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Hi , i have got an Ibiza 2.0 16V , just wondering if anyone here has had the schrick cams and a remap done for the said vehicle.
What power increases were gained and the effect on driving etc.. , o and a cost , who offers the services too ?
Thanks.
vince @ stealth racing can get Geoff Everett from old AmD who will do the best by that mod (www.stealthracing.co.uk)
the cams are dear - but you can buy them from Badger5 (bill@badger5.co.uk)
Mark
This made 194 bhp on the Stealth RR:
ABF running K-Jet
Stealth ported head
Schrick 276s
50mm inlet manifold
custom alloy airbox
8000rpm rev limit
sean martin
11-11-2003, 16:26
Yep, got schrick 260's in. Re-mapped. Gasflowed head running about 180 bhp. Vince at Stealth will recommend 260's to you if you give him a call. Anything more than 260's and the car won't be much fun to drive to work and back in.
8000RPM redline, yummy! :p
my plan is a good ported head, schrick 260's or Kent 264's, and maybe modify the standard abf inlet manifold to try an enlargen it.
Should be good for 170bhp+
Just need some cash now :)
I must admit, I'm well impressed with 194bhp from that set-up above, although I wouldn't want to be going to 8k rpm without some work done to the bottom end! And what a pair of 276s is like to drive around town with I'm not sure I want to find out. H8SV8S on here is running a ported ABF head with Schrick 268/276 and AFAIK it is acceptable on the road and around town.
Can digifant cope with in excess of 180bhp, and what about the injectors? Are they not near their limit much beyond 180bhp, so 190+ would be nigh on un-achievable without a programmable ECU?
sean martin
11-11-2003, 18:43
I have had 3 combinations of schrick cams in my engine. Firstly started with 268/276 combo. This was simpluy too much for the lambda sensoe to cope with, and as a result the engine would only just tickover and was crap on the road, even though it went like stink when above 5000 rpm. I then ran a straight 268 setup, this improved tickover and low end torque a bit but Vince at Stealth and Geoff who mapped the ECU said that 260's were needed. So they went in and now there is decent power throughout the rev-range = very real world usable power. Basically high lift cams are great if you are gunna use your car mainly on the track or dragstrip, but not much fun for road use. All the above is only relavent for electronic fuel injection, I am sure u r aware that k-jet can cope a lot better with high lift cams
sean if you don't mind me asking,what sort of price has it cost you with stealth?just the price of headwork cams and mapping,i would go for a milder set up than you first had.:cheers:
sean martin
11-11-2003, 19:11
I did not have the head done at stealth cus I didn't know they existed when I had the first set of cams put in, if I did then I would have gone with the 260's first time round. Head work was done by a firm in the midlands who do the prodrive stuff for subaru, Cost £700 cus it needed 16 new valve guides. A re-map by geoff at Stealth would cost about £400 including vat at stealth. They would charge about £200 to fit a pair of cams that u supplied. Obviously you could sort out a better price than I got if u had the cams fitted and the re-map done together.
ibizacupra
11-11-2003, 20:04
Originally posted by sean martin
.... I am sure u r aware that k-jet can cope a lot better with high lift cams
Well no not really without upsetting the metering heads lift flap.
Wondering what emissions are like on that 196bho K-Jet car.... CO levels sky high perhaps.
Not forgetting Geoff Everett did use 268's on a MK3 ABF 16v Golf some years back, and got 204bhp from it when mapped. Being an old git I remember this.
The lambda thing I still think is BS, or faulty lambda personally. 268's are mild cams.
260's are the milder option tho, and have worked for you. :)
Originally posted by ibizacupra
Well no not really without upsetting the metering heads lift flap.
Wondering what emissions are like on that 196bho K-Jet car.... CO levels sky high perhaps.
Not forgetting Geoff Everett did use 268's on a MK3 ABF 16v Golf some years back, and got 204bhp from it when mapped. Being an old git I remember this.
The lambda thing I still think is BS, or faulty lambda personally. 268's are mild cams.
260's are the milder option tho, and have worked for you. :) is that 204 with stnd inlet bill?or on throttles?
:cheers:
ibizacupra
12-11-2003, 07:17
Originally posted by jason
is that 204 with stnd inlet bill?or on throttles?
:cheers:
Std ABF inlet mate.
I will add however, that was in the days when AmD rollers were thought to be optomistic slightly.
The car was gas flowed head, exhaust the cams and Geoff remapping.
My K-jet car running 268's at that same time was 186bhp on Geoff's rollers from my 9A 2ltr 16v in the Jetta.
RobT on his 9A motor running ABF inlet and lumenition however was 180bhp I think before t'bodies.
Confused?
regards
bill
sean martin
12-11-2003, 16:44
Yes geoff told me about the 16 valve that made 204 bhp. He said it was a 16v corrado running schrick 260's. Even Geoff admitted that it must have been a very strong engine in the first place to get this sort of power. He also said that the car was running a straight through exhaust including manifold with absolutelly no mufflers. They had to put some in because the sound was too much, this bought horsepower back down into the 190's. With regards to cams it is totally down to personal preference, and obviously the milder the cams - the more usuable the car is for everyday road driving.