Millers Diesel Additive

[seremotors]

We are pleased to stock Millers Diesel Additive and offer 500ml bottles to SCN members for £9 delivered. I use this in my own FR to compensate for cheap, poor quality diesel and previously in other vehicles - read the info below and give it a go . . . .

Diesel Power Sport 4

DESCRIPTION:
"Performance diesel fuel treatment for enhanced combustion efficiency in all diesel engines, especially modern Euro IV-compliant types."

APPLICATION:
By addition to fuel in the ratio 1 part to 1000 parts [1ml/1L].
One bottle treats 500 Litres of fuel.
May also be used at double strength for additional performance.

USER BENEFITS:
"Millers Diesel Power Sport 4 is a modern state of the art fuel treatment that is suitable for all diesel engines, especially those with Diesel Particulate Filters and all Euro IV emissions compliant vehicles, providing a tangible improvement to vehicle performance.

INCREASES POWER
• Increases up to 17.5% BHP

REDUCES EMISSIONS
• Up to 70% less exhaust smoke
• Up to 20% less carbon emissions

INCREASES MPG
• Up to 7% economy improvements

CLEANS INJECTORS

• Increases cetane by up to 4 numbers
• Improves throttle response
• Wear protection
• Fuel system corrosion control
• Easier starting, quieter, smoother running engine
• Prevents fuel from ageing"

PERFORMANCE PROFILE:


TYPICAL CHARACTERISTICS:
Density @ 15oC
0.936

HEALTH AND SAFETY:
"Health and Safety Data Sheet 2633-1 applies to this product. When used for the purpose recommended and with due regard to the appropriate Health and Safety Data, the product should cause no concern. If in doubt, consult with Millers Oils Technical Department."

[seremotors]

still on offer - any more takers ;)

[trebormint]

do you stock the 5ltr bottles?

[leonbtcc140]

David can you keep two bottles for me and I will collect from you when I pick up the other Parts that you are getting me..

[dholdi]

I've just had a bottle from you via ebay, if this price is about to run out I would be interested in a couple more.

[seremotors]

thanks for the response guys - i have stock and price stands as long as Millers dont raise the rrp
anyone interested in a 5 litre 'bottle' i can sell for £53 delivered

[alx_chung]

Hey David,

I am interested in a couple of bottles as I am running low.
Alex

[seremotors]

sorry i should have said - orders can be placed via pm or just ringing me on 028 90205115 :doh:

[alx_chung]

PM Sent :D
Alex

[trebormint]

thanks for the response guys - i have stock and price stands as long as Millers dont raise the rrp
anyone interested in a 5 litre 'bottle' i can sell for £53 delivered

Very interested at £53 delivered :)

[trebormint]

PM sent :)

[leonbtcc140]

Thanks To seremotors for the quick and helpfull service, Picked my Millers and a few other parts that he was getting me this morning. TOP JOB MATE

[andyj]

Damn, should have added a couple of bottles of this to the parts order David sent me last week ;)

That reminds me, I need to sort out payment for it ;) :d

[Toxic]

David if you still have some left, I'll take a couple of bottles! should be off monday or tuesday next week so could call in and collect if possible.

[seremotors]

still have stock and have readvertised elsewhere - buy direct here, it saves you a few quid

[ChrisGTL]

Glad to see your all liking the DPS4.

Hell yeah!

[Toxic]

David... if your in on Monday i'll call in then.

[seremotors]

David... if your in on Monday i'll call in then.

Simon no problem. If you want to get me, Im always at 07800 818276. work line can be busy. Better to give me a quick call or text just to check Im on site.

[seremotors]

Very interested at £53 delivered :)

sorry i think i missed your pm :redface: def not like me :doh:

[Ni Cupra]

you dont stock the millers octane booster by any chance as well?

thanks, Rab.

[seremotors]

you dont stock the millers octane booster by any chance as well?

thanks, Rab.

Yes no problems - I sell it for £4 a bottle but have no need for it now myself :lol:

[Toxic]

David, do you have any Miller Diesel Sport 4 left? need a couple of bottles. if you have i'll collect them on monday. cheers.

[Toxic]

Any of this left David? talked to the guys at work they all want some now:)

looking approx 10 to 15 bottles :-o if you have stock can you pm me a price for this? cheers:)

[seremotors]

Any of this left David? talked to the guys at work they all want some now:)

looking approx 10 to 15 bottles :-o if you have stock can you pm me a price for this? cheers:)

nice one, will order more tomoro. gave up selling it on ebay as fees got silly. should put you on commission :lol:

[Toxic]

nice one, will order more tomoro. gave up selling it on ebay as fees got silly. should put you on commission :lol:

you done me enough favours thought I'd pay ya back with some help in hard times:)

i'll get exact figures tomorrow and then i'll let you know. I have 12 definitely, and if price is good could have a few more ;)

[seremotors]

gent :thumbup:

[mhoult]

I'dlove two bottles if you have any left.

Thanks

[johnsface]

Could i get a bottle aswel if poss?

[Toxic]

I think he still has some left, I grabbed 10 today :whistle:

[seremotors]

sorry for late reply, under pressure at work . . . .
plenty available

[mhoult]

Are you happy for me to pay by paypal and send my address through?

Regards

Mark.

[seremotors]

Are you happy for me to pay by paypal and send my address through?

Regards

Mark.


no problem. my paypal is hawthornedb@yahoo.co.uk
just be sure you have read the thread fully - the octane booster is £4 a bottle, diesel additive is £9 a bottle

[mhoult]

£18 paid via paypal, address also included in the paypal payment.

Thanks

[seremotors]

£18 paid via paypal, address also included in the paypal payment.

Thanks

sorted, many thanks :)

[mhill]

Yes no problems - I sell it for £4 a bottle but have no need for it now myself :lol:

Is that £4 including delivery?

Would there be much point in using this with V Power in a 2.0TFSI that has done under 2k?

[Jim H]

I don't know what Seat has in their handbooks, but in my Skoda Fabia one it states "You must not use fuel additives, so-called “flow improvers” (petrol and similar products) in diesel fuel."

I'm sure you as a dealer would not fail to comply with the manufacture instructions and promote these additives.

Having said that I myself use Millers DPS4 in my Furby vRS and have had no problems, I would of course remove the bottle, if I took it back to Skoda for a service or with a problem.

[seremotors]

I don't know what Seat has in their handbooks, but in my Skoda Fabia one it states "You must not use fuel additives, so-called “flow improvers” (petrol and similar products) in diesel fuel."

I'm sure you as a dealer would not fail to comply with the manufacture instructions and promote these additives.

Having said that I myself use Millers DPS4 in my Furby vRS and have had no problems, I would of course remove the bottle, if I took it back to Skoda for a service or with a problem.

As a direct result of the legal argument quoted here by Jim H -
'I'm sure you as a dealer would not fail to comply with the manufacture instructions and promote these additives'
we will no longer be selling Millers DPS4 from the dealership.
It is really disheartening when people only want to pick holes in what we do but we cant run the risk of someone going down this road even though I use this product myself and have full confidence in it.
However if anyone wants to buy DPS4 off me personally, I will continue to sell it as a private individual.

[seremotors]

Is that £4 including delivery?

Would there be much point in using this with V Power in a 2.0TFSI that has done under 2k?

Yep price includes delivery. The value in additives such as this is directly related to the quality of fuel it is mixed with. It will help immensely with supermarket fuel, which is not great, but isnt recommended with say BP Ultimate which is hugely better than standard stuff. I remember my old 2-stroke motorbike days where using Silkolene Pro-Boost it was dead easy to put holes in pistons by using too much lol
Ref Jim H's post I am being very careful what I say . . . . . .
Best do your own research.

[Toxic]

we will no longer be selling Millers DPS4 from the dealership.
It is really disheartening when people only want to pick holes in what we do but we cant run the risk of someone going down this road even though I use this product myself and have full confidence in it.
However if anyone wants to buy DPS4 off me personally, I will continue to sell it as a private individual.

Wow you had me worried there:) Thank you David for still selling this yourself. :clap:

:seatgod:

[MarkWales]

gutted just paid £13 for half a litre of diesel sport 4

[seremotors]

gutted just paid £13 for half a litre of diesel sport 4

Ah man, I have been selling it for over a year on ebay, here, and at work for £8-£10 a bottle. Its cheapest direct via SCN as most of my stuff sold here is at pretty much cost price plus a very small margin as a 'service' to other enthusiasts. Shame not everybody sees it that way :(

[seremotors]

Wow you had me worried there:) Thank you David for still selling this yourself. :clap:

:seatgod:

Haha would I do that to you??????
I sell to much of it to stop now, even tho no real money is made on it. I just love shafting Halfords and selling stuff for sensible prices :)

[andyj]

:thumbup:

Now that's what I call top service ;)

Don't need any for the minute (got 2 bottles to go through) but I'll give you a shout when I do ;)

[Jim H]

As I mentioned, I do not own a Seat, but a Skoda, so can please someone go, check and RTFM their handbook/manual to see if fuel additives are mentioned. Of course if it's not, I have no problem in you selling it. I'm sure I heard that one of the Skoda dealers use some fuel or oil additive in their engines whilst carrying out a service. I may be getting mixed up with Awesome GTI that does or can.

I did not mean that adding these were illegal, but mentioned it was just dis-approved by Skoda.

Something else: Has the normal price of DSP4 gone up in the last few months? I bought a bottle today and it was £10, in October it was only £7.50 at my local Motor Factors in Redcar, N.E England. I suppose it is still cheaper than Halfrauds.

[seremotors]

As I mentioned, I do not own a Seat, but a Skoda, so can please someone go, check and RTFM their handbook/manual to see if fuel additives are mentioned. Of course if it's not, I have no problem in you selling it. I'm sure I heard that one of the Skoda dealers use some fuel or oil additive in their engines whilst carrying out a service. I may be getting mixed up with Awesome GTI that does or can.

I did not mean that adding these were illegal, but mentioned it was just dis-approved by Skoda.

Something else: Has the normal price of DSP4 gone up in the last few months? I bought a bottle today and it was £10, in October it was only £7.50 at my local Motor Factors in Redcar, N.E England. I suppose it is still cheaper than Halfrauds.

The only additives regularly used by dealers are oil change engine flushes and fuel system cleansers. I used to argue regularly with my Service counterpart that these were a scam and pretty much unnecessary. Why need an engine flush unless the oil hasnt been changed for years and is like treacle? Why need a fuel cleanser when most modern fuel already contains it? Worth mentioning that these were dealer add-ons to maximise profit, NOT manufacturer recommendations.
Millers is different as it boosts poor-to-average quality diesel to an optimum level which almost every manufacturer's performance figure is based on - very few advertised mpg and mph figures can be achieved in the real world outside factory-perfect conditions.
Anyway, the legal argument is there and I dont want anyone confusing genuine parts with aftermarket products. The bottom line is that if you fit parts or use products not specifically endorsed by your vehicle manufacturer, if a problem ever arises you will need to pursue the product manufacturer NOT the carmaker.
As for price, every seller chooses their own selling price based on their cost. It sells for £9-£15 depending on where you buy it. Ironic that the bulk purchasers probably buy it cheapest and sell it dearest . . . . . . .

[Toxic]

I wonder if all Dealers allow / condone the use of Shell V+ or BP ultimate? these have "additives" as extra on top of normal fuel. surely putting in an additive or buying fuel with an additive already in it is just the same.

my 2cents worth.

[ChrisGTL]

I wonder if all Dealers allow / condone the use of Shell V+ or BP ultimate? these have "additives" as extra on top of normal fuel. surely putting in an additive or buying fuel with an additive already in it is just the same.

my 2cents worth.

Correct.

Any car manual will say do not use fuel additives. Shame all the fuels in the pumps contain a cocktail of additives. So basically they are saying don't fill up. :confused:

[Jim H]

I'm sure in High powered turbo cars (eg Evos etc.) it may states you should use higher grade octane petrol (98+ RON). In older cars (pre 92), some engines need to run with additives (Lead or Lead Substitutes) to stop valve wear. There are several additives that are approved by the FBHC (Federation of British Historic Vehicle Clubs).

[Markyar]

David...do you still offer the 5ltr. Diesel Sport 4?

If so could you let me know how to order one...
Cheers
Mark

[seremotors]

David...do you still offer the 5ltr. Diesel Sport 4?

If so could you let me know how to order one...
Cheers
Mark

I stock it but unfortunately no courier will ship 5 litres as it is classed as hazardous - as I found out when Royal Mail rapped my knuckles :(

[Markyar]

David...only one thing for it then - you'll have to open up a branch on the mainland!

Thanks anyway
Mark

[AndrewJB]

David what price are you doing this for now posted to England?

[seremotors]

David what price are you doing this for now posted to England?

Like everything else lately, it has gone up a bit :(
Now £10 for 500ml delivered. Still cheaper than Halfords but then thats not difficult :lol:

[Michael B]

Hi David,

Keep us a bottle of this. I will be in this coming week for a few wee things - I take it you keep oil filter etc in stock for the FR TDI Leon? Fancy giving it a quick oil change myself in between services..

Cheers,
Mick

[seremotors]

Hi David,

Keep us a bottle of this. I will be in this coming week for a few wee things - I take it you keep oil filter etc in stock for the FR TDI Leon? Fancy giving it a quick oil change myself in between services..

Cheers,
Mick

No problem at all :)

[AndrewJB]

HI David i was gonna order some but then i saw the Millers stand yesterday at Oulton Park BTCC and he did it for £10 aswell so ill use this for now and then order some more when i run out

cheers

[seremotors]

HI David i was gonna order some but then i saw the Millers stand yesterday at Oulton Park BTCC and he did it for £10 aswell so ill use this for now and then order some more when i run out

cheers

Hey no bother at all, glad you got a bargain :)

[gus]

Hi david can you save me 2 bottle of his unless you have this in at he moment??? cheers gus

[seremotors]

Hi david can you save me 2 bottle of his unless you have this in at he moment??? cheers gus

on the shelf :)

[gus]

thanks mate got the bottles this morning top service!!!!! wish all dealers were as helpfull and as reliable as you MUCH APPRECIATED ;-)

[seremotors]

you are welcome :)

[wjohnson]

Hi, are you still offering the Millers Additive for £10 delivered? Fancy trying some :D

[seremotors]

Hi, are you still offering the Millers Additive for £10 delivered? Fancy trying some :D

Yes we do - still popular :)
New bottles but same product. I have been using it for a few years and its the biz.
I do have to say it is not a SEAT product and not endorsed by them. - as we are SEAT dealers we have to be very careful

[wjohnson]

Can I purchase a bottle please? Want me to PM you buddy?

Cheers,

Will.

[seremotors]

whatever suits best - full order info in the link under my banner below

[Gordz]

Hey,

Just wanted to double check you've got stock of Millers & that it's at £10 delivered still?

Cheers,

Gordon.

[seremotors]

Hey,

Just wanted to double check you've got stock of Millers & that it's at £10 delivered still?

Cheers,

Gordon.

For once, something has actually come down in price :D
£9 a bottle (500ml) inc p+p

[Gordz]

For once, something has actually come down in price :D
£9 a bottle (500ml) inc p+p

:D even better. Sending you a PM now!

[trebormint]

How much are they if included with other items sent via parcelforce?

[seremotors]

How much are they if included with other items sent via parcelforce?

tbh its really a free p+p deal we are doing on it - if you are ordering other stuff, I'll tweak the overall price as best I can :)

[trebormint]

tbh its really a free p+p deal we are doing on it - if you are ordering other stuff, I'll tweak the overall price as best I can :)

fair enough :)

[andyj]

Will order a bottle next week when I call to order my Exeo honeycomb grille ;)

[wjohnson]

Its absolutely cracking stuff this. On my FR TDI with its wonderful DPF :lol: after 16k miles of driving on normal black stuff it really started to feel a bit bogged down. After running a couple of tanks with this stuff added it now feels much stronger and I dont get as much running rough as I used to as presumably its regenning less. It also feels more punchy low down in the rev range and doesnt seem to rely as much on the turbo to get the car shifting.

I know theres a lot of doubters in these type of products but if you run cheapo supermarket diesel and then suddenly switch to using this you can certainly feel the benefits. I'm guessing if you use always use nice Super Diesel at the extra cost all the time you will see little if no difference but not many of us can afford to run 119.9p all the time :D

[seremotors]

Its pretty much the ONLY non-VWG thing I sell, and I have run it myself in everything from a high mileage Alhambra through a brand new Leon FR TDI and now in a high mileage Merc C220 CDI.
Thats in addition to other family cars, V6 TDI Touareg, Clio DCI etc etc
All are usually run on Tesco or Asda fuel and the Millers gives the required quality improvement to make them run as if they had BP Ultimate or similar - difference is the cost.
50 litres of performance diesel can be an extra £3 a tank, a shot of Millers cost 90p. I occasionally double-dose mine and its still cheaper.

[Gordz]

Just wanted to say thanks for the really quick delivery :D

Ordered 18th - Delivered 20th

Brilliant service! Cheers :thumbup:

[Lippo]

I stock it but unfortunately no courier will ship 5 litres as it is classed as hazardous - as I found out when Royal Mail rapped my knuckles :(

Is this still the case?

Thanks,

Craig

[seremotors]

Is this still the case?

Thanks,

Craig

Im afraid so :(

[PTM30]

Hi David

I've got a Mk1 Leon TDI 150, i normally fill with premium diesel, would it help for me to use some Millers?

[seremotors]

Hi David

I've got a Mk1 Leon TDI 150, i normally fill with premium diesel, would it help for me to use some Millers?

I would personally say yes - anyone who has used it has seen an improvement after a tank or two.
Each to their own, but for £9 its not a lot of money :)

[Lippo]

Im afraid so :(

Thanks for the reply.

[PTM30]

I would personally say yes - anyone who has used it has seen an improvement after a tank or two.
Each to their own, but for £9 its not a lot of money :)

I'm probably being paranoid but it wont do any damage will it?

[seremotors]

If it is used in the recommended doses it will do absolutely no harm but I reckon you will notice a difference. For the 1st tank, use a double-dose as a system cleanser.

[PTM30]

If it is used in the recommended doses it will do absolutely no harm but I reckon you will notice a difference. For the 1st tank, use a double-dose as a system cleanser.

Ok how do i go about getting some from you David?

[seremotors]

full order info here -
http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=191165