View Full Version : Throttle Bodies - 170-180bhp??
Mark@VAGWORX
14-08-2003, 12:53
Just wondering, what sort of power figure are you likely to see from a Cupra 2.0 16v running throttle bodies??
Between 170&180bhp i would imagine, but please set me straight.
Poss thinking about getting a Mk2 Beeza 2.0 16v, and turning it into a rally-slag rep.
Comments please.
Thanks
not including head, cams?
I know it's been discussed before lots
If i were you i'd do the head cams etc, run std induction & get that chipped, else you'll pour money at ECU's mapping & wiring looms
Mark
Look at Bill's example on his website. Spec higher than you state but a fair bit more power too (and money).
ibizacupra
14-08-2003, 13:22
Originally posted by Marky
Just wondering, what sort of power figure are you likely to see from a Cupra 2.0 16v running throttle bodies??
Between 170&180bhp i would imagine, but please set me straight.
Poss thinking about getting a Mk2 Beeza 2.0 16v, and turning it into a rally-slag rep.
Comments please.
Thanks
RobT is a good example on what you get power per mod wise.
His motor is 2ltr (9A) BRM built (pukka) motor. Running Lumentiion mappable ecu, gas flowed head and 276 schrick cams. Mapped up running on the ABF type injection system it made ~180bhp.
Rob changed to Badger5 Direct to Head throttle bodies, installed them, remapped his engine and got 217bhp.
My own Jetta runs milder cams than Rob's, but iotherwise is pretty similar spec, and gets around the 200bhp level depending on RR and conditions. (recently did 190bhp @ Stealth on CGTi 16v shootout - most powerful n/a 16v on the day I might add :p)
Don;t bother with t'bodies until you have at least sorted the engine out mechanically and run a gas flowed head and cams.. T'bodies on an otherwise stock engine will be dissapointing I think.
I have some info I can email you and you can browse my Badger5 website for info.
regards
Bill
Bill, I'd like to read your info if it's an additional lot to what's on your website:) edc@seatcupra.net
:cheers:
Mark@VAGWORX
14-08-2003, 13:34
Thanks guys.
Bill, would like to see the additional info please. Already looked at your site. markminter@btconnect.com
What sort of money are you talking for DTH kit all in??
What can you expect to pay, roughly, for head work and cams??
Regards
Mark
good flowed head and cams would be around the 800-1000 mark,iirc:cheers:
ibizacupra
14-08-2003, 15:27
Originally posted by Marky
Thanks guys.
Bill, would like to see the additional info please. Already looked at your site. markminter@btconnect.com
What sort of money are you talking for DTH kit all in??
What can you expect to pay, roughly, for head work and cams??
Regards
Mark
Some general info here>> http://www.badger5.demon.co.uk/bin/promo-2.pdf
Full kit* Prices here>> http://www.badger5.demon.co.uk/bin/Badger5-DTH16v-kit-2002-prices-V2.pdf
*subject to change and specification per applications
Head work £400-£600
Cams from £320 to £500 dependign on make.
regards
bill
Mark@VAGWORX
14-08-2003, 16:13
Cheers Bill.
Pricey per bhp then, thought it would be. Thanks for the info, it gives me something to go on.
:cheers:
Mark
would a set of throttle bodies be as good on a 2lt 8v
not too good on the 8vas it has the inlet on the back of the engine
unless you get the head off a new beetle,called cross flow,i do remember some threads about this some time back:cheers:
ibizacupra
14-08-2003, 19:28
Originally posted by gav_1
would a set of throttle bodies be as good on a 2lt 8v
They can work well and I have some running on race cars in Taiwan.. They do need cold air feed and other engine mods to justify their use.
Not suitable on an otherwise std engine.
regards
bill