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So much for the reliability of Seat / VW products. A 2 month old TDI 130 sport in this case.
Coming back from Perth on the M74 last night (Friday 2 May), turn off at Abington, junction 13 I think (unlucky for some!!!) to pick up fuel and decide after this, not to continue on the motorway... but to take the old A702 over the hills (lucky for me as it turns out). About a mile after the garage services and just coming out of Abington itself, clatter, clatter, clatter. What's this me thinks, as the engine prompty stalls and I glide to a halt! Turn ignition and all I get is a "thunk". Almost like the starter motor is jammed on/in (while in motion!!!???). Thank FECK I was not doing 85 MPH (sorry... 70 MPH) in the outside lane of the motorway at the time.....
Phone Seat assist, no details of the car in their database.... GREAT. Probably the private plate (even though on the car when picked up). Just takes the details and phones back 2 minutes later and says "someone will be with you in 30 minute sir". Ten minutes latter, the AA man appears. Now that was good service.
The guy says "your engines seized mate". Might just be the starter jammed in for some reason, but it wont budge. So a tow home and I now have of course got to wait till Tuesday until the garage opens for business.
Anyone else had any similar problems????
:( :( :(
Bugger Mike :(
Is a jammed in starter going to break anything major? :confused:
Chri5B
A good point. I hope not, could not have been doing much more than 20 MPH at the time, as just pulled out of a juntion and still in a 30 limit. Mind you, if it's a new engine, then so be it, as long as it's a warranty job. Though I shall be looking for a damn good explanation as to what's happened / why and some guarantee that I'm not going to get a repeat...
Never had any of my Subarus break down. Come to think about it, the only other unreliable car I've ever had, was a VW Golf 16v mk3. Emmmm
I'll post when I know what's actually up. A good job we have a second car...
:( :( :(
You win some, you lose some I guess. Oil seals went on the turbo in my Scooby - most expensive bill I've had for any car I've every owned.
More information would be very useful, although I doubt there's much we could do with it to maybe prevent it hapening on other cars.
Sorry to hear about this. I will be very interested to hear what the garage has to say about it.
Yoinks :(
I guess the starter solenoid could have been activated ~ if it managed to engage you'd get some nasty clatter as it spun at engine rpm (much faster than it should).
Shouldn't do a lot of damage if that is the case. New starter motor, and (worst case) new flywheel if the ring-gear is mangled.
Not good though.... :(
mark sheerin
05-05-2003, 08:19
Nice to see SEAT assist just as good with you..
My car conked out last Bank Holiday Monday..
Seat assist had AA there in half an hour...towed car away..dropping me off for a hire car at their expense..car fixed next day..(coilpacks)...My car is 2 1/2 yrs old..thumbs up to the 3 yr warranty.
Surely the AA should have whipped the starter motor out to see if that was the problem though...? They must have access to a 130 PD starter motor on a Bank Holiday weekend with their legendary ability to find parts.
Hi guys... local dealer open, so gives em a phone. Not very impressed that "I'm" told to phone Seat Assist and arrange for car to be transported from my home (garage closed by the time we got back on Friday night)to their garage. I sort of assumed that they would take responsibilty... along the lines of "we'll arrange to have it picked up Mike". Now that's what "I" call service. Also told by Seat Assist that I'm not entitled to a loan car, as I'm being recovered from home (errrr.... yes... but I was not at home when the F@@@ing thing broke down in the first place). Though dealer has since said that a loan car from them "should be" no problem. I've access to another car at the moment, so I suppose that it's not really a problem. Not the point though.
The 2nd AA man poo poo'd the "starter motor" failure suggestion and said he would put a bet on the fact the oil pump has failed and fecked the engine. I await with interest to find out what's really wrong.
I'll keep you all informed.
Finally got fed up with waiting for the garage to call, so phoned them myself. Engine currently in bits and it's a broken valve stem that's dropped into the cylinder and seized the engine. At least Seat have agreed to a new engine, 7/10 days to deliver and 2/3 days to fit. Bet I'll be lucky to see it back this month. Lets hope this is a "one off" problem.
TBC:(
Bugger that sounds a bit nasty.
Still, sounds like you're getting a shiny new engine. I hope for everyones sake its a one time only seriously unlucky thing to happen, and not a problem we all end up seeing.
mark sheerin
09-05-2003, 00:20
Ah the old dropped valve...had a few in my day...
Sure its not spring failure..dropping the valve leaving it to get snapped and mashed by a piston interface..
Have to change my kart valve springs every race to prevent just such a failure
surprised they've said new engine....could be fixed with all the right bits..??
muddyboots
09-05-2003, 07:34
Originally posted by Rage
I hope for everyones sake its a one time only seriously unlucky thing to happen, and not a problem we all end up seeing.
I'd guess it is a one off - seeing as these engines are in widespread use across the Seat/VW/Audi/Skoda range I expect we'd have heard by now if it was a common problem.
I doubt whether rebuilding the existing engine is really worth it; if the engine was turning at any rate I expect the valve has mashed up the piston, head and bores to some degree, so it'd be quicker to drop a new engine in.
Bad luck MikeO !
Bad luck sir! :(
Still ~ at least you get a new engine :thumbsup: to run in again :thumbdown:
Gleistung
09-05-2003, 11:34
Humm...never heard of such a problem before.. I“m sure, also due to the youth of the seized engine, it was dues to a manufacturing defect.
Bad luck mate!
Thanks for the replies guys (and girls?).
I expect that as you say, it aint a common failure, as this (or a variation of the engine) has been going for yonks and is used across loads of diffent makes / models.
Though must admit that I just finished writing a letter to SEAT UK having a little moan about this. Plus a dig about them never getting back to me re the "free insurance" offer. Also added a query re the "strange" choice of springs/dampers in the car. Be interested to see what (if any) sort of reply I get. I would like to think they will take if on the chin and at least be bothered to answer me this time! AT least Seat assist and the local dealer have been pretty good / helpful.
TBC
O'hum... another week and a half gone by and still no sign of a new engine from Seat. NOT IMPRESSED.
The only saving grace in all this, is that the local Seat dealer (Reid & Adams of Dumfries) has been pretty good. Had to take the hire car back today (paid for by Seat Assist me thinks), thank God! Got to have been one of the most boring cars that I've ever driven, a Nissan Almara 1.5 S (NB. S does not = Sport). Dealer came round and has now loaned me an Arosa 1.4 16v sport. Nippy little motor and a bit more fun to drive. Not bad suspension and ride either. Now that's something like what my Ibiza sport should ride like! Sport in this case does = reasonably firm ride (but still complient).
When speaking to their service manager today, he admitted that after initially being given a quote of 7 working days to supply a new engine, they were now not even willing to estimate a delivery time. Again NOT IMPRESSED.
Seat UK have at least replied to my letter about this issue, plus a couple of others. So lets see if their "we will look into this and get back shortly" ends in a happy ending.
Cars...
PS. If someone from SEAT UK reads this, can they do us a favour and rattle a couple of cages for me and see if a new engine drops out.
muddyboots
20-05-2003, 08:48
I remember when I ordered my car from Wim, he said the delivery times could be quite long on the TDI 130 models because of demand for the engine. A colleague who bought a Passat TDI 130 also had to wait ages for the same reason.
So maybe they're in quite short supply, and this is why they won't even estimate a delivery time now.
Given the severity of the fault and the car only being a couple of months old, maybe Seat should be looking at supplying you a new car ?
Perhaps you should drop a letter to What Car - they often have cases like this, and seem to be good at resolving problems. After all, Seat don't want the bad press do they...
Out of interest, what mileage had it done ?
Muddyboots
A good point about the popularity of that particular engine.
The car had just turned 1,000 miles (2 month old) and I was just starting to think about really putting my foot down... when.... BANG goes the engine.
I'm going away for a week from this coming Saturday (plenty of good drivers roads ahead)and if there's not been any movement by the time I get back... then I shall be giving some thought as to the best way to progress this. I can't quite remember what the "sale of goods act" says about this sort of thing, but I am aware that it has been tightened up considerably to cover major problems in cars etc. Hopefully not need to go down this road, but.................
At last... SEAT UK phones me this afternoon. A rather nice sounding young lady tells me how sorry they are etc. etc.
First they offer me a " bigger" loan car. Lets face it, bigger than a SEAT Arosa aint difficult. I said "thanks, but no thanks". The current 1.4 sport is a hoot to drive and I'm quite happy with it for a couple of weeks. Then told that the "target date" for ETA of a new engine is the 6th June! O'well, at least I have a date now. Even if it does mean my car will have been sitting at the dealers for the best part of a month. They are also considering the other points that I mentioned and will get back to me. Be interested to see how it all pans out. At least they appear to have taken it on the chin and got their fingers out. Though the final proof will be how it "does" all pan out. Score one for SEAT UK at the moment.
Watch this space, as they say.
kinghorna
28-05-2003, 08:39
Originally posted by muddyboots
I remember when I ordered my car from Wim, he said the delivery times could be quite long on the TDI 130 models because of demand for the engine. A colleague who bought a Passat TDI 130 also had to wait ages for the same reason.
So maybe they're in quite short supply, and this is why they won't even estimate a delivery time now.
I'm not sure there are too many problems with getting these engines, I ordered mine 26/02/03 and was ready for me to pick up at 13/03/03.
muddyboots
28-05-2003, 10:15
I got the impression that the TDI 130's were built in batches every so often; I too was lucky that I got mine quite quickly, I think I managed to get my order in just as the next batch were being built.
I know a few others who waited 6-7 months for theirs to be built.
Wim said that this was a special case for the TDI 130 models, delivery times were quicker and more consistent on the other models.
O'dear, dear, dear.....
Can't say I'm too impressed with my SEAT ownership experience so far. STILL waiting for a new engine for my new car, The 6th June comes and goes, so does the 10th and now it's this Saturday!!! That will be the best part of 6 FECKING weeks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To add insult to injury, driving back from Edinburgh this evening, after a gruelling job interview and what happens..... hard to believe but... on comes the "engine check light" on my little SEAT Arosa 1.4 sport. Phone garage (luckily still open) and they say "no problems sir, if it breaks down it's covered by SEAT ASSIST".
SEAT UK has already said that they are going to make a "gesture" to try and rebuild my trust etc. in SEAT. The way things are going, it's going to have to be some sort of FECKING gesture, I can tell you!
If it sounds like I'm getting pretty p1ssed off, it's because I am.
If that engine does not arrive this Saturday, then they are going to be getting a letter from my solicitor demanding a replacement car.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
slim_boy_fat
13-06-2003, 07:46
Originally posted by MikeO
O'dear, dear, dear.....
Can't say I'm too impressed with my SEAT ownership experience so far. STILL waiting for a new engine for my new car, The 6th June comes and goes, so does the 10th and now it's this Saturday!!! That will be the best part of 6 FECKING weeks !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To add insult to injury, driving back from Edinburgh this evening, after a gruelling job interview and what happens..... hard to believe but... on comes the "engine check light" on my little SEAT Arosa 1.4 sport. Phone garage (luckily still open) and they say "no problems sir, if it breaks down it's covered by SEAT ASSIST".
SEAT UK has already said that they are going to make a "gesture" to try and rebuild my trust etc. in SEAT. The way things are going, it's going to have to be some sort of FECKING gesture, I can tell you!
If it sounds like I'm getting pretty p1ssed off, it's because I am.
If that engine does not arrive this Saturday, then they are going to be getting a letter from my solicitor demanding a replacement car.
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Prob the best thing to do would be sell the car when you get it back or try and get a refund and move on to another brand. Sounds like you would be much happier. Try japanese cars they seem to be pretty reliable. Or alternativly ask then to put the 3.2V6 from the R32 in it instead.
Gleistung
13-06-2003, 09:11
Jap cars rules..at least reliability wise!
I used to own a 95 Mazda MX5 1.8 that covered over 100k miles in 5 years without a single glitch, and I mean none, zero problems, not even had to replace a single lamp..just oil and (a lot) of gas.
But my passion are german built cars (VAG, BMW, Porsche) even if I have to admit that they“re not as reliable as most jap cars. ;)
Well it could be worse I guess, for instance I could have a thing about italian cars.. :D
So good luck with your Beezer, wheter you keep it or not! ;)
Want to know what the "real" joke is... I sold my Scooby for this car! Mainly because of running costs and at that point of time, being out of work. I had assumed that I was buying into something reliable and cheap to run. Yes, I know that I've probably just been VERY unlucky but after three Scoobs and 100k+ miles of trouble free motoring, this has come as a bit of a shock. The loan car (another SEAT) has not impressed me with the engine check light coming on when I'm the best part of 100 miles from home and bl00dy knackered!
Up untill the engine "blew up" I had been reasonablt pleased with the car as an overall package. Except for the suspension and I think that needs a bit of work! (being generous here me thinks).
The latest from SEAT UK, is that the new engine WILL arrive tomorrow at the garage. We shall see.
TBC :(
Gleistung
14-06-2003, 20:16
I personally know two guys with scoobies, one of wich stock that has blown the turbo and the other chipped that has blown the engine (broken crankshaft).. Both were obviously very disappointed and will not buy again a Subaru.. ;)
My point is that luck has a lot to do with it, and you just seemed to have run out of your good luck (momentarly..I hope) with your Beezer.
:cheers:
At last....
Things may be starting to look up. Stopped in the local SEAT garage on the way back from an interview today and amazingly... my new engine did arrive last Saturday and they are in the process of fitting it. Hopefully ready by Friday... We shall see.
Had a long sit down with the salesguy and discussed the car. He appeared genuinely interested in my opinion of re - moving over to a diesel. I also discussed the "short comings" of the suspension in it and mentioned that I was still awaiting a comment from SEAT UK as to whether "they" can offer any assistance here. We shall see...
I've almost (almost) grown attached to my Arsosa sport hire car. I still can't get over the number of people on the road that seem to think that because it's a "small" car, that it will only be driven slowly. The number of people that I've had (normal folks, as well as the usual nutters you find on the roads these days) that try to blast past me as I come out of a 30 limit, still has me amazed. Almost as amazed me thinks, as the people who try this trick are, when I put my foot down and manage to quite easily pull away from your average family saloon. It even handles half decent.
TBC
guess you'll miss not raking around a car that isnt yours and you dont have to pay to keep it running (ie tyres and drive shafts!!) :D
slim_boy_fat
18-06-2003, 09:59
Originally posted by MikeO
At last....
Things may be starting to look up. Stopped in the local SEAT garage on the way back from an interview today and amazingly... my new engine did arrive last Saturday and they are in the process of fitting it. Hopefully ready by Friday... We shall see.
I also discussed the "short comings" of the suspension in it and mentioned that I was still awaiting a comment from SEAT UK as to whether "they" can offer any assistance here. We shall see...
So are you going to keep the Ibiza, maybe get the Seat sport suspention fitted? You should hang off for a great deal on a Cupra R tdi. get then to give you what you paid for the 130 and pay the diff in a year or when ever it comes out.
Hope your back on the road soon.
SBF
With regards to whether I am going to keep the car. Depends on a) if the garage gets the job done Right First Time. Because if they dont... my patience will come to an end! and b) I'm looking for SEAT UK to come up with with some suggestion re - suspension (preferably that involves them in putting their hand in their pocket!).
To quote Autocar "there is a land mark car in there somewhere", it's just spoiled by the suspension / ride quality.
I'd quite like to see a happy ending in this story. But my gut tells me there wont be! I'd very much like to be proved wrong.
Lady from SEAT UK phones this morning, to say that car ready tomorrow, or Friday. I did not bother to mention that I had already spoken to the garage and knew this. Just a little suspicious that SEAT UK wont be drawn into any discussion regarding either of the other points that I've brought up with then (IE. the free insurance that I appear to have missed out on and the suspension "issue")... until "after" I pick the car up. Maybe I'll get a nice surprise and be proved wrong. We can but hope.
TBC
slim_boy_fat
18-06-2003, 23:28
Originally posted by MikeO
SBF
With regards to whether I am going to keep the car. Depends on a) if the garage gets the job done Right First Time. Because if they dont... my patience will come to an end! and b) I'm looking for SEAT UK to come up with with some suggestion re - suspension (preferably that involves them in putting their hand in their pocket!).
To quote Autocar "there is a land mark car in there somewhere", it's just spoiled by the suspension / ride quality.
I'd quite like to see a happy ending in this story. But my gut tells me there wont be! I'd very much like to be proved wrong.
(IE. the free insurance that I appear to have missed out on and the suspension "issue")... until "after" I pick the car up. Maybe I'll get a nice surprise and be proved wrong. We can but hope.
TBC
You certanly should have go your free insurance, cant understand how you missed that one. As for the suspention, did you drive the car before you bought it? Yes its stiff but as with everything there is a balance between comfort and sport. Maybe its just a bit on the stiff side for you. Maybe you should have bought the TDIse or a big sofa out of Ikia!!
The car corners pretty flat, would be even better if it was 25-30mm lower.
Sea have put a new engine in, i dont know how much damage was done but they might have been able to repair the old one. If i was you and you wanted to keep the car i would push for them to pay for a maintenance contract (Service,maint & tyres) for 10k per year. Thats worth about £22 per month.
CAnt see why they would do anything about the suspention.
No question the 130tdi sport is a landmark car, nothing else can touch it for all round ability except made the 320d and its £22k. At £13.5k its one of the best value hot hatches ever.
Hope its resolved to your satisfaction, it will give us all faith in SEAT UK if it is, as Seat have yet to prove themselves in this country.
hydebear
19-06-2003, 10:12
Sadly I don't think Seat will go as far as you want - from bitter experience (21 visits to various dealers over 30 months and more than 100 days off road - all with the same fault) I was offered a paltry £500 off the price of a new car
Stupidly I accepted and my 130TDI is on its way, albeit a few days later than the garage promised. I'm hoping the car restores my faith in the brand as neither the dealers I have encountered nor Seat customer services seem able to really provide real customer satisfaction and support....
slim_boy_fat
19-06-2003, 11:01
Originally posted by hydebear
Sadly I don't think Seat will go as far as you want - from bitter experience (21 visits to various dealers over 30 months and more than 100 days off road - all with the same fault) I was offered a paltry £500 off the price of a new car
Stupidly I accepted and my 130TDI is on its way, albeit a few days later than the garage promised. I'm hoping the car restores my faith in the brand as neither the dealers I have encountered nor Seat customer services seem able to really provide real customer satisfaction and support....
Yes its just a shame Seat cant match Audi levels of customer service.
£500!! so what did you pay for the car? £13,300....? I would have taken £500 cheque then negotiated with the dealer to get the best price. I think MickO is dreaming if he thinks he is going to get the Seat sport suspention put on, but hope i am wrong.
hydebear
19-06-2003, 14:25
Sorry !
It was £500 off the invoice price of the car (not list price) so in fact I did quite well (7% discount, 3.9% finance, mats, fuel and chrome dashboard trimmings thrown in too, plus some kind of paintwork and upholstry protector, as well as the £500 and free insurance)
Even so, still cost me £500 to settle the finance on the old car (a Leon) which I still believe Seat should have coughed up for, as they were unable to effect any lasting repair and the car became undriveable.
Just pity the poor sod who buys it next...!
SBF
Thanks for the comments. But I don't really consider the suspension / ride to be "that" sporting at all. I suppose it depends a lot on what car/s you've come from. Me.. my previous three cars were Subaru Impreza WRX's. So to a certain extent, I know what a firm / sporting ride should be like and I'm sorry, but the Ibiza TDI130 aint that "sporty". In my opinion (and that's all it is)the Arosa 1.4 sport rides a 100% better than the Ibiza (got this as a loan car)... and no, I don't want one as a full time motor. As commented by a number of folks on this board, the main problem appears to be that they've married fairly "soft" springs with firm shocks. So you get a fair amount of "rebound" and that this gets pulled up suddenly by the firm shocks. Well... that's what it feels like to me. I would much rather have a firm set of springs and shocks. Along the lines of what I would have assumed would have been the standard set up in the car.
As to expecting SEAT to replace / revise the suspension for nothing, I very much doubt that they would. As you say, why would they! All I'm really looking for here, is for SEAT UK to come back to me and tell me whether the "sports suspension" pack that appears to be available for this mk of the Ibiza, suits the diesel variant. Information that I've been unable, as yet, to obtain from anyone. If (if) they were prepared to offer this for trade, or with a discount, as a gesture of goodwill... then so much the better. But quite prepared to put my own money down.
As to test driving the car beforehand. Got to hold my hand up and say "no I did not". I tested the model below. As my only real worry at that point, was whether I would be happy with a diesel engined car. As the SE model rode / handled reasonably OK (well a bit soft etc.) I assumed that the sport would just be spung a bit stiffer. My mistake as it turns out. Dealer also did not have a sport demo and the next nearest dealer is 50/60 miles away.
Got to admit that the loacal dealer has been pretty good about it. They phoned this afternoon to say car just about ready, currently being valeted and will phone in the morning to arrange pick up.
Agree with your comment about the free insurance. I think I just slipped through the net. Though don't think there are any excuses for SEAT UK to ignore two previous Emails that I sent regarding this. SO be VERY surprised if they don't remedy this at least.
I'll let you know how I get on tomorrow. The lady from SEAT UK is also going to "talk me through" their "goodwill gesture". Be interested to see how it pans out. I've just about managed to keep my sense of humour about all this...
TBC
O'well... got the car back this morning and all appears OK. Nice and clean and tidy as well. Lets hope that's the last of my problems. Fingers crossed.
The lady from SEAT UK is going to phone me after a couple of days to check that all is well and talk through their "gesture of good will".
TBC ;)
yep, the standard suspension is not up to it, Many have said this.
I would not just change the springs. I have fitted kw variant2, its quite nice now.
I would not want to go with the seat sport kit.
Darren
This should be with any luck, my last post on this issue. Car appears to be running well again and after a couple of long trips, all would seem to be OK. SEAT UK have offered me three years free servicing as a "gesture of goodwill". So no need to mention, that I accepted this.
Still have not been able to find out from SEAT UK if the suspension kit that they offer, suits the diesel IBIZA. But then again, neither has my local dealer! I think that SEAT UK needs to examine it's "lines of communication". As they appear somewhat lacking! Also not been able to find out yet why I appear to have missed out on the "free insurance" offer that was running at the time of purchase. So yet another letter in the post to SEAT UK. I'd prefer to get a SEAT upgrade to try and remedy the "bouncy castle" suspension, but if they can't... then I shall go the third party route. TBC
I'd prefer to get a SEAT upgrade to try and remedy the "bouncy castle" suspension, but if they can't... then I shall go the third party route.
Having done some very extensive testing in Wales this weekend chasing various Scoobies, a Leon Cupra and a nicely modified Octavia RS on all manner of A, B and unclassified roads, my priorities are:
1) Brakes. Try as I might (and chasing Scoobies was mostly foot to boards in every gear I could grab) I couldn't fade them. Mind, they just never seemed to get going to start with. I hope some 3rd party pads become available soon.
2) Suspension. My sphincter has almost got used to the sensation of the undertray bottoming out as you anchor on. When I was chasing the 'Tavia RS, he commented I was bouncing around a lot.
Chri5b
Nice to hear someone else use the word "bounce". I did Dumfries, Lockerbie, Langholm, Hawick, Jedburgh at the weekend. A nice run, one I've done loads of times in the Scoobs but first time in the Seat and boy was it bouncing around on the Lockerbie to Langholm road. Great twisty road but had to back off a bit, as it was actually making me feel a little sick! Cars back in the garage on Tuesday for a once over to make sure all the new bits (of which there are obviously many!) are still tight etc. So will pressure the garage to chase SEAT up again re the suspension kit they do.
Now brakes... Tend to also agree that after what appears like an initial "sharp" action, they aint that effective. Though think I'd like to get the suspension sorted first.
I don't know... there's me willing to spend my own hard earned money on yet another SEAT product and they can't be arsed to get back to either me, or the garage. Strange way to do business.
TBC
It happens... I recently had the engine go bang in a 2 yr old Celica...
And Toyota are suposed to be reliable. They did build me a new engine under warranty and lent me a car while it was being done, but was still a but inconvenient at the time.
Luckily I was doing 70 mph so I could just whack the clutch in and coast 1/2 mile to the next layby.
Hate to think what would have happened if I'd only been doing 20 mph :D
Getting my Cupra R tomorrow! Rahhh!
Mike
Glad u got your motor back and can start enjoying the TDI power again.
Hope it proves as reliable as it should have in the first place.
Enjoy.
Mike,
I've just mailed one of my local Seat dealers re the Seat Sports suspension kit. Will post back if they get back to me - they are a new franchise, so fingers crossed.
Chris.
O'hum... after getting an acknowledgement of my last letter to SEAT UK (asking about the suspension kit for the Ibiza and if suitable for the TDI130) another week later, no follow up. Mind you, it did take then a fair while to get back to me when my engine blew up, so maybe I'm being a little impatient! Though they still have not got back to my local dealer and they Emailed them a good couple of weeks ago. What a way to do business... While I appreciate that I'm not their only customer, their response times do appear a little long!!! So... Emailed them via their WEB site, mind you, I've tried this before and been ignored... maybe I'll be luckier this time.
I'll give then another couple of weeks and if still "no show". I'm going to go third party and phone someone like Falkland performance centre and sod the warranty.
Little wonder that the UK economy is a pile of poo.
:( :(
jacknelle
15-07-2003, 22:40
Originally posted by Chri5B
Mike,
I've just mailed one of my local Seat dealers re the Seat Sports suspension kit. Will post back if they get back to me - they are a new franchise, so fingers crossed.
Chris.
I think this is the part no. for the Suspension kit for the Ibiza TDI: 6L0071690. I took the number from the SEAT.com site. Its different to the number for the Mk3 model. I got my local dealership to look it up on his computer and it came up available for purchase. So I guess you could just go in and order it. I'm definitely gonna go for it as soon as funds allow.
Some other accessory part nos. whilst I'm at it, all from SEAT.com (not .co.uk):
Suspension, TDi : 6L0071690
Strut brace : 6L0071710
OZ 17" ET 43, 5x100 PCD : 6L0071491
Alloy door pins : 6L0099003
Alloy filler cap : 6L0064700
Alloy vent surrounds : 6L0072300
CD storage box (4) : 6L0061131
Black touch-up : KPC9Z00M01
Note the zeros may be "O"s ?
jacknelle
Thanks for your comments. I've had a look at what I suppose is the European site, rather than the UK site and yes... it does seem to specifically say that it's for the TDI Ibiza's. Though this is infact the same part no. as the kit given in the UK site. I'll give SEAT UK till the end of the week to come back to me. Failing this, I'll pop into my local dealer next week, with a print of the appropriate WEB page... and say "order one of these for me mate".
TBC
PS. Looks like there are quite a few things available in other countries, that are not available over here. I wonder why? Surely this is "missed business" ??? Strange....
[QUOTE]OZ 17" ET 43, 5x100 PCD : 6L0071491
dont no what the spec of these wheels are, most prob a 7J, I would not go for a ET43 thats the standard.
I would go for a 35-38 when running a 7J wheel.
Darren
I wouldn't change the offset too much as you'll have trouble lowering it. You may find that the point where the arch liner is secured to the outer edge of the arch will cause problems. I speak from experience.