View Full Version : wanna try Beer / Evry mod, but i'm a bit stuck!
Hi all
I'm thinking of trying out the Evry mod which involves putting a resistor across a couple of wires near the ECU.
Trouble is that there's the plastic cover over engine. (110tdi)
Does an know how to take these off?
Also, have any of you guys tried this on a standard 110 engine?
If so, what are your thoughts?
cheers
Just pull it up and off. It's held in place by some "rubber finger type" thingies (very tech term I know...:D :D ).
cheers for that,
i'll try it when i get home...
i had a fiddle with it yesterday (oo-er, missus!)
and it seems to be stuck behind the dipstick holder.
also, there's a couple of screws/bolts on the top
do you still reckon i should just yank it off?!?
cheers
Originally posted by Danja
cheers for that,
i'll try it when i get home...
i had a fiddle with it yesterday (oo-er, missus!)
and it seems to be stuck behind the dipstick holder.
also, there's a couple of screws/bolts on the top
do you still reckon i should just yank it off?!?
cheers
OK if you've got the one with bolts, take them off 1st. Thinks it's 2 towards the back of cover and one up front, under plastic covers.
BeezerDiesel
09-01-2004, 03:54
Carefully lever out the nut covers, then undo the nuts holding the cover on. You'll need to remove the dipstick then wiggle a bit and pull at the same time (fnarr fnarr!).
Cheers for the help guys...
managed to get the cover off,
also located the 10-pin plug, and managed to get that out of the clip.
I can see pins 2 and 3, however i can't semm to unplug it.
I might not have to anyway cos all I'll be doing is "tee-ing" in a wire onto each.
Also, while I was looking around the engine bay, I couldn't find an ideal place to run wires in to the inside of the car. It would've been nice to have a switch so i can leave it off when i start the car (and when the missus is driving).
Any thoughts/ideas are welcome...
thanks
Don't remember off the top of my head, but I'd ask Pete (iceman) as he's always running cables from the battery into the car so he should know the best way to run wires in.
Just in case anyone's interested...
went to Maplins this morning and bought:
1K ohm variable resistor (pot)
a knob for the pot (!)
470 ohm resistor
small toggle switch
and a small box to fit these all in.
When I get a chance, I'm gonna solder the resistors in series with the switch, fit them in the box, and run the two wires to pins2 and 3 on the fuel pump plug.
Hopefully I'll find a way of keeping the box inside the car.
Does anyone know how to disconnect the 10-pin plug, or should i just try to just push the wires straight into plug from the outside (like someone has mentioned before???
cheers
There's another thread on here regarding the "EVRY MOD".
muddyboots
15-01-2004, 15:42
My other thread "Cheap Mod" is pretty much the same thing, but for the PD engines.
This thread is about the non-PD engines.
The theory is the same, but connections are different.
Also, on PD engines, lower resistance = more fuelling, but I have a feeling (might be wrong here) that it's the other way round on non-PD engines.
basstard
25-11-2004, 14:41
Dug out this old thread.
I need some extra info on the every for a 110 nonPD. Don't worry it's not mine, is a friend of a friend of a friend (you know) who asked the old one:
"there ain't a way to get some more pull out o' this s*itter without spending a fortune?"
So:
-on a 110, what resistor to use? Don't really care about a variable resistance version, just a plug/unplug thing.
-where is the sensor line on which I gotta plug the thing? (someone has any pics?)
Thanx in advance
muddyboots
25-11-2004, 19:37
Not too sure on details for the non-PD engines, but you might find more info by searching on TDIClub.com...
and uk-mkivs.net as well.
basstard
26-11-2004, 10:02
Muddy, I remember you tryin it or am I wrong?
I know you got a 130, but any info would be appreciated,,, if you had any pics it would be great. I'm reading on the tdiclub a related post but now I'm @ page 5 on god knows how many,,,
It seems that there's a 10 pin plug near the fuel filter (on A4 engines at least) and you should connect pins 2 and 3 with a 1K pot (variable resistor if I got it right). But then how I do re-plug the harness? :confused:
basstard
26-11-2004, 10:46
No, I now understand that this mod for pd engines is completely different,,,
yep, i think the term beer mod is for the PDs and the Evry mod is for the non PDs from what i read over on ukmkivs.
muddyboots
26-11-2004, 14:31
Yes, I tried the PD version, but only to a mild degree as my car's already chipped...
basstard
27-11-2004, 01:54
Yes, I tried the PD version, but only to a mild degree as my car's already chipped...
You mad!! I wouldn't do that on a chipped engine,,, :(
With the sentence "bridging pins 2 & 3" they do mean I gotta short circuit those two pins with a pot? And how do I reconnect the harness in then? :confused:
Any ideas guys? How did you do for the PD version muddy?
muddyboots
27-11-2004, 08:57
You mad!! I wouldn't do that on a chipped engine
Well my ABT chip doesn't provide the same bhp as Revo, so I thought there was scope for a bit more increase. That's why I only used a very mild resistance value.
It hasn't made much of a difference other than more smoke, I think possibly because my chip doesn't run as much boost as Revo etc.
I think if you search for a old thread called "Cheap Mod" IIRC, you will find the info on how I did my mod, complete with OE part numbers for the connectors.
basstard
27-11-2004, 09:40
Thanx mate.
The reason I wouldn't do that on a chipped car is the fear of maxin'out the injectors you know. But probably as you said you have plenty of "space" (margins) to play with.
Now, could you confirm that you just "replaced" the fuel temp sensor with a resistor (or better a pot)? Which means short circuiting the two pins right?
EDIT:
ok, read it better, so you put the resistor in parallel with the sensor and then plugged the harness,,,
muddyboots
27-11-2004, 17:37
EDIT:
ok, read it better, so you put the resistor in parallel with the sensor and then plugged the harness,,,
Correct :)
basstard
27-11-2004, 19:11
Beautiful, so the sensor still serves its purpose and the current is lineary altered by the resistor.
Now my plan is to buy the two plugs as you did, in my case they'll be ecu side and fuel pump side, then run wires stright from connector to connector and then add the pot between wires for pin 2 & 3,,,
I mean, it ain't difficult but if I got the wrong info,,,
Hope not to burn anything up. :blink:
Any correction anyone?
muddyboots
29-11-2004, 08:10
Beautiful, so the sensor still serves its purpose and the current is lineary altered by the resistor.
Yes, but the value of the resistor is such that the temp sensor has very little effect.
I have no idea what resistance value to use for non-PD engines though, don't just try the same as I did, probably completely wrong for non-PD !!!
basstard
29-11-2004, 12:52
I'll go for a 1.5k pot and will try 1.1 and less and will set it just before it affects the idle. This is what I udnestood from tdiclub. The values for the resistance are the only thing I'm sure of.
Muddy, sorry to be a pain in the rear but is this what "bridging" pins 2 & 3 means?
(consider the dots as blank, the server eliminates usless spaces)
ecu side fuel pump side
PIN2---------┬----------PIN2
...................|
...................|
.................POT
...................|
...................|
PIN3---------┴----------PIN3
That's not my car you know.