View Full Version : REVO- Insurance and warrenty.
yellkell
06-08-2003, 20:46
I'm sure this has been talked about many times but I want to get to the bottom of it once and for all.
Revo is great fun BUT I would like to know if anyone has had a warrenty or insurance claim rejected on the basis of Revo been installed.
Sorry to be boring but I just need to know.
kinghorna
06-08-2003, 21:28
if you are on about the Seat Free insurance they don't want to know, I called them and they said that they couldn't cover me if i had it done
Well as far as i know nobody here has ever had a warranty claim turned down so long as the dealer hasn't been told about the Revo. Then again as far as i can remember there hasn't been a warranty claim realated to the engine that could ahve been caused by revo on these forums at all.
As for insurance, again nobody has yet been turned down here.
Of course these things could happen, but the chances of them happening are tiny, most warranty claims are down to Spanish build quality, nothing to do with the German engines and insurance assesors will not want to poke around the ECU unless your engine blew up, again, nothing like that has ever happened here.
Dave T-S
07-08-2003, 09:12
If you don't notify the remap to your insurer at the time of doing it it's effectively fraud ("all material facts should be notified to insurers" as per the proposal form you signed when you took the insurance out), so of course that isn't an issue, is it?, as if you HAVE declared it they can't refuse to pay a claim because it is fitted ;)
scullers
07-08-2003, 10:10
If or when I get it done I will be declaring it- better to be safe than sorry as far as I'm concerned.
I know the "hidden" aspect to Revo is tempting but you just can't be too careful when it comes to insurance. Of course it is a personal decision, this is just my opinion. Insurance seems expensive- until you have a problem.
I wouldn't worry about the warranty too much, as others have said already, there are very very few, or no, recorded probs from anyone on here.
Cheers.
Well ask Deejay - he's Revo'd and had no end of problems with warranty claims with his dealer - don't know if any/many of these are Revo related or not but by the nature of his recent posts it sounds like it.
Shock_Xe
07-08-2003, 10:58
Mine was APR'd when the clutch went! Put it back to stock mode and they were none the wiser. didnt even notice the cruise control! and noting was mentioned about the induction/forge. thought they would have tried ti windle out of it
mark sheerin
07-08-2003, 11:28
None of those worries...
I informed my insurance and my car runs out of its 3 year warranty before the next service...
not worried about engine, gearbox , or clutch as my revo has 210 bhp ish and the same engine gearbox and clutch are used without complaint and under warranty in the 225bhp TT and new Cupra...
don't expect any mechanical probs anyway.....
don't drive flat out everywhere due to traffic anyway..
yellkell
10-08-2003, 09:12
Well thank you for you're input.
I have had Revo installed and am told I have 220 bph plus another ten for using Optimax (sps3)
I think RSD (Oettinger chip) will pay for warranty repairs if Seat refuse to due to the chip.
Also though normally undectable, remember the chip contents will actually be different so if insurance companies ever become real enthusiastic they can find out. (pull the chip out, plug it into a reader, verify contents match factory spec).
Of course, if the chip was really really sneaky it could detect airbags going off, and re-flash the default code.
Andy
Slime101
13-08-2003, 18:53
Originally posted by Nemesis
Of course, if the chip was really really sneaky it could detect airbags going off, and re-flash the default code.
Andy
Now that sounds like a very very good idea :)
http://www.audi-sport.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=CarChat&Number=31119&Forum=All_Forums&Words=&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Searchpage=0&Limit=100&Old=1day&Main=20112&Search=true#Post31119
Interesting read, Page 4 they have a Seat ECU dump with the words "Revo..." in there. So, be careful out there!
Neanderthal
15-08-2003, 12:33
Blimey! that has me worried! :o :o
One of the REVO peeps care to comment?
can't see where it is in the code.... and AFAIK you'd have to take the EEPROM off the ECU... something I know that you can't do at your SEAT Dealer
also
is it, or is it not, in 'Wandos' interest to credit, or discredit Revo.
All open ended questions to avoid flaiming.
Originally posted by m0rk
can't see where it is in the code.... and AFAIK you'd have to take the EEPROM off the ECU... something I know that you can't do at your SEAT Dealer
also
is it, or is it not, in 'Wandos' interest to credit, or discredit Revo.
All open ended questions to avoid flaiming.
It does say in his profile that he works for AmD (what is an AmD employee doing taking dumps off of Revo'd LCRs I wonder?)
Also, if you read all the posts, they are saying that this is only with the Trial program, not the full blown program.
ibizacupra
15-08-2003, 13:44
Originally posted by Nemesis
I think RSD (Oettinger chip) will pay for warranty repairs if Seat refuse to due to the chip.
Andy
Not in my experience they did'nt.
Maybe different now tho...
Bill
ibizacupra
15-08-2003, 13:56
Originally posted by Feel
It does say in his profile that he works for AmD (what is an AmD employee doing taking dumps off of Revo'd LCRs I wonder?)
Also, if you read all the posts, they are saying that this is only with the Trial program, not the full blown program.
AmD employee checking other tuners code eh? :p
Trying to learn something maybe? :laff:
Nothing to learn from Trial...but they can add 2 and 2 and come up with 5. :p
Nothing to learn from full code tho even tho they think they can. REVO are smart enough to make copying it nigh on impossible.
You have to ask why a tuning company considers why it needs to try and diss the competition on public forums.
Bill
ibizacupra
15-08-2003, 14:05
Originally posted by DaveP
http://www.audi-sport.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=CarChat&Number=31119&Forum=All_Forums&Words=&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Searchpage=0&Limit=100&Old=1day&Main=20112&Search=true#Post31119
Interesting read, Page 4 they have a Seat ECU dump with the words "Revo..." in there. So, be careful out there!
Careful my arse! :p ;)
Consider this tho....
How did they get this code..
Opened ECU
desoldered chip.
read chip in EPROM programmer
opened Hex in an application
compared hex with known stock hex (got from somewhere)
How many dealers do you ever think would do this? NONE!
Specialist kit Req'd
Consider this...
AmD (for example) and others have to fit a chip to reprogram the ecu. that entails...........
Opened ECU (break seals)
desoldered chip.
solder in socket
Plug in emulator (assuming they actually MAP a car and not install a generic program & call it mapping!)
program and map using their propriatry software with the emulator on the dyno.
Blow code to eprom.
plug it in.
reseal ecu
reinstall.
Jobs a Goodun.
:)
Bill
of course i'm sure they're trained in soldering & flux removal is done to prevent the device corroding & causing premature ECU failure.
i wonder if the chip is comerical or industrial that they use as well
Originally posted by edc
Well ask Deejay - he's Revo'd and had no end of problems with warranty claims with his dealer - don't know if any/many of these are Revo related or not but by the nature of his recent posts it sounds like it.
Either ive read your post incorrectly or something-but please do me a favour and don't try and diminish a good relationship I have with the crew at REVO due to you misreading some of my posts.
For the record:I have had a "few" probs with my car,all un revo related and these were due to pedro obviously being p155ed up when he put my car together.
car is fixed-Im happy again-end of!
(btw-I understand its quite easy to misinterprit statements on a public forum)
Originally posted by Deejay
Either ive read your post incorrectly or something-but please do me a favour and don't try and diminish a good relationship I have with the crew at REVO due to you misreading some of my posts.
For the record:I have had a "few" probs with my car,all un revo related and these were due to pedro obviously being p155ed up when he put my car together.
car is fixed-Im happy again-end of!
(btw-I understand its quite easy to misinterprit statements on a public forum)
You got me wrong Danny. What I meant to imply was that yes you have Revo and yes you've seemed to have some issues with your SEAT dealer. Some of your previous posts were a bit hush hush and I probably misread them. I might have this wrong as well but did they take your switch to check it out and then try and wriggle out of your warranty claims?