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Flicking thro my old mags and found an article featuring a 237 BHP Cordy SX, take a look.
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ta
So, when are you upgrading to that engine spec then Martyn !!:D
cordobabrendy
17-01-2002, 21:25
he secretly already has, hes just waiting for me, pete, ovv,scotty,alan and a few other cordy owners to get to gether at a trackday and waste us, oh and that also includes monkey boys beezer!!:devil:
My wife seems to have suddenly started liking the cordy now for some reason!
Ssssh, Its sposed to be a secret ;)
lol Mosser, better get ya motor fixed so ya can sell it and get a cordy (I'd keep ya missus happy and we'd have one more in the cordy gang...lol :)
ibizacupra
17-01-2002, 22:07
Originally posted by Martyn
Flicking thro my old mags and found an article featuring a 237 BHP Cordy SX, take a look.
Page 1 (http://www.seatcupra.net/files/mag1.jpg)
Page 2 (http://www.seatcupra.net/files/mag2.jpg)
Page 3 (http://www.seatcupra.net/files/mag3.jpg)
ta
So you read Max Power then eh? :D
Lax Bowels
Max Shower
etc etc etc
Your secrets out!
Bill
:D
Nah!, cant see me swapping my Leon for a cordy!, but if the wife wants to get herself a Cordy then i dont mind!!
Bill, well it was in March 1999, I was young and foolish, and the mag of was a reasonable quality back then (unlike now) ;)
Mosser ;)
Icecavern
18-01-2002, 08:33
Unfortunatley that Cordoba is no more... Well in turbo'd form. It was the motor that convinced everyone in the Seat world that you can't turbo a 16v.. Bollox I say. RSD were commisioned to remove the turbo and put back to factory spec. Unfortunatly I found out too late because. There were rumours it was sitting in a Seat lock up for ages but nobody would admit to knowing anything. Not that I was looking for it so I could buy it you understand.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
It wasn't installed properly and non of the connections were tight etc. And it had the boost turned up too far causeing it to be very unreliable. The boost needed winding down and some time spent putting stuff right. 220bhp would have been ok I think. :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:
Pete
cordobabrendy
18-01-2002, 11:24
yes pete, from what ive seen coming from yankland sites 16v vw's are ten a penny!! even a low compression turbo would stil give a serious kick up the arse, on the other hand hows about a supercharger, approx same cost and requires a bit of rebuilding every 40-50k but id say you get more OOOFF per pound!!
Icecavern
18-01-2002, 12:40
As you'll have no doubt read in the accessories I was going for a west coast style Cordy. A supercharger was most likely as the turbo parts are difficult to get. But since I couldn't get cheap insurance on just a chip added but can get insurance cheaper than the ( almost standard ) Cordy for a T5 or a 200bhp Golf then I'm not going to bother.
Pete
cordobabrendy
18-01-2002, 12:52
what were they quoting you???
Well I guess its back to the old "can or cant you" argument - you can - check out Nabils Evo Turbo, thats now got a 16v 2 litre lump, he turbo'd his using the Saab 900 turbo.
I have a list of the specs of his car if anyone would like to invest their money, I would be very happy to , "ahem " offer my cordy as a test car,
get yer cheque books out boys.....
Ovv
ibizacupra
18-01-2002, 13:40
Originally posted by CordobaPete
As you'll have no doubt read in the accessories I was going for a west coast style Cordy. A supercharger was most likely as the turbo parts are difficult to get. But since I couldn't get cheap insurance on just a chip added but can get insurance cheaper than the ( almost standard ) Cordy for a T5 or a 200bhp Golf then I'm not going to bother.
Pete
Turbo stuff difficult to get and supercharger cheaper?
Never seen that.
8vturbo.com has everything you would want for a 16v turbo conversion..
there are guys in the USA getting huge power from turbocharged 16v's and supercharged ones hardly ever appear as big power, if at all.
Bill
cordobabrendy
18-01-2002, 14:03
ive always been under the assumption that a supercharger whacks on 40bhp easily,more if tweaked, and cause its belt driven ,nolag at all, turbos on other hand , the bigger the more laggy????
Icecavern
18-01-2002, 15:15
Superchargers cost more but the power delivery is much smoother. Must admit I hadn't seen 8vturbo.com for the parts though..
Brendy, Most insurers wouldn't touch it. Out of the ones that would it was double the cost now Over £2k.... Arse to that... 200bhp Cordy for £2k or a T5 ( 240bhp ) or Golf ( 195bhp ) for £900 hmmmm......
Pete
ibizacupra
18-01-2002, 16:59
Originally posted by cordobabrendy
ive always been under the assumption that a supercharger whacks on 40bhp easily,more if tweaked, and cause its belt driven ,nolag at all, turbos on other hand , the bigger the more laggy????
Not all chargers are no lag... Only positive displacement ones. Roots type for example. Eaton as a make, G-Lader etc etc.
The bolt on chargers you see on VR6's for example, by Vortech and Z-Engineering are belt driven turbo chargers as much as superchargers. Their impellors are centrifugal ones just like turbos (not exactly, but very similar)
These generally add power as the revs climb to max rpm.... progressive yes, but not huge torque from zero rpm, like positive displacement chargers.
As an example, I had a go in a 2.9ltr VR6 Supercharged Golf Mk2. It drove like a VR6 but on steroids..... You got to 4K rpm, the VR6 point of getting excitable, and it pulled BIG TIME through to the rev limiter. Same characteristics as the base 2.9 VR6 engine, but more powerful - ~260bhp from 190bhp inc chip.
There are superchargers and there are superchargers.
Sorry to bore you.
regards
Bill
:D
cordobabrendy
18-01-2002, 17:48
no mate, thats interesting, i do believe that low revs would be crap because iafterall it is a 16v and the torque to pull the extra belts etc would also take their toll until around 3500 rpm then WAHEYYYYYY only my stomach, il pick it up on the way back!!!!
Bill,
Whats the exact URL for the 8v website ?
Ovv
ibizacupra
18-01-2002, 20:52
Originally posted by CordobaPete
Unfortunatley that Cordoba is no more... Well in turbo'd form. It was the motor that convinced everyone in the Seat world that you can't turbo a 16v.. Bollox I say. RSD were commisioned to remove the turbo and put back to factory spec. Unfortunatly I found out too late because. There were rumours it was sitting in a Seat lock up for ages but nobody would admit to knowing anything. Not that I was looking for it so I could buy it you understand.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
It wasn't installed properly and non of the connections were tight etc. And it had the boost turned up too far causeing it to be very unreliable. The boost needed winding down and some time spent putting stuff right. 220bhp would have been ok I think. :devil: :devil: :devil: :devil:
Pete
Did'nt they still have all the bits in the box off it?
RSD that is.
Bill
ibizacupra
18-01-2002, 20:56
Originally posted by cordobabrendy
no mate, thats interesting, i do believe that low revs would be crap because iafterall it is a 16v and the torque to pull the extra belts etc would also take their toll until around 3500 rpm then WAHEYYYYYY only my stomach, il pick it up on the way back!!!!
Not so sure.
The G60 Limited was a G60 16v motor.. Positive displacement charger and 16v's. It should have benefitted a lot from that sort of charger.
Centrifugal one on a 16v, and yep... It will take the same guise as the base engine its bolted to.
The major reason the 16v motor has such poor low end torque as standard is the inlet port sizes are very large. Too big really. Poor gas speed into the cylinders. Compare the superb cosworth designed Red Top Vauxhall 16v head with the VW one, and the Vauxhall one has tiny port by comparison.
regards
Bill
ibizacupra
18-01-2002, 21:00
Originally posted by Ovv
Bill,
Whats the exact URL for the 8v website ?
Ovv
http://8vturbo.com/
regards
Bill