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INA

20-05-2009, 22:13

how much are the turbo jackets for a gt30
The GT30R Turbo jackets are 211.20 USD shipped to the UK.

is this is to fit the.....Leon? what turbo is that....what else will be included in the kit? Price?
This will fit both the Loen & the Ibiza.
Thats a forced performance HTA GT3076R.The whole package with the FP turbo I am going to retail for roughlly $3500 USD.
That includes:
* Tubular manifold
* downpipe
* Turbo lines
* Turbocharger
* other install accessories

jamiebennett81

20-05-2009, 22:15

The GT30R Turbo jackets are 211.20 USD shipped to the UK.

This will fit both the Loen & the Ibiza.
Thats a forced performance HTA GT3076R.The whole package with the FP turbo I am going to retail for roughlly $3500 USD.
That includes:
* Tubular manifold
* downpipe
* Turbo lines
* Turbocharger
* other install accessories

seems a pretty good price there

I look forward to seeing the whole kit together:)

is this internally, or externally gated?

INA

20-05-2009, 22:26

seems a pretty good price there

I look forward to seeing the whole kit together:)

is this internally, or externally gated?
Can be both.We will have downpipes that will be pretty much universal.

ibizacupra

21-05-2009, 09:03

keep me informed Sam.. I am watching this one. looking good so far.
Pm me when you have more info/pictures/spec etc

caney

21-05-2009, 09:31

are these jackets easy to fit in situ? mines a topmount.

INA

21-05-2009, 16:32

are these jackets easy to fit in situ? mines a topmount.
Pretty easy
which top mount you have? The one from Backdraft?

brandon888

26-05-2009, 19:14

that look very nice ...

pj1985

26-05-2009, 20:58

The GT30R Turbo jackets are 211.20 USD shipped to the UK.

This will fit both the Loen & the Ibiza.
Thats a forced performance HTA GT3076R.The whole package with the FP turbo I am going to retail for roughlly $3500 USD.
That includes:
* Tubular manifold
* downpipe
* Turbo lines
* Turbocharger
* other install accessories

What are you calling 'other install accessories'? Just gaskets and bolts etc or any other major parts?

Is that $3500 a to your door shipped and taxes included etc or these on top?

Cupra_R04

27-05-2009, 10:08

Watching with anticipation :p Also what would this be capable of with a Sem manifold power wise.

Thanks in advance Mark

jamiebennett81

27-05-2009, 11:19

Watching with anticipation :p Also what would this be capable of with a Sem manifold power wise.

Thanks in advance Mark

if it is anything like what APR quote on their manifold, it is apparently good for around a 30bhp increase on BT kits.

Cupra_R04

27-05-2009, 17:30

cool whats the expected output of the turbo application though? :think:

jamiebennett81

27-05-2009, 17:39

cool whats the expected output of the turbo application though? :think:

I think from previous discussions, Sammy mentioned it was a GT30.....therefore 400bhp+ with the supporting modifications of course

INA

27-05-2009, 19:57

What are you calling 'other install accessories'? Just gaskets and bolts etc or any other major parts?

Is that $3500 a to your door shipped and taxes included etc or these on top?
Shipping would not be included in that price but the other accessories will be the gaskets and such yes.
I think from previous discussions, Sammy mentioned it was a GT30.....therefore 400bhp+ with the supporting modifications of course
Yup spot on!
With a GT3071R expect power to be in the 450bhp range.

Also what would this be capable of with a Sem manifold power wise.
With the SEM manifold we are seeing constant gains of 25+WHEEL HP gain on anything larger than a GT2871R.
Cant go wrong with those figures.

jamiebennett81

27-05-2009, 19:59

what housing is on that turbo Sammy, 64 or 86?

pj1985

27-05-2009, 23:00

So how much would delivery and taxes be on top of the kti price? Is the $3500 price for GT2x based turbos such as GT28, GT2871 or is that for the GT30?

INA

28-05-2009, 17:22

what housing is on that turbo Sammy, 64 or 86?
Thats a 0.63 A/R on the turbine housing.I am not a fan of small A/R's on turbine housings....you are basically sticking a finger in your nose while trying to sneeze.

So how much would delivery and taxes be on top of the kti price? Is the $3500 price for GT2x based turbos such as GT28, GT2871 or is that for the GT30?
Final pricing will be determined once the kits are closer to completion.

TriniVdub

06-06-2009, 00:01

Hey Issam, so any eta's on this kit? urgh i only now find out about this after i went and installed a 28rs eliminator :censored:

TriniVdub

06-06-2009, 00:03

Hey Issam, so any eta's on this kit? urgh i only now find out about this after i went and installed a 28rs eliminator :censored:

INA

06-06-2009, 15:43

Hey Issam, so any eta's on this kit? urgh i only now find out about this after i went and installed a 28rs eliminator :censored:
Trinidad?:D
You dont have a Seat....:p

ETA is trying to get them released for WF09 and then off to customers who have paid the downpayments.

TriniVdub

08-06-2009, 00:14

INA

08-06-2009, 19:23

Lol yea i know, but i got a RHD MK4 GTI so i figured if it could fit a rhd seat 1.8t it should be able to fit on a GTI too lol, plus this is where i got my info when i was doing my eliminator install

www .seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=128391

courtesy of DPJ
I visit Trinidad twice/year
I am sure we can meet up.It will fit the RHD golf fine as the Leon has the same size engine bay.
hit me up via msn or email and ill sort you out.

TriniVdub

08-06-2009, 20:25

email sent :funk:

INA

26-06-2009, 09:43

email sent :funk:
Replied,

Well guys after close to 3 months of investigating this with DHL,Canadapost and USPS I have finally been given the results as to what packages left the UK intransit to me.
The list was about 20 packages (rob's 80mm tb,the original 70mm and carl's 70mm amongst others)
Sadly H00CH never shipped the intake pipe I paid for regardless of what facts remain....

All I can say is wow and hope that someone on here will be nice enough to indeed send one over for me.

jamiebennett81

26-06-2009, 14:43

Replied,

Well guys after close to 3 months of investigating this with DHL,Canadapost and USPS I have finally been given the results as to what packages left the UK intransit to me.
The list was about 20 packages (rob's 80mm tb,the original 70mm and carl's 70mm amongst others)
Sadly H00CH never shipped the intake pipe I paid for regardless of what facts remain....

All I can say is wow and hope that someone on here will be nice enough to indeed send one over for me.

why don't you speak with Bill @ badger5...he must have a stock of these lying about from BT conversions etc on Ibizas....

INA

29-06-2009, 04:30

I will email Bill in the AM.

ibizacupra

06-07-2009, 08:23

which pipe are you after?
you just need to accomodate the rear engine mount like on mk3/2 golfs. the turbo outlet position is the same as it is for mk4 golfs turbo outlet wise.. its the rear engine mount which needs to be overcome.

INA

08-07-2009, 17:09

ibizacupra

08-07-2009, 17:23

Check your email mate.

which pipe are you actually after? as I posted a couple up... the outlet from turbo is same location as golf. ibiza pipe is bespoke to only ibiza ands its crappy smic, which should'nt be used with BT anyhows

INA

25-07-2009, 22:26

I actually need quite a few parts Bill,
if you got anything kicking around it would really help.

Also I just thought I would fill everyone in that we did end up making the investment into a cast manifold
will have images very shortly but I think alot of people are going to like the RHD offerings from US shortly.

Cupra_R04

19-08-2009, 17:19

Any update on these kits at all Issam?
Dates they will be ready and also cost's and also could this be done with a Garrett 35R?

Thanks in advance Mark

INA

20-08-2009, 02:03

Any update on these kits at all Issam?
Dates they will be ready and also cost's and also could this be done with a Garrett 35R?

Thanks in advance Mark
Working on finishing it up now.
No dates other than to tell guys to hold onto there cash:lol:

PhilW

20-08-2009, 09:16

Any teaser pics?

Cupra_R04

20-08-2009, 15:59

come on we want turbo ****

Cupra_R04

01-09-2009, 22:49

Hey issam sorry to keep pestering, anymore info on this kit yet. Still highly interested in one.

Mark

PhilW

10-09-2009, 09:54

Any more info on this? :p

INA

10-09-2009, 18:31

Any more info on this? :p

See other thread for now;)

PhilW

13-09-2009, 23:46

What other thread?

INA

14-09-2009, 09:08

http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=235221

RobDon

14-09-2009, 09:21

That thread is only relevant to LCR K04-023 cars.

INA

14-09-2009, 14:57

That thread is only relevant to LCR K04-023 cars.
No no Robby boy
You think I invested in a cast manifold for 1 application? You must think I am mad son!
This manifold is my gift to RHD 1.8T users around the globe.

RobDon

14-09-2009, 15:03

I did wonder!!! So this new manifold will fit all RHD 1.8T's. You do know the turbo on the 180 sits in a different position from the 210/225 yeah, different downpipe etc.??

INA

14-09-2009, 15:13

I did wonder!!! So this new manifold will fit all RHD 1.8T's. You do know the turbo on the 180 sits in a different position from the 210/225 yeah, different downpipe etc.??
The turbo in the 180 will work with the current high flow K03 manifold.

Basically the plan is to build downpipes for BOTH 150/180 hp users and then 210/225/245 users.
Thats why I am trying to get a MKIII Ibiza downpipe up here so I can make one.

Dont worry....a years worth of planning went into this ....look how old the last thread is.:lol:

wild willy

14-09-2009, 15:30

Sounds great Issam, how long until pictures of the manifold will be released..

INA

14-09-2009, 15:40

Sounds great Issam, how long until pictures of the manifold will be released..
I am contemplating releasing teasers or a full out install and dyno on the 337 I picked up.

ibizacupra

14-09-2009, 15:41

mk3 ibiza downpipe/cat - I have one here (std)

INA

14-09-2009, 15:43

pics to email William :D

ibizacupra

14-09-2009, 15:46

will snap some tonight when @ workshop

wild willy

14-09-2009, 15:49

Will you be offering ceramic coating as a finishing option out of curiosity.

INA

14-09-2009, 16:12

Will you be offering ceramic coating as a finishing option out of curiosity.
I could...definitely something that is possible.

RobDon

14-09-2009, 16:38

I am contemplating releasing teasers or a full out install and dyno on the 337 I picked up.

Teaser pics will keep folks interested until the full release! :D

INA

14-09-2009, 16:44

You are always going to go for it no matter what Rob so I am not worried about you.
You have EVERY SINGLE PART I have ever released on SCN.

Danny@INA

14-09-2009, 21:25

You are always going to go for it no matter what Rob so I am not worried about you.
You have EVERY SINGLE PART I have ever released on SCN.

When someone has everthing you have released you know you are doing something right

INA

14-09-2009, 21:52

Well you dont count...you have every single part I have ever released PERIOD
LOL

Danny@INA

14-09-2009, 22:30

LOL
Well you know I like to build fast Cars:p

ibizacupra

14-09-2009, 22:52

When someone has everthing you have released you know you are doing something right

who are you Danny?

Danny@INA

14-09-2009, 23:32

who are you Danny?

I'm danny lol
I help out issam with things over here

INA

14-09-2009, 23:42

who are you Danny?
Sometimes he does not even know...poor lad

Danny@INA

14-09-2009, 23:48

Sometimes he does not even know...poor lad

LOL:redface:

INA

20-01-2010, 19:43

Just to update this.
The largest turbocharger we can fit on this kit is a 3076R.
Allthough I have a very good feeling most people will be going for the 2868 kits.:clap:

Cupra_R04

20-01-2010, 19:46

so have you's carried out any test's yet and will these set's fit into a lcr (straight fit)

Thanks in advance

Mark

RobDon

20-01-2010, 20:16

2868 - Garrett turbo?

westallc

20-01-2010, 20:58

no there not but very sinilar i think

INA

21-01-2010, 00:34

2868 - Garrett turbo?
HTA...its a secret weapon;)

so have you's carried out any test's yet and will these set's fit into a lcr (straight fit)

Thanks in advance

Mark
That is what has taken so long.Gathering up all the parts and mass producing them so that the end user has a solution that he is happy with.
We will be testing this kit against a K04-023 turbocharger.Should be fun.

jamiebennett81

21-01-2010, 00:39

HTA...its a secret weapon;)

That is what has taken so long.Gathering up all the parts and mass producing them so that the end user has a solution that he is happy with.
We will be testing this kit against a K04-023 turbocharger.Should be fun.

when you say testing against the K04, do you mean in terms of fitment or power?

INA

21-01-2010, 09:15

when you say testing against the K04, do you mean in terms of fitment or power?
Both.
Unlike North America, guys in Europe, South America and the far east use the K04's as a benchmark to base performance figures off of.Only recently I have seen the crowd move towards Garrett turbochargers.Before it was IHI this Mitsubishi that....
Now UK & Caribbean users are tilting towards Owen Developments for there offerings as well as Garrett and soon to be HTA products.I would have to say that 99.99% of you in here have NO intention of making over 300whp so alot of the offerings we will have available will make this perfectly viable for you.

The reason for using the K04-023 is that most people on SCN can relate to it as well as the K04-001 etc.The only issue we are having is offering a software solution.

I have contacted a few popular software companies but I have not heard back as yet. If any of them are reading this and want to be part of this project please do not hesitate to contact me.

jamiebennett81

21-01-2010, 09:36

Both.
Unlike North America, guys in Europe, South America and the far east use the K04's as a benchmark to base performance figures off of.Only recently I have seen the crowd move towards Garrett turbochargers.Before it was IHI this Mitsubishi that....
Now UK & Caribbean users are tilting towards Owen Developments for there offerings as well as Garrett and soon to be HTA products.I would have to say that 99.99% of you in here have NO intention of making over 300whp so alot of the offerings we will have available will make this perfectly viable for you.

The reason for using the K04-023 is that most people on SCN can relate to it as well as the K04-001 etc.The only issue we are having is offering a software solution.

I have contacted a few popular software companies but I have not heard back as yet. If any of them are reading this and want to be part of this project please do not hesitate to contact me.

personally I dont think its the software side of things that bothers us too much (or certianly in the UK). From what I read on here, its mainly having a kit that fits, and fits well, as most will fit the kit and then drive to a well known mapper to get the best out of the kit i.e. a custom map

I understand the whole "one stop" method, hardware + software and then job done, which would be great, but having experienced crap fitting turbo kits, the fitment element is the most crucial part if I was to go down this route IMO

INA

21-01-2010, 09:44

personally I dont think its the software side of things that bothers us too much (or certianly in the UK). From what I read on here, its mainly having a kit that fits, and fits well, as most will fit the kit and then drive to a well known mapper to get the best out of the kit i.e. a custom map

I understand the whole "one stop" method, hardware + software and then job done, which would be great, but having experienced crap fitting turbo kits, the fitment element is the most crucial part if I was to go down this route IMO
Well in that case I will give you a little teaser...
We are using the High flow K04 fitment manifold and are working with 2 companies to produce turbochargers in a wide range for those of you interested.This was the only way we could economically cover both the Seat Leon crowd AND the Seat Cupra crowd.

So our kit will be able to work with:
* K04-020
* K04-022
* K04-023
* K04-T04E hybrid
* GT2860RS
* GT2871R
* HTA-GT2868R
* GT3071R
* GT3076R
* HTA-GT3076R

And will be a bolt in affair for everyone.The tubular manifold originally destined for this kit just was not cutting it....it will work for the 0.001% of customers out there but for the average guy who is just looking to increase power by 100% then a system modeled off the K04 TT set up does the job perfect.

RobDon

21-01-2010, 15:54

You're using a K04-fitment manifold with those turbos? What sort of power does the HTA-GT2868R put out? This the one?

FORCED PERFORMANCE COMPRESSOR UPGRADE
Forced Performance is now offering a 68mm billet compressor wheel for the GT28RS. The upgrade fee is $600, or you can buy a whole assembled turbo for $1500. The new wheel is said to flow 48lbm/min.

http://i190.photobucket.com/albums/z15/NOLA_VDubber/3557159957_813986a368_o.jpg

jamiebennett81

21-01-2010, 16:23

Well in that case I will give you a little teaser...
We are using the High flow K04 fitment manifold and are working with 2 companies to produce turbochargers in a wide range for those of you interested.This was the only way we could economically cover both the Seat Leon crowd AND the Seat Cupra crowd.

So our kit will be able to work with:
* K04-020
* K04-022
* K04-023
* K04-T04E hybrid
* GT2860RS
* GT2871R
* HTA-GT2868R
* GT3071R
* GT3076R
* HTA-GT3076R

And will be a bolt in affair for everyone.The tubular manifold originally destined for this kit just was not cutting it....it will work for the 0.001% of customers out there but for the average guy who is just looking to increase power by 100% then a system modeled off the K04 TT set up does the job perfect.

just a quick thought regarding the manifold

Are you saying a High flowing K04 manifold design will be used to aid "bolt on" type fitment for these turbo's?

can the K04 high flow manifold flow enough for turbos like the GT3076R? thats pushing 400+ easily......wouldnt the K04 design, even modified to be a high flowing manifold simply not flow enough?:confused:

just interested on the flow rates of the high flow K04 manifold over a properly constructed tubular design i.e. the kind of manifold Bill would make for these big turbo kits, and I question if the K04 high flow manifold can support these types of big turbo's, and if it does, why have't other tuners done so? Sorry, I'm just a bit confused

INA

21-01-2010, 17:14

This the one?
Yup!
You're using a K04-fitment manifold with those turbos? What sort of power does the HTA-GT2868R put out?
Yes we are using the K04 high flow manifold with these turbochargers.Will be offering a downpipe extension for those of you on a stock "toilet bowl" downpipe.

On a stock 1.8T Audi A4, HTA-GT2868R turbo made 292 awhp @ 6400 rpms | 254 lb-ft @ 4300 rpms @ 21psi on 91 OCT (quattro 4WD). Garret GT2560R made 255 awhp @ 6700 rpms | 234 lb-ft @ 15psi on same 91 OCT

The 2868 I tested spools JUST LIKE a 2860R and makes more power than a 2871R.It is what everyone is calling the perfect turbo for the 1.8T.

can the K04 high flow manifold flow enough for turbos like the GT3076R? thats pushing 400+ easily......wouldnt the K04 design, even modified to be a high flowing manifold simply not flow enough?:confused:

Only way to find out is by testing.

just interested on the flow rates of the high flow K04 manifold over a properly constructed tubular design i.e. the kind of manifold Bill would make for these big turbo kits, and I question if the K04 high flow manifold can support these types of big turbo's, and if it does, why have't other tuners done so? Sorry, I'm just a bit confused
for sure I would expect a tubular designed manifold to outflow what we have but again it boils down to economics.I can offer tubular manifolds and have been for years but the average consumer does not want:
* a tubular manifold
* a downpipe that requires welding
* making there own lines
etc etc etc....

They want a bolt in affair.

I cant speak for tuners outside of North America but rumor has it that there is 1 company in Greece that casted a high flow manifold for the K04 but I am not very good at reading Greek so that's a no go.
As for tuners INSIDE of North America. Everyone here is still so focused on the LHD VW Golf market that the 4WD cars (which only came in TT format) got the back burner. RHD kits never had a chance....

Now that you lads have been crying out, a few US companies have been listening (thanks inpart to the storm Bill & I have created) and have been developing kits but what they are trying to do I did last year i.e. adapt a LHD kit for RHD application.
In the end you get a very clunky looking kit so it was a sacrifice....either cast up a whole new manifold specific for RHD application and hit 2 birds with 1 stone or just not do anything at all.

wild willy

21-01-2010, 17:46

If you can make it work Issam i think you have a winning formula. :)

RobDon

21-01-2010, 18:55

Do you mean TIG-ART in Greece? They've made a manifold with different bolt-on plates to accept different turbos - K03/IHI/Garrett.

http://i312.photobucket.com/albums/ll330/SonicBlueLeon/tigart7.jpg

I honestly can't see a K03/K04 size aperture flowing enough - I mean the guy with the Beetle in the US running a GT3071R-WG on an Eliminator 2 only made 345whp using water/meth injection. Shouldn't that be well over 400 without WMI?

INA

21-01-2010, 19:00

Do you mean TIG-ART in Greece? They've made a manifold with different bolt-on plates to accept different turbos - K03/IHI/Garrett.

I honestly can't see a K03/K04 size aperture flowing enough - I mean the guy with the Beetle in the US running a GT3071R-WG on an Eliminator 2 only made 345whp using water/meth injection. Shouldn't that be well over 400 without WMI?
No, began with a B?
Thought Tig-art was in the middle east? Hmmm...

Question is though Rob would you rather have 345whp for $3000 USD or 400whp for $5000 USD?

RobDon

21-01-2010, 19:05

TIG-ART are in Israel I think. True, the Elim 2 kits are less than $2000.

INA

21-01-2010, 21:17

TIG-ART are in Israel I think. True, the Elim 2 kits are less than $2000.
I am sure you appreciate where I am coming from as I like to think that we think the same.

If we start getting into the "well X kit makes 300whp" and "Y kit makes 320whp" and "Z kit makes 335whp" then realistically we wont get very far. There are just way more LHD cars out there than RHD cars so making a RHD specific kit took a compromise.

The eliminator kit for the Transverse application was no longer available and when it was available people had issues with finding a decent inlet that worked without messing up with your gearbox linkage.The Advantage of the K04 manifold is that it positions the turbocharger high enough to avoid this AND it allows for alot more room to get a pretty decent turbocharger behind there.

RobDon

21-01-2010, 21:41

Oh yeah, I fully understand where you're coming from.

RobDon

22-01-2010, 16:27

The next inevitable question is - how are you going to mate a K04 manifold to Garrett and HTA turbos?

jamiebennett81

22-01-2010, 16:33

The next inevitable question is - how are you going to mate a K04 manifold to Garrett and HTA turbos?

that was my thought too, but wasn't sure if it was a stupid question or not:blink:

PhilW

22-01-2010, 16:54

Probably two castings with a different flange for each. Same runner configuration, just a different flange. Easy enough to do.

INA

23-01-2010, 00:24

The next inevitable question is - how are you going to mate a K04 manifold to Garrett and HTA turbos?
With the help of a very special company :D

Tom Duff

24-02-2010, 08:10

Are these kits just waiting on the mani before they are made available or are they going to come some time after?

INA

24-02-2010, 18:28

Are these kits just waiting on the mani before they are made available or are they going to come some time after?
The manifold is done,
just doing the testing now which started last week.

RobDon

28-02-2010, 20:18

Any feedback yet on how he testing is going?

INA

01-03-2010, 17:39

Any feedback yet on how he testing is going?
Showing a little gains and better boost response but thats on a K04
waiting for the 2868 to go on next to see what this REALLY does.

RobDon

08-06-2010, 18:18

Updates, any results yet?

Cupra_R04

10-06-2010, 09:04

Also interested to hear about this? :D

RobDon

01-07-2010, 19:36

Surely you must have tested this kit properly by now, with the 2868 etc. and have some dyno results to show?

INA

05-07-2010, 17:36

Surely you must have tested this kit properly by now, with the 2868 etc. and have some dyno results to show?
Hopefully will have some cars to show for Waterfest.

We have 20 manifolds on there way back from Black HFC coating.Once done should be ready for shipment.

Cupra_R04

05-07-2010, 20:22

do you mean the turbo kits will be ready or just manifolds. If you mean kits what power etc you achieved. Not meaning to sound like the devil but surely if 20 manifolds have been made then youve done testing and have results. I know that dependant on how this has worked out and cost that i would be interested if info was given out and others would .

Thanks in advance

Mark

RobDon

05-07-2010, 21:20

Waterfest means nothing to us here in the UK.

INA

05-07-2010, 22:05

RobDon

05-07-2010, 22:07

Sounds good!

Cupra_R04

06-07-2010, 10:12

cool cool well also eagerly awaiting this [B)]

boomsly

11-07-2010, 19:58

would these be suitable for haldex too? if not will you have a rhd 4wd application at some point?

RobDon

12-07-2010, 09:40

Waterfest is this coming weekend so are we going to see pics of the kit when it is unveiled then?

RobDon

19-07-2010, 19:20

Sooo ....... did you unveil the kits then?

wild willy

01-08-2010, 13:06

Any updates on this.

INA

03-08-2010, 22:06

Any updates on this.

It seems some information has leaked onto the forums
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?4972951-K04-Performance-exhaust-manifold....ANYONE

We will probably be doing an introductory Group Buy through a UK distributor and all the manifolds will be coated with HPC coating from Calico.

if you have any questions just fire off an email.

wild willy

04-08-2010, 10:22

That looks like a very honest RR result. The loss of power and torque lower down the rev range makes sense due to the lower velocity of the exhaust gases, but its no big issue as the K04 generally spikes in this rev range and the mani appears to tame it a little which is good news for us on stock rods.
The increases further up the range shows where the standard mani is at its limit of flow and the new mani kicks ass here.
As you know many of us are on K04 hybrids which flow a fair bit more than the stock unit, i would expect to see the gains lower down the rev range due to the stock mani reaching its limit of flow sooner. People with less spiky maps will see less of a loss around the 3-3.5k range.
When the car is remapped to take advantage of the increase flow (less timimg CF's, better boost holding due to lack of back pressure causing wastegate creep etc) I'm sure better gains will be seen almost across the rev range.
JBS made a high flow equal length mani a few years ago that ultimately cracked i believe bu the gains were very impressive up the top rev range which confirms what yours says also.
I've seen some sneaky pics of the unit which looks nice and sturdy and coupled with its potential for top end power increases i'm very interested and look forward to the group buy.;)
As this is the turbo kit thread are you manufacturing flange adapters for the garrets etc or are you casting a dedicated manifold based on this design with a different flange.

boomsly

04-08-2010, 10:29

i am interested, not sure if its been asked would theis be good for people with haldex equiped cars ie octavia4x4, s3's, TT's etc, if so id be interested i think

ibizacupra

04-08-2010, 12:36

the gains/losses in graphical form so peeps can see easier
http://badger-5.com/bin/Dyno/k04-hiflow.jpg

boomsly

04-08-2010, 12:46

could someone clarifiy what those lines are? the key means nothing to me. and what is the scale on the left ?

ibizacupra

04-08-2010, 13:25

bhp/lbft on left y axis, x axis is rpm, and you have +/- gains or losses of wheel hp and wheel torque

boomsly

04-08-2010, 13:30

oh i see all makes sense now, i knew it meant wheel torque and hp but didnt click about the losses, cheers bill:)

RobDon

05-08-2010, 17:59

I just don't understand all the secrecy about the kit, it's just a turbo kit, everyone else shows pics of their hardware in development, dyno results, etc., it's not going to do anything magical!

INA

05-08-2010, 21:06

I just don't understand all the secrecy about the kit, it's just a turbo kit, everyone else shows pics of their hardware in development, dyno results, etc., it's not going to do anything magical!
Because we dont want to show or launch a product and then have everyone cram down our throats only to not actually purchase it....
We have our reasons for doing things a certain way now.

jamiebennett81

05-08-2010, 21:30

Because we dont want to show or launch a product and then have everyone cram down our throats only to not actually purchase it....
We have our reasons for doing things a certain way now.

That's just the way the cookie crumbles

RobDon

06-08-2010, 09:27

Indeed, if the product is good you have nothing to worry about. All this secrecy and lack of info has just made people lose interest.

INA

06-08-2010, 16:16

Indeed, if the product is good you have nothing to worry about. All this secrecy and lack of info has just made people lose interest.

....sorry to hear that.
If there are other options out there and you feel that they would be better suited for your needs then by all means go for it.

jamiebennett81

06-08-2010, 16:29

....sorry to hear that.
If there are other options out there and you feel that they would be better suited for your needs then by all means go for it.

And by that Sammi, indeed he has done that already...

INA

06-08-2010, 17:06

And by that Sammi, indeed he has done that already...
Again,
if there is a competing product out there that is going to suite his needs in his time frame then by all means go for it. I was not going to rush this to the market only to be making revisions months into production.We have had alot of people generating interest in the manifold as well as the turbo kits and that is enough for me.:)

Cupra_R04

22-08-2010, 23:51

Hey sam have you managed to make/ have any hi flow manifolds in stock for a Garrett GT2871R Turbo.

If so cost please

Thanks in advance Mark

INA

24-08-2010, 14:25

Hey sam have you managed to make/ have any hi flow manifolds in stock for a Garrett GT2871R Turbo.

If so cost please

Thanks in advance Mark
to work with the OEM downpipe?

daves ibiza

27-08-2010, 12:45

INA

27-08-2010, 20:28

hi guys soz to hijack thread, but issam what turbos you have in stock looking at 350bhp is plenty thinking gt28 but unsure wich one to go for ill be running it on my ibiza , also prices ect any kits availible at what price
Not thread jacking.

I dont want to release too much details but the intro turbocharger will be a journal bearing 2860 that will allow you to achieve 330hp with no issues. Basically the point of this is to allow people to achieve Garrett GT power without paying through there nose for it.

We have 10 manifolds on there way back from Calico coatings now so if you are interested in a manifold please send me an email.

I will no longer be selling manifolds to the UK/Europe uncoated. This will ensure long term reliability and at the end of the day will keep you guys happy.