Creaking noise

[LEO LION R]

I have had this looked at already by the dealer and they replaced the ARB bushes, however its come back.

It comes from the front suspension area on RHS/centre.

It is a loud noise from outside the car and fairly quiet from the inside, and only happens once the engine has been on and driven for at least 10 minutes (as if something is drying out with the heat generated?)

:cheers:

[slowv6]

This happened on mine (Aug 2001 Cupra) and it was the ARB Bushes. Great Covert replaced them with a new design and they've not creaked since. Perhaps your dealer replaced yours with new ARB Bushes of the older design, hence the creak reappears!

Take it back again and check they put the updated parts on it.

Good luck

[goble]

yup normally anti roll bar bushes have had track rod ends b4 creaking also to suspension mounts

[LEO LION R]

thanks guys, i understand what your saying but this reoccured within 1 day.

It seems to only happen when the engine is fully heated, and is more obvious on the front end in downwards movements that upwards movements.

It was checked again on saturday there and nothing found, nothing loose, all existing joints were given extra grease and its still there.

This only occured directly after it was serviced and the pads were changed - any link or coincidence ?

They have checked it 3 times now and replaced ARB bushes once and its still there- what can i do next ? :(

:cheers:

[mik]

You sure it's not your knee? ;)

My old mk2 Escort used to do this. Turned out to be the exhaust creaking against the body, but only when the engine was warm and it had expanded a little, and you were moving away.

Was quite surprised at the culprit - sounded like suspension noise from inside the car. (actually it sounded like the chassis was bending somewhere....really gave me the willies).

Worth a look :dunno:

[LEO LION R]

An update ;

It's been looked at again by the dealer, it doesn't make the noise when pressing the car up and down manually, it doesn't happen when the car is cold, it doesn't happen on all corners.

It does happen mostly on quick right hand bends when weight is lifted off the suspension and it does happen on undulating roads (crests and troughs) at speed, it does happen when the front wheels go down the end of a speed bump but not when it travelss up the speed bump.

It is getting worse so it suggests to me that a part is wearing or has dried out, even though all major parts have been checked and greased and strut bushes replaced recently.

I desperately need help to sort this out, as it's making me not enjoy driving it now, and keep thinking it's going to end in tears when cornering at speed. The dealers tried lots and found nothing and hence getting peed off too cos they dont get payed by Seat unless they actually replace something nder warranty.

Please help / advise me on this, how should i best get this sorted ?

:( :cheers:

[LEO LION R]

Also meant to say if you have got or had a similar noise you can compare it with the one i recorded and posted on THIS (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=26102&highlight=creaking) other thread a while back too.

Please help

:cheers:

[LEO LION R]

WOOHOO

I spent a bit of time tonight and traced the source of creaking myself, it appears to be coming from the top of the front suspsension/damper on drivers side.

It can be replicated by lifting some weight of the front of the car on the drivers side, then press down on the drivers side. Only at the front, if you rock the car it doesn't happen, and yet again it needs to have been on a 5mile plus trip and warm for it to happen.

Any sugestions now ?

Could a faulty damper make this noise ?

Is it more likely to be the top mount bush ?

Just got to convince the dealer now, should be hard now i've found a way to replicate it.

:cheers:

[mik]

To save you conversing with yourself further, can I just add my congrats :D

I'd suggest, since the dealer has already spent time on this and it's a warranty job, that they simply replace the whole strut and top mounts. :yes:

[LEO LION R]

To save you conversing with yourself further, can I just add my congrats :D

I'd suggest, since the dealer has already spent time on this and it's a warranty job, that they simply replace the whole strut and top mounts. :yes:

Both sides just in case ?

Better for balance isn't it :confused:

[vern]

Both sides just in case ?

Better for balance isn't it :confused:
yeah leo get both done,tell him both are noisey,@ least dealer will get paid as,they have actully replaced somthing............ ;) lol @ u found it yourself do this myself as have no confidence in the the dealers :whistle:

vern

[LEO LION R]

Cheers for the reply, i will do my best - it is defo defo the drivers side front suspension area - just don't know what part exactly - but that's their job ;) :D

[LEO LION R]

Update; new ARB bushes being fitted today.

That means the Strut bush in centre (drivers side) of car replaced and now the ARB bushes x2 replaced.

What do you recon the chances are that this fixes the creak - 50/50 maybe ?

:cheers:

[mik]

Just get them to remove the duck.

quaaaaaack

[LEO LION R]

Just get them to remove the duck.

quaaaaaack

Get them to remove you more like :bleh: ;)

Could this be like 6th time lucky :rolleyes:

[LEO LION R]

aww feckers, the noise is back again :(

what next then, arb bushes done now twice according to their work sheets - ?

Part Numbers replaced so far are ;

Mounting 1J0411314R- (twice now?)
Clip - 1J0411336D- (just the last visit)

Any ideas - anyone ? (i'm desperate and so is the dealer :redface: )

:cheers:

P.S. Cupramax, did you ever get THIS (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=352&highlight=CREEK) sorted ?

[slim_boy_fat]

Guess you could start thinking its maybe just a design fault.

send me a pm about it.

[LEO LION R]

You have PM but your in or out box is full :rolleyes:

Seems to be exact same noise fro mexact same area, and is definately on the drivers front suspension. If i lift the car once it creaks, if i them press it down it creaks. It does not creak on a second or third lift, and likewise does not creak on a second or third press either. Thsi to me suggests it is something like a fixing bracket or cover plate that gets moved once in each direction of compression or rebound ?

:cheers:

[slim_boy_fat]

You have PM but your in or out box is full :rolleyes:

Seems to be exact same noise fro mexact same area, and is definately on the drivers front suspension. If i lift the car once it creaks, if i them press it down it creaks. It does not creak on a second or third lift, and likewise does not creak on a second or third press either. Thsi to me suggests it is something like a fixing bracket or cover plate that gets moved once in each direction of compression or rebound ?

:cheers:

Might have to take off the upright yourself and have a proper look.

Funny that i only had 3 messages in my inbox last time i looked. Another brick in the wall eh! :roflmao:

Bet your popular with Jamie..

[LEO LION R]

LOL yeah he doesn't take my calls anymore ;) :D

Have you emptied your sent mail as well, it does make a differrence too :thumbup:

DIY and invalidate my warranty when it does all go back together again :-o

[slim_boy_fat]

LOL yeah he doesn't take my calls anymore ;) :D

Have you emptied your sent mail as well, it does make a differrence too :thumbup:

No seems i am driving a ford Escort popular these days. Not very many buttons to press, not nice to look at and prob about to be kicked off the road. :rolleyes:

[LEO LION R]

No seems i am driving a ford Escort popular these days. Not very many buttons to press, not nice to look at and prob about to be kicked off the road. :rolleyes:

eh ?

you have email now :D

[mik]

Just keep it pointing down the middle of the road then Slim, and resist the urge to vent road rage even when someone cuts you up on purpose.

That way you can renew your MOT and we can continue to enjoy the in-car-chats we have on here :yes:

;)

[LEO LION R]

i'm would hope that no one on the highway would be childish enough to deliberately push the wrong buttons for your FEP :thumbd:

Anyway my creaking LCR who has any idea what else can be the matter ?


:cheers:

[vern]

i'm would hope that no one on the highway would be childish enough to deliberately push the wrong buttons for your FEP :thumbd:

Anyway my creaking LCR who has any idea what else can be the matter ?


:cheers:
leo have they replaced the struts yet? sounds like the a dodgey shock to me ;)

vern

[mik]

It does sound like a dodgey (bent or rough) damper to me (no winkey smiley)

Interestingly there is a relevant thread on briskoda HERE (http://www.briskoda.net/forums/showthread.php?t=10650&highlight=front)

[LEO LION R]

Thanks, going to call the dealer today (again) and see what they suggest next, if it is just bring it in to have a look (5th time to look) then i will sponaneously combust :(

I'll suggest those things to them, but really they should be able to sus it out for themselves.

One other thing that doesn't make sense right now, is that both times that parts were replaced it came back with no noise for a week or so ? how can it be, and then appear again ?

:cheers:

[mik]

Sounds like something is bent or mis-aligned ~ lube up and / or replace bushes and it's fine for a short while....but the fact it returns suggests that something else is wrong and the creaking arb bushes are just a symptom ~ not the cause. :confused:

[slim_boy_fat]

:cheers:

[LEO LION R]

But how could i get bent without me knowing about it ?I am the only driver and i haven't hit anything hard at all, not even pot holes ? (i can't recall any to write home about anyway )

:cheers:

[slim_boy_fat]

But how could i get bent without me knowing about it ?
:cheers:

May be some one suck up and bump you from behind?

May be just been that way from the start. :D

[muddyboots]

Hehe, beat me to it Slim :clap:

[LEO LION R]

Nope not had any accidents or bumps (of a serious nature, just a daft woman at 2mph into the back, but no chance of affecting the front end)

It aws fine for 14-15 months and then after the 20k service and new pads fitted it started, no test drive of it though, the mileage remained the same.

Any other suggestions, the dealer doesn't know what to do now so is calling Milton Keynes to get more advise / see if someone can come up and check it out ?

They have identied exactly where the noise comes from previously, hence the parts replaced twice now.

:cheers:

[vern]

Leo

wonder if they jacked it up on the suspension arm,when they replaced the pads????this does bend them,this would put extra stress on the bushes etc,hence it goes away when bushes are replaced/new for a while mate,OR maybe the tyre ppl when you,ve had new rubber have done this etc,a jack in the wrong place fcuks em mate,just a thought mind,really dont understand why this has happened unless as above as done a search and you are the only one with this sort of creak traced to that area mate.

good luck

vern :thumbup:

[m0rk]

it does bend them? so surely would driving on it?

I think perhaps it's a not quite located right bush. or (harder to rectify) the thing the bush sits in (thing is hard to explain, but it's shaped & probably white) at the top of the strut.

[LEO LION R]

Possibly vern but i doubt it, everytime i've seen it in the dealers it's been on the lift extended arms.

Well it got so bad the last time i could replicate the noise by pressing the car at front and lifting it by hand (not the whole car obviously, befor emik jumps in ;) ) and so it made it easy for them to find the source of the noise.

BTW it was the ARB bushes replaced, not strut bushes.

:cheers:

P.S I noticed the fans were not coming on at their usualy 5 seconds when stationary, checked AC was on - yip, check 40 amp fuse, - it's melted again ? (last time was when it overheated and head gasket replaced all because of this fuse - WTF is going on with my LCR)

[slim_boy_fat]

BTM line is you need to have a proper look yourself and try and satisfy yourself exactly where its coming from and what has to be done. Not sure how much longer Jamie will hold out before it starts getting expensive to fix and comes out of his pocket, you might see a change of attitude then....

[LEO LION R]

BTM line is you need to have a proper look yourself and try and satisfy yourself exactly where its coming from and what has to be done. Not sure how much longer Jamie will hold out before it starts getting expensive to fix and comes out of his pocket, you might see a change of attitude then....

Erm... no it's past that point already, he doesn't get paid for investigative work unless he finds something wrong with it. Obviously there is something wrong with it and they know where abouts, but can not establish the part at fault.

They have inspected it 5 times, plus 2 visits for when parts were replaced.

Next time they may get a technical advisor up from Milton Keynes, but they recon that will cost a lot ?


:cheers: