Leon flip Key guide

[stevie steve]

After searching and looking through a lot of threads on here, I thought I would sum it all up and do a flip key step by step guide for the Leon.

One of the first things I will say is that (for me anyway) I paid no attention to the frequencys on the key. Just making sure that I brought a Hella version.

My leon Key is as you can see a 433 Mhz key and he one I brought from ebay was a 434 Mhz key and works the same
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I brought the replacement key from ebay from autopartcentre the item I brought had this in the title VW VOLKSWAGEN GOLF MK4 BORA REMOTE FLIP KEY FOB as the link will expire
As he states it comes with a blank keyblade.

Reprogram new remote.
Hopefully you will have 2 keys - both with transponders in. I used 2 keys to do this.
1. Switch Ignition ON and leave keyONE in the ignition.
2. Mechanically lock the vehicle using the Drivers door using keyTWO
3. Using the remote control(flip key)
press the UNLOCK button once, and the horn will sound once. (mine didnt)
4. Wait 6 seconds and press the UNLOCK button again to activate the coding procedure
and the horn will sound once.
The remote control will now be programmed. Happy days :funk::funk:

Now the blade swap
Prize apart old (remote in my case) key and remove transponder, little glass tube.
DO NOT LOSE as this is whats needed for the door/ignition in the new key.
The transponder in mine was lose, some maybe glued in, Meths/Nail varnish remover will soften this glue.

Prize open the flip key with a large flat bladed screwdriver here
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The Blade of the flip key needs to be removed undoing the screw which has sneakily been hidden under a VW/Skoda badge. Badge can be prized out with a smallish flat blade screw driver. No need to worry about the old badge ehhh ;)
http://i50.photobucket.com/albums/f330/stevieh59/Image693.jpg

With the screw CAREFULLY removed, inside will reveal all. The silver button which you press, spring to create the flip and the blade itself and of course a old transponder. Throw away this as it is of no real use.

Insert your old transponder from seat key. No need to glue as its held in place from the other side of the key.

Get the blank blade cut. I know that Timpsons do this and these are pretty much everywhere. The new blank blade doesn't come attached to its swivel, so get Timpsons to knock out the pin of the old blade, and put your new cut blade onto the silver hinge piece.

Line up the 3 locators. It should only go in one way. Insert the spring so the bit that sticks out from the spring is at the top. Twist spring, so it engages inside the button.
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You have to reload the spring so that it flips open. To do this insert other side of key from above, onto the key hinge. The rotate, counter clockwise once.
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Hold together and rescrew the key back together. Popping the other end with remote and key loop back onto your new key.

Get on the web (fleabay) and search for a Leon flip key badge or something.

There we go job done. Remember the frequesncy (for me) was irrelevant

Hope this helps someone. [B)]

[r6_allan]

I think there is a few guides or threads with loads of info but they do drop down the pages over time.
Nice write up anyway. Maybe the mods can put this in the FAQ section but this isn't strickly Leon specific.

[LEE69]

The blade can be removed by pressing out the roll pin when the key is opened and the blade is 90 deg to the fob.

[stevie steve]

I know theres a few guides lying around, but wanted to try and get what I did on one post. Most of my info came from a ibiza post, so yeah it could easily apply to rest of the Seat range.

Yeah I got it out with a drawing pin, but thought while I was in there he could do it for me lol. Didnt want to loose the pin to be honest

[jet-black]

Ive just bought a Leon but it only had the non flip key. I need to get another does it matter if i get a 2 or 3 button flip key?

Cheers

[ben652]

i only have two keys one remote and the other is just a key so if i just put the transponder out of the remote one into the vw flip key it will work or does it still need coding i no it might sound a bit thick but i am new to this thanks for any hep

[LEE69]

so if i just put the transponder out of the remote one into the vw flip key it will work or does it still need coding

The remote will need pairing to the car, the transponder shouldn't.

[LEE69]

Use this guide

http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1502225&postcount=2

[ChrisUK]

My transponder was glued in a LOT !

I had to heat up a knife & melt my key to get it out lol.

Works a charm though & only cost about £15 to do (£12.50 for key, £2.50 to cut the blade)

[Seat Gooner]

"stevie steve" nice write up mate :clap:

[MarkWales]

what if i only have one key

[Cupra Ross]

what if i only have one key

You simply buy a new transponder from here: http://www.hickleys.com/diagnostics/keys_list.php?manu=40

Its the "AKTP2" one at £3 for the Leon.

Assuming you have your cars SKC code, you then get a mate with VAG-COM to sync the new immobiliser transponder with your car using this guide: http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/cars/key-matching-4digit.html

If you don't know your SKC, you'll need to get the new key synchronised by a SEAT dealer or if you know anybody with VAG-TACHO (like me :D) they may be able to plug in and find out what the SKC is but this doesn't always work.

[slim20vt]

when you say use the flip key to unlock the car by pressing unlock button do you mean the new key remote?

let me make myself clear,i put the standard non remote key in the ignition and turn it on!!

then i take the old remote that still works,(in my case) then lock the drivers door with the key remote but not pushing the lock button,turn key in lock instead!!

ok car then locks...


then do i press the new remote im programming to unlock the car? unlock once then,wait 6 seconds them press unlock on the new remote again to programme?

is this rite?

i have already had the new blank key blade cut and fitted to my replacement remote..

[ali831]

have phoned a couple of stealers for a quote to supply a second 3 button flip key so hubby and i have got one each. The price includes supply, programming and VAT. The quotes ranged from £140 to £173........ almost fell through the floor!!!! Might have a go at doing it myself !

[slim20vt]

ok did what you said and the remote works, didnt beep the horn tho
it set the alarm off twice then worked...

only prob is the key cutter made a shi*t job of cutting the spare blade and it wont turn on the ignition now?????????????????//
or lock the doors,any ideas?

[moshii]

Alright, had my key cut from Timpsons (£10 to get cut, but if there is any problems then it'll be covered :)). Just did this guide as I was going to pay £30 for a local car electrics place to program, and thought it couldn't do any hard.

The new key works fine, opens and locks the car, and starts the car. However, when I turn the ignition on (so the car is running) the light on the dash under the engine management light, which appears to be the Electronic Immobiliser continually flashes, which according to the owners manual shouldn't allow the car to start.

Have I done something wrong? I really don't want to be driving with this and the engine cut out or something.

[Cupra Ross]

Did you use the transponder from your old key? This is not the remote transmitter, its like a tiny little glass bulb.

[slim20vt]

my remote is working fine,with lcr wont start cause they cut the blade wrong,

i used the transponder in the 2nd hand remote i bort when i programmed im hoping when they sort the key blade out all will be fine,and car will start as well as unlock??????????????????????????????????????????????????????/

[moshii]

When I got the car I only had one key, so I bought a second flip key from eBay, then I bought a replacement blade which I got cut the other day.

Will the second key need a new transponder? I was under the impression that the one that is already in it would be able to be re-programmed to my car?

[slim20vt]

thats what i fort mate same for me...........

mine was from ebay i programmed it to the lcr today,and it locks and unlocks all doors, so im sure reprogramming it with the 2nd hand transponder shouild be fine

because when my old mk4 golf gti remote broke it wouldnt lock the doors but you could still drive the car!!! vw told me that was the transponder packing up????!!!!!!!!!!!

[moshii]

This is weird... I went back out to the car just there and the new key wouldn't start the engine anymore, so I thought that I'd try it one last time at re-programming it. When I press the unlock button the second time, the car alarm sounds. It is then able to lock and unlock the car, but still unable to start the engine...

[ben652]

i did what the guide said and mine worked perfect and i bought a 3 button flip key remote and now i can open just the boot and when i shut the boot only it auto locks the full car well worth the money cheers for the help with the guide

[Cupra Ross]

This is weird... I went back out to the car just there and the new key wouldn't start the engine anymore, so I thought that I'd try it one last time at re-programming it. When I press the unlock button the second time, the car alarm sounds. It is then able to lock and unlock the car, but still unable to start the engine...

I think some people are getting a little confused here. You can't just buy a new key and expect it to start your car after getting the blade cut. If you are not using the transponder from an old key that is already matched to your immobiliser, you will need your Security Key Code (SKC) in order to program your immobiliser to accept the new key using VAG-COM. If you don't have the SKC for your car, you will either need to find somebody with VAG-Tacho to get it from the car for you, or you will need to pay a SEAT dealer to synchronise the new key for you.

You can only manually synchronise the remote locking part of the key to suit your car. You cannot get your immobiliser to accept a new key with a new transponder without knowing your SKC and getting VAG-COM to do it. The reason you were able to start your engine before is that you had used the old key in the ignition immediately before using the new one, thats why the immobiliser light was flashing. This works but it only works immediately after using a matched key.

When I got the car I only had one key, so I bought a second flip key from eBay, then I bought a replacement blade which I got cut the other day.

Will the second key need a new transponder? I was under the impression that the one that is already in it would be able to be re-programmed to my car?

Its not a matter of re-programming the transponder in the key, you can't do that. A transponder of the type used in Leons has no capacity to be programmed, it transmits a set code when interrogated by your immobiliser. What you actually do is program your immobiliser to accept that code.

Cars built after 2002 were not supplied with an SKC. If this is the case, your only option is VAG-Tacho or a SEAT dealer.

[MarkWales]

mines an 04 so no skc need some one in the south wales area now with a vag tacho - anyone

[skahigh]

Ross, is Vag Tacho software that I can download and use with my ebay VagCom lead?

Edit: Nevermind, just found a post elsewhere that says it uses a different interface.

[MarkWales]

any chance of meeting up and having a chat about this

[Cupra Ross]

Ross, is Vag Tacho software that I can download and use with my ebay VagCom lead?

Edit: Nevermind, just found a post elsewhere that says it uses a different interface.

Other post is right mate, you need a different interface. Its a bit hit and miss anyway, some cars give up their immobiliser PIN dead easy and others just won't let the software read it.

Here's one for sale on ebay, the buy it nows from China are counterfeit copies.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/vag-tacho-usb-diagnostic-cable_W0QQitemZ330322555134QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Diagnostic_Tools_Equipment?hash=item330322555134&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A15|39%3A1|240%3A1318

You need to read the ECU or Immobiliser EEPROM on Leons, they don't respond to the "Read Immo PIN" function.

[MarkWales]

any ideas what i should do as i only have one key

[volvic]

any ideas what i should do as i only have one key

simple...

purchase a flip key with a blank blade, buy a couple of transponders from website listed on this thread..

then all you need is your key code... if you dont have this seat might be able to extract it. i know there are other threads talking about this latter problem if you dont have the code so just do a quick search...

i've just called a seat dealer and they want £24+vat to reprogram a transponder.... BARGIN!!

although when i asked her, its to program the chip not the fob she said "i dont really know, i asked how much it would cost to program the transponder"... fingers crossed it is £24+vat.

all i need to do is get mine cut now :D

[Cupra Ross]

I've bought a VW 2 button flip key that I'll be syncronising with my immobiliser using vag-tacho when I get home in a couple of weeks. I'm going to try it with it's old transponder first as immo 2 on the Leon shouldn't know the difference between an old transponder and a new one. I'll post my results when done.

If anybody in the area needs keys coded or their skc extracted from the leon immobiliser, give me a shout and I'll be happy to do it for you.

[CapnAHAB]

Can someone clarify this?

If the immobiliser needs to be coded to the transponder, then how do dealers supply new keys for cars? If each transponder is differrent then the immobiliser will need to be re-synched each time a nwe key is purchased, rendering all the old original keys useless?

[LEE69]

Yes it over writes the old coding of the keys, you input how many keys you want to add.

[Cupra Ross]

It doesn't render all the old keys useless. You add a new key to the list of accepted keys in the immobiliser's memory. It can "remember" up to 6 keys.

[CapnAHAB]

Ah right so it can store an array of numbers. Cracking cheers for clearing that up.

I'll be purchasing a key and giving this a go (and that lead posted above if anyone wants to get into a bidding war :)

Good post cheers, and if I win the lead anyone in South Wales needs to borrow it then let me know.

Ta!

[skahigh]

Ah right so it can store an array of numbers. Cracking cheers for clearing that up.

I'll be purchasing a key and giving this a go (and that lead posted above if anyone wants to get into a bidding war :)

Good post cheers, and if I win the lead anyone in South Wales needs to borrow it then let me know.

Ta!

Are you getting Vag Tacho? If so, I'd be interested in getting my SKC.

[MarkWales]

I'd be interested in getting my SKC.

Thompson and Thompson want £64.67 for Key £91.45 for remote - plus £25 to phase in to immobiliser including VAT

White Dove want Spare Key £64.67 or Blade £64.67 Remote £40.50 - plus £45 to phase in to immobiliser including VAT

[dmmsta]

I'd be interested in getting my SKC.

Thompson and Thompson want £64.67 for Key £91.45 for remote - plus £25 to phase in to immobiliser including VAT

White Dove want Spare Key £64.67 or Blade £64.67 Remote £40.50 - plus £45 to phase in to immobiliser including VAT

Licence to print money :banned:

[curryholic]

Interesting thread... really interested in doing this as I like the flip key rather than the standard straight 2 button key.

Having a look on fleebay there are places that just cut the blade and send it through for£7!!! Cheaper than Timpsons at £10, but you need to send them your key code and then swap the blades/transponder across as above!

What do people think about this?

[dmmsta]

Interesting thread... really interested in doing this as I like the flip key rather than the standard straight 2 button key.

Having a look on fleebay there are places that just cut the blade and send it through for£7!!! Cheaper than Timpsons at £10, but you need to send them your key code and then swap the blades/transponder across as above!

What do people think about this?

I'd rather pay the extra couple of quid, and know that I haven't given someone my key pattern, and address.

Probably over paranoid, but better safe than sorry .. :whistle:

[LEE69]

Mine wasn't £10 from an independent key cutter.

[Andrewcupra TDI]

i think im a but fooked if i have done the delock as i cant manually lock anything!!

is that vacho tacho the thing to use for auto windows too aint it , are them contorfeit ones any good

[dmmsta]

i think im a but fooked if i have done the delock as i cant manually lock anything!!

is that vacho tacho the thing to use for auto windows too aint it , are them contorfeit ones any good

Yeah "de-locking" could scupper the plans to add another key, or at least program it to the central locking.

Not sure if a stealers has an alternate method??

[Andrewcupra TDI]

doh , should have programmed a few keys before doing it , could try reversing it , just to do it

[dmmsta]

doh , should have programmed a few keys before doing it , could try reversing it , just to do it

It's the only way you'll be able to sort this yourself I reckon :(

[MarkWales]

how have you delocked your car? have you used the metal disc or swapped the handles? can you use the boot look?

[Mr Bigglesworth]

Anyone know where to get a spare roll pin for the flip key?

Tried VW garage and they said no.

[stevie steve]

i hate to say it but ebay, just buy and old one on there and job done

Even a scrappy might have an old key

[CapnAHAB]

OK i have a vag tacho cable on its way, so anyone local to Ponty / Cardiff can borrow it.

Once I get my cable... how do I go about coding up the transponder (i've bought a new transponder too)

[curryholic]

Use this guide

http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1502225&postcount=2

Evening chaps... well I've finally won a fleebay auction for a 3 button flip key so hopefully will be doing this next week!

Just had a look through the above guide and it says to use the existing key in the ignition and the new key on the outside but the poster above seems to be saying the opposite. :confused:

Could I clear up that it is the new key you use outside as you are programming the car to remember the new key (not an existing one which is in the ignition)?

I'm going to rob the transponder out of the spare key so I shouldn't need to do any funky stuff with VAG-Com, etc. Just gotta try and not loose the spring :lol:

Cheers,
dave

[allymccall]

Help, bought i flip key of ebay, it was a vw one but said he would work on my seat to, my car is a seat ibiza sport 57 reg, and tryed programming it to my car without out any luck tyred most methods including the ones above, any one got any ideas on how to do this.

[curryholic]

Just got the flip key through from ebay :D and thought I'd swap it over but guess what... no success!!!

I started by using nail polish to stripping the transponder out which seemed to loosen everything out and then guess what... the :censored: glass snapped! [:@] Just to check it still works I put it in the spare and started the car and it seems to work ok. Is it screwed? I've put some insulating tape round it for now.

The second thing that's screwed is the top end of the key... I started gently prizing the key apart which didn't seem to do anything, luckily I was doing it from the inside of the key rather than the outside and it's not shifted at all. Any ideas on how to split the car apart?

Cheers,
[:@]Dave[:@]

[curryholic]

Oh and before you ask yes I did unscrew the screw under the emblem!

[Mr Bigglesworth]

Is there an easy way to get the emblem off, I've been seriously struggling with the VW sign and making a bit of a mess of the plastic whilst I very slowly chip away at it - it doesn't seem to want to peel or flick off as I was hoping.

[stevie steve]

I would really push into the vw emblem as I presume you dont want to keep that bit ;)

It really should just unstick

[curryholic]

that was the one success i had, managed to fit a tiny screwdriver down the side and flick it out!

[curryholic]

Evening... well I eventually got the key sorted, the cutter I went to gave me some guff about not guaranteeing the key as it was from ebay, etc I said not to worry got some spares. Anyway first off he'd not taken enough off but it wouldn't even go in the lock[:@] so went back today shaved a bit more off and it fitted fine:lol:

So got home printed off the coding bit and mine didn't pip the horn/lights/etc and didn't seem to do anything so in the end gave up went to lock the car and thought why not try the new key... it works:shrug::wtf::funk:

So now I need to book in and get the transponder codings set with the immobiliser and I'll be sweet as!!!

Just out of interest the key cutter had a transponder coding machine but couldn't read the code from my existing key?!?!:think: MEH!!!

[stevie steve]

Evening... well I eventually got the key sorted, the cutter I went to gave me some guff about not guaranteeing the key as it was from ebay, etc I said not to worry got some spares. Anyway first off he'd not taken enough off but it wouldn't even go in the lock[:@] so went back today shaved a bit more off and it fitted fine:lol:

I had no such joy at Timpsons, one side was hardly cut at all. In the end I sent a photo to someone on ebay, received wuth 24 hours and it worked like a dream!!!!

Still not sure how they did it - but a great service none the less

[curryholic]

I had no such joy at Timpsons, one side was hardly cut at all. In the end I sent a photo to someone on ebay, received wuth 24 hours and it worked like a dream!!!!

Still not sure how they did it - but a great service none the less
Timpsons wouldn't do mine either, had to go to a "proper" locksmith/key cutter. It must be that the groove needs to be a certain depth and the pattern would've been scaleable and the locks aren't that specific (within a bit of tolerance?!?!)

as an update after I did the coding put up my last post. Went out after to try it again and nothing... the original remote didn't even unlock the doors, opened with the key and then tried again both worked :shrug: I dunno!!!

[cruising03uk]

so am i right that i can buy any version of key 3 button or 2 button and part number or mhz 433 or 434 will not matter?

will it still work with my car once coded to my immobilizer?

before i had a 2 button remote?

thanks

[stevie steve]

so am i right that i can buy any version of key 3 button or 2 button and part number or mhz 433 or 434 will not matter?

will it still work with my car once coded to my immobilizer?

before i had a 2 button remote?

thanks

I've not tried a 3 button key. But for me the frequesncy was irrelevant. I think I showed my frequencies in the pic. But yeah worked for me

[dmmsta]

so am i right that i can buy any version of key 3 button or 2 button and part number or mhz 433 or 434 will not matter?

will it still work with my car once coded to my immobilizer?

before i had a 2 button remote?

thanks

Not every part number works !! :confused: Can't remember what mine was, but i'm sure I posted it on here somewhere! From memory the P/N's are all the same except the last 2 letters, which is the important bit.

There is no issue with Freq, or at least none that have been mentioned on here!

As for 2 or 3 button keys...not much point in 3 button, as the boot release wont do anything on an LC.

[LEE69]

As for 2 or 3 button keys...not much point in 3 button, as the boot release wont do anything on an LC.

There is a Leon on here and the boot button actually works.

[dmmsta]

There is a Leon on here and the boot button actually works.

Must be personal mod then, as there isn't a solenoid in the boot latch as far as I was aware?

Can't be that difficult tho surely :confused:

[LEE69]

http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=211191&highlight=boot

[dmmsta]

http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=211191&highlight=boot

Well bu%%er me...if I'd have know that I'd have got a 3 button one too...

Ho-hum...

[LEE69]

Me and you both, always worth a try.

[cupradan]

quick question about this. if i only have one key and buy a flip key could i have the blade cut first, fit this into the flip key, then use this to manually lock the car allowing me to do the central locking coding and then swap the transponders over?

[stevie steve]

quick question about this. if i only have one key and buy a flip key could i have the blade cut first, fit this into the flip key, then use this to manually lock the car allowing me to do the central locking coding and then swap the transponders over?

Not to sure about this as I believe the transponder is needed in the ignition and in the key to door at the same time. Not sure if it would still lock the door :headhurt:

I can see what your trying to do, but I'm thinking you may need 2 of the transponders

It might be worth reading back through this post and seeing if anyone else has mentioned one key only. I think someone had a one key problem

[cupradan]

well it seems it doesnt work. my friend works for VW and gave me a brand new key he had lying around. i got the blade cut and tried it by putting my original key in the ignition (ignition on) and locking the the car manually with the newly cut blade. trying the coding procedure (unlock, wait 6 secs, unlock again) did nothing. i even tried it with the new key in the ignition and locking the car with the old key but still no luck.

we were going to get the key coded at his dealership but the tech guy there has told him i ave o go to seat. is that right?

[cupradan]

Heads up for everyone. My mate has asked in more detail about this and it seems that if you are going to a dealer only Seat can do this. Apparently they send the chassis number to VW and if the make of car doesnt match the dealer youre at (eg VW dealer sending Seat chassis number) they refuse to supply the information.

So onto my next question: Is there anyone near the Huddersfield area that has vag-tacho and vag-com who could code my key for a few beer tokens?

[andi leon frtdi]

Well i've not bought any key yet but i really want a 3 button one as it seems that it may work ????? But the thing that is stopping me is the cost of the transponder coding.
So let's see what people are paying.
I have had two quotes £90 +vat and £45 +vat but i would have to travel a long way to get the £45 one done.

I will also add that this is only for coding the transponder not the key cutting, remote programming and cost of key.

[dmmsta]

Well i've not bought any key yet but i really want a 3 button one as it seems that it may work ????? But the thing that is stopping me is the cost of the transponder coding.
So let's see what people are paying.
I have had two quotes £90 +vat and £45 +vat but i would have to travel a long way to get the £45 one done.

I will also add that this is only for coding the transponder not the key cutting, remote programming and cost of key.

Key cutting ~ £5
Remote Programming ~ FREE :D
Cost of Key ~ £15 (eBay)

Just to give you an idea...

[andi leon frtdi]

Key cutting ~ £5
Remote Programming ~ FREE :D
Cost of Key ~ £15 (eBay)

Just to give you an idea...

thanks for that but its the transponder coding i was looking for ( price of ) i really want a flip key but i don't want to spend loads of money just on the coding of the transponder. does anyone have any ideas ?

[LEE69]

Ask in the vag com section and someone might pair it for you ;)

[dmmsta]

thanks for that but its the transponder coding i was looking for ( price of ) i really want a flip key but i don't want to spend loads of money just on the coding of the transponder. does anyone have any ideas ?

My bad, it was just to give you an idea onto of the quotes you'd already got...

[dr62]

very nice explanation, but I have a question. I have 2b remote key part.no. 1MO 959753D 433MHz and find a new remote flip key 434MHz part.no. 1JO959753 DA. Before I order it can anyone tell me is it compatible with my existing key.

Thanks

[curryholic]

I've finally got around to sorting mine out. Rung around abit and can confirm that I've been told that now the only way to code the transponder into the immobiliser is to take it to the dealer as their computer system has to talk to head office whilst plugged in, they won't give the SKC, apparently they've all recently moved over to a new system... bloody typical!!! I'm booked in on Friday :)

[dmmsta]

I've finally got around to sorting mine out. Rung around abit and can confirm that I've been told that now the only way to code the transponder into the immobiliser is to take it to the dealer as their computer system has to talk to head office whilst plugged in, they won't give the SKC, apparently they've all recently moved over to a new system... bloody typical!!! I'm booked in on Friday :)

Nice to know they have found another way to relieve us of our hard earned yet again... :censored:

[curryholic]

Got it done this afters at Ted Johnson's Barnsley. First time I've used 'em and very pleased, took less than 1/2 hr so came in cheaper than I expected too ;)

Well happy bunny now!

Dave

[oldman]

right, please bear with me.
got two flip keys housing and new blades cut which work in ignition & boot all ok.
got two transponders from hickleys
put them all together and decided today i would get coded at garage.

Now, it seems they are unable to do this as the blade is marked with W NOT W3 upon it.
the info sheet explains: The contact keys for third generation immbilisers are stamped in the metallic zone with: W3
as such it will not work, or they can't do it!
Any thoughts?
Can people check the letters stamped on metal part and see what it says.

I think i have the SKC code aka immobiliser identification number so any offers to do are appreciated for beer money :)

[stevie steve]

None on my blade...

It came from ebay, took a pic and sent him the pic, back comes a fully working blade.

Scarily enough the bloke at timpsons tried cutting a blade twice to get the key to work from the blade I gave him to copy.

Other guy does it with a jpeg lol

[LEE69]

I can't see the blade having any effect, it's the immob that is different on the later cars.

[oldman]

stevie steve, now that is weird...
mmm i wonder if just the garage then as they are new at seat cars. mainly honda & mitsibushi
help request out on vag-com section then

wondered how the sellers offered that service, as seemed strange

[Ptar64]

Hello all!

Had a go at getting my flip key sorted out, after getting one for £12 off ebay, whoop!

First blank key, timpson cut it and failed. Shocking cut, didnt want to know afterwards.

Got another one cut off ebay from ddkeyprogrammers. Received yesterday, fantastic cut!! Well worth the £7 and service.

Went to get my transponder out my service key. Spent 2 hours pouring nail polish remover and slowly taking off the glue, then the glass snapped :(.

Is it worth going down the route of paying out for VAG-Tacho and trying to do it myself?
Or if anyone in the Leicestershire area has it and will gladly pay them :).

Or is it better to go to the dealers and get its programmed there?

I seen mixed views about Tacho not connecting properly ect, I suppose that might mean the fleabay versions tho.

Regards,
Pete.

[stevie steve]

Hello all!

Got another one cut off ebay from ddkeyprogrammers. Received yesterday, fantastic cut!! Well worth the £7 and service.


Thats who I went to - shockingly accurate service - recommended all the way

[Ptar64]

Thats who I went to - shockingly accurate service - recommended all the way

Lol tbh thats why I went with them :p Seen your earlier post recommending them. Just a clean cut key that works!

[stevie steve]

I was so skeptical when I heard it, but its like its your old key, just goes straight in.

Sounds like your timpson key was as bad as mine. Like I said before, crazy that a man can cut a key better from a jpeg than a actual key:wtf:

[Ptar64]

I was so skeptical when I heard it, but its like its your old key, just goes straight in.

Sounds like your timpson key was as bad as mine. Like I said before, crazy that a man can cut a key better from a jpeg than a actual key:wtf:

How he does it.... i dont know! Amazing though!
Yeah, the key they done for me was shocking, not a clean cut at all, he couldnt make it smoother and the cut was bigger than my original one.

Just need my transponder getting coded now. Cant believe i broke mine after 2 hours of working at the glue!

[curryholic]

What car you got? The VAG Tacho seems to work for some, not for others. VAG Tacho is fairly limited in application so if it doesn't work that's your money wasted. Dealers will do it first time and it'll be right (in theory!).

I did the same as you steady as you go with nail varnish remover and just at the last minute... crack :(

[Ptar64]

What car you got? The VAG Tacho seems to work for some, not for others. VAG Tacho is fairly limited in application so if it doesn't work that's your money wasted. Dealers will do it first time and it'll be right (in theory!).

I did the same as you steady as you go with nail varnish remover and just at the last minute... crack :(

Sorry, I forgot to say :ban:

Got a MK1 Seat Leon 110 SX 2003.

Yeah Im worried about it not wanting to connect and thats £30 wasted :(. Going to get in contact with some local dealers and see what prices they quote me.

I about smashed my key when that happened! See it go crack before my eyes :cry:.

[curryholic]

I heard mine crack first then it fell out from the back :( It was very disheartening!!!

I got mine done and they only charged me 1/2 hrs labour so not too bad. But I got the cable for tacho and com so I can have a play, etc! Didn't tell the wife ;)

[Ptar64]

I heard mine crack first then it fell out from the back :( It was very disheartening!!!

I got mine done and they only charged me 1/2 hrs labour so not too bad. But I got the cable for tacho and com so I can have a play, etc! Didn't tell the wife ;)

:(
How much was it? If you dont mind me asking :).
I would love to have a go, being a PC nerd :p. If the dealers charge about £50 or less, ill go to them.
Otherwise, ill be getting the tacho and have a play too!

[curryholic]

I'm the same thought I've have a go at coding it myself but eventually gave up and admitted defeat (I know I'm not a real man ;) )

I got the cable off ebay, wasn't much I think probably less £20. Have a mooch to see if it works with your immobiliser on here (do a search) and then play. VAG Tacho is limited to reading the SKC code (needed to code in new keys), resetting fault codes and coding keys and a couple of other things, VAG Com is much better and can code keys in (but you need the SKC Code).

The SKC code is the difficult bit to get from the car and that was the deciding factor for me!!!

Good luck and keep us posted!

[cupradan]

my vag tacho just came through so im hoping i can get this second key sorted

[curryholic]

Good luck!

[oldman]

let us know how you get on cupradan and the steps involved as well please.
would like to set mine up for use rather than gather dust

[cupradan]

well that was interesting.

it would only connect as VDO new. Then it managed to pull the SKC out. However, when I tried to program the new key it wiped all the existing keys off and then wouldn't add the new one. It kept saying it had but it hadn't. In the end I managed to get it to add and accept the old key again, but this new key is still sat doing nothing.

If I could get this new flip key to code itself to the central locking then I'd just swap the transponder out of the old key but it won't even do that!! :lol:

[curryholic]

That's bizarre, the remote coding worked for me but I couldn't get the SKC out of the Immobiliser!? Did you get a "manual"/howto with the cable? I did which described the method to code in the key... but I couldn't get that far :(

What year is your leon? Did you see the video on youtube about how to code in the key?

[cupradan]

its 2001 LC. yeh I saw the video for it. Nowt doin. I even worked out the exact way of pairing the key. Each time I did it with the old key it was fine. When I tried the new one it just wasnt having it.

[chudy_lis]

Guys - be carefull with vag tacho - its easy to make big mess when you dont know what u are doing.
About blade - doesnt matter if its 3w blade or chinese cheap one.
Now, it seems they are unable to do this as the blade is marked with W NOT W3 upon it.
the info sheet explains: The contact keys for third generation immbilisers are stamped in the metallic zone with: W3 - oldman - change the garage - it seems they havent got the equipment to do that.
blade must be properly cuted not copied!!!!!!!
all VW/SEAT/SKODA blades can be described by numbers eg 123456 or 243153.
ddkeyprogrammers read key number from the picture and then they input that code into digital machine wihich cuts the blade.
if timpson or any other key cutter is copying key i'm 99% sure it will fail (may work in the lock but not the ignition).

[suzywoozy]

Now I know this may sound stupid as there is alot of info above!! I have 1 2 button key which flashes but does nothing else for my 2001 (Y) reg Leon. I really want to get a flip key for it but can't work out how I'd re-programme it as I've only the one key that doesn't seem to work anyway!!
Can someone help a lady in distress!!!!!!????????????
Thank you :o)

[chudy_lis]

Now I know this may sound stupid as there is alot of info above!! I have 1 2 button key which flashes but does nothing else for my 2001 (Y) reg Leon. I really want to get a flip key for it but can't work out how I'd re-programme it as I've only the one key that doesn't seem to work anyway!!
Can someone help a lady in distress!!!!!!????????????
Thank you :o)
u need second key or VAG-COM interface. third option doesnt exist

[Scotty_b]

Hey guys im looking for some help/info. Ive got my second key and i have an old key with a transponder in but seeing as there only £3 and hard to get out id get a new one but heres my problem, i have taken my drivers lock out so is there anyway to re program the lock without the lock! As in can you use the boot lock? And does anyone in the herts area have vag-tacho i could borrow! I have vag com etc but not sure if its an upgrade etc. PS sorry for the questions but im on my phone so cant get to everything

[Scotty_b]

Right ive got the key cut but im stuffed if i can get the pin out to swap them over, is there a nack to it as ive read loads of audi guides etc and they say just push but ive bent every pin/bar ive got to try and get it out! Any help would be good!

[LEE69]

Mine pushed easily, you tried from both sides?

[Scotty_b]

Yeah both sides and tried to wiggle it!

[LEE69]

You know the drawing pins that have a "Grip" used on cork boards?

I used one of those and tapped the pin out then pulled te rest with pliers.

Same as this pic http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ef/Pin-artsy.jpg

[curryholic]

Or a very narrow drift/pin pusher?

[Scotty_b]

Nope i cant get anything to knock it out, everything small enough just bends! Does it only come out one way?

[oldman]

sorry for so many questions, just annoyed cannot do this, and am thinking £150 at dealers is a good investment.

right tried to do this at lunchtime using these instructions:
http://www.ross-tech.com/vag-com/cars/vw-remote-matching.html -> nothing, zip, zilch, nada
it would not let me alter the number of keys to anything greater than 1.

was using vag-com registered version 311

why would this be?
also vag-tacho -> is this software that uses it's own cable? or is a vag-com cable good enough?
also, if i have no drivers door lock (de-locked) how can i remote sync? os is that part of the whole jobbie?

[LEE69]

They need their own cables for the different software.

Not sure on why you can't ad them though.

[oldman]

cheers lee.
so now need to spend more, getting silly this.

[surinderjasleen]

HI, i have a leon x-reg, with the old style remote key. i have succesfully managed to buy n get working a new flip key with 2 buttons for my car.

BUT, i went to a guy to the get the new key cut, but he wouldnt cut the blank blade on the flip key i bought because he didnt trust the new blade i had on the new flip key in his cutter, so he cut n gave me one of his spare blank blades and cut it for me. Everything is fine with the blade BUT i need to swap over the 2 blades now. The one attached to the new flip key (uncut blade) is attached to the metal hinge but i cant see any so called "roll pin", so shuld come straight out but i cant get it out, and seems to b stuck. does anyone know how to get this out with damaging anything??

ALSO, because i have a new flip key, and its the first flip key i have, i have no roll pin to put into the new flip key when i get the blades changed over. where can i get one or what can i use?

Any help appreciated!!

[leeo]

Hi, I cannot get my flip key to sync with my car. (2001 TDI 110).

I bought an audi 2 button flip key from ebay, which I haven't cut the blade for yet, I wanted to sync it first. The audi key is 433mhz and it does have battery power as it was tested by a auto lock smith. I have 2 other keys; one remote with two buttons (unlock is very sticky which is why I wanted to get the flip key) and another seat key.

I have tried the method on the first page but nothing, no horn, no indicators and it doesn't lock or unlock the car.

One thing to note with my central locking is that when unlocking mechanically from drivers side it doesn't unlock all four doors it only unlocks the drivers door and doesn't disarm the alarm. Also when locking mechanically from the drivers it will lock all four doors however the drivers door lock pops up afterwards, to try the method I left it turned when locking and it stayed down. The passenger side works fine both unlocking and locking.

Any Help greatly appreciated, could it be related to my central locking or is it the audi key?

Many Thanks,

Lee

[mikeyg_uk]

Hi hoping someone can help.. Currently I've got one two button non flip key made by Hella which is 433mhz and a normal valet key.. I've just bought a seat two button flip key which is also made by Hella and is 433mhz. The product number for this key is HLO 1JO 959 753 N, will this work with my leon? Thanks

[stevie steve]

YEah I cant see no reason why not.

Just need transponder (tiny glass tube in the original key) and put in new key

[mikeyg_uk]

New blade is done, got the transponder from the old valet key so that all good. Just need to program it, there are a few different guide so i'm a little confused. Does it Matter if I dont actually use the new key to put in the ignition or door (but obviously using the keyfob buttons on new remote to program it in)?

[MrBen2k7]

Can I do this...

I have one remote key with buttons on and one normal key with no buttons on.

Is it possible to do it this way with my set up?

Ben

[mikeyg_uk]

Couldn't get the bugger to work, not even my stealer could get it to work with their computer.

it's verified as working by the stealer but I've given up with the key so I've bunged it on fleebay!!

I'm going to buy an exact model as I've already got, then hopefully I can't go wrong!! I hope!!

Does the working transponder need to be in the key before programming will work?

[itfben]

I wanted to do the flip key conversion, I bought a 2 button vw flipkey off ebay it arrived the other day from hong kong. Iv opened it up and it looks like i have to put a battery in one side which is find i will put this in from my old non-flip key with remote unlocking in it. but on the other side it looks like i put a chip in it with when you push the buttons from the outside it does the unlocking bit. but when looking in my non-flip remote key the chip is wider and a different shape.

any thought what to do?

also i was going to look into getting a genuine key blade to get cut in stead of gtting the one in this hong kong one cut as i dnt trust a cheap hong hong from snapping in my ignition.

i bought the hong hong key one ebay as it was less that £15 and it was shiney nice :)

One more thing the blade pointed on the hong kong one and looks different to my old blade but although i was going to replace it it makes me thin is it the wrong key? if it is maybe i could ask for a 3 button one as a replacement - BUT do these work? as in does the boot button work? i see one person's does any more people got it to work?

[cupradan]

I wanted to do the flip key conversion, I bought a 2 button vw flipkey off ebay it arrived the other day from hong kong. Iv opened it up and it looks like i have to put a battery in one side which is find i will put this in from my old non-flip key with remote unlocking in it. but on the other side it looks like i put a chip in it with when you push the buttons from the outside it does the unlocking bit. but when looking in my non-flip remote key the chip is wider and a different shape.

any thought what to do?

also i was going to look into getting a genuine key blade to get cut in stead of gtting the one in this hong kong one cut as i dnt trust a cheap hong hong from snapping in my ignition.

i bought the hong hong key one ebay as it was less that £15 and it was shiney nice :)

One more thing the blade pointed on the hong kong one and looks different to my old blade but although i was going to replace it it makes me thin is it the wrong key? if it is maybe i could ask for a 3 button one as a replacement - BUT do these work? as in does the boot button work? i see one person's does any more people got it to work?

oh dear, you've bought the casing but not the internal gubbins. the stuff from your old style key wont fit in it so youll have to buy again

[cupra_fr]

Hi, could someone help me out here please...

My case for my key was broken, so i just bought a new 2 button case of ebay...

i swaped everything from the old key case into my new case (blade, battery, circuit)

now the fob unlocks and locks the car, when i put it in the ignition it even light up the speedo, but the car doesnt stay started, and my immobiliser light is flashing....

Could anyone shed any light on this...?

Note : i have the normal key with the black keycode tag aswell... that starts the car fine..!

[LEE69]

Sounds like the transponder chip as got damaged somehow/wasn't swapped over.

[cupra_fr]

Sounds like the transponder chip as got damaged somehow/wasn't swapped over.

is that the small green ciruit board....? i just carefully took it out and placed it into the new fob... :(

[r6_allan]

The chip is located in the top part of the key. You have to remove the badge on the back and there is a screw. Open and the chip is inside. Some are well glued in and they can be tricky to remove without damaging the glass casing. From reading the above it doesn't sound like you moved the transponder as well :)

[cupra_fr]

The chip is located in the top part of the key. You have to remove the badge on the back and there is a screw. Open and the chip is inside. Some are well glued in and they can be tricky to remove without damaging the glass casing. From reading the above it doesn't sound like you moved the transponder as well :)

where the blade is?? in that part of the key..?

[r6_allan]

Yep, remove the the seat, vw, audi or what ever badge is on the back of th key and there is a screw.
The transponder is inside. Everything you have moved over in the lower half is for the central locking.

[cupra_fr]

Yep, remove the the seat, vw, audi or what ever badge is on the back of th key and there is a screw.
The transponder is inside. Everything you have moved over in the lower half is for the central locking.

does it look like a small black piece of wire in that compartment next to where the blade is.. how do u get it out...?

[r6_allan]

Carefully :cartman:, its a coil in a glass case. Have a look here:

http://www.hickleys.com/diagnostics/keys_list.php?manu=40

It's AKTP2

I managed to pick mine out with a sewing needle carefully removing the glue, or you can heat up the glue with a hairdryer, possibly a lighter. WD40 or some other glue remover may help to soften the glue. Just take your time other wise you will damage the transponder. A replacement is cheap but you with need a dealer trip or somone with VAGCOM to code it for you. That is if you have a copy of your SKC code. More expense.

[cupra_fr]

Carefully :cartman:, its a coil in a glass case. Have a look here:

http://www.hickleys.com/diagnostics/keys_list.php?manu=40

It's AKTP2

I managed to pick mine out with a sewing needle carefully removing the glue, or you can heat up the glue with a hairdryer, possibly a lighter. WD40 or some other glue remover may help to soften the glue. Just take your time other wise you will damage the transponder. A replacement is cheap but you with need a dealer trip or somone with VAGCOM to code it for you. That is if you have a copy of your SKC code. More expense.

heated the bottom of key with a lighter, and erm i flicked it out with a pin now i cant find it... bloody heck!

[LEE69]

Sorry but :lol:

[cupra_fr]

lol, ive found it, just going to glue it in, and see it it work! fingers crossed!

[cupra_fr]

success... cheers guys! Great help!

[r6_allan]

:happy:

[stevie steve]

I still like the transponder across the room bit....:lol:

[MarkWales]

you must have a great set of eyes

[C9JD]

Bought a flip key (434 not 433) and had it cut.

It opens the door (haven't programmed the remote bit yet tho) but I have the old transponder in the new key and the engine won't start?

I put the transponder back in the old key (the remote is dead) and it starts the car?

What am I doing wrong?

[itfben]

i did what the guide said and mine worked perfect and i bought a 3 button flip key remote and now i can open just the boot and when i shut the boot only it auto locks the full car well worth the money cheers for the help with the guide

Im guna get a 3 button key but not 100% the boot bit will work. if it aint guna work it might look a bit stupid having a button on the remote that doesn't work and therefore will go for a 2 button, but ONLY if this is the case.

what are the chances of it working for me?

[cu-cu-cupra]

Hello,

Been googling and searching on this all week but can't really get a yes/no, just a maybe answer.

Can anyone tell me if...

PART NO. HLO 1KO 959 753 G - 434 MHZ will act as a replacement for a 5FA 007 680? 2004 Leon....

Anyone at all lol?

Many many thanks!
Chris.

[itfben]

didnt work could it be cause my key details are as follows:

http://iloapp.itfben.co.uk/data/_gallery//public/27/1281636339_resized.jpg?width=640&height=857

..its 434MHz so dont know why its not working.

I use my not remote key to unlock the car then turn the ignition (not the engine/car) on, then close the door lock it with the key from my remote key, then do the unlock button and then unlock button again after 6 seconds with the new flip key.

what am i doing wrong?

[itfben]

Bump

Help!

[stevie steve]

Have you put the original transponder in from your original remote key?

[itfben]

no does that need to be done at the start at the process then?

[itfben]

should the order therefore be:

1) install transponder
2) Reprogram new remote. (using method shown in first post)
3) Now the blade swap

[itfben]

Yes?

[LEE69]

Yes

[itfben]

ok took my transponder out of my non-flip remote key and put it into the new flip remote key.

locked the car door,
unlocked the car door,
put the non-remote key in and turned the ignition on
used the non-flip remote key with no transponder in to lock the door with the non-remote key still in the ignition,
then left that key in the lock,
press unlock on the new flip remote key with the non flip remote keys transponder in
waited 6 seconds and pressed in again

NOTHING! :(

[tillred]

Heres my 2 penith worth

1.If you started with a non-flip remote you can not get a flip remote to work the remote locking?

2.If you started with a flip remote you can buy another flip key,put the transponder into it from the spare & u can also sync the key to the remote locking(something do do with frequencies?)

[curryholic]

Heres my 2 penith worth

1.If you started with a non-flip remote you can not get a flip remote to work the remote locking?

2.If you started with a flip remote you can buy another flip key,put the transponder into it from the spare & u can also sync the key to the remote locking(something do do with frequencies?)

If you started with a non flip remote you can do a flip remote, follow the instructions and have a play around and it will eventually work, you may need a stealer to programme the new transponder but if reusing and old one you should be ok!

It worked for me and I had a non flip remote.

[stevie steve]

If you started with a non flip remote you can do a flip remote, follow the instructions and have a play around and it will eventually work, you may need a stealer to programme the new transponder but if reusing and old one you should be ok!

It worked for me and I had a non flip remote.

Worked for me - thats why I did the guide

[tillred]

If you started with a non flip remote you can do a flip remote, follow the instructions and have a play around and it will eventually work, you may need a stealer to programme the new transponder but if reusing and old one you should be ok!

It worked for me and I had a non flip remote.

Worked for me - thats why I did the guide

Thats great :) Can you lads tell me what flip key I need.... part number & frequency.I had a 2 button non flip & my car is a mk1 seat Leon 20vt.Thanks

[stevie steve]

Mine was brought off ebay. Was from a golf mk 4 I believe, not sure really.

Like I mentioned the frequency didn't matter for me. Just swapped the bits over, did the recode and job done.

[tillred]

Mine was brought off ebay. Was from a golf mk 4 I believe, not sure really.

Like I mentioned the frequency didn't matter for me. Just swapped the bits over, did the recode and job done.

THanks for all your help much appreciated.Just ordered a Seat 2 button flip with uncut blade.Will put a fresh transponder in & hopefully it'll all work :cheers:

[stevie steve]

No you need to keep the transponder from your old key, recode it how I said, by putting it in the new key.

A new transponder will have to be coded = £££

[tillred]

No you need to keep the transponder from your old key, recode it how I said, by putting it in the new key.

A new transponder will have to be coded = £££


Just thought I should clear this up.I had 2 keys....one 2 button remote & one non remote spare.
About a year ago I tried to take the transponder out of the spare & as usual ended up breaking it.So now left with only 1 working key which I managed to lose:cry:.Hence the new transponder for the spare:D.I'm getting the transponder coded today @ 50 notes all in so not to bad :rolleyes: When the flip key I've ordered arrives I'll put the transponder from my now recoded spare into the flip,get the blade cut & then follow your guide as how co code it so it works the remote locking.Once again thanks for the info from all :clap::clap:

[tillred]

oops double post:hide:

[curryholic]

The one in my pocket is a 3 button one that I got off ebay (got 2 because I mullered the first one!!!). It's got a coding of HLO1K0 959 753 and says 434 MHz on it.

I also got my transponder coded into the immobiliser for just under £50 (less than an hour for a technician).

Hope this helps.

[redtill]

The one in my pocket is a 3 button one that I got off ebay (got 2 because I mullered the first one!!!). It's got a coding of HLO1K0 959 753 and says 434 MHz on it.

I also got my transponder coded into the immobiliser for just under £50 (less than an hour for a technician).

Hope this helps.

I phoned 3 dealers..sorry stealers & got 3 quotes ...47+,70+ & 90+.Found a company that come to your car & do it 50 all in

Also I'm the same user 'tillred' couldn't remember the log in for this username so reregistered.Obviously now remember the log in for my original username:redface:

[volvic]

I phoned 3 dealers..sorry stealers & got 3 quotes ...47+,70+ & 90+.Found a company that come to your car & do it 50 all in


I had mine done at a dealer at £47ish inc vat. Make sure that company won't charge you if they cannot read the key. Mine had to be done at a dealer as no one could read it (I had the key code too)

[Mark300zx]

I have a working key/fob and a spare key/no fob, would it be advisable to get a spare fob in case of emergencies, or is there a way of running the car with just the spare key?

Also I see there are plenty of 434Mhz fobs on ebay, but how much bearing does the part number on the fob working with my car?

[foxes]

Im hurt on this one.
Brought new 2 button key fob offf ebay....swapped all around minus transponder but still locked/unlocked.
2)Started car & imobiliser light flashed and died.....replaced old transponder into new fob (using old key part only) still dead imobiliser.

Whats going on...ive not programed anything but im thinking of using my spare key for the time being.

thanks

[foxes]

Surely I can use the spare anyway as its whats it there for ??

[Adam87]

Hopefully someone can help me here. My key lost its programme because when I put new batteries in they wouldn't work because the contacts had bent so they were out for too long. Now I press the button on the key and the light flashes but it's no longer coded to my car.

I've used both the guide on post #1 on this thread as well as this one (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=1502225&postcount=2) but neither have worked. Can anyone offer any other suggestions as to how I can get the key to work again with my car?

Cheers

[jt20vt]

Great guide!
Just done what was said, got a flip key off ebay second hand, ended up being a three button one as it was going cheap. Purchased a spare blade and got the blade cut locally so swapped the blades over. Programed the remote section as per the guide which is the same as what the manual for the car says. Swapped the transponder from my spare key and hey-presto a working flip key :funk: all in all cost under £30 to do. My mate has a bora didn't beleive that it would work, he's very competative and gutted he didn't do it first.

[stevie steve]

Nice one - glad the guide is working

[cupratune]

I take it with the mk1 leon cupra i wouldn't be able to use a 3 button fob or is it possible?

I dont have a spare and my car tends to lock its self randomly and one day its going to catch me out lol

[stevie steve]

If you look back through the pages, youll find that a few have.

I didnt try myself

[heatfan8]

Hi all, I have been tempted by this for a while, but just wanted to clarify......If I buy an empty casing with a new blade in it, will I need to buy anythign else? I have 2 standard keys, so can use the transponder from my current key, but is there any other internal part I need??

I was going to purchase on of these:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SEAT-TWO-2-BUTTON-REMOTE-FLIP-KEY-FOB-BLANK-CASE-HAA-/180584589350?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2a0bae2826#ht_2214wt_1139

[itfben]

you have the transponder and the actually chip, the chip is a different shape in your non flip key so you need that hence why people buy used ones, but if you want that new key look you could get teh used key and then put the internals into the new casing even though your guna have a new looking key and you car isnt new so to speak that and the key fob with be Chinese copy rather that genuine VAG

[Cupra Ross]

Hi all, I have been tempted by this for a while, but just wanted to clarify......If I buy an empty casing with a new blade in it, will I need to buy anythign else? I have 2 standard keys, so can use the transponder from my current key, but is there any other internal part I need??

I was going to purchase on of these:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SEAT-TWO-2-BUTTON-REMOTE-FLIP-KEY-FOB-BLANK-CASE-HAA-/180584589350?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item2a0bae2826#ht_2214wt_1139

You need the remote control transmitter also.

[slayer188]

right sorry to ask a question that i am sure has been covered but i have read this post by post but just seem to be confusing myself so here goes

i bought a se 11o tdi last week but it only came with one key so i need i if not 2 spares so if i go and buy a new key ( flip etc off of ebay with the board and transponder ) do i just need to take it to seat and get them to code the transponder to the car? as i hate only having 1 key at the minute

[redtill]

right sorry to ask a question that i am sure has been covered but i have read this post by post but just seem to be confusing myself so here goes

i bought a se 11o tdi last week but it only came with one key so i need i if not 2 spares so if i go and buy a new key ( flip etc off of ebay with the board and transponder ) do i just need to take it to seat and get them to code the transponder to the car? as i hate only having 1 key at the minute

You'll need a fresh transponder which the dealer or auto locksmith will supply & they'll code it to your car.get this done by an auto lock smith (much cheaper)Then just follow the instructions on how to program the auto locking.

[slayer188]

You'll need a fresh transporter which the dealer or auto locksmith will supply & they'll code it to your car.get this done by an auto lock smith (much cheaper)Then just follow the instructions on how to program the auto locking.

Cheers for that been looking on ebay and there seems to be a few of the 2 and 3 button remotes for sale so should be able to get 1 or 2 of them and then the transponders look to be £3 each from hinkleys so all should be good

thanks for your help Rob

[redtill]

Cheers for that been looking on ebay and there seems to be a few of the 2 and 3 button remotes for sale so should be able to get 1 or 2 of them and then the transponders look to be £3 each from hinkleys so all should be good

thanks for your help Rob

No worries.Let us know how you get on

[slayer188]

No worries.Let us know how you get on

Right well quick update, because i have had my clifford alarm swopped over from my old broken car i didnt need a full key for a spare just a blade that had been cut so nipped down to timpsons found the same blade and bought it and got it cut for £20

quick question though both new keys that i bought now have a blank transponder in them does anyone know if they can be programmed with vag com etc just incase the original transponder goes

on a side note have also fitted some led side bulbs ( as one was very dull ) and then as the head lights looked abit dim fitted some nice HID's as well :D

[slayer188]

right just a quick one as well does anyone know how to get the sku code using vag com as got the offer of one for use to code a transponder but need to know how to get the code

[Cupra Ross]

right just a quick one as well does anyone know how to get the sku code using vag com as got the offer of one for use to code a transponder but need to know how to get the code

You can't get the code using VAG-COM. Vag-Tacho is the only software that will extract the SKU from the immobiliser.

For clarity:

To code a new flip key to be able to START YOUR CAR, you require ONE of the following:

1. Your car's SKU code (not supplied with the car after about 2002)
2. A VAG-Tacho cable and software to extract the code from your immobiliser.
3. A normal key that works in your car that you don't mind rendering useless by stealing the transponder chip from it to fit in your new key.

If you do not have any of the above, the ONLY way to code a new key to your car is a trip to the dealers. They connect to VAG in germany via their diagnostic computer and do not get to see the SKU code themselves.

[slayer188]

You can't get the code using VAG-COM. Vag-Tacho is the only software that will extract the SKU from the immobiliser.

For clarity:

To code a new flip key to be able to START YOUR CAR, you require ONE of the following:

1. Your car's SKU code (not supplied with the car after about 2002)
2. A VAG-Tacho cable and software to extract the code from your immobiliser.
3. A normal key that works in your car that you don't mind rendering useless by stealing the transponder chip from it to fit in your new key.

If you do not have any of the above, the ONLY way to code a new key to your car is a trip to the dealers. They connect to VAG in germany via their diagnostic computer and do not get to see the SKU code themselves.

right thanks for that looks like a trip to seat then to get the chip sorted

[Andy.Jeffries]

I've just bought my flip remote from eBay so will report back how I get on.

But, My house insurance has agreed to pay for a new key as it was damaged at home so may just go via the dealer for a whole working flip key!

[Andy.Jeffries]

Just found an auto locksmith that will supply a genuine flip key/fob coded and cut for £135 all in, based in Salisbury if anyone is local to there :)

[Lancashire Lad]

Hi all, i got a 2005 leon a few days ago, but the garage only had the key without the flip or any buttons. I hate it and the other doors wont open until i put it in the ignition. They are trying to get in contact with the last owner but i doubt I'll see it. What is the cheapest way to get another key sorted with all the buttons, flip and coded etc? I've lost count of the threads ive read and still feel in the dark :(

[stevie steve]

That key will still have a transponder in as it allows you in the car and to start it up. I presume that a Auto electrician maybe able to help you. These have been mentioned in this thread. Either that or Seat maybe able to help.
Not wanting to worry you, but I hope this person isnt going to turn up one night and just silently (because they have a key) Drive off in your car?!?

[Lancashire Lad]

I'd not thought of that. Thanks :(

[Lancashire Lad]

Well over a week and not one reply in the vag.com section. Must be a way cos I have not got £145 :(

[FrattonEnder]

Been looking at getting a 2 button remote key fob off e-bay so started asking around the local key cutters for quotes. Most wouldn't touch cutting a key off e-bay with a barge pole as they said the steel was too hard and damaged their machines. Timpsons said they would but couldn't guarantee the cut. What's people's experience with Timpsons? The key fob on ebay is £40 and the cutting costs about £10 so don't really want to get it messed it up!

Also am I able to code up the remote locking chip of the new key with out needing to get the blade cut to test it works ok? Just thinking I could re-sell the new remote key fob on e-bay if it doesn't work :)

[IFlip92]

I've only got 1 Key. Is there any way of still getting a flip key to work? If not, how can I make a secondary key in order to eventually get a flip key?

Later Edit: Don't know why I understood that I needed a main key and a spare key besides the flip key? After re-reading the guide I understand what I need to do now...sorry for the stupid question don't even mind me lol. Hopefully I will do this mod next week.

[stevie steve]

I believe you'll have to get an auto electrician to bail you out. Back further in this post, its been mentioned I believe

[dtmwelburn]

Dont mean to make this thread longer than it is lol, but im on the verge of clicking buy it now on a new remote key 2 button, but the part number ends in "N" and i called up seat and gave them my chassis number and they told me the part number they have down for my vehicle is same apart from at the end should be a "K" and i cant find one of these for love nor money :S

any ideas??

[redtill]

Not sure if this has been answered & yes I've trawled through the thread....but is it possible to reprogramme the central locking function on your new remote fob if you only have a std
spare key(doesn't have remote function)Need to know before I pull the trigger.:cheers:

[stevie steve]

Umm ideally you need you two transponders, one of which will be in the spare.

Someone may correct me on this, but I believe you need a auto electrician to get you a new blank transponder that will be allowed to be paired with your car ie When you put one key in the lock and use one in your hand.

[IFlip92]

Oh I understood u only need 1 key for ur car, and then the blank flip key. Cut the flip key at a keycutters in the shape of ur car key, turn ignition on with ur car key, then lock the car mechanically with the new cut flip key and then press the unlock button once and then press it again for 6 seconds till u hear the horn (or flashing lights for some). Then after that u take the transponder out of ur car key and place it into ur flip key. Am I gettin this? Or am I thinkin that I'm gettin it but I'm really not? :/ Need to know as I've got a blank VW key lined up and dont wanna be wastin time and money. Thanks

[dtmwelburn]

Thats how i understood it also mate, ive got an old remote key that dont work remotely, and ive just received my new flip key today, came with a brand new transponder which im putting away in a safe place in case its needed, bargain at £42 just need to find someong to cut me blade, and then ill be transferring my original transponder to the new key
Dan

[redtill]

Umm ideally you need you two transponders, one of which will be in the spare.

Someone may correct me on this, but I believe you need a auto electrician to get you a new blank transponder that will be allowed to be paired with your car ie When you put one key in the lock and use one in your hand.

So just to clear this up......I have 1 key which is a non remote with a transponder already coded to my car.Car starts & works fine.Now can I buy a remote key fob & program the remote locking on it with just the non remote in the ignition.:cheers:

[dtmwelburn]

I think the general concensus is that Yes you can do it that way....... but in an ideal world it would be best to have 2 coded transponders, btw the transponders are cheap as chips less than £5

[stevie steve]

On a side note, dont you need a transponder in the key that goes in the ignition to start the car?

[redtill]

I think the general concensus is that Yes you can do it that way....... but in an ideal world it would be best to have 2 coded transponders, btw the transponders are cheap as chips less than £5

On a side note, dont you need a transponder in the key that goes in the ignition to start the car?

Cheer's lads.Once I have the remote fob I'll get the transponder coded(already have a fresh transponder),key cut & then use the non remote in the ignition & hopefully I'll be able to program the central locking on the remote fob this way :think:

[dtmwelburn]

Reprogram new remote.
Hopefully you will have 2 keys - both with transponders in. I used 2 keys to do this.
1. Switch Ignition ON and leave keyONE in the ignition.
2. Mechanically lock the vehicle using the Drivers door using keyTWO
3. Using the remote control(flip key)
press the UNLOCK button once, and the horn will sound once. (mine didnt)
4. Wait 6 seconds and press the UNLOCK button again to activate the coding procedure
and the horn will sound once.

I followed this and it didnt work, so i went to see a mate and followed AutoData's instructions as follows:
(Please Note Remote Coding Procedure Must be completed within 30 Seconds from switching on ignition)
1) Place original key in ignition and switch ignition on
2) Put New keyFob in Drivers Door Lock
3) Manually Lock Drivers Door and hold for 6 seconds
4) With Unlock Button on keyfob pressed Manually unlock key and lock once more (ensuring button is continually pressed) My Horn sounded at this point
5) Unlock Car manually
6) Remove Key
7) Coding procedure will now be complete
8) Check fob buttons work ie lock and unlock

After Completing this i returned home and transferred the old transponder to my new fob and hey presto all hunky dory, put my blank transponder in old key incase i decide to get it coded in the future.

Im not saying original guide is incorrect, just saying this one worked for me :D Have Fun!

[d_darko]

You simply buy a new transponder from here:

Its the "AKTP2" one at £3 for the Leon.

Assuming you have your cars SKC code, you then get a mate with VAG-COM to sync the new immobiliser transponder with your car using this guide:

If you don't know your SKC, you'll need to get the new key synchronised by a SEAT dealer or if you know anybody with VAG-TACHO (like me :D) they may be able to plug in and find out what the SKC is but this doesn't always work.

hi my friend... i want to change my car's engine ECU. but as you know, when i change it, it does not accept my key(immobilizer blocks). i dont SKC key, so i have bought vag-tacho. but know i dont know how to use it. can you help me and tell me what to do step by step? after doing this, can i still use immobilizer or will it be disabled? Thanks... fatihkurt33@yahoo.com

[JordieNE]

done this last week, cost me about £55 in total.

I had one key, small round 2 button remote fob key. No spare key.

I bought the squarer type, 2 button flip remote key, from a seat altea on ebay for £11 ish
I bought a key blade, cut to a photo of my key from a company i found on ebay also for £10
I bought a virgin / blank ID48 glass type transponder for £5

I put the key together when all the parts arrived. Matched the remote to the central locking by doing the key in door method as described on here.

I paid £30 locally for a guy to program my new key to my car. *found him on gumtree*

£55 ish in total, cheaper than the dealer so im happy. Plus the altea remote works from miles away unlike my old key remote which had to virtually touch the window before it worked.

[platinumatt]

good info ^^

Ive got a brand new Audi flip key from one of my old cars.

Need to look into getting it sorted... the key is cut so would need a new blade ... will have to read this thread and see how the hell I do it!

[H & H 2.3]

done this last week, cost me about £55 in total.

I had one key, small round 2 button remote fob key. No spare key.

I bought the squarer type, 2 button flip remote key, from a seat altea on ebay for £11 ish
I bought a key blade, cut to a photo of my key from a company i found on ebay also for £10
I bought a virgin / blank ID48 glass type transponder for £5

I put the key together when all the parts arrived. Matched the remote to the central locking by doing the key in door method as described on here.

I paid £30 locally for a guy to program my new key to my car. *found him on gumtree*

£55 ish in total, cheaper than the dealer so im happy. Plus the altea remote works from miles away unlike my old key remote which had to virtually touch the window before it worked.

Hi, are you in the North East by any chance? If you are could you send me details of the guy that programmed your key please, cheers.
Barry

[H & H 2.3]

Been looking at getting a 2 button remote key fob off e-bay so started asking around the local key cutters for quotes. Most wouldn't touch cutting a key off e-bay with a barge pole as they said the steel was too hard and damaged their machines. Timpsons said they would but couldn't guarantee the cut. What's people's experience with Timpsons? The key fob on ebay is £40 and the cutting costs about £10 so don't really want to get it messed it up!

Also am I able to code up the remote locking chip of the new key with out needing to get the blade cut to test it works ok? Just thinking I could re-sell the new remote key fob on e-bay if it doesn't work :)

I have recently spoken to Timpsons to get a price on cutting a key off ebay and they told me they wouldn't do it as it is against company policy - they can't guarantee the key after cutting it as they haven't supplied the key. They said they would only do it if they supplied the key/fob which would cost £100 plus, this includes programming

[JordieNE]

yes in north east. used this kid on gumtree called mick. he was ok to be honest, didnt really seem to be confident what he was doing. had several machines to extract the code.....he ended up using the same machine i had bought from ebay (super vag k+can).

When i did it myself, i got the "dashboard pin" using super vag k+can. Due to the shitty support and no manual with the device, i didnt know if this code was correct or not. I then found out that the device is crap at programming keys, so returned it to the ebay seller.

Anyway back onto mick.....he eventually got the code and after afew attempts i had two keys programmed and working. He made several phone calls to someone who gave him advice on the machine he was using.

mick on 07900875638 hes in sunniside, gateshead (top of lobley hill, towards burnopfield, stanley etc)

if your newcastle way, try a google search for newcastlediagnostics - i think this is the bloke that mick was talking too on the phone, newcastlediagnostics sell the devices to read/program keys. Would be more confident using this bloke.....

Mick charged me £30.

[JordieNE]

reference the timpsons key cutting for a tenner, i used a company on ebay which cut my key to a photograph and delivered it to me for £10.....why use timpsons?

140603384170 ebay item for seat flip key blade including cutting. £9.99 + 1.50 post

seller is called keysinthepost

[stevie steve]

reference the timpsons key cutting for a tenner, i used a company on ebay which cut my key to a photograph and delivered it to me for £10.....why use timpsons?

140603384170 ebay item for seat flip key blade including cutting. £9.99 + 1.50 post

seller is called keysinthepost

Probably who I used. Timpsons key was cut so bad, it didn't go in the lock first time. A bloke does it over the web from a jpeg and it was a perfect fit

[H & H 2.3]

reference the timpsons key cutting for a tenner, i used a company on ebay which cut my key to a photograph and delivered it to me for £10.....why use timpsons?

140603384170 ebay item for seat flip key blade including cutting. £9.99 + 1.50 post

seller is called keysinthepost

Excellent, cheers mate - he also does them for my Fireblade which is just about to snap :)

[H & H 2.3]

Help!!!!!!
Bought everything I needed - new 2 button fob, got key cut and bought transponder.
I know I have to get the transponder coded but I cannot sync my new remote to the central locking.
I've tried every method I could find but it just isn't working.
I originally had a fixed blade 2 button key and have gone for a 2 button flip key. The main part of the key bought was this one - 170692248129 on eBay.
Can anyone tell me if this should be the right fob?
The key has been cut fine and starts the car with my original transponder in it but just refuses to sync with the central locking

My car is a 2003 Toledo 1.8T

[H & H 2.3]

Key sorted and now works the central locking - just need the transponder coded now

[bathie92]

I dont have my SKC and have bought a second hand key . Can i take the old transponder out of the old key and swap it without having to code anything?

[dtmwelburn]

Yes mate you can use your old transponder chip from your old key just ensure your blade is cut correctly, although you may still have to code it for central locking which if you look through this thread i posted the AUTODATA official method for doing so,

Dan

[ladybird]

I am sooo confused ! LOL !! I have only had my new car for 6days. I have just one 2button key for my 2000 leon. I got some new batteries put in as i thought this was why the remote didnt work, but the remote still doesnt work. Now this is the 1st time i have ever had a key with any functions etc. as my last car was 20yrs old,just a plain old key !
Can someone just give me a dumb arse step by step to what i need to do, thats if your not too bored with this subject yet:think::think:

[Snoopcousins]

Can someone please confirm for me....

Does the flip keys work on an 05 Mk1 Leon FR?

I have 2 normal 2-button remote keys....
Can I just take the transponder out of one and put it into a 3-button flip-key?
Then do I just get the key cut and that's it ready to go? Or do I need to program the remote?

Cheers

[H & H 2.3]

Can someone please confirm for me....

Does the flip keys work on an 05 Mk1 Leon FR?

I have 2 normal 2-button remote keys....
Can I just take the transponder out of one and put it into a 3-button flip-key?
Then do I just get the key cut and that's it ready to go? Or do I need to program the remote?

Cheers

That's what i've done and it works fine putting the transponder into my new 2 button flip key but yes, you'll have to pair the new key to operate the central locking - i done the original key in the ignition and the new key in the door lock method and it works fine.

[H & H 2.3]

i have recently bought a cable for vagcom and have the full VCDS programme and i'm wanting to code a new transponder in my new key - does anyone know how to do this please?

[cupraJD]

very good guide, gonna go change the battery now

[karaman]

hello guys!
i have recently bought three button flip key fob on ebay,the code is 1J0 959 753 DA.
i have two original seat keys but one of them hasn't got the transponder cuz i broke it.
my question is,can i configure/program the 3 key fob with just one seat original key?
i tried all guides but had no success.
the new fob hasn't got the transponder in it.
my car is seat leon 1m fr 1.9 tdi of 2005.
many thankx for replying.

[karaman]

hello guys!
i have recently bought three button flip key fob on ebay,the code is 1J0 959 753 DA.
i have two original seat keys but one of them hasn't got the transponder cuz i broke it.
my question is,can i configure/program the 3 key fob with just one seat original key?
i tried all guides but had no success.
the new fob hasn't got the transponder in it.
my car is seat leon 1m fr 1.9 tdi of 2005.
many thankx for replying.

help please:confused:

[mikemk4gti]

Theres 2 parts to program, the remote and then the transponder (for the immobiliser).
You can do the remote by following the guide on this thread but you'll need someone with the relevant software to do the immobiliser part. HTH.
Mike.

[karaman]

yes,i know that but i was interested to know that can the remote be programmed with only one original working key?
i've two original keys but only one is working and that is that one with the original remote,the other one without remote has the broken transponder..
so,can i program the flip key remote with just one working original key?

to program the new transponder i need the skc code and to write it i need vag com,hope i'm right.

[mikemk4gti]

Put your original in the ignition then the new one in the drivers door lock and follow the guide, as long as the new one can turn the door lock it will work.

[karaman]

thankyou..
can you repeat me the procedure please?
i would like to ask you that if the flip 3 buttons remote i'm trying to program was programmed with some other car,can i still reprogram it?
the flip 3 buttons new key can lock the door but the remote dont lock/unlock them and there is not any transponder in it..i still have to code the transponder

[mikemk4gti]

1. Switch Ignition ON and leave the key in the ignition.

2. Mechanically lock the vehicle using the Drivers door using the new
key.

3. Using the remote control press the Unlock button once, and the horn
will sound once.

4. Wait 6 seconds and press the unlock button once to activate the coding
procedure. The remote control will now be programmed.

NOTE : When performing programming on additional remotes the procedure
is the same, except you press the unlock button 2, 3 or 4 times for the
different remote.

For example : If programming 2 remotes press the unlock button twice with
a 1 second interval between each press, repeat for 3 and 4 remotes.

5. Switch Ignition OFF.

6. Remove key from ignition and check for operation.

7. The coding procedure can be repeated up to 4 times for additional remotes.

8. The ignition must be switched OFF between programming each remote

[karaman]

thankx a lot for replying but it didn't work.
however,i've managed it using vds pro

[mikemk4gti]

Great stuff!

[karaman]

now i need to code the key using some functioning cable/software.
would you suggest vag tacho or vag k+can commander?

[mikemk4gti]

Normally I would say use Vag Tacho, But I have it and it wouldn't work on mine (same as yours I think) although it works fine on all mk4 golfs, Others have reported that it worked fine on an 05 FR?. I had to use Vag K+Can commander.

[karaman]

yep,mine is seat leon fr of 2005 and its a tdi.
so,were you able to find the right skc code?

[mikemk4gti]

I think so, still waiting for my key to arrive in the post to try it.

[karaman]

ok,any idea when are you going to recieve the key?

[mikemk4gti]

Well I brought it on tuesday and it was meant to be first class recorded post so should of been here by now!

[karaman]

have you got this cable?
http://www.ebay.it/itm/160608027602?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_4357wt_954

[mikemk4gti]

Same thing but looks different.

[mikemk4gti]

Might be worth seeing if anyone has it local to you, you'll only need it once.
Check this to see if there's anyone local,
http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=262363
Might also be worth checking ukmkiv's

[karaman]

i've contacted the seller,hope he replies

[karaman]

the seller said

"Hi,

This one can work with your car. But I'm not sure if it can read SKC for your car. It can read SKC if your car use CAN BUS protocol. ".


so,mate,what do you think,can i buy it?does our car use the can bus protocol?

[motty225]

right had a read threw it all and still not 100% sure lol, my problem is i lost my 2button flip key while out one night, so all i have now is the key with no buttons on (service key?) so ive brought a new 2button flip key off ebay with a blank blade which im going to get cut tomorrow, can i do the trick of putting one in the door lock and one in the igniton to code the new one or will this not work? because 99% of the people in this thread are just upgrading from a normal 2button key to a 2button flip key, cheers for any help

[mikemk4gti]

that will work for the remote, but it wont start the car. you'll need it programming by a main dealer or someone on here with the software.

[karaman]

did you recieve your key?????

[motty225]

that will work for the remote, but it wont start the car. you'll need it programming by a main dealer or someone on here with the software.

cheers pal

[mikemk4gti]

did you recieve your key?????

No, got the recorded delivery number which says it was posted on 23 nov. checked it and it says it's currently being proccessed or something like that, looks like its lost :(

[MarkWales]

I need to find some one local other than main dealer who can code a key to my car I have the key its cut and controls remote locking just need coded to the immobiliser. Need to get the SKC!

[motty225]

1. Switch Ignition ON and leave the key in the ignition.

2. Mechanically lock the vehicle using the Drivers door using the new
key.

3. Using the remote control press the Unlock button once, and the horn
will sound once.

4. Wait 6 seconds and press the unlock button once to activate the coding
procedure. The remote control will now be programmed.

NOTE : When performing programming on additional remotes the procedure
is the same, except you press the unlock button 2, 3 or 4 times for the
different remote.

For example : If programming 2 remotes press the unlock button twice with
a 1 second interval between each press, repeat for 3 and 4 remotes.

5. Switch Ignition OFF.

6. Remove key from ignition and check for operation.

7. The coding procedure can be repeated up to 4 times for additional remotes.

8. The ignition must be switched OFF between programming each remote

just been and got my new key cut, tryed the above guide, i put the "service key" in the ignition and turned it on and put my new flip key in the door, locked it maunally, pressed unluck it beeped once, wouldnt say it was the horn tho, and then waited the 6 seconds, when i pressed it again there was no noise and the buttons are still not working? any ides? cheers

[mikemk4gti]

I took this guide from another website, maybe worth a search in the net to see if there's any more.

[mikemk4gti]

Just found this, might be of some use:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83Co22N70Gw

[MarkWales]

good video guide there

[motty225]

video worked perfect for me

[mikemk4gti]

Finally got a key, won on ebay for £9 on thursday and arrived this morning.
followed the guide and got the remote working easily enough (although I did set the alarm off)
part no. HLO 1K0 959 753 G, its 3 button but the boot doesnt do anything (yet!)
I went and got a new blade and had it cut for £5 but it needs a bit more trimming so i'll have to take it back on monday.
I tried to program the transponder but it won't let me, I deleted the old keys and rematched them ok so I know the SKC is correct so I'm guessing I need a new transponder but not sure which type? some say AKTP2 others say ID48 can anyone confirm the correct one?

[mikemk4gti]

In fact sack that, just ripped my spare non remote key apart and got the transponder out of that, no need for 3 keys.

[cooky25]

Hi guys, wondered if you could help me.

Basically with my car i have the normal key (not the remote locking key) and a remote locking key.

The remote locking key unlocks tha car as it should, however does not start the car, the warning light on the dash comes up.

i tried the method above by putting my normal key (not the remote locking key) in the ignition and locking the car manually etc with the remote locking key. However it didnt make a beep or anything and didnt work.

Does it have to be done with 2 remote locking fobs? Or can i use my normal key?

Cheers

[mikemk4gti]

If it wont start off the key then its not the remote its the transponder chip that need programming. This can only be doen using the correct equiment not the key in the door method.