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Cupramax
11-10-2003, 15:02
Took an S4 out this morning for a little spin (or not as the case may be ;).... 4wd )

First of all from the outside the new S4 is very understated which I like. Only a very subtle body kit and small boot spoiler plus the Avus wheels make it stand out from normal run of the mill A4's.

On getting in I was greeted by electric half leather Recaro's which not only look fantastic but adjust in about 50 different directions plus have extendable thigh support!!! The car I drove had a few other options including uprated Bose sound system and aluminium interior trim which looked really nice.

So to the drive. I'd looked at the power to weight ratio to compare with mine before setting off and the Audi's was slightly higher so it was with baited breath that we set off down the slip road (salesmans words being go on then, give it some welly :D). Power delivery from the 4.2 V8 is certainly very linear compared to the 1.8T engine but to be honest I wasn't gobsmacked by how quick it was. It seems to have a pronounced step in power once above 5000 rpm though when the scenery becomes a blur:devil:

Once at motorway speeds it was a bit quicker than the Leon but not by a huge amount. Off the line you can just give it the full monty and it just sits down and f*cks off ;)... Nice.

The S4 has servotronic variable ratio power steering which sure does take some getting used to. Around town and when driving slowly you could be fooled into thinking you were driving a Fiesta but the system did weigh up nicely once on the move. Throwing it around a bit I must say the car did feel well planted although I didn't go too mad due to not really getting the hang of the steering immediately, its very different from the Leon. This is something I'm sure you'd get used to pretty quickly though.

Sitting at a set of traffic lights I opened the windows and gave it a rev, my god that engine sounds superb!!! One of those in the Leon.... ::think: :rolleyes:

The rest of the car felt fantastically well built and I dont think I can remember hearing a single squeak or rattle on the test drive. Not surprising on a £35k car... I think the only thing this car is lacking is some sort of personality and am not 100% sure its what I'm after but its certainly a nice mota.

:cheers:

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LEO LION R
11-10-2003, 20:28
So over twice the price of the LCR, was it twice the car ?

Had you ever driven the older 2.7 bi turbo S4, if so how did it compar edriving wise (obviously interior space and materials have moved on)

Has it got variable timing then that sets the blur mode on above 5000rpm or is it just where the bulk of power is ?

What's been done tuning wise by the usual companies, i take it that for under £1k you can get an extra 40-50bhp & lbft as well.

:cheers:

Cupramax
11-10-2003, 21:43
To answer your questions.... and to add a bit.

Forgot to mention I took the salesman out in the Leon afterwards as he was interested. Needless to say he has ordered some new underwear and actually thought the Leon was faster :D

Sorry Audi but no way is that car worth twice the asking price of a Leon. Quality? yes, big engine... hmmm,.... cachet not so sure. £35k is too much... :(

Have driven an old S4 and its like chalk and cheese. The old S4 drives just like a chipped Leon but with a better soundtrack. A chipped old shape S4 would piss all over the new S4. Loads more torque. Thats where the new model looses out. Only 300lb/ft with 1660kg to drag about it just aint as quick as it should be. A chipped Leon R has a higher torque to weight ratio hence it feels (even though it may not actually be) quicker.


Yep its got variable inlet cams with hydraulic assistance and 2 stage inlet geometry.

AmD have one with 415hp if you have £2500 to spare :yikes: Thats for a remap and complete sports cat Milltek's (2 of them) :D

techie
11-10-2003, 23:27
We have done a fair few S4's now.

Sports cats, Milltek exhaust and remap, then has just over 400 bhp.

Listers have had quite a few done by us and they love em. Now having all their S4 demos down to us for work, they keep selling them really quickly and having new ones done.

* edit, just read the above post....doh

mark sheerin
12-10-2003, 00:20
I was thinking of one of these as a 'SWANKMOBILE' to impress peeps with in my new job of property developer starting in the next few months but 14.4mpg...eek I'd have to close a deal every week just to buy fuel to get to the next one....scary..:(

Seriously considering a Merc S class 320cdi a very very nice mobile..had three new Mercs before...may go back to the fold.

LEO LION R
12-10-2003, 10:57
AmD have one with 415hp if you have £2500 to spare :yikes: Thats for a remap and complete sports cat Milltek's (2 of them) :D

Presumably it also has simlar torque with that too ?

So for £37500 you get a luxury motor with 400 + bhp & 400 + lbft, so even at 1660kg it would be like chalk and cheese again with the chipped LCR :D

Not twice though :cheers: