.com/TDIFAQ/TDiFAQ-7.html#g)
Originally posted by agent
Paulo it might be worth to check your intake manifold if you haven't already disconnected the EGR.
Especially now, when you're chippin it.
heres the link (http://www.tdiclub.com/TDIFAQ/TDiFAQ-7.html#g)
Thanks for the info. I think my mechanic checks this everytime I change the timing belt (next time in 18000km):(
Gleistung
04-03-2003, 11:13
prc
Disconnecting EGR, gives no power/torque increase whatsoever, as this valve already is bypassed at full-throtle. Itīll avoid though instake, turbo, IC, etc.. contamination, especially with the CCV (Crank Case Ventilation) system plugged. ;)
The CCV bypass if done properly will give a noticable increase in throtle response and tad bit more power/torque, in some cases weīve measured 5-8bhp gain through this.
If you want check out this link, as this explains it in a bit more detail (in portuguese):
http://www.pke.pt/prodinvcon.htm
:cheers:
Originally posted by Gleistung
prc
Disconnecting EGR, gives no power/torque increase whatsoever, as this valve already is bypassed at full-throtle. Itīll avoid though instake, turbo, IC, etc.. contamination, especially with the CCV (Crank Case Ventilation) system plugged. ;)
The CCV bypass if done properly will give a noticable increase in throtle response and tad bit more power/torque, in some cases weīve measured 5-8bhp gain through this.
If you want check out this link, as this explains it in a bit more detail (in portuguese):
http://www.pke.pt/prodinvcon.htm
:cheers:
Will check it out further. You should get it up in english for the rest of the guys.;)
Originally posted by prc
Will check it out further. You should get it up in english for the rest of the guys.;)
Yeh, 5-8bhp + 10-12bhp from the decat + Green filter + 184bhp it was making at Stealth might = the magic 200+ for my little Beezer...
Originally posted by RB5
Yeh, 5-8bhp + 10-12bhp from the decat + Green filter + 184bhp it was making at Stealth might = the magic 200+ for my little Beezer...
Not sure if it will add more hp Fen. You just won't be running with less than your 184hp. I remember during 1st timing belt change at 60000km most of the intercooler piping had oil in it, which means the intercooler also had it.
From what I've been reading over at the tdi forum, you should have about 10hp from the de-cat alone.
Flashred
04-03-2003, 21:37
RB5 to be sure your ibiz should run on a dyno plots
but I think it's possible...
Must........make............200.............bhp.............before.............Rage
(or sell the bloody thing - imagine how much we'd save if one of us ducked out of this little unofficial modding frenzy we're on, Simon)
Originally posted by RB5
Must........make............200.............bhp.............before.............Rage
:rotfl:
Yep. Would probably save a fortune until someone else jumped in to take your place.
Gleistung
05-03-2003, 10:21
On our VAMAG rolling road, our tuned Ibiza TDI130 with 177bhp (flashed ecu + EGR off + CCV bypass) gained ~5bhp from an open cone filter, all gains from 3.500RPM up to the redline. I think the restriction on the Beezer is on the limited airbox size/volume rather than the filter itself..
On the exhaust side (to be tested soon) if you gain a similar figure will be quite an achievement, as Iīve seen before de-cated Supersprint complete exhaust systems dynoing +3bhp on a tuned Ibiza TDI110. ;)
De-cating usually gives between 1-3bhp and some nasty added noise/resonance, not worth at all as a stand alone mod.
:cheers:
Originally posted by Gleistung
On our VAMAG rolling road, our tuned Ibiza TDI130 with 177bhp (flashed ecu + EGR off + CCV bypass) gained ~5bhp from an open cone filter, all gains from 3.500RPM up to the redline. I think the restriction on the Beezer is on the limited airbox size/volume rather than the filter itself..
On the exhaust side (to be tested soon) if you gain a similar figure will be quite an achievement, as Iīve seen before de-cated Supersprint complete exhaust systems dynoing +3bhp on a tuned Ibiza TDI110. ;)
De-cating usually gives between 1-3bhp and some nasty added noise/resonance, not worth at all as a stand alone mod.
:cheers:
Can't a pd 150 airbox be fitted? I think it's the biggest one VAG has at the moment.
Gleistung
05-03-2003, 13:31
Originally posted by prc
Can't a pd 150 airbox be fitted? I think it's the biggest one VAG has at the moment.
Nope.. the airbox is smaller and differently shaped in comparison to the other VAG TDI115/130/150/1.8T/ airboxes... that is due to a smaller engine compartment. ;)
Looks like the suspensions going on hold as variant 1 is 750euros + vat and variant 2 is 900euras + vat.
to much for me to spend right know especially since the bilstein shocks aren't even 6 months old yet.