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Im after a picture of an FR/Cupra next to a non sporty ibiza :lol: i want to see if there is actually a difference in height between them.
and is the suspension from an FR going to be better than whats on my SE at the moment?
markthommo_84
18-02-2009, 17:11
ive got a picture somewhere of my 2006 sport next to my 2004 FR, not photo'd to compare height, but u can tell the FR is lower, i think anyway i'll see if i can find it.
my sig shows my 1.4 ibiza nose to nose with my mates FR. the wheels dosnt alter the height at all as it is using the same tyre size etc as the FR 205/45/17
I always said it was a myth that the FR was lower than other models.
IMO the only difference is in the firmness of the suspension
AndrewJB
18-02-2009, 20:11
i was told the cupra and fr are 15mm lower than the standard models
i was told the cupra and fr are 15mm lower than the standard models
This is probably right, the 15mm would be the extra weight of the heavy engine I guess?
AndrewJB
18-02-2009, 20:53
This is probably right, the 15mm would be the extra weight of the heavy engine I guess?
+ on the cupra youve got the fmic and pipeing
i could get you a pic of my fr and my sisters f/s but that would be pointless as from the front you can hardly tell the difference
The Cupra has a lower ride height and has the sports suspension. Not sure about FR
My dads 1.4 petrol sportrider is lower at the back than my FR (both on stock ride height)
markthommo_84
18-02-2009, 23:47
this is the best i can find. a photo of the back arch of my FR with the back arch of my Sport in the background, and a photo of the back arch of my Sport with the back arch of the FR in the background! Suppose what you ought to do is comare the foreground pic of the FR with the foreground pic of the Sport and see the differences in gap from tyre to arch.
of course theres a chance the handbrakes were on different tensions!
I wouldnt care, we now have a 1.2 Ref Sport, 1.9TDI Sport 130, and a 1.9TDI FR 130 in our household, i could line them all up and take some shots lol. Mines away having its face repaired tho :(
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v739/markthommo_84/Ibiza/P1010074.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v739/markthommo_84/Ibiza/P1010075.jpg
I'm pretty sure its just to do with the added weight of the bigger engine as with the Corsa SXi and SRi, my mates drive both and the SRi is lower by 15mm but has a 1.8, it is most likely that the springs/shock setup is firmer on the FR and not infact actually lower save for what is naturally caused by having a heavier/bigger engine.
I'm pretty sure its just to do with the added weight of the bigger engine as with the Corsa SXi and SRi, my mates drive both and the SRi is lower by 15mm but has a 1.8, it is most likely that the springs/shock setup is firmer on the FR and not infact actually lower save for what is naturally caused by having a heavier/bigger engine.
It's not because of the engine weight. The 1.9 diesel FR and Cupra weigh more than the 1.8T FR and Cupra but the ride height wouldn't be different between them. The suspension is different on the Cupras, just read the reviews:
Interestingly, compared with the FR, the Cupra has shorter, stiffer shocks, a lower ride height and slightly thicker anti-roll bars but softer springs.
well there you go then, apparently i was lying, apologies haha
cheers for clearing it up though Kriso
so the FR/cupra suspension would be a worthwhile upgrade on my current suspension as tbh it feels like jelly :( :lol:
george130
19-02-2009, 12:07
so the FR/cupra suspension would be a worthwhile upgrade on my current suspension as tbh it feels like jelly :( :lol:
Possibly, assuming you can buy the suspension cheap and fit it yourself (or again, cheap)...
Otherwise its a lot to pay in labour for a very minor difference!
You used to be able to buy the sports suspension option from Seat as an aftermarket item, not sure if you still can. It's alot stiffer than than the standard suspension, but you may want to fit the stiffer ARB too if you are doing this. Or you could just buy aftermarket suspension.
dont want aftermarket suspension want to keep it oem as i dont intend to modify it as such, i just want to handle a bit better as im actually scared of my car at times :lol:
cupra.al
19-02-2009, 18:23
dont want aftermarket suspension want to keep it oem as i dont intend to modify it as such, i just want to handle a bit better as im actually scared of my car at times :lol:
slow down then.
markthommo_84
19-02-2009, 18:25
slow down then.
second that. most cars will go round corners faster than most people dare. if its scared you then you've been going too fast. if its a basic ibiza, drive it like one
dont want aftermarket suspension want to keep it oem as i dont intend to modify it as such, i just want to handle a bit better as im actually scared of my car at times :lol:
slow down then.
That made me sound bad :lol: nah I mean im scared of it in the sense that i have never pushed it through corners as im afraid it wont handle well at all. just feels so mushy round bends when driving normally iv never been for a spirited drive like i used to in my old car :(
cupra.al
22-02-2009, 10:55
theres no point getting better suspension untill you know the limits of your current setup otherwise you wont even know the way the car is suppose to handle. how do you know it doesnt handle well already if you havent pushed through corners its not like you go madd straight away just keep building the speed slowly untill you feel a slight slip of the wheels then you know the cars at its edge of handling.
You should go for a rear ARB if you want it to stop feeling mushy throught the corners. The stiffer Cupra shocks would also harden up the ride and stop the car pitching as much under acceleration and braking. But the ARB reduces the roll through the corners so it will feel more planted.
NickyJam
22-02-2009, 14:22
i've gone round bends in my Ibiza in 4th and the back end has started to go, but is probably due to not having an ARB...but the front strut brace helps a fair bit to front end grip
i've gone round bends in my Ibiza in 4th and the back end has started to go, but is probably due to not having an ARB...but the front strut brace helps a fair bit to front end grip
same here m8, i always go for a spirited drive wen i go to my gfs house as its a nice road.
although i do have my car lowerd, some corners i do in 3rd and get rear end slip
i went for a semi spirited drive last night, and it wasnt that bad... still rollls for too much for my liking so think i will invest in the strut brace or arb in the near future :)