Mk5 Ibiza Bulb List

[nightflight]

Information originally compiled by ibizasc-chris
(my notes in red) (Alt. bulb code in blue)

extract from the manual.

Double Headlamps: Bocanegra / Cupra / FR / Sport / SE / Ecomotive

Dipped beam - H7 Long Life How To: Guide (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=294646)
Main Beam - H7
Sidelights - 2x W5W Long Life 501 How To: Guide (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=281654) Inner pair MUST be CANBUS LEDs, Outer pair are NOT CANBUS.
Indicator - PY21W 581 How To: Guide (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=288653)


Single Headlamp: S / S(a/c)

Dipped / Main - H4 Long Life
Sidelights - W5W Long Life 501 CANBUS
Indicator - PY21W 581


Xenon Headlights / Self Adjusting Optional Extra

Dipped and Full Beam - D1S
Sidelights - W5W Blue Long Life 501 CANBUS
DRL (Daylight) - P21W Super Long Life 382 CANBUS
Indicators - PY21W 581



Fog Lights

Pre-Facelift- HB4 (Yes, HB4, The manual says they're H11, they're not, they're HB4)9006
Facelift - H8 708


Rear Lights

Fog Light - P21W 382
Reverse Gear - depends which model you have...

3dr models - W16W 955
5dr models - 2x R10W 245

Brakelights - P21 / SW Long Life 380
Sidelights - P21 / 5W Long Life 380
Indicator - PY21W 581 How To: Guide (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=289119)


Side Indicator

Side Indicator - W5W 501 How To: Guide (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=289630) CANBUS


Registration Plate Light

Registration Plate Light - W5W 501 Sport / SE (unconfirmed) / Ecomotive (unconfirmed) How To: Guide (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=290167)
Registration Plate Light - Festoon x2 239 Bocanegra / Cupra / FR (unconfirmed) 36mm


Interior Lights How To: Guide (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=290172)

Centre Light - Festoon 264 44mm
Map Lights - W5W 501 Not CANBUS
Boot Light - Festoon 264 42mm

[wigz45]

Registration light for Cupra & FR isnt 264. Tried fitting today and they are too big!

[P1TT8ULL]

i purchased some bulbs online. fogs main and dipped all fine just worried about side lights. the description says 'e marked and road legal' and when i spoke to seller on phone he confirmed they were legal. still not to sure if they are to blue or not. driven passed a few police no probs but im sure theres a jobs worth out there waiting to pull me over and fine me. any great suggestions. cheers

[dannychapman10]

I'll be changing the lights on my Cupra which has Bi-Xenons, I'll pop up a guide as too how hard/easy it is, D1S bulbs, 501s etc :)
Just to clarify that the DRL's are as simple as changing the indicator bulb on the standard twin headlamp :)

Danny.

[MichaelLi--]

can anyone give me some details about the LED fog lights for MK5 Cupra?
cheers

[MichaelLi--]

wait, you know how those tools used? can it be used to do it for cupra? it grille doesnt look like it can be took off :\

[Shelby]

Hello folks,
Sorry, complete Newbie to all this, but reading the bulbs list with interest as I wouldnt mind changing a few of them around the Mk5, but I havent got a clue what CANBUS is?
Are the bulb codes in blue for LED versions?
And finally, how many reverse lights are there on the Mk5? Mine has only one, but what looks like another one on the other side, wonder if its meant to be like that or just a knackered bulb!!
Thanks
Mike

[NetworkMan]

I can answer some of your questions....

CANBUS is a digital data bus that various components in a modern car use to communicate with one another. You can read all about it on Wikipedia. Some cars (BMW I think - maybe more) actually need special lamps that interface with the CANBUS but the Ibiza is not one of these and the lamps supplied with the car are all of the traditional type - see the manual you got with the car.

I don't know why the above list states that some of the lamps need to be CANBUS since the original ones aren't. Perhaps someone else will explain.

My 5 door car has two reversing lamps but AFAIK the 3 door cars only have one even though it looks as if there ought to be two. I believe this was discussed elsewhere on this forum - you can't just fit an extra lamp.

[markmeus]

I think when it says CANBUS what it means is that these bulbs are linked to the CANBUS system and if you replace them with LED versions, you will get a warning light unless you get CANBUS LEDs

[NetworkMan]

Ahhhh....

It could be that the failure detector works by sensing that there is no significant current flowing. An LED is a very low current device and might therefore fool the detector into reporting a bulb failure. Perhaps the CANBUS LEDs take more current which stops the failure detector from working.

......... Just a guess.

[watchboy]

Hi I got a Manual from a friend's MK5 2010 and it says that the Fog/Cornering bulb is H11 and not HB4.

Can anyone confirm it?

Thanks.

[NetworkMan]

The manual for my 2011 model 5-door also says H11. I think the HB4 and H11 are both right-angle types but have different bases.

I generally have spares for all the lamps that are legally required. The fog lamps aren't a legal requirement so I'm not bothered much. Who knows they may even last the life of the car anyway.

[watchboy]

The manual for my 2011 model 5-door also says H11. I think the HB4 and H11 are both right-angle types but have different bases.

I generally have spares for all the lamps that are legally required. The fog lamps aren't a legal requirement so I'm not bothered much. Who knows they may even last the life of the car anyway.

True. Here the fog light is seldom utilized too.

But I am planning to change all the stock bulbs to white light. That's why I asked. Planning to get OSRAM or Philips for it.:p

[nightflight]

It's definitely HB4 Fog Lights, confirmed by a few people on here who've read the manual only to find it's wrong.

[VRSLOZ]

My 2010 plate MK5 takes HB4 bulbs, replaced them with the Ultra ones :)

[watchboy]

Thanks for the confirmation guys. I just checked with the dealer and it is CONFIRMED that the fog light bulb is HB4!!! :)

[Jhouse_101]

can anyone confirm these will fit please? for a cupra with xenon's

Number Plate Light x2 - http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/239...ANBUSLED3.html
Interior Light - http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/264...d-colours.html
Map Lights x2 - http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/501...ght-bulbs.html
DRL's - (http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/382...ight-pair.html)

also which bulb do i need for the boot light? cheers

[a.fish]

so, i've just finished doing all the lights inside and out.....having had the car going back to the dealers this week for a cooling problem, they noticed the new lights and told me that my warranty for lights was now void as i had put after-market bulbs in....i sorta knew that this would be the case but as a new light unit is anywhere in the region of £160 i'm not too keen on having to replace them.

i am using a full set of Ultra lights, fog, main, side...has anyone had any wiring issues? the dealer put the fear in me saying although brighter lights are better, some can draw more power than the wires are designed for...therefore frying them.

can any one advise??

[markmeus]

It's a bit crap of them to do this, if a bulb had blown and you replaced it was a cheap standard bulb, would the warranty still be void? The fact that there are VOID stickers on the headlights is a complete joke in my opinion.

[a.fish]

that was my point to them too. If a light had gone, by law, i'm expected to change it! according to them, your to bring it back to the dealer!! :confused:

makes no sense really, i'm tempted to try and find a set of 'void' stickers so that if anything does happen, in go the old lights, fresh stickers and no one's the wiser!!

[ScottiCupraTDI]

Registration Plate Light - Festoon x2 239 Bocanegra / Cupra / FR (unconfirmed) 36mm

Can anyone confirm this for an FR? I had a look and there are 2 seperate lights but not too sure?

[nightflight]

i'm tempted to try and find a set of 'void' stickers so that if anything does happen, in go the old lights, fresh stickers and no one's the wiser!!

What we'd need is a friendly SCN'er who works in a dealership who could pick up some ;)

[ntemis21]

very helpful guide
nice man

[char_baby]

this should be an easier list to look at (based on 2010 twin headlight)

http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/custom_mods/bulb_finder/car_bulb_master.php

Change options if for others.

[Davey Boy]

Rear Lights
Fog Light - P21W 382
Reverse Gear - R10W 245
Brakelights - P21 / SW Long Life 380
Sidelights - P21 / 5W Long Life 380
Indicator - PY21W 581 How To: Guide (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=289119)

Yeah, just thought I'd let everyone know. The reversing light is NOT a R10W at all. In fact it's not even a bayonett type fitting.

Its a W16W (written on the light unit and confirmed with my own two eyes looking at the bulb)

See Here (http://www.autobulbsdirect.co.uk/R955-12V-16W-W16W-Stop-High-Level-Brake-Light.html)

I know that link says brake light, but that's it more common use and if it's not behind a red lens it will be "white"...

I'm UBER peed off with SEAT about this, cos my reversing light went, so I checked the book, checked here and (no agro at the op here, it does say extract) both rekon 245, but believe me, it's the wrong size, shape, wattage and type to fit the unit. Methinks I'll be having a word at the stealers about giving me a free bulb seen as until I took the unit out and looked I didn't know I'd got the wrong bulb... and the bulb in question (W16W) isn't mentioned ANYWHERE in the manual!!!

[nightflight]

Thanks for the update. I've changed the first post so no one else gets duped by the manual.

Keep at SEAT, it's the least they can do given that it's their mistake. You'd've thought that o something as important as the manual that every detail would be checked and double checked before printing off several thousand of them.

[NetworkMan]

Could it be that the 5-door uses R10W even though the SC doesn't?
I seem to remember reading that they are different. My 5-door has one reversing light each side and I believe I read that the SC has only one.

[Davey Boy]

Hmm, must admit I hadn't thought of that.... and the SC does only have one (the other is blanked off). Either way, it should mention it in the manual!

[NetworkMan]

Ibiza Owners Club (if I may mention that here!) have a guide to a 5-door:-
http://www.*******.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=899
In the picture It certainly looks like an R10W. What's more there seem to be two stop-tail lamps each side.

[Algarvian]

On Single Headlights, do not buy leds for indicator.
It doesn't fit the optic.

I bought this ones :581-360-degree-amber-led-bulb-pair @ autobulbsdirect
They are too large to fit the optics. Gonna try to put em on the rear optics.

[Mark_Jones]

Could it be that the 5-door uses R10W even though the SC doesn't?
I seem to remember reading that they are different. My 5-door has one reversing light each side and I believe I read that the SC has only one.

Just been out to look at my 5 Door Sport (2011 model) and the reversing bulbs dare R10W.
And are quite pathetic for reversing! I think they must be 'to be seen, not to see'....!

[watchboy]

Just been out to look at my 5 Door Sport (2011 model) and the reversing bulbs dare R10W.
And are quite pathetic for reversing! I think they must be 'to be seen, not to see'....!

R10W is correct for 5D models. I think if you want more light, you can replace them with SMD LED bulbs, but I think your dash will light up for error.

[Alex1411]

hey guys, total newb here, never posted before but read several posts, some gooood stuff on here. I have a seat ibiza cupra mk5/6J which does NOT have Bi-Xenon headlights, does anybody know how I could get that bright white/blue look of the Xenons by just changing the bulbs possibly?

Cheers

[char_baby]

Ultra headlight bulbs, most people use on here.

Find them on ebay.

[Alex1411]

cheers, do they look anything similar to xenons or is clearly noticable that they are not xenons? Also, I read on here that using higher power bulbs such as these can cause issues with the wiring overheating? Is this likely to happen or a common issue do you know?

many thanks

[char_baby]

Dont think anybody has had that issue so far.

You can definately tell that they aren't xenons, the same way you can tell HID aren't them and just blind the absolute crap out of you! :whistle: anyway...they'll just produce a near white light instead of the yellow colour.

[Shelby]

Ive got the ultra bulbs and they do make a hell of a difference in terms of light output onto the tarmac. you can tell they are not HIDs or Xenons, they just are a white light, and do look rather sharp. for less than a tenner, you have a great upgrade/mod.

[Alex1411]

Thanks guys. So not only do they produce a better quality light they look much better aswell because the only thing I am really trying to achieve is the visual look. Have you just replaced the main bulbs shelby or the sidelights and fogs etc? I dont suppose you would mind sending me the link to the site or the details of where you got yours from please :). I know I probably sound dumb but I'm fairly new to the mod game haha. Also, any idea of how much a set of ibiza cupra 17" Sira alloys hardly used in mint condition would fetch as I have a set I may consider selling at some point?

Many Thanks

[nightflight]

So the Ultra headlight bulbs give more useable light than the standard ones?
Not bothered about looks, I'd rather be able to see at night

[Shelby]

in my opinion, they give off more light, especially noticeable when driving along dark lanes wityh no streetlighting, the whole place is lit up a treat.
re: where to buy, good old ebay, and do a search for ultra bulbs H7 for the dipped beam, H7 for the full beam, W5W for the 4 little sidelights, and HB4 for the front fogs. Ive not changed the front fogs yet, bit of a chore involving bumper removal etc, so will get round to it soon enough.
Go to the Mk5 Ibiza FAQ list, and there is a bulb list thread and a how to guide for alot of the bulbs. worth checking out for sure.
Also, no idea bout the 17" wheels either I'm afraid....

[Shelby]

in my opinion, they give off more light, especially noticeable when driving along dark lanes wityh no streetlighting, the whole place is lit up a treat.
re: where to buy, good old ebay, and do a search for ultra bulbs H7 for the dipped beam, H7 for the full beam, W5W for the 4 little sidelights, and HB4 for the front fogs. Ive not changed the front fogs yet, bit of a chore involving bumper removal etc, so will get round to it soon enough.
Go to the Mk5 Ibiza FAQ list, and there is a bulb list thread and a how to guide for alot of the bulbs. worth checking out for sure.
Also, no idea bout the 17" wheels either I'm afraid....

And yes, I do realise that THIS IS the bulb list thread..... :doh:

[BaldyDave]

cheers, do they look anything similar to xenons or is clearly noticable that they are not xenons? Also, I read on here that using higher power bulbs such as these can cause issues with the wiring overheating? Is this likely to happen or a common issue do you know?

many thanks

You have to be careful to not confuse high power lights with ultra bright lights. The Ultras that folk on here use actually are rated at exactly the same power consumption as the standard bulbs, therefore they will draw the same current and will not stress the wiring at all. However due to the Ultra's superior design they produce far more light than standard bulbs. When looking at bulbs just make sure that the power rating (in Watts) is the same as the standard bulb - you will not damage the wiring if you do this. In the case of H7 bulbs, standard power rating is 55W.

You can source bulbs that will give you a lot more light by being higher wattage, and it's these bulbs you have to be very careful with as they could seriously barbecue your wiring!

[Maxt890]

Just to warn people the boot light is infact a 42mm and the centre light is a 44mm the other way round as shown. the 44 fits in both but you have to really bend the contacts back on the boot light.

[jj mann]

just put in led sidelights and oreder an hid kit but when i turn my lights on my light bulb warning light comes and stays on is there anyway i can get rid off it

[IbizaMK5Pearce]

It says at the top for the mk5 Ibiza sidelights that only one of them are canbus out of the two.....is this a you must have one canbus and one not or can they both be canbus??

[adamb87]

Only 1 canbus bulb or else warning light will be on. They will work just with the annoying light.

[char_baby]

Both canbus can be on the inside and ultras on the outside. Thats what I have anyway.

[IbizaMK5Pearce]

Ok so if I get 2 canbus bulbs and 2 normal LED side lights and put the canbus ones on the inside and the normals on the outside then i shouldn't have a warning light because that would annoy me :S

[char_baby]

It shouldn't do, why not get 2 Ultra sidelight bulbs for 100% reassurance?

[markmeus]

Even with canbus LEDs in the canbus bulb holders you still get the error light for some reason.

[nightflight]

Don't faff about getting one set of canbus and one non canbus, just get 2 sets of the ultra ones. No warnings and they'll match. I faffed and my sidelights are different whites and it annoys me every time I look at them.

[char_baby]

For me Ultras look too blue which is why I didn't get both sets, the canbus gives off more white IMO so i like the two tones.

[IbizaMK5Pearce]

Ok, So can i just clear up what is the best option if i dont want any warning lights

[char_baby]

2 sets of ultras will get you no warning lights.

[IbizaMK5Pearce]

by Ultra's do you mean just non canbus bulbs!! I thought they had to be canbus but ill take you advice

[markmeus]

Ultras are just normal bulbs, but they've got a blue tint, and are the closest thing to proper LED colour without getting actual LEDs - the Ibiza doesn't like LED sidelights regardless if they are CAN-BUS or not.

[IbizaMK5Pearce]

Ok I see just i brought some H7 bulbs last weekend and they didnt have the side lights however going back this weekend to pick them up he asked if i needed canbus or non canbus thats all and everyone was saying about warning lights with the canbus ones so got worried proabably safer to go with non canbus am i correct in thinking this??

[markmeus]

Depends - with LED sidelights, it wont matter if you get canbus ones or not, you will still get the bulb failure light on the dashboard. (both set will actually work)

If you are getting Ultra (501 sidelight bulbs) these are traditional incandesant bulbs - so they will not cause any bulb failure light on the dash, because they are the same as the sidelights you currently have.

[IbizaMK5Pearce]

Ok thats fantastic clears it up i think there just 501 bulbs not LEDS or anything.....canbus or non canbus whats the best pick realistically

[markmeus]

Ok thats fantastic clears it up i think there just 501 bulbs not LEDS or anything.....canbus or non canbus whats the best pick realistically

Yeah they're not LEDs - but they are pretty white. Best option without the hassel.

I've got canbus LEDs in my interior light, purely because the non canbus ones never went off - they were premanently on because they drew so little current. Canbus ones solved the problem

So based on that I'd generally reccomend canbus LED's

The other option is to just stick in any old LEDs and disable the bulb failure warning in vagcom.

[LJA]

Im so glad I found this thread,

Thanks NightFlight and all who contributed

[Pander]

Good info on here ! One thing that annoys me is the arse that coined the phrase CANBUS lights, it doesn't even have to have CAN system to know when lights are not working.

[MrTSI]

is HB4 canbus??? if i wanna changed them..... whats good to get?

[ntemis21]

is HB4 canbus??? if i wanna changed them..... whats good to get?

yep they are.

[MrTSI]

so i need to get HB4 canbus free???

[gaffer1986]

Quote:
"Brakelights - P21 / SW Long Life 380
Sidelights - P21 / 5W Long Life 380 "

Aren't the 380 bulbs the double filament bulbs? Should I be buying double filament bulbs for my tail lights?

[vmark89]

Hey guys just thought I would see if someone would kind enough to post this onto the main front page :)
The Facelift Model FR only has 1x sidelight on each side apposed to the 2x on older variants but still remains a W5W 501 unsure if it requires Can bus as I'm using Ultra Bulbs in them Currently.
Dipped and Main Beam Bulbs remain the same as H7's
The Fog's are different though :( there not H11 as the manual says and there not HB4's either as Seat tried to fit them when I collected the car and they are now HB3 as far as the service and parts manager was conserned.

[abristow]

Hi mate fantastic guide do u know what colour temperature are the factory bi xenon?

[KippeRFR]

Please Make Sure To Correct
FACELIFT FOGLIGHTS Use: H8 / H11
HB4 Doesnt Fit :] (Had To Order Twice Because Of That Mistake :))

[ntemis21]

Hi mate fantastic guide do u know what colour temperature are the factory bi xenon?

4300k

[ALEXZ360]

Does the cupra require canbus dipped beams? Because I have the H7 HID kit out of my mk4 but they are non canbus


Alex

[abristow]

Does the cupra require canbus dipped beams? Because I have the H7 HID kit out of my mk4 but they are non canbus


Alex

Yes mate I believe they have to be canbus but try it I believe each ibiza is different. I bought 2 bulbs for my reverse light so I put on 1 and I gave the other one to a friend who has a bocanegra. It works fine on mine but on his it flashes all day long... :wtf:

[abristow]

4300k

Thank u ntemi nasai kala

[ALEXZ360]

Would I be able to use canbus free sidelights for all 4 sidelights?

Would these work?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4-x-8-SMD-LED-501-T10-W5W-WEDGE-CANBUS-NO-ERROR-FREE-XENON-WHITE-SIDE-LIGHT-BULB-/290617034689?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item43aa2007c1&_uhb=1


Alex

[nightflight]

OK, now I can edit the first post.
There seems to be some disagreement on the facelift fogs..
KippeRFR says the facelift fogs are H8 / H11
vmark89 says the facelift fogs are not H11 and are HB4

Anyone able to comment further?

[ALEXZ360]

Can anyone confirm that those bulbs will work??


Alex

[nightflight]

All the pre-facelift bulbs have been confirmed as working by various people

[nightflight]

OK, now I can edit the first post.
There seems to be some disagreement on the facelift fogs..
KippeRFR says the facelift fogs are H8 / H11
vmark89 says the facelift fogs are not H11 and are HB4

Anyone able to comment further?

This should read as below..

There seems to be some disagreement on the facelift fogs..
KippeRFR says the facelift fogs are H8 / H11
vmark89 says the facelift fogs are not H11 and are HB3 (not HB4 as originally stated)


If KippeRFR and vmark89 could confirm which models they own it may be down to difference in models as per the 3 and 5dr versions having different reverse lights.

[negy]

cheers for list just ordered LED fogs and side lights

[KippeRFR]

I Own the Facelift 3dr!
Foglight bulbs are defintly H8! (H11 Also Doesnt Fit :\

[nightflight]

cheers Kipper.

[Xanthianx]

I Own the Facelift 3dr!

Have you replaced all your bulbs in the headlamps?
Am I to assume that all the bulbs listed are still correct for 2013

Also, how do I know if the bulbs are road legal/mot worthy?


For ref.
My headlamp - i.imgur.com/hlwIn5Y.jpg
Fog/Cornering Light just below in usual place.

[Xanthianx]

ps I can confirm the reg plate bulbs on a facelift FR is 2x 38mm festoon

[ntemis21]

anyone knows if 5dr facelift still has 2x R10W reverse??