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Seriously thinking of having a bit of Revo treatment to my Leon cupra r...........as i'm really missing any thrills i used to get driving:(
one question for all you revo guys out there to help me decide one way or other...what is the acceleration like up to a 100mph as i'm finding it rather tame as standard
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I wouldn't describe the standard R as tame, refined?
Anyway, Revo'd R is anything from tame 0-100. I've been in one and the best way to describe it is - you know how the torque comes in on the standard car? Well it still does that, then it does it again at about 300 rpm, 'cept it's times two.
Revo trial anyone?
sorry no offence intended but tame is how i find it after coming from owning two scoobs,i just miss that "fecking hell hold on tight" acceleration i used to get and was wondering if revo would be able to return some of that feeling again
The pace in a Revo'd R is there alright, but it hides it well - it's a sports cruiser after all - not a road going rally car like the scoob.
You could probably return some of this but using harder sports suspension etc... but ulitmately they are chalk and cheese.
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LEO LION R
04-09-2003, 13:16
Its been reported to be as low as 12.7 seconds by someone on here, but that was with a high setting on SPS3 i think.
Realistically everyday probably about 14-15 seconds, without killing the clutch quickly. The standard R is about 17-19seconds depending on driver.
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Originally posted by LEO LION R
Its been reported to be as low as 12.7 seconds by someone on here, but that was with a high setting on SPS3 i think.
Realistically everyday probably about 14-15 seconds, without killing the clutch quickly. The standard R is about 17-19seconds depending on driver.
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19 seconds std ?!?!?!? I pulled a 19.08 in my fairly standard VTS before I got the Ibiza. That driver needs shooting :D
12.7 is very quick indeed .... wouldn't want to be the clutch though.
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cheers for replies.......
I've read that there are different Revo tuning stages...beside cost is the bhp/torque higher on the SPS3 than other stages of tuning or is it the ease of controlability of the SPS3 unit
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The basic program is the same, as long as you ask for it (ie. 95/98 ron programs etc)
With the SPS 3 you have the ability of being able to adjust the ignition advance (to cater for fuel types, octane booster etc) and also adjust the boost levels thro a stage of 0-9 on high and low boost levels.
Its mega adjustable and a cunning little gadget that will have you playing with your car when you should be taking the wife for dinner.
Although, id recommend intercooler mods too help with the advances in ignition and boost, although not a necessity.
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Have you considered a jabba remap, or apr if they do it yet!!!
so your not getting anymore bhp/torque for your cash just more control on what boost you want.I personally don't use octane booster,just use optimax so would there be any advantages for this kind of fuel on the SPS3 compared to the others
Have you considered a jabba remap, or apr if they do it yet!!!
was looking for something a bit stealthy for warranty;)
Downsberg
04-09-2003, 20:28
Just get the demo and see what you think. im pretty sure you will be impressed
Originally posted by P1.
so your not getting anymore bhp/torque for your cash just more control on what boost you want.I personally don't use octane booster,just use optimax so would there be any advantages for this kind of fuel on the SPS3 compared to the others
Yup, cater just fine mate, timing 6 or 7, u got a Leon? 4bar program would be even better.
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I think apr is stealthy and i think you get a 10hr demo and if you want it you enter a code after ringing them to activate the software. Amd are stealty i think. I cant comment on revo, but have a good look around, and speak to users and the sellers of the software. Get it right first time, good luck m8...:)
I think i can explain why the R feels tame in comparrison to the Scoob, it's all to do with the tourqe curve and peak tourqe values.
I don't know what kind of scoob you used to drive although i assume from your name you where lucky enough to own a P1?
Any way on a standard scoob the peak trouqe comes in from 4000rpm ish at around 240-250lbft and rises all the way to the red line
IN the Leon R the peak tourqe comes in at 2100rpm at 199lbft and goes up to around 5500rpm(i think) giving it a smoother power delivery) The scoob gives you the initial kick once the turbo starts to spool up and another one when it hits peak toruqe giving it a much more turbo feel to it, couple that with the higher tourqe figure and lower weight and the acceleration feels much more brutal.
With Revo an R will match a standard sccob on peak tourqe but come i from much lower revs. It should give you that pinned in your seat force that you love so much :)
LEO LION R
05-09-2003, 08:33
Well no one has posted a torque curve for their Revo R yet, but based on the fact that its got higher boost then i will asume its like APR's that the torque and power comes in later and steeper - but still smooth. This is simply because it cant hold the almost double standard boost levels.
So instead of smooth from 2100-5500rpm it will really kick at about 3000-3500rpm and rather than be flat it will keep rising to a max point at about 5800-6400rpm then tail off.
This gives more of a thump acceleration feel, rather than being qquick and not realising it.
Also the heat soak is much greater with higher boost so a FMIC will increase the availability of all this extra power with less losses.
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Cupramax
05-09-2003, 08:58
Originally posted by LEO LION R
Well no one has posted a torque curve for their Revo R yet Yes I did, ages ago when I posted the original rolling road outputs.... Here it is again for those too lazy to search. Please excuse Mark at Revo's typing as he put bhp on it instead of lb/ft on the graph :D
Note the 2 graphs are standard 95 ron program and the higher one is optimax set on low boost 9, timing 7 on the SPS3.
http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/attachment.php?postid=165916
LEO LION R
05-09-2003, 09:15
:redface: beg your pardon maxi baby ;)
I forgot about that one.
Still, it's pretty much how i tried to describe it, rising later and steeper and not holding for nearly as long, although that holds longer than APR's .
Do you have a boost graph overlay for that ?, it would be interesting to see the relationship to the power/torque
Apologies if you've already posted that as well.
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Cupramax
05-09-2003, 09:36
No, the only data logging we did on the rolling road runs was the inlet charge temps.
LEO LION R
05-09-2003, 10:28
So what were the inlet temps then ?
Originally posted by LDoR
I think i can explain why the R feels tame in comparrison to the Scoob, it's all to do with the tourqe curve and peak tourqe values.
I don't know what kind of scoob you used to drive although i assume from your name you where lucky enough to own a P1?
Any way on a standard scoob the peak trouqe comes in from 4000rpm ish at around 240-250lbft and rises all the way to the red line
IN the Leon R the peak tourqe comes in at 2100rpm at 199lbft and goes up to around 5500rpm(i think) giving it a smoother power delivery) The scoob gives you the initial kick once the turbo starts to spool up and another one when it hits peak toruqe giving it a much more turbo feel to it, couple that with the higher tourqe figure and lower weight and the acceleration feels much more brutal.
With Revo an R will match a standard sccob on peak tourqe but come i from much lower revs. It should give you that pinned in your seat force that you love so much :)
cheers for that:D
Did have a modded uk300 and a P1 the torque was 277 @ 4000 so yes it was a rather large kick and it revved up to 8000rpm before hitting the redline..............looks like i'll have to give the demo a go :)
Cupramax
05-09-2003, 12:32
Leo,
Inlet temps ranged from 25c at the start to 40c after 4 runs.;)
slim_boy_fat
05-09-2003, 17:12
Originally posted by Cupramax
Please excuse Mark at Revo's typing as he put bhp on it instead of lb/ft on the graph :D
http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/attachment.php?postid=165916
So tell me what is lb/ft?
279lb/ft, or is that a cryptic question?
Note wheel spin at high RPM too.
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