Jabbasport Britcar GT Racecar Build Thread

[Ian Carvell]

Back in 2003 Carvell Motorsport teamed up with Jabbasport to take on the Volkswagen Racing Cup Championship, which resulted in an amazing 1 - 2.

Carvell Motorsport are pleased to anounce that in 2009 we will re-form the dream team to take on the best teams and drivers in the UK in the Britcar GT Championship with a Mk1 SEAT Leon Cupra.

As a little history, the Jabbasport/Carvell Motorsport partnership in 2003 resulted in an incredible Lupo GTi Turbo, which was an ex-German Lupo Cup car mated with a 1.8T engine. This was to be the most successful car of the 2003 season, not only because of the excellent chassis, but because of the fantastic power curve. Mike from Jabbasport achieved the class limit of 185bhp right from 2750rpm to 7500rpm, never waivering at all. It was so tractable that a lap of Curborough didn't require a single gear change!!!

Here are a few pictures:-
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/icarvell/AUT_0106.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/icarvell/AUT_0108.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/icarvell/AUT_0103.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/icarvell/AUT_0102.jpg


The 2009 Project

In 2009 we plan to enter Class 3 in Britcar GT's in an ex-SEAT Leon Cupra Championship car which was originally owned by Adrian Churchill, and later owned by Martin Johnson.
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/icarvell/1994trak861642.jpg

The car is being stripped and rebuilt as we speak due to the fact that it has recently finished the Silverstone 24hr race in the Production Class of Britcar. Here are a few pictures, which are taken on my mobile phone so are pretty poor quality, but give an idea of the spec of the car.
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/icarvell/028.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/icarvell/018.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/icarvell/021.jpg

Britcar GT's is the home to massively quick cars such as Moslers, Porsche GT3's, TVR Segaris, Aston Martin's etc etc Class 3 is where the Porsche 996 GTs's sit, and whilst they are going to be a massive target for us, we believe that with the fantastic spread of power that is legendary with Jabbasport big turbo conversions and further development of an already good chassis will see us in the mix with cars that really should be miles in front of a shopping car!

More build photos to follow as they develop.

[motorhead]

The best of luck, I’ll be along to see it run

[Ian Carvell]

Thanks for your support Motorhead, we will be running a competition for two free tickets about a month before each event....so keep looking back here for further details.

The provisional calender includes A1 GP, WTCC and the Silverstone 500....so should be fantastic events.

All are welcome to join us on race days for help and advice on engine or chassis tuning as we will have a large Jabbasport and Carvell Motorsport presence at each and every event....looking forward to the Spa 3 hour race already :)

[wild willy]

This is great guys, give us the spec of the car to drool over please.:drool:

[Chris Eyre]

The best of luck, I’ll be along to see it run
x 2

It'll be good to see a car from the VW stable taking the challenge to some of the hardcore Britcar GT machinery.

[ibizacupra]

what engine mods are you allowed to run in Britcar Ian?

[jabba_luke]

As far as im aware, its pritty much anything, but they use a power to weight scale also its a delicate balance to get the power to work with the chassis. More so as we will be the only front wheel drive car running (as far as im aware) time shall tell though.

[Backdraft]

If the weight of the car and driver is about 1150kgs, then you can run 230bhp at the wheels. As the car has wide arches and a slight body kit wouldnt it run in class 2?

Alex

[jabba_luke]

If the weight of the car and driver is about 1150kgs, then you can run 230bhp at the wheels. As the car has wide arches and a slight body kit wouldnt it run in class 2?

Alex

We will be running in Britcar GTs not Production S1 :)

[traumapat]

nice one! best of luck with it[B)]

[Backdraft]

Sorry, misread. It will be about 350bhp at the wheels. Your going to eat tyres. Seat limited the power to 250bhp at the fly as the cars just ate tyres. Good luck with it all. Its deffo going to be interesting :)

Alex

[jabba_luke]

Sorry, misread. It will be about 350bhp at the wheels. Your going to eat tyres. Seat limited the power to 250bhp at the fly as the cars just ate tyres. Good luck with it all. Its deffo going to be interesting :)

Alex

cheers :)

[Feel]

A Big Turbo Leon Supercopa? In White?

In the nicest possible way - I hate you :bleh:

[jabba_luke]

ooohhhhh yesh:funk:

[Ian Carvell]

Thanks for all the support everyone, I will include some driver profiles and dates for the events a little later on.

Backdraft, you are right about the tyres, I have already had a lengthy chat with the Dunlops reps about this, and I think we can improve things, but it will always be an issue with that much bhp, but it will need to be driven with this factor in mind.

[Ian Carvell]

Sorry for the delay in getting the dates out, I have been ill over Christmas...but here they are:-

28th March Silverstone International 2 hour race
2nd-4th May Donington 2 x 1.5 hour races
27th June Spa Francorchamps 3 hour race
18th-19th July Brands Hatch GP 1.5 hour race
8th-9th August Castle Combe 1.5 hour race
29th-30th August Snetterton 4 hour race
2nd-4th October Silverstone GP 6 hour race
7th August Brands Hatch Indy 1.5 hour race

Regular drivers will be myself, and older brother Rob Carvell. However, the 3,4 and 6 hour races will have scope for 3 drivers, maybe even 4. Hopefully we will be joined by Luke Schlewitz who works at Jabbasport for some, or all of these longer distance rounds. Provided there are no clashes with his Mk2 Golf GTI Championship title campaign after a very impressive maiden year in 2008 finishing 3rd in Class. There may also be a few races for my Father Dave Carvell towards the end of the year when myself and Rob run out of budget.

Both Jabbasport and Carvell Motorsport are friendly family run teams, and welcome all SCN users to come and say hello on raceday and we will be more than happy to show you around the car.

[jabba_luke]

Sorry for the delay in getting the dates out, I have been ill over Christmas...but here they are:-

28th March Silverstone International 2 hour race
2nd-4th May Donington 2 x 1.5 hour races
27th June Spa Francorchamps 3 hour race
18th-19th July Brands Hatch GP 1.5 hour race
8th-9th August Castle Combe 1.5 hour race
29th-30th August Snetterton 4 hour race
2nd-4th October Silverstone GP 6 hour race
7th August Brands Hatch Indy 1.5 hour race

Regular drivers will be myself, and older brother Rob Carvell. However, the 3,4 and 6 hour races will have scope for 3 drivers, maybe even 4. Hopefully we will be joined by Luke Schlewitz who works at Jabbasport for some, or all of these longer distance rounds. Provided there are no clashes with his Mk2 Golf GTI Championship title campaign after a very impressive maiden year in 2008 finishing 3rd in Class. There may also be a few races for my Father Dave Carvell towards the end of the year when myself and Rob run out of budget.

Both Jabbasport and Carvell Motorsport are friendly family run teams, and welcome all SCN users to come and say hello on raceday and we will be more than happy to show you around the car.


Thanks Ian, :)
I think i should be set to do all the ones you want me to do, looking at the dates :D

Looking forward to it, going to be a busy year though :blink:

[number2]

Excellent, i will be along to watch a few races this year, sounds like fun. Hope it goes well for the '09 season. You will be busy Luke if your racing the Golf too?

[jabba_luke]

Excellent, i will be along to watch a few races this year, sounds like fun. Hope it goes well for the '09 season. You will be busy Luke if your racing the Golf too?

Yes i will be busy, but its all good fun. :)

Its lucky that non of the races clash, as we will all be mucking in on the pitcrew side of things, Like Ian said it will be good having the team back together doing something proper like the old days in the VW cup :D

[Ian Carvell]

Slight change of plan.....James Tucker from Britcar is looking to make Britcar GT a "pure" GT series and Britcar Productions a "pure" saloon car series.

As a result we are not allowed to run in Britcar GT's despite "Modified Production Saloons" being listed as allowable cars in the 2009 regulations.

So the only option is to detune by @80bhp (50hp at the wheels) and do Britcar Productions which is a bit of a blow because grids were really poor in 2008, but hopefully the planned new comers will boost the grids.

So in Britcar Productions Class 1 we will run at 300bhp at the wheels, and be up against the bulk of the BMW M3's (V8's will still run in GT's), 3-5 Subaru Impeza's, Lotus Exige (saloon?) and possibly 996 GT3's from what the Press Officer was saying, but that doesn't really fit with the "pure" ethos so I doubt it TBH.

Sorry to the Backdraft boys, I saw your coats sitting behind us when we were talking to James Tucker and I was going to come and say hello, but after getting the bad news I forgot all about it.

[IbizaAlex]

I heard the bad news from the boys when they got back. What a pain. You will probably be up against us next year if we enter the TT so im sure we will meet and chat along the way.

Alex

[air121005]

was just reading this thread and about to wish you luck for the 2009 season, but then read the "slight change of plan" post :(

are you going to enter the lesser powered class :shrug:
is the race calender for this class the same as below?:confused:


28th March Silverstone International 2 hour race
2nd-4th May Donington 2 x 1.5 hour races
27th June Spa Francorchamps 3 hour race
18th-19th July Brands Hatch GP 1.5 hour race
8th-9th August Castle Combe 1.5 hour race
29th-30th August Snetterton 4 hour race
2nd-4th October Silverstone GP 6 hour race
7th August Brands Hatch Indy 1.5 hour race


hopefully attending more motorsport events this year, if i can make it, i'll say hello and take you up on the offer of a tour round your car:D

[Ian Carvell]

Hi air121005,

The calender is the same, but 2 or 3 of the races are shorter in length. Although, the Brands GP round from that list has been cancelled due to silly high entry fees from the event organisers(WTCC)....I think it was going to work out at something like £2750+VAT!!!!

Will be good to see you if you do make it along to any of the events.

IbizaAlex,

Top job, I will come and say hello at Silverstone, hows the Audi prep going, are you staying with Class 2 for 2009?

[IbizaAlex]

The TT has been ready for a few months now. As soon as the 24hr was over we gave it a new engine, perspex windows and a freshen up for this year. Tbh im not sure what class its in, but i guess the same as you guys.

[air121005]

high entry fee, £2750+VAT!!!!


:blink:......... :ban: that's a tad steep!!!!:(

[DaveV6]

interesting thread and good luck ,is there listings somewhere of cars and drivers for 2009 seaon in each class that you can browse?.

Dave

[jabbasport]

UPDATE:
JabbaSport & The Britcar Team Have Teamed Up With Owen Developments For Our Turbocharger Supply.

Jabbasport have delt with owen developments for some time now utlising their Garrett/IHI hybrid Subaru turbochargers on our higher horsepower applications, ranging from 400-600 horsepower.

We'll be adding to their "drivers reports" section on their website to keep their customers up-to-date with our achievements in Britcar.

We're very pleased to have Owen Developments on board with our project and hope to build a very good working relationship with them in events to come.

www.owendevelopments.co.uk

Kev

[Ian Carvell]

Here are a few more pictures of the rebuild....mobile phone again I am afraid, sorry.:redface:

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/icarvell/040.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/icarvell/045.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/icarvell/042.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/icarvell/039.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/icarvell/063.jpg

Big Bro should finish the engine by this weekend, so I might be able to show some engine install piccys next week.

[Feel]

Is there an engine code on it? Can you have a look at the rods and pins (particularly the pin sizes)?

[jabba_luke]

Is there an engine code on it? Can you have a look at the rods and pins (particularly the pin sizes)?

Engine is all together now, Its a BAM anyway

[The Hallams]

Good look to Ian, Rob and the Jabba team. Team DB's reformed! We all are looking forward to seeing this devlop. The Mad Hallam's plus 2 more now!

[INA]

Luke more images please!
stuff is looking Good!

[Ian Carvell]

Here you go INA, this is the latest upto this weekend.

We have had a few setbacks with the weather not allowing us to get the car over to Jabbasport for Turbo fitment, but the car is booked in at BTB Exhausts for a new exhaust next week due to new MSA Catalyst rules...then the car will be shipped over to Jabbasport for them to breath their magic into the business end of the car.

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/icarvell/001.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/icarvell/008.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/icarvell/009.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/icarvell/011.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/icarvell/013.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/icarvell/015.jpg

Will post up some piccys of BTB Exhausts wizardry next week :)

[Damoegan]

What turbo will you be using?

[Ian Carvell]

Not too sure to be honest, we had discussion after discussion after discussion about turbo choice and decided to go one route, but then at the last minute changed plan.

Jabbasport worked closely with Owens developments to utilise the best of both of their experiences of these turbos on VAG applications and came up with this solution. I have to confess that I know nothing about Turbos so I am glad to have these guys to call on....although I am learning after the last few weeks :)

Thanks to Kev, Mike, Luke and Brian at Jabba and Owens Developments for the time they spent on this.

[ArosaRacer]

Those wheels look wrong on the car, i'll swop my cupra r ones so it looks right, thats one track toy i'd love to own as well as the lupo good luck with the racing

[Ian Carvell]

Yes, I know what you mean...those wheels are the ex-seat cupra cup ones...

We have ordered some different ones that we are going to use for enduro racing.

[ArosaRacer]

Sits waiting for the for sale thread!! weres the lupo im building an arosa version of it and wanted a look at it

[bertrum]

Good look with 2009 guys! I'm studying for a Motorsport Tech degree so i'll be interested to see it all come together! Might get down to some of the races :)

[bobber26.2]

Update: Car is running with completely new management, wiring, turbo and installation by Kev and Luke at Jabbasport.
After only one attempt at starting - it ran sweetly. These guys seriously know what they are doing and all without a fuss.
Now the build-up to the first race is upon us- we have to get as much testing and set up in as possible so we wil try to keep this thread up to date.
Entries for the Series look strong. Our main aim to to prove what all of you know already - a well sorted Leon wil take on Europe's best sorted BMW's.... Hope we can rely on SeatCupra.net support to be the giant killing act of 2009!!!

[ibizacupra]

running the dual plenum inlet manifold....
what power goal is the engine, as that proved very restrictive on my ibiza.
I gained 32bhp when removed it for a better one.

[traumapat]

Update: Car is running with completely new management, wiring, turbo and installation by Kev and Luke at Jabbasport.
After only one attempt at starting - it ran sweetly. These guys seriously know what they are doing and all without a fuss.
Now the build-up to the first race is upon us- we have to get as much testing and set up in as possible so we wil try to keep this thread up to date.
Entries for the Series look strong. Our main aim to to prove what all of you know already - a well sorted Leon wil take on Europe's best sorted BMW's.... Hope we can rely on SeatCupra.net support to be the giant killing act of 2009!!!


:clap:
Sounds like its coming together well.:) Looking forward to hearing more.[B)]

Incidently those awful wheels you have... ArosaRacer would ruin his car with them. Give them to me as mines prefacelift so it doesn`t matter:D

Good to hear jabba doing their thing, their not bad with a spanner;)

[jabba_luke]

:clap:
Sounds like its coming together well.:) Looking forward to hearing more.[B)]

Incidently those awful wheels you have... ArosaRacer would ruin his car with them. Give them to me as mines prefacelift so it doesn`t matter:D

Good to hear jabba doing their thing, their not bad with a spanner;)


Thanks pat, Rob has got some new wheels but im pretty sure he will be keeping the old ones for the time being, we will need a few sets for the races so they will come in handy. :D

One thing that you can count on from Rob and Ian is that they will produce a car that will be right (and driven properly) from the start, non of us are into promising something for a season but still not seeing it on the track, or to see it running round at the back. :rolleyes:
Its a learning curve for all of us to go into something proper like britcar, but with the team we have i think it will work well :funk: after all bullshit doesnt win races :D

[Ian Carvell]

running the dual plenum inlet manifold....
what power goal is the engine, as that proved very restrictive on my ibiza.
I gained 32bhp when removed it for a better one.

Hi Bill,

I actually thought the same when I saw this manifold, but if you work out the area of the slot in this manifold it is quite a lot bigger than the area of the throttle body so provides no restriction at all with the standard throttle body..which we will be using for these power levels....so is a good choice, as always.

We have the official Britcar BHP test session next Thursday so we shall see then how close to the mark we are, but we are competing against RWD BMW's, Lotus Exige's, Mustangs and MK2 Leons with much better Aero and DSG boxes, so the motor has to be spot on...but I am sure it will be with the JabbaSport team behind us.

Both Carvell Motorsport and JabbaSport are family based friendly teams taking on the big boys so mid field will be a massive achiement for us in a "shopping car"....but we look forward to the challenge and welcome SCN members joining us on raceday to see how it all works...so don't be shy...come along and say hello....hell we are short of pit crew so if you think you have the relevant experience or enthusiasm, drop me a PM!

[ibizacupra]

Hi Bill,

I actually thought the same when I saw this manifold, but if you work out the area of the slot in this manifold it is quite a lot bigger than the area of the throttle body so provides no restriction at all with the standard throttle body..which we will be using for these power levels....so is a good choice, as always.

We have the official Britcar BHP test session next Thursday so we shall see then how close to the mark we are, but we are competing against RWD BMW's, Lotus Exige's, Mustangs and MK2 Leons with much better Aero and DSG boxes, so the motor has to be spot on...but I am sure it will be with the JabbaSport team behind us.

Both Carvell Motorsport and JabbaSport are family based friendly teams taking on the big boys so mid field will be a massive achiement for us in a "shopping car"....but we look forward to the challenge and welcome SCN members joining us on raceday to see how it all works...so don't be shy...come along and say hello....hell we are short of pit crew so if you think you have the relevant experience or enthusiasm, drop me a PM!


stock throttle 59mm you running I guess..
whats your power cap for the regs?

Larger 75mm throttle and replacing the dual plenum with a single larger taper plenum manifold gained me a bolt on 32bhp which was impressive. not so relevant if you are power capped and this pushes you over the edge, but if nothing else, same power for less boost perhaps is still worth consideration.
just a thought

[Ian Carvell]

I am no expert on Turbo engine tuning Bill, but I have been making up a few turbo pipes this week and I think the one onto the Turbo was 60mm? So anything bigger than the standard 59mm throttle body is pretty wasted I would have thought...just gives poor drivability. From @80%-100% opening there would be no difference in airflow.

So on the same basis you still couldn't run less boost for the same power with a larger manifold and throttle body.....because you are still restricted by the pipe into the Turbo.

This project is 100% focused towards drivability.....no point having big numbers of you can't apply them to the road an a useful way. We will be competing against Evo's and Skoobies with exactly the same power to weight ratios, so traction and corner exit speed is very very important to us, and I think JabbaSports approach on this is second to none.

[RobT]

Hi Bill,

"shopping car"....

:lol:

For shopping car read, factory-built race car with bespoke chassis

But yes it will be an achievement if you take the fight to the more established rwd cars

[m0rk]

Would you be able to run the boost controller to 'adjust' the boost? Naughty I know... but I bet people do it all the time with power capped 1.8T's

[jabbasport]

Britcar have a compulsory datalogger that you have to have in the car which measures acceleration etc.

We have a powerlogger test day Thursday where they calculate Rolling resistance of the cars etc.

[ibizacupra]

I am no expert on Turbo engine tuning Bill, but I have been making up a few turbo pipes this week and I think the one onto the Turbo was 60mm? So anything bigger than the standard 59mm throttle body is pretty wasted I would have thought...just gives poor drivability. From @80%-100% opening there would be no difference in airflow.

So on the same basis you still couldn't run less boost for the same power with a larger manifold and throttle body.....because you are still restricted by the pipe into the Turbo.

This project is 100% focused towards drivability.....no point having big numbers of you can't apply them to the road an a useful way. We will be competing against Evo's and Skoobies with exactly the same power to weight ratios, so traction and corner exit speed is very very important to us, and I think JabbaSports approach on this is second to none.

dual plenum is restrictive.. you have'nt answered the power question

whatever Ian :rolleyes:

No drivability issues on mine when goign from 75mm t'body from 59mm, just gains... less boost required for the same airlfow was a good thing

[Ian Carvell]

RobT , you would be suprised, the rear end is bog standard Cupra4 Leon but with rose jointed inner bushes to add a bit of adjustability....but the outers are still the standard rubber bushes (not even poly!), the trailing arm bushes are the standard rubber bushes (not even poly!).....all very standard...even the rear flexis are rubber not braided....

The front end is nice though!

Bill...BHP target is 300BHP at the wheels....

[RobT]

RobT , you would be suprised, the rear end is bog standard Cupra4 Leon but with rose jointed inner bushes to add a bit of adjustability....but the outers are still the standard rubber bushes (not even poly!), the trailing arm bushes are the standard rubber bushes (not even poly!).....all very standard...even the rear flexis are rubber not braided....

The front end is nice though!

Bill...BHP target is 300BHP at the wheels....

yawn....here we go again, yeh ok Ian, its a totally standard car, whatever

[Ian Carvell]

Rob, its not standard, but it does have much more standard components than the cars we are racing against....so comparitively it is a shopping car, but I was actually refering to the catagory of the vehicle that the car is based on when I first used the shopping car term. The SEAT Leon is a family hatchback, whereas the Lotus Exige is an out and out Sportscar, as is the Aspid, as is the Mutaya....designed purely as trackday/weekend toys.....not the run to the supermarket.

It is a valid point though that the Mk1 Seat Leon Cup cars have a lot more standard parts on than you think the rear end is completely standard Cupra4 kit with the exception of an ARB, 4 rosejoints, springs and dampers IIRC....as as said has standard rubber outer wishbone bushes and trailing arm bushes, even the flexis are standard in the brakes.....engine mountings are standard.....engine is standard BAM. Most of this stuff will be changed by us though.

As said though...the front suspension and shell prep is very nice.

[ibizacupra]

Bill...BHP target is 300BHP at the wheels....
dual plenum is adequate for that power level then yes.

thanks for confirming.

[ibizacupra]

is this like maurice reeve's mk1 being referred to as shopping car... :lol:

LCR Supercopa's were lovely spec/prep cars.
would love one... but too modded for combe regs for me

[Ian Carvell]

Yes, I guess Maurices base car is a family hatchbach so could be regarded as a shopping car....although not the most practical in its current state of tune. It is taxed and tested though I believe, so he could pop down the shops in it.

As I said though I was referring to the classification of the base vehicle....not its modified state.

A Leon is used by hundereds of thousands of people world wide to do the weekly shop in, you couldn't get the weekly shop into a standard Aspid, Mataya or an Exige....although you might get one or two bags into an Exige boot. The engine probably would have soured the milk by the time you get home though.....thats is if you haven't already given up because you have got dirt all over your trousers/shirt/dress trying to extract yourself from the door :)

At the risk of running a little off topic, which bits are illegal for Castle Combe Saloons Bill, could you convert it to 4wd and race it as a Cupra4? I guess the front uprights may be illegal, but standard uprights with balljoint spacers could be used instead perhaps.

[RobT]

Rob, its not standard, but it does have much more standard components than the cars we are racing against....so comparitively it is a shopping car, but I was actually refering to the catagory of the vehicle that the car is based on when I first used the shopping car term. The SEAT Leon is a family hatchback, whereas the Lotus Exige is an out and out Sportscar, as is the Aspid, as is the Mutaya....designed purely as trackday/weekend toys.....not the run to the supermarket.

It is a valid point though that the Mk1 Seat Leon Cup cars have a lot more standard parts on than you think the rear end is completely standard Cupra4 kit with the exception of an ARB, 4 rosejoints, springs and dampers IIRC....as as said has standard rubber outer wishbone bushes and trailing arm bushes, even the flexis are standard in the brakes.....engine mountings are standard.....engine is standard BAM. Most of this stuff will be changed by us though.

As said though...the front suspension and shell prep is very nice.

:blahblah: PR

[Ian Carvell]

How rude....

[Poverty]

I dont get what you guys are arguing about.

But carry on, handbags ready, on 3 :lol:

[RobT]

How rude....

You think so? well I consider it rude that you underplay your cars potential performance and treat people like idiots. The supercopa leon is a very quick car and if you can manage your tires, it will be very competitive.

Reminder of performance when it was standard spec on slicks:
Brands Indy 2006 - 51.9
Snet 2006 - 1:16.8

BTCC
Brands Indy 2006 - 49.19
Snet 2006 - 1:13.25 (race 2) / 1.12.67 (race 3)

[Ian Carvell]

Yes Rob.....you are very rude.

I have referred to the car as a shopping car based on the fact that millions use the car for shopping world wide as opposed to a Lotus Exige/ Aspid / Murtaya trackday specials which are never used for shopping.....and you say i am treating people like idiots by saying this which is rude....I think quite a few people will see the massive difference is base car between a SEAT Leon and a Lotus Exige / Aspid / Murtaya.

The Leon is no where near as good a base vehicle.

I can quote Lotus lap times that are well over 10-15% quicker than the Leon Cupra Cup times that you quote....not to mention the Mutaya 4WD, 900kg Subaru Imprezza based kit car!!

I know the Leon is a very quick car, that is why we choose it....but in comparison to a 4WD 900kg GT car....No!

[ibizacupra]

At the risk of running a little off topic, which bits are illegal for Castle Combe Saloons Bill, could you convert it to 4wd and race it as a Cupra4? I guess the front uprights may be illegal, but standard uprights with balljoint spacers could be used instead perhaps.

uprights and anything rose-jointed is disallowed unless it came like it out of the factory.
by the time all the good bits were removed to meet combes regs it would'nt be the nice package it started out as... sadly. running it in 4wd would put it amongst the EVO's which are probably out of its league in 4wd terms. Big ££ to compete with the current Class A evo's which have >£70k invested in their cars.
I think a new Leon might make an appearance into combe saloons, but the cup cars are too modded for the regs, so would only have GT's to race in. There was a team who bought a crash damaged LCR supercopa but abandoned the build as it was too modified to begin with. :(

[RobT]

Have you read the regs Ian?

http://www.britcar24hr.co.uk/cms/e107_plugins/wrap/regsdocs/Britcar_Production_2009_Regulations_-_Issue_5_MSA.pdf

[ibizacupra]

what class is the leon in?

[jabbasport]

Ps1 :)

[ibizacupra]

"horsepower will be measured using a Race Technology Ltd DL1 data logger"
Is this one of the accelerometer type devices? (compensations for yaw etc req'd etc...) and there's a GPS sensor also for actual speeds etc

interesting way of keeping tabs on things

[m0rk]

Have you read the regs Ian?

http://www.britcar24hr.co.uk/cms/e107_plugins/wrap/regsdocs/Britcar_Production_2009_Regulations_-_Issue_5_MSA.pdf

26.1 would suggest the car is not eligible (assuming Cupra4 as base car)

But then 20.1 would not be true assuming no permission has been sought

[Ian Carvell]

M0rk, yes, these issues have been agreed with Britcar, there are actually 3 ex-Cupra Championship cars already racing in the Championship, and have been for 2 years.....the Cunningham brothers, Paul Horton, aswell as Martin Johnson in the car we have just bought.

Looking forward to the start of the Championship now, we have the offical Power test session on Thursday so it will be the first time it has turned a wheel away from the rolling road.

I made a bit of an error with the weight calculation so we may be 30bhp short at the first race, but hopefully we can rectify that for race two at Donington.

[Ian Carvell]

Well the power testing went very well today at Kemble, it was awsome to see some of the kit that was there blasting up and down the runway....there were cars like Mosler, Mustang, Ferrari, Venturi, Lotus Exige, Porsche 997 GT3, Porsche 996 GT3, Mitsubishi Evo etc etc :)

I left Rob (big brother) to do all the power testing because he is the lightest one so would show the best performance seen on track to compare to, but I drove the car on the warm up strip and the engine is fantastic.....it is spot on the brief that we gave to Jabbasport on what we wanted from the car. It has got massive grunt when needed, but it only gives you as much as you ask for, so you really can use acurate throttle control. It is in stark contrast to most other turbo cars I have driven which are a constant battle between building boost and loosing it.

Thanks to Kev from JabbaSport for all the time you spent on the rollers, and for the extra time to rectify the error I made in the weight calculations.....much appreciated.

[bobber26.2]

Yes well put Ian - it's an awesome motor. The best way I can describe it is that it feels like the car weighs only 400kg!!!
I can see why Jabba has such a strong customer base for these engines because the whole conversion took place without a fuss and the results are staggering.
Well it's up to us now to get the car finished to a level suitable for endurance racing. This involves engineering as many failure modes out of the car as possible.
First track test is likely to be Wednesday next week at Mallory park.
First race is Saturday March 28th at Silverstone with testing Friday 27th.
Hope Ian's shopping car comment didn't cause too much trouble - he means that the basis of this beast is quite a bit more humble than some of the megabucks machinery out there. It's a tall order but I think we can take these beemers on and do the Seat name proud.

[csmith.msport]

hi guys, i was at kemble the other day. im looking after the mustang in production. hopefully should be a good year! i used to look after a leon cup car couple of years ago when it was first outed to privateers, crackin car to start with so all the best, see you on track ;)

[Ian Carvell]

Hi there, I think I may have spoken to you on the day? or maybe one of your guys..

The Mustang looks a lovely car, I don't think we will be on the pace of a race winning GT4 Mustang, but maybe over a race distance we may not be too far away if we can get front tyres to last.....our whole project hinges on that point.

The first shake down test (with corners) is Wednesday at Mallory so we should get an idea of fuel consumption and tyre wear then.

You are right though....fantastic car, we had heard good reports about them and weren't disappointed.

It was like walking into a VW Cup paddock from 6 years ago when I bumped into Stuart and Steve, good to see those guys again. Is Mike Jordan still down for driving the 'stang?

[csmith.msport]

he is indeed, hes doing all the rounds with stuart and steve is in for the longer races. Spa should be mega love it there! shes a new car to us too so even now were just getting to grips with it after a few tests.

Theyd told me about their golf i think it was that they entered in british gt's a few years ago! cant imagine it haha. i take it your allowed to run the uprights and so on that the car comes with? ill try find an old set up sheet or two from when we ran them :D

[Ian Carvell]

That should be a very strong package then...look forward to sharing a beer or two (post race of cause :))

If you could find the set-up sheets that would be a good help, its going to be a steep learning curve for me, none of the championships I have raced in have been on slicks, it has twice the bhp of any championship I have raced in. And of the first 5 races, I have only raced on 1 of the circuits before!

Yes, they are allowed to race in SEAT Cupra Championship spec.

Have you had to detune the BHP on the Mustang because I notice the other GT4 cars like the Astons are in Britcar GT's...or have they had to tune up?

[csmith.msport]

no its standard gt4 spec, she weighs a fair bit more than the astons! im not sure if the astons are gt4 or not tbh!

yep couple of beers is on the cards! who else are you driving with?

[Ian Carvell]

I am driving with My brother Rob Carvell, who Steve and Stuart will know from VW Cup, and Luke Schlewitz from JabbaSport in the longer distance races....and if we can get the budget together for the 6 hr race maybe my dad Dave Carvell aswell, so a proper family and friends team.

I think we will probably be having a beer or two post Silverstone race. After the masive amount of work that has gone into building the car I think everyone is going to be ready for a pint. It is a Saturday race so you are more than welcome to join us...either in the paddock with a few tins, or a taxi ride to Northampton :)

We are dead serious, and 100% professional on track, but post race we have a lot of fun :)

Work hard, but play hard....that is our ethos!

[csmith.msport]

Work hard but play harder is mine!

probably have to be a paddock job for me mate, gotta pack up and go back to the workshop soon after its finished, running a porsche in gt class aswell so busy busy for us! Milton keynes is a good night, i think weve found out all the decent places for every circuit, Spa's always a gooden so we'll have to sort that out with everyone

[INA]

Luke this thing have ac? :-P

[jabba_luke]

Luke this thing have ac? :-P

Yea its called a pipe coming from a scoop in the bonnet :happy:
No heater matrix though, but when its being driven properly we shouldnt need to put any more heat into the car :lol:

[Ian Carvell]

First testing went very well today, the car is very nice to drive and not too difficult to get into a consistant groove with.....power delivery is brilliant, and stunningly quick!!!

Qualifying tomorrow morning then, 90 minute race at @3pm.

Looking forward to it now, the car is no where near ready so I think the chances of a finish are fairly slim due to lack of preparation time on the chassis....but if we can show the potential of the car this weekend and iron out the teething troubles we should be in with a should later in the season.

[flappy]

Good luck today! I look forward to coming to some of the races this year (although its with the Beachdeen Aston team) I will keep and eye out for you guys :-)

[INA]

Good luck today
:funk:
Luke let me know how it goes!

[jabbasport]

Hi Guys,
Just to let everyone know, we finished 2nd overall and 1st in class!

The car that finished 1st overall was later found to be over their power to weight limit so next race will have ballast added to the car as penalty.

Top result!

Im sure Rob or Ian will be on later to give a report of the race :)

Kev

[air121005]

excellent result :clap:

how did the car perform, i'm guessing no problems? :shrug:

[Ian Carvell]

Blimey....where do I start with a race report for this!! It was just a dream come true!

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/icarvell/n564433707_2324796_2088395.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/icarvell/n564433707_2324789_6519288.jpg

This is by far the biggest project we have ever taken on, and the gravity of that hit home for me when we parked up the Talbot van in the middle of a long row of F1 style perfectly presented trucks....out of our depth was the immediate thoughts in my head!

Testing was encoraging we managed to post times that were close, if not a shade quicker than the Eclipse Mitzy Evo, Mustang GT4, M3 and Exige that we knew were going to be the front runners.

Unfortunately come raceday it was wet and this is worst case scenario for the high power front wheel drive cars because traction only allows a fraction of that power to be applied to the road, so competing with the RWD beemers and 4wd Mitzy was out of the question but we qualified 5th which we were very very please with especially due to the fact that I was on the wrong tyres when the track was at its driest, but to be honest it wouldn't have made a bid difference to grid spot if I had been on the right tyres....may just have sneaked 4th.

We were hampered in the race because we hadn't had time to fit quick fillers to the fuel system so we had to start the race with enough fuel to do the 90 minute race so the car was like the Exxon Valdez :D But after narrowly missing a massive start line shunt Rob haded over to me a 50 minutes (waiting as long as possible for a safety car period) in 3rd place after driving the majority of the stint in the wet on slicks. I pushed hard straight from the get go, because we had managed to haul in 2nd place in the pit stops and we were now both on similar fuel loads....I took 2nd place after 2 laps of my stint, but then came the rain again making conditions pretty tricky again, but after briefly loosing 2nd after getting wrong footed by a back marker, then taking it back again I managed to pull a bit of a gap as the circuit dried out.

This is pretty much as we finished, apart from a brief scare towards the end where a Lotus that had changed over to wets was catching us by 8 seconds a lap....but we just held him off for long enough!.

Terrific weekend, thanks to Kev from JabbaSport for his time on the rollers. I have no doubt at all in my mind, that it was the work that he did that made the car so controllable on slicks in the wet....the data logger shows were only on full throttle for @20% of the lap such was the lack of grip available!

The superb thing was watching how the manifold pressure trace on the logger followed throttle position, it was almost spot on. Its not difficult to get big bhp figures from these 1.8T engines, but what is difficult is to get that level of drivability, and that is why I would never enter into a racing programme with anyone but JabbaSport....thanks Brian, Carole, Luke and Kev! :clap:

CSMITH.MSPORT, how is Stuart Scott....that was the only dampener on the event for me, so sad to see a lovely turned out car in a mess, but as they say cars can be fixed. Hope he is ok, that looked a big hit!


****EDIT...keep an eye out on Motors TV and Sky sports for the race coverage****

[jabbasport]

http://photos-d.ak.fbcdn.net/photos-ak-sf2p/v651/159/21/564433707/n564433707_2328027_2470029.jpg

[m0rk]

Looks alright in white

[traumapat]

congrats guys! nice to see a mk 1 doing so well

[Ian Carvell]

Seats were 1st and 3rd in our class actually because the Cunningham Family came 3rd / 4th overall in their Mk2 Seat Leon SuperCopa car after upgrading from the Mk1 that they have campaigned for the last two years....it is a stunning looking car aswell.

So its well worth watching Motors TV/Sky sports when it is on, because myself and one of the Cunninghams had a good battle for 2nd place for a while so should get very good TV coverage :-)

Shame the Lotus on wets caught them at the last corner...otherwise it would have been a Seat 1-2 in our class and 2nd & 3rd overall!!!

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/icarvell/silverstoneaction.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/icarvell/cunninghamleon.jpg
http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/icarvell/britcarlorries.jpg

[M3 Y RT]

Well done guys, great result. Any chance of a full spec of the engine work, especially what management you're running on. Also are you running wider slicks on the front, those team dynamics (i think) look alot wider/have lower offset than the standard super T's.
Russ

[ibizacupra]

great result guys

:clap:

[jabbasport]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvb4x8GQWZk

[traumapat]

drift king lol!:D

[jabbasport]

http://www.britcar24hr.co.uk/cms/e107_plugins/coppermine_menu/albums/userpics/09_5432.jpg
http://www.britcar24hr.co.uk/cms/e107_plugins/coppermine_menu/albums/userpics/DSC_9739W.jpg

[csmith.msport]

congrats guys good job! he's fine mate cheers, the cars not... needs jiggin, biggest problem is going to be gettin the parts :s ah well. our porsche didnt finish the gt race either! are gona get the quick fill sorted for next round?

[bertrum]

Well done again guys! Was a really great day, look forward to round two at Donny!

Some pictures I took;

http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll265/bertrumscn/DSC00257.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll265/bertrumscn/DSC00267.jpg
http://i290.photobucket.com/albums/ll265/bertrumscn/DSC00260.jpg

[Ian Carvell]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvb4x8GQWZk

Ha ha....I told you it was good fun :)

Thanks for all the kind messages both on this thread and via PM, it is much appreciated.

That video shows just how nicely you can control the power application by the way it comes out of the slide. Most turbo cars the boost would have come in with a big hit and fired it out of the slide and probably into the gravel trap....this one can be nicely balanced on the throttle....what a tool!

Thanks also to Bertrum for your help on the day, we will be glad to have you along for the rest of the meetings if you can make it. That goes for all SCN members, you are more than welcome to come along and even get involved if you would like to...we are a small family team and are always short on numbers....especially next time when we finally get the refueling gear fitted to the car!!!

[Ian Carvell]

The 'stang sounds like its quite poorly, but as said, at least Stuart is ok, it was very similar to the incident at the 24hrs where there were serious injuries!!!

Looking at the photos I cannot understand how Rob managed to get through without damage because he was inches from Stuarts back bumper!

We will be fitting the quick fillers for Donington so hopefully that should improve the pace in the first stint.

[Ian Carvell]

Here is the team, all of them top top people!

http://i180.photobucket.com/albums/x156/icarvell/Thomas430.jpg

From left to right:-
Bertrum(Rob), Ian Carvell (Holding Thomas Carvell), Rob Carvell, Luke Schlewitz, Dave "the polished and ported" Crissel , Kev Glover....(extreme right, from the Mosler garage next door) Ian "Fluxie" Flux racing legend, I was a proud man when he shook my hand at the end of the race and congratulated us on the result...he has always been a legend of mine!

At the bottom..Brian "The Gaffer" Schelwitz!

The dream team!

[bertrum]

Just found this of the start of the race

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gt0ZSSxgllI

Rob, you did really well to avoid that!

[amccan10]

Car looks cracking guys! Good result!

[RobT]

very well done - thats an excellent start to a race program in the 'next division' - hope it continues as its great to have folks flying the VAG flag in the higher divisions

[jabbasport]

Thanks for the kind words Rob.

Hopefully they wont cancel the donnington race because of the misplaced wall during their F1 revamp. :(

[markoos]

Well done one and all,been following this thread with interest but not commented until now.Would be nice to see you guys come north of the border if you could.

[jabba_luke]

Thanks Rob and thanks to everyone else too, im sure i speak for all of the team when i say the kind words make this whole project worthwile. :)

Luke

[flappy]

Well done guys. Looking at the start of the race brings back some bad memories of the 24h, excellent driving missing that :thumbup:

[Ian Carvell]

Thanks Rob and thanks to everyone else too, im sure i speak for all of the team when i say the kind words make this whole project worthwile. :)

Luke


Ditto that Luke, thanks to everyone on here for their support, it was nice to say hi to all of the SCN members that came to Silverstone....hope to see a few more at the next race.

On that subject, Donington has been cancelled due to the track works, but it has been replaced with Rockingham, on the same date. Shame because I love Donington, but I guess yellow flags from McLeans to Coppice is an unacceptable situation with the speed differential and the amount of lapped cars associated with endurance racing.

[bobber26.2]

Rockingham Timetable;

Saturday 2nd May;
Britcar Production Championship Qualifying 11:00 to 11:30
Britcar Production Championship Race 1 - 16:00 to 17:30

Sunday, 3rd May;
Britcar Production Championship Race 2 - 14:55 to 16:25

Issue - Draft


Need to raise our game at Rockingham - more cars are likely to finish and more will have got their acts together after a half-hearted start to the year.
I'm confident that the car has good outright speed, due to excellent testing pace at dry Silverstone. We now need to prove that this pace can be sustained for two 90 minute dry races.
Rockingham is not a circuit that we know very well. Ian and I raced there only once in 2003, but we trounced the VW Cup by finishing first and second there so fond memories.
Car showed no signs of distress from Silverstone, but wet racing conditions are very easy on the car mechanically.
Some improvements have been made the the rear suspension, brakes, and hopefully some aero tweaks will be added if time permits.
Will not be testing on the Friday, so going straight into qualifying will focus the attention quite well...
Looks like we will have a pit garage so anyone is welcome to look around. :)

[bobber26.2]

Rockingham Results;

Summary;
Qualified 5th
Race 1 - Did not finish
Race 2 - Had to withdraw

We managed to pack a season's worth of bad luck and cockups into one single race so not great results to report.....!

Qualifying 5th was OK (behind two £100k E46 M3's, one Lotus Elise and the Mk2 Leon). Bit rusty around Rockingham but the Leon was working brilliantly and both Ian and I can enough confidence in the car to push like crazy - a really rewarding experience.

Race 1 began with a problem after only a handful of laps, the engine went down to 3 cylinders. After an unscheduled pitstop and quick replacement of coil packs by Luke from Jabba we were at the back of the pack. Cockup #1 was my tardy exit from the pits, missing the safety car and effectively losing a lap....
This was time to try and battle back into contention. Any driver enjoys this situation because there's nothing to lose... Well actually there was, because I overtook two cars on a safety car restart after seeing a waved green flag (Cockup #2 - misinterpreted the rules!) Another unscheduled stop then for a stop/go penalty....
Still I tried to recover the situation by doing the hardest, most focussed 40 minute thrash that I have ever sustained. It worked partly, because we were back into the top ten before the driver change. I was totally drained, and the car was VERY tired. Brakes were shot (365mm discs!!) Tyres were well past their best but engine / gearbox / drivetrain was incredibly still intact...
Importantly, I had two minor incidents of contact while making up the places, one with an M3 driver who failed to see me hunting him down at 2 seconds per lap, and another with a lead M3 who had underestimated the straight line speed of the Leon and turned in on me..
Despite the poor state of the car, Ian took over and posted an incredible set of times to keep whatever hopes we had alive, until braking from the fastest part of the track 145mph down to a 45mph hairpin, a steering arm broke and almost pitched Ian into the wall... Not good. One race retirement.
The steering arm had been cracked in the aforementioned assault by the M3's and finally failed after further use... Scary stuff.
On further inspection after the race, it was found that the special front upright was also cracked which ruled us out of starting race two. A real shame but that's racing. Lots learned.

Some facts from the datalogging;
Top speed recorded 145mph
Speed around banking of turn 1 - 130mph
45-93mph acceleration in third - 4 seconds
145mph to 45mph braking - 4 seconds

Thanks to Team Jabba (Kev, Luke, Brian, Carole) for Team Management, Race support and ongoing development.

[m0rk]

Sounds scarey. is the upright repairable? or a chuckaway item?

[Ian Carvell]

Hi M0rk, the upright is repairable, but not at the circuit so isn't a major issue.

I really enjoyed the weekend despite not getting a result.

I love new challenges and driving that thing at Rockingham as absolutely awesome, very hard work, very fast, but very very rewarding.

I would like to thank the JabbaSport team for thier work in the coil replacement....we almost kept on the lead lap, although I am not sure I agree with Rob on his dis-apointment at not getting to the pitlane exit before the pace car....I think the guy with the speed gun would have had a few issues if he had :)

I still cant get over how awesome the car is....but even more encouraging is the fact that it could be so so much better given the budget, we have zero aero dynamic aids at the moment apart from a more cosmetic than functional rear wing.

Most cars have massive front splitters, full length flat floors, huge rear diffusers and usable rear wings....the data logger was showing big lifts for us on the banking at high speed whereas the more developed cars were reported to be not lifting at all.

Another major improvement would be a sequential, close ratio gearbox. most other cars are running sequential gearboxes, but we still have a standard 'H' pattern gearbox with standard ratios.

Really looking forward to the next outing whenever that may be. :)

[RobT]

Bad luck, sounds like you guys are getting to grips with it though which is all good. I am surprised with the upright - those leons used to take one hell of a beating in the one make series (read stock cars) and seemed to be pretty robust.

Check out my thread on CGTI in the transmission section on gearboxes from SQS - they do a 6 speed dog set for the 02m and also a very trick shifter that converts H-pattern to sequential - I am fitting one to my ibiza presently.

[Ian Carvell]

Hi Rob,

Yes the steering arm was a little dis-appointing, but it is only tack welded in 4 places. It looks like it is designed that way so it breaks to avoid bending the aluminium upright, but unfortunately in this case it broke when I was hard on the brakes so when the track rod end necked out it cracked the upright.

I did see those external sequential kits, but I think that you need to get the dog kit to take full advantage of it, and at the moment it is as much as we can do financially to get to the grid, so a dog gearkit is well out of the picture, but maybe an option next year.

I think we will miss Spa due to funds, but we will be returning at Combe, but maybe without me as a second driver :(

[RobT]

you are looking at about 4.5K for gearkit, shifter, ECU, odds and sods, maybe a bit more depending on the diff chosen (anything from £500-£1500) - which is a lot, but still half the price of a pukka sequential box even without all the engineering needed to make it fit the Leon (I was quoted 11K I seem to recall for a Sadev for my car.....minus box mounts/clutch engineering etc etc)

and you may struggle to get a transverse sequential box for the leon that will take the torque that your motor will make - most are made for high revving atmo motors

[Ian Carvell]

I think I could do Spa and the rest of the races this year on £4.5k so my priority is with that at the moment....but you are right, that is a mega improvement, and one that we need despatately to keep on terms with these £100k M3's....but we are happy with 3rd place beind those guys now unless they break!

[jabbasport]

Hi Guys.

Just to let everyone know who's in the area of Castle Combe circuit. We'll be supporting the Carvell Seat Leon Supercopa in the Britcar Production championship that's running on the 8th and 9th of August.

Times are as follows:

Saturday:
Untimed practice 9am (30 mins)
Qualifying 13:30 (30 mins)

Sunday;
Public Grid walk 12:00
Race (combined) 12:45 (90mins)

Be sure to pop over to us in the paddock and say hi if you can

Kev

[truCido]

I've been marshaling all weekend and I saw the Leon going round, looked good!! you have a good weekend?

[CORDY_SXMAN]

i got a couple of pics of your leon in action....http://vagowners.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=11675

[INA]

Brian,
what gearing do you have in this box mate?

[Ian Carvell]

The ratios are standard....I have just finished rebuilding the engine and we are out at Brands Hatch this weekend for the fastest VAG racer in the UK race at Brands Hatch....its the first 20v engine I have built so I hope it performs well....thanks to Kev and Mike from Jabba who cane to Brunters today to tweek the map....much appreciated!!!

[Ian Carvell]

We are out again this weekend (saturday) at Brands Hatch for the final Britcar race so if you are around please come and say hello, Jabbasport Luke and Jabbasport Kev are also there with thier Class 2 Seat Leon Cupra....should be a good weekend!

[jabbasport]

Looking at the entry list Vicki Butler Henderson is entered in Class 2 invitation aswell in a Honda NSX.

Kev

[RobT]

what happened at the fastest vag race at brands?

[jabbasport]

From the Britcar Production Brands Hatch Indy

Splitting the Hondas, 10th overall, was the Carvell brothers Seat; starting driver Rob was in the top three mid-race, but Ian’s closing stint was marred by a two-lap penalty for a short pit stop, dropping them probably three places down the order, whilst Jabba stablemates Luke Schlewitz and Kevin Glover, in the ex-Cunningham Seat Cupra, had a solid run to 12th.

Some videos:
Luke 1st stint in the race:
YouTube - Luke Schlewitz - Britcar Production - Brands Hatch Indy (Into The Night) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QcMzcH3lkyk&feature=channel)

My 2nd Stint in the race:
YouTube - Kevin Glover - Britcar Production - Brands Hatch Indy (Into The Night) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc1f2mdQS4g&feature=channel)

Kev

[Ian Carvell]

Only just seen this, but yes, upto 3rd until the pitstop dropped us to 7th, I got back to 5th, but our pitstop was deemed to be 4 seconds under the mandatory 90 seconds so we were penalised 2 laps.

Such a shame because we are usually so acurate with the pitstop time, but we only had my dad and uncle on the pit wall...neither of which had been on the crew all year so didn't know the workings....and he incar timer didn't survive the vibration....poo!

Any road....car for sale on racecarsdirect for £18k....1:12's at combe for £18k....yes indeed!!!! I would say that is in the top 5 V.A.G times around Combe, and it is restricted to 320bhp at the wheels!!! Loads more potential to come....would do 450bhp with a simple remap!!!

[bertrum]

What's next after the Leon then guys?

[Ian Carvell]

Nice to see you at the Motorsport show Rob.

"Whats next?" Well we will see, Rob is getting married and I am setting up my own tuning company since getting made redundant as a Aero Engine Design Engineer at Rolls-Royce (out sourcing to India!!).

So things will be quiet as regards racing in 2010, but I have my eye on the 24hr race.....may be fiesable but may not, it depends on how the new business goes. Fancy doing sone pit crew if it works out?

[bertrum]

Good to see you too. Sucks about the redundancy but glad your keeping busy with the new business.

Always happy to help out, might need your expertise in my own pit crew at times :)

I have emailed VAGTrophy about changes to the 2009 regs for this year, but had no response as of yet, any ideas?

[jabbasport]

Ian writes the regulations for the VAGTrophy Rob, so might have a few ideas.. lol

Kev

Probably better off posting that kind of question at www.golfgti-racing.co.uk/phpBB3

[INA]

This isnt 4WD is it?

[jabbasport]

No..
Just incredibly wide front wheels :)

New for 2010...
Jabba planning to enter Time Attack with their own Seat Leon Supercopa with around 500 ponies...

Kev

[Ian Carvell]

It isn't 4wd, but has full 4wd rear suspension so would be an easy conversion!

[TubbyTwo]

any vids of it in action?

[jabbasport]

Carvell's Seat Leon - Big Turbo Jobbie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvb4x8GQWZk

http://share.ovi.com/media/djkrazykev.public/Djkrazykev.10003

JabbaSport's Seat Leon - Currently Standard Spec

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fc1f2mdQS4g

Kev

[TubbyTwo]

Savage!

i think i need a bigger turbo....