Shrick Sump for 2L 16V

[RobT]

Hi

A few weeks back I bought a Shrick sump from Badger5. This is a very neat piece and is cast in ali with external fins for cooling and internal baffles to control oil surge. Fitted it to my 16V using a diesel windage tray which has the sealing gaskets moulded into it so no additional gaskets are required.

Fitted fine using m6 socket cap bolts - care when fitting though since 30mm bolts are just too long when fitted with a spring and flat washer - would bottom out in block holes and not torque up properly - 2 flat washers required. Put some blue locktite on bolts and torqued to 12ftlb. The only problem was getting to the 2 bolts that fasten gearbox end - what a bugger to get to ! - had to buy a long 200mm ball ended m5 allen key and this is a dodgy fit also - will see if any oil comes out of here, have tightened as best I can.

Was originally going to convert from bolts to studs and locknuts but no way you could get a socket down to gearbox end bolts without removing gearbox - and didn't really fancy this at present.

So it fitted ok, will be doing some work on front brakes this week and then will try it out - hopefully will be leak free !

My original sump was a VW motorsport baffled steel sump with windage plate and this just wouldn't seal properly and leaked all the time through the gasket - tried new gaskets and still no joy. When weighed it, new ali sump setup is 2kg lighter ! woohoo, more weight savings from the front of the car !

Ave it

Rob

[m0rk]

it is shallower too? to aide ground clearance.

the weird thing is this - I am sure my sump in alu. -is yours clearly stamped shrick?

[RobT]

Originally posted by m0rk
it is shallower too? to aide ground clearance.

the weird thing is this - I am sure my sump in alu. -is yours clearly stamped shrick?

There are some sumps around fitted to 1.8 and 2L valvers that are ali, some have external fins and some dont - I think the audi 80 sport had external fins - but to my knowledge, none have the internal oil surge prevention baffles - mine does, and 'schrick' is milled into the base of the sump - v. nice, no doubt where it comes from.

No shallower than std sump - perhaps a bit more volume but same deck height

Interestingly, the neuspeed catologue also has a similar sump listed and from the picture it looks exactly the same casting to me - but, when supplied with bolts it costs £230 + Vat !

Mine was considerably less than this....forget how much exactly (was part of a bigger deal ;) )...what was list on this Bill ?

Dave

[Saul]

Sounds cool mate, be good to see it, what you doing to the brakes?

[ibizacupra]

Originally posted by RobT
Interestingly, the neuspeed catologue also has a similar sump listed and from the picture it looks exactly the same casting to me - but, when supplied with bolts it costs £230 + Vat !

Mine was considerably less than this....forget how much exactly (was part of a bigger deal ;) )...what was list on this Bill ?

Dave

I think it was around £165inc vat from moi (euro exchange rate dependant)
RobT pricing as you iz a regular Badger5 customer :D ;)

[Glenn]

Are these Schrick sumps still available for 2.9 (ABV) VR6 engines Bill?

[ibizacupra]

Originally posted by Glenn
Are these Schrick sumps still available for 2.9 (ABV) VR6 engines Bill?
I don't remember them in the catalogue.

Bill

[max_torque]

I'm amazed that a cast ali sump is lighter than the pressed steel std sump pan? just about every engine i've seen the old style crap tin sump was just about as light as it's possible to get. BUT rubbish for oil control, lower block strength, powertrain bending etc?

I've got a F3000 magnesium dry sump pan on my engine, which is only about 1.5" deep, and it still weighs the same as the tin sump!


(just had a thought, maybe i haven't read this post accurately and the std sump is aluminium as std?)

[RobT]

Originally posted by max_torque
I'm amazed that a cast ali sump is lighter than the pressed steel std sump pan? just about every engine i've seen the old style crap tin sump was just about as light as it's possible to get. BUT rubbish for oil control, lower block strength, powertrain bending etc?

I've got a F3000 magnesium dry sump pan on my engine, which is only about 1.5" deep, and it still weighs the same as the tin sump!


(just had a thought, maybe i haven't read this post accurately and the std sump is aluminium as std?)

If you read the posts, you will see that I am comparing my new Schrick cast ali baffled sump with a steel VW Motorsport one - this is not a std tin sump but has substantial additional strengthening with steel straps and thus, will weigh more than a std tin sump.

Thus, on my car, the 2kg weight saving and potentially better oil cooling.

I was investigating dry sump kits for my car but figured I dont need the complexity and weight (with additional oil lines, pump, tank etc that is required as well as the sump pan) at the performance level I am at - a baffled sump with windage plate should do just fine for me.

Rob