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Bigal
08-08-2001, 10:23
I've placed my order for my Leon Cupra http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif from a dealer in Holland. I've been reading up on the whole import procedure and thought I had it covered. Now the insurance issue has raised its head.

No insurer based in the UK, apart from some Lloyds syndicate who only do a full 12 months policy which will no doubt cost a fortune, can insure an unregistered car driving on transit plates fully comp for the drive back through Holland. Not even the VIN is good enough, this is all thanks to a change in EU Law. I thought we were all one big happy European family now with free movement of goods and people http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/confused.gif

Now I know I could get the car transported back but I really wanted to do the whole experience myself, I haven't mentioned to the missus that me and a mate will be stopping in Amsterdam for the night and par taking in some of this city's hospitality http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/wink.gif

I'm trying to find out how much it will cost to get fully comp insurance on the transit plates for a day from the dealer, but has anyone got any other advice/options they could give me.

Cheers

Al



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20VT
08-08-2001, 12:15
Hmmm, it's a tricky one Al. I'm a risk taker so I'd just drive it back on the 3rd party insurance and be bloody careful!!
Did you order through Wim in the end then?

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Bigal
08-08-2001, 22:57
Can't say who I'm buying the car through, the dealer asked me not to mention him as I squeezed'em hard over the discount and got a bit more knocked off than standard http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif But a dealer in Rotterdam, haven't got their name to hand e-mail me if you want it, offered a 10% discount off the base price.

Sorry to hear your order for the Cupra4 has gone pear shaped, that really is a bitch. There's some good IT contracting work to be had in A'dam, good nightlife as well so I've been told http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/wink.gif

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Danny
18-08-2001, 17:04
Why didn't you have your car registered for UK then? I hear it has goodies http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif that are not available at your local dealers http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/frown.gif ...

...Danny

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Seat Leon Cupra TDI

Bigal
19-08-2001, 09:04
Car will be registered in the UK as soon as I can, but it can't be register until the car is physically in the UK, DVLA can ask to see the car when I register it, Bugger http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/eek.gif

In any case, the dealer has offered to deliver the car to Rotterdam port for me so I all I've got to do is ferry it back...Sweet http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif And there are a few special cafe's there...Super Sweet http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif

Danny
19-08-2001, 15:08
I think you should call those cafe's by their real name? But I admit, I see em every day (first reason to live here http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif , second is the Cupra4 now)... P.S. Need some locations in Rotterdam?

However, I misunderstood. I thought you already had taken the car to England but wanted to get it back to Holland because you couldn't register the car in England.

(I'm not English, so sometimes I don't fully understand what you guys mean http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif .)

If the car is registered on Dutch licence when you get it, U have a Dutch insurance as well. If your car get smashed by a truck on that ferry they will pay all (unless you have some degree of own risk).

...Danny

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Seat Leon Cupra TDI

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OVNIYELLOW
19-08-2001, 19:06
Bigal,
I have just paid my deposit, via electronic transfer to a dealer in Holland www.pruys.nl (http://www.pruys.nl) so hopefully on Monday (20/08/01) I should get confirmation of the receipt and an estiamted time of arrival for my Leon.
The dealer has also agreed to drive the car to Rotterdam.
I have packed it full of options and also asked for it to be supplied with the 17" V6 Cupra Alloys http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif
I reckon our cars (if you have just ordered) will be made in the same batch and should arrive at the same time.
Maybe you could take me to one or two of these Cafe's to sample some of the special Cake they have over there!!! http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/eek.gif http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/eek.gif http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif

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Lee Saville

Danny
19-08-2001, 22:17
I hope you didn't pay for those alloys because they are very stock http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif !!!

...Danny

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Seat Leon Cupra TDI

Bigal
19-08-2001, 22:29
I ordered my car a month ago and have been given a build week of 39 which is the last week in September. I hope yours does get built at the same time, the wait is killing me. Reading all the posts here, about chipping and tuning....I just want to get my hands on 'her' http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/tongue.gif

I intend to to go over on the HSS from Harwich and stop a night in Rotterdam, so Danny if you know of a good clean cheap hotel/guest house and can point me to good cafe, it would very much appreciated http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/cool.gif

Lee, if yours does get built at the same time, give us shout at allistair_scott@hotmail.com , the more the merrier http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif

Al

yorkie
19-08-2001, 23:04
Have you guys got any www links to pictures of the V6 17in alloys ?

I don't like the stock Leon "spoke" alloys and would want to spec. something else when I order my car.

Yorkie. http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/smile.gif

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ZBOYD
19-08-2001, 23:06
This image shows a Black V6, you can clearly see the wheels
http://www.seatcupra.net/images/cupra4/Cupra_black.jpg

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Mark
zboyd@seatcupra.net

Chips are nicer in Engines than with Fish.

yorkie
19-08-2001, 23:15
Cheers Mark http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif

Danny - what were you saying about not having to pay for these http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/cool.gif ?

I would want to put some on a 20VT, presumably there would be an "upgrade" charge http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/frown.gif ?


Yorkie

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rakh1
19-08-2001, 23:16
Those wheels look the dogs.... http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/eek.gif

...any idea where to get them? Cost?

Cheers - Rich

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Seat Leon 20v Cupra T
Silver and fully loaded
Shall I chip it? :)

4everfun
20-08-2001, 13:29
Pruys is a very reliable dealer here in Holland. A couple of weeks ago I bought a blue Leon Cupra v6(there is a picture on this site an soon more) from them and therefor a subaru impreza gt turbo

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pugwash
20-08-2001, 18:33
ok i want to order a car lean 110bph se tdi , would this make sense to a dutch dealer? ie are our model nos the same over there? sorry if sounds a little silly but now i am seriosly thinking obout the import rouye i need to be "puppy walked" tony

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Danny
20-08-2001, 20:57
Three replies in one message

Bigal,

I think a cheap place might suck, but I'll have a look for you. Otherwise take Novotel or so. Get some f25,- NLX from Amigo. Better not take too much 'cause Dutch P*D kicks ass!

Yorkie,

As for those alloys: They are stock on the Cupra4 V6 and Cupra4 TDI. That's the AWD version.

You guys seem to have our 20VT sport spec sold as a cupra (If some dealer here would try to sell that car to me instead of real C4, I'd kick his ass and then have his head smashed by the bonnet http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif ).

I don't know if you guys get the same bumpers. But I don't assume that since Flapper is trying to sell 'em here.

We furthermore got a 20VT sport4, which has AWD. And you can chip it getting more faster than the C4 V6. Would be a nice subject for those bumpers flapper is selling.

Some info on the Dutch Cupra4:

-17"225 5-spoke Alloys/Michelin pilot tires
-TDI 150 HP/320 NM (Nice subject for tuning: 180+HP/420Nm==V6 like) or V6 204 HP/270 NM
-0-100kmh: TDI 9s and V6 7,3s
-topSpd: TDI 211 and V6 235
-transm: 6-speed, AWD using Haldex (www.haldex-traction.com) 60%front 40%rear (damn! Rather see that reversed)
-Nice bumpers Like on the red one above. (That a cupra4 as well)
-Half-Leather Recaro's having 'CUPRA' spelled all over it(!). IN THE BACK IDEM!!! Better, the rest (doors etc) is leather as well
-Radio 4x20W with 8 speakers... I'm VERY impressed!!! Seems like at least 4x50! VERY Pure Sound. The radio even automaticly increases volume when you accelerate in speed. Very neat!
-Security: Immobiliser, alarm + ultrasonic (not sure about the latter two)
-ESP ABS TCS and stuff, though ESP and ABS both sucks!
-Very big brakes (front fill up all 17")
-The C4 seems to have a somewhat bigger chassis too!

Some disadvantages (my experiences):
-Midconsole (part where stereo/nav is installed) a bit wide. You'll hurt your knee when your Recaro is in race mode.
-My Recaro sqeaks a bit after having it for 3 weeks now (damn!).
-Haldex seems a bit to 'laggy' sometimes (due to SEAT/VW offcourse, Haldex itself is stunning). Thats not AWD! So don't floor to fast in tight cornering. Otherwise direct FWD understeer (on my TDI)!
-ESP sucks!
-Cruelty to clean that yellow color.
-FAST BRAKE-FADING (is this English?). After 3 times hard braking you'll get ALOTA fading. And the ABS kicks in very early, just like that ESP bull. Safe? But I assume that's just due to a poor cooling system.

4everfun,

BLUE leon? It seems that's previous year's spec.! You might get phoned to by your dealer and have you told that the new colours are yellow, red and black.

Oh, stupid me (hehehe www.cupra.nl, (http://www.cupra.nl,) of niet soms?) Is it a new one, or second-hand afterall (you didn't mentioned that). I'd prefer that blue colour as well, but too late, got the yellow on the parking already! Maybe you can tell 'em some more about that V6?

...Danny


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Seat Leon Cupra TDI

[Message edited by Danny on 20 August 2001.]

Bigal
20-08-2001, 21:05
Pugwash,

visit Seat UK (http://www.seat.co.uk) get the model details of the Leon you want and get in touch with Wim at wim@pruys.nl asking for a quote on a model which best matches the details you supplied from the UK Seat website. Also take a look at Seat Holland (http://www.seat.nl) to get an idea of the model range for the Leon in Holland.

You may well find that you have to add on certain options to bring it upto UK spec, but you may also find you'll get other standard features on the Dutch cars which aren't available on the UK cars.

Wim is very helpful and appears to have dealt with quite a few of the members here, a ringing endorsement http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/smile.gif So I'm sure some of the guys here can give some more sound advice.

Al
8 weeks to go....


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pugwash
20-08-2001, 21:40
thanks bigal, i will look at both sites any one imported a tdi?any one give me any leads what to look for?

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4everfun
20-08-2001, 22:06
Danny, the car is 4 months old. I bought it form the director of Seat over here. He ordered a blue one and got it. Now the car is only in black, yellow and red

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mik
21-08-2001, 08:43
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pugwash:
thanks bigal, i will look at both sites any one imported a tdi?any one give me any leads what to look for?

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Pugwash,

Currently waiting for mine, and my father imported one a few months back (both from Holland....can give you dealers details if you like (it's not the one quoted above)). Ask any questions you like.

I had intended to get the car trailered to my door to save any hassle, but spoke to "my man" yesterday....he supplies Dutch plates free-of-charge, and offers 15-day pan-European insurance for only £50....Advantage there is that you can drive it about in UK on these plates/insurance 'til you get UK registration sorted.....

Cheers,
Mik


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mik
21-08-2001, 08:44
(double post)


[Message edited by mik on 21 August 2001.]

Bigal
21-08-2001, 09:58
Milk,

is the insurance 3rd party or fully comp?

Personal choice here I know, but I wouldn't chance running around on 3rd party insurance after splashing out 12K. I'm a firm believer in Murphy's Law No.3 "Anything that can go wrong will go wrong" http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/frown.gif

Al
8 Weeks to go....

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[Message edited by Bigal on 21 August 2001.]

yorkie
21-08-2001, 10:20
Al,

What's the insurance situation while the motor is on the ferry ? Are you covered on your UK insurance at that point or do the ferry operators provide cover ?

For example, using Murphy's Law number 3, what would happen if you drove onto the ferry and smacked into the car infront http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/tongue.gif ?

Yorkie

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mik
21-08-2001, 11:56
Al~

It's fully comp....wouldn't trust 3rd party either.

PS - Milk?? http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/rolleyes.gif

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Bigal
21-08-2001, 12:05
Yorkie,

you raise a very important point. I could well be very wrong here, but from what I understand you may find that your UK insurance is only valid once upon UK territory, does this include UK owned ferry's????.

You'll probably find that the ferry company will not be liable for any damage unless it can be proved that they were negible, like it sinking http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/wink.gif

But I do know you can get insurance to cover the journey whilst on the ferry, I haven't found out how much yet.

If you really are concerned about it, and not just taking the piss out of me http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif I can certainly find out more. Unless of course someone here can further clarify this.

Al


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Bigal
21-08-2001, 12:09
Mik,

can you get hold of the details for the insurance company that do this. I would seriously be interested, I've told by Wim that it will cost 300 nlg's just for 3rd party.

Al

ps..sorry about the 'Milk'..dodgy fingers on the old keyboard




[Message edited by Bigal on 21 August 2001.]

pugwash
21-08-2001, 13:01
thanks for everyones help so much to take in.
mik, yes please how is your dealer? whats the spec ,price etc .question..... if dealer gets car to dock ,how do you know there to go to get it ? also whats the timing like to fly out get car ,get ferry, then what happens?drive home? or to the vat man? or the dvlc? when do you pay for the car? do the dvlc charge any thing? sorry i think i have over stated my inexperience! http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/confused.gif

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Bigal
21-08-2001, 13:34
Pugwash,

whilst there is a great wealth of info on the internet and from the members here about car importing, sometimes just reading it from a book, mag etc helps.

There is a magazine called...wait for it...Car Importing, you'll find it at WHSmith's etc, not cheap at £3.50 but you will find the information you need to get you started

Al

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[Message edited by Bigal on 21 August 2001.]

OVNIYELLOW
21-08-2001, 22:46
Paying VAT on an import:

Contact your local VAT office in advance of collecting your import (ring direct enquiries for the phone number)

Request 'Notice 728' this is a booklet that explains all the procedures and information you need on paying VAT on an import.
Also, request 'Form VAT415' this is what you need to fill in that lets the VAT people know the details of the vehicle you have obtained and how much they will invoice you.

The VAT office will post these to your address and it all seems fairly straight forward.

For more info on paying VAT after bringing a nice new Seat into the country, check out www.hmce.gov.uk (http://www.hmce.gov.uk)

Hope this has been some help!
http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/rolleyes.gif

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Lee Saville

OVNIYELLOW
21-08-2001, 23:01
To register your car when you have got it home:

Find out the location of your nearest DVLA office ( also obtainable from direct enquiries)

Take along all the info on your new car, including the certificate of conformity that the dealer will supply you with, The chassis/VIN number on your car, and the invoice/receipt from the dealer.

Pay them the registration fee and you will be issued with a new registration, then go to Halfords or somewhere similair and get some nice new format plates made up!

Oh, and of course, get it insured!!!!! And get a nice Cat 1 Clifford alarm fitted coz the standard security systems are pants!!! http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif

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Lee Saville

mik
22-08-2001, 10:11
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by pugwash:

mik, yes please how is your dealer? whats the spec ,price etc .question..... if dealer gets car to dock ,how do you know there to go to get it ? also whats the timing like to fly out get car ,get ferry, then what happens?drive home? or to the vat man? or the dvlc? when do you pay for the car? do the dvlc charge any thing? sorry i think i have over stated my inexperience! http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/confused.gif

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Flippin eck!

My dealer is fine, but my route to him was a little convoluted...so I don't want to name him on here. (If you've read my previous posts you may be able to work out why....(whooo..a mystery)).

I can give you details if you can post an email address. (Or send me an email at michaeldaniel@hotmail.com).

My dealer is close (50miles) to Amsterdam, but does not offer delivery to dock. I had fully intended to get Aberdeen Trailers to pick the car up and deliver to my door (like ny Dad did), but am now in two minds...

Dealer offers plates FOC, and also 15-day (fully comp) pan-european insurance for £50 (ish).

I can get Easyjet to Amsterdam, then Ferry from Amsterdam to Newcastle, and save myself a few pounds....but then delivery date to dealer is always a little "wooly", so you haev to book late....so maybe no savings after all (?)

I'm more interested however in the fact that I'll be able to drive it in UK as soon as I get it (on transit plates / 15-day pan-euro insurance)....otherwise it sits in your drive for another 3-5 days waiting for UK registration whispering "drive me!" every time you look at it.

Dealer takes 15% deposit up-front ~ balance when car arrives @ him. You pay UK VAT when you register the car (which costs about £30).

Bigal - my "man" made it clear the insurance was a special deal....I'll ask but I'm not sure he'll divulge his source!


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Bigal
22-08-2001, 10:46
That would be great if you could this info Mik as I really wanted to collect the car myself...being all part of the experience and getting my arse over there as soon as I get the word that the car has been delivered, rather than waiting for it to be delivered to Rotterdam.

But if he won't divulge then fair enough http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/frown.gif

Al

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pugwash
23-08-2001, 06:24
done it , i have now ordered car through wim, 110bhp tdi fully loaded with all the toys for £10600+vat phew what a saving. i intent to go and pick up car myself then it ready, so i read in close intrest the issues on insurance for abroad . i have asked wim if he can get me insurance for the ride home i will post his responce thanks tony http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/cool.gif

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OVNIYELLOW
23-08-2001, 22:15
I placed an order with Wim for a 20VT last week and I have also had problems with insurance.

All that Wim (pronounced Vim!) could provide was 3rd party for 350 NLG. But he has promised to get the car to Hoek van Holland which is the Europort near Rotterdam on the day I collect. All I have to do then is drive it onto the ferry and then Home from Hull.

I have spoken to P&O ferries and they have told me that accidents on the ferry are almost unheard of and that private cars go on a lower deck wher it is safer than 'Cargo' cars that go on a top deck.

I am a bit worried about having only 3rd party but I'm gonna chance it knowing that I won't have to drive it from Groningen in a foreign country on the wrong side of the road!!

I have paid my deposit via electronic bank transfer in Euro's and am waiting for Wim to get back to me with the production week it will be built in.

By the way, you will have to E-mail Wim a photo of your passport so he can issue the temporary Dutch plates.

Hope this has been some help
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Lee Saville

pugwash
23-08-2001, 22:26
cheers lee , "vim" has quote me 400NLG for 3rd party ins, and also quoted all prices in local(nlg), not it should make much differance?? i still intend to pick car up my self with prehaps a night on the town with two friends http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/wink.gif thanks for tip on pass port i will do that before he asks for it

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mik
24-08-2001, 11:16
Big sorry guys....just spoke to my dealer again and it looks like our wires got crossed somewhere in the translation....

My dealer's insurance quotation is for 3rd party only http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/confused.gif http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/mad.gif http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/confused.gif

200dg for 15-day pan-Euro cover, so cheaper than Wim. (that sounds like an advertising slogan for a cleaning product).

I've sent an email asking whether fully-comp is available.....will let you know.

Checked www.carimporting.co.uk (http://www.carimporting.co.uk) ~ none of the companies they list will do it either (although "A-Z" and "Greenlight" can do it if you take out 12-month cover with them http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/rolleyes.gif )

I'll post a query on Scoobynet / Evo .....see if anyone can help.

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yorkie
24-08-2001, 14:13
The www.honestjohn.co.uk (http://www.honestjohn.co.uk) site (Bloke who has a column in the Saturday Telegraph) recommends a company called Footman James http://www.footmanjames.co.uk/ for sorting out insurance from dealer to UK.

See section g of http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/pages/4_FAQ'S/faq_answers/faq_answer03.php

I haven't called them so don't know if they still provide this service or how much it costs. Might be worth a call though....


Yorkie.


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mik
27-08-2001, 10:08
Yorkie,

Thanks for the link.....everyone is on flippin bank holiday though...grrr.



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mik
28-08-2001, 10:46
Footman James won't do it either (unless again you take out a 12-month policy with them.

My current company (Admiral) will cover me once car arrives back in UK before it has been UK registered, but not between dealer and ferry company. http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/confused.gif http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/mad.gif http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/confused.gif

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Bigal
28-08-2001, 12:01
Yup Mik, this is why I started this topic, bloody frustrating isn't it. The only places that will offer you insurance from dealer to door will only do a 12 month policy but the prices are not competitive.

So what to do, meet the dealer at Rotterdam and ferry it back, or just have a car transporter deliver it. I'll be going for the ferry journey http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif At least I'll get to meet my dealer and check the documentation etc.

Al



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mik
28-08-2001, 12:58
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Bigal:
Yup Mik, this is why I started this topic, bloody frustrating isn't it.
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YES it bloody well is!

I was all set on getting Aberdeen Trailers to bring it back for me 'til you started all this though! http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/wink.gif

My dealer is only 60 miles from Amsterdam, and I'd be going for the Amsterdam-Newcastle ferry. So only 60 miles on 3rd party....but on the wrong side of the road in Holland........hmmmm....can't decide....!

I might ask my dealer to drive it to the dock....but I don't really want him humping it in the 1st 60 miles of its life.....and he might want something for it...and being in Amsterdam who knows what that might entail! http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/eek.gif

Once you get it here, you have transfer plates and 3rd-party pan-euro cover, and possibly fully comp uk-only cover (against chassis no). Can you then drive it without UK road tax?

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Bigal
28-08-2001, 15:53
You can only drive without car tax from the ferry back to your home or where you are going to store until it is taxed and registered. You could even drive it without the transit plates back home from the ferry. Old Bill may stop you as you're not driving with any plates at all, but it is legal, check it out with your local DVLA if you don't believe me http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/rolleyes.gif I just want that to happen so I can give Mr.Plod two fingers http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/tongue.gif http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/tongue.gif http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/tongue.gif oh and go pass some speed camera's at touch above the speed limit http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/wink.gif

If I get my dealer to drive it down to Rotterdam, I'll ask for the cost of the transit plates to be taken off, or set against the charge for driving it down to Rotterdam. But he did say driving it down wouldn't cost to much at all.

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[Message edited by Bigal on 28 August 2001.]

yorkie
28-08-2001, 15:58
Mik,

Can't you take out an annual policy with someone who will provide cover from a dealer, do the journey and then cancel the insurance and get a refund for the remainder of the policy term ?

Mind you, thought I heard something about a new law/rule(??) that stopped you cancelling motor insurance mid-term ????

Yorkie


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Bigal
28-08-2001, 16:03
Already got this answer on this one Yorkie.

If you cancel the policy within a week they will keep anywhere between 2 to 3 months of the value of the policy. So it can work out to be pretty expensive way of doing it.


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mik
28-08-2001, 16:28
Yoinks! You guys is devious

So even if you go and get it, you have to tax it in the UK before you can drive around....

And to tax it, you have to have it UK registered....

The Aberdeen Trailers option is starting to look more appealing again.... http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/frown.gif

So how many days ahead of UK arrival do you think you can submit your UK registration application? Bearing in mind they can demand to see the car (but unlikely surely)......not that you guys will have thought of this http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/rolleyes.gif

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yorkie
28-08-2001, 17:27
I wouldn't even go there Mik!

some guys on the uk.rec.car.imports newsgroup (or whatever it's called) did pre-register their imports but it's very dodgey and if your had a stack in Holland and your insurer found out then it's null and void time - back to square one.

Yorkie.


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Bigal
28-08-2001, 19:42
You get it taxed and registered at the same time.

I did read that your local DVLA office can issue your registration number there and then and its then off down to Halfords to get 'em made up. Not quite sure how true that is, I'll phone my one in Chelmsford tomorrow to find out and let you know.

Though with the new registration system, when you go to get your plates made you must show that you own the vehicle that your're getting the plates made up for AND on the bottom of the plates must be the name of the company making up the plates with their post code. This is all to help with car fraud, yeah right....jeez if they forge a £20 note, I don't think they'll have too much trouble with a number plate http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/rolleyes.gif

Don't really fancy driving around with plates showing Halfords on them, that would just scream 'Imported Car' will see if my local Seat garage are willing to make some up for me and throw in a tax disc holder. This will all help when it comes time to sell http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/smile.gif

Al

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[Message edited by Bigal on 28 August 2001.]

Bigal
29-08-2001, 10:25
Just spoke to DVLA and whoever wrote, I can't find the article now http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/frown.gif, that they issue your registration there and then was talking bollocks.

It can take up to 10 working days http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/frown.gif http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/frown.gif But the operator did inform me that at Chelmsford, the local DVLA I'll be using, it will take a maximum of 5 working days. So for those of you who will be getting your car soon, give your local DVLA a call, its really Swansea, and the operator can tell you your max wait time for your registration number.

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mik
29-08-2001, 12:40
Just to give you some reassurance.....my father applied on the Monday afternoon - everything was ready for Friday morning.

(Car did however sit in the garage for 4 days winking and whispering "c'mon...drive me!" every time the garage door was opened)

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andyb
29-08-2001, 17:57
Glad I found this site, found out quite a bit which i hadnt read on the seatimport mail group,,,

I'm also with Admiral and told much the same, although I read in Autocar a few weeks ago that this rule would be changing in October. Admiral say it isnt!

Didnt realise that the Alarm is not as per the UK. I was told that the Alarm was standard and niavely thought it would be the same.

Also didnt realise you had to wait for the registration. Does that mean you have to go back down there (Portsmouth in mycase) when its ready, ot does it come in the post?

Bigal - did you find out if your local Seat dealer would do your plates. I only discovered this fact a couple of days ago. I know a friend of a friend of a Seat Sales manager, so I might have some luck come October when my car should be ready.


Anyway, thanks all

AndyB

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Leon 110TDi SE on order

Bigal
29-08-2001, 20:50
AndyB

I guess the registration comes through the post. Someone here must be able to tell us

I can't see why my local Seat dealer shouldn't make the plates up, I'm sure the parts department would do it and charge accordingly.

Time will tell, I've now got about 6 weeks till I get my car.

Al

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yorkie
29-08-2001, 21:53
AndyB,

I see you live in Aldershot, I'm in Ash and I thought that our local reg. office was Reading (bit closer than Pompy).

On the insurance front, this months Which Car has a little article about the insurance from continental dealer saga. Some Euro MEP has prepared a document which recommends that any EU citizen can pickup a new motor in another member state and be insured from collection time by an insurer based in their own country. Great stuff! But the footnote states that it's unlikely to be become law until 2003/4 ! Arse....

Yorkie.


[Message edited by yorkie on 29 August 2001.]

andyb
29-08-2001, 22:25
Yorkie- Your right, but I'm moving to Andover in about five-six weeks!

Like Al, I'm also about six weeks away from getting the car. Thanks to the Seat Import mailing list I discovered that week 38 and 39 are earmarked for RHD production, so lots of Leons will be entering the UK in October!

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Bigal
30-08-2001, 08:44
If we've got all these RHD Leon's being built in weeks 38 & 39 and I'm sure Wim must have quite a few of these, perhaps we can get together and get him to hire a car transporter and ship'em all down to Rotterdam?

Just a thought.

Al

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andyb
30-08-2001, 11:17
i'm afraid I'm getting mine from NCT in Uterecht

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Leon 110TDi SE on order

OVNIYELLOW
30-08-2001, 12:06
I am also hoping that my car is gonna be produced in week 38.
I am still waiting for Wim to confirm this, but like you say, he does do a lot of business with people like us from the UK so he will have a lot of RHD cars kicking about in October.
He has agreed to get the car to Rotterdam which means I have to spend a full day there.
I'm sure I will find things to do for the day!!! http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/eek.gif

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Bigal
30-08-2001, 13:35
Well thats two of us who should be getting our cars at roughly the same time.

So how many cars does it take to fill up a transporter? 10-12 at a guess.

Keep in touch Lee, maybe we'll be in Rotterdam at the same time.

Al

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20VT
05-09-2001, 11:33
Bit of a cross post this one, but just to let y'all know I'm getting another 20VT from Wim and I'd be interested to hear if you've received production/delivery dates yet?
What's the latest consensus on insurance/transporters etc?
I know I'm a bit mad but I'm tempted to just drive it through Holland, etc myself - the roads are empty over there in any case http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/smile.gif
TIA

20VT
05-09-2001, 11:54
On the registration front, you used to get the reg number and tax disc there and then, but the last import we registered (my Leon last January) the wife had to leave all the documents and we got them back the NEXT day with the new number and tax disc.
The Mrs got stopped this time for driving with 'strange number plates'. Women eh, they can't even avoid a luminous Range Rover http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/wink.gif
Last time I got stopped was in an Impreza STI after been chased by a guy on a motorbike http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif Come to think of it I got stopped a few times in that car http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/biggrin.gif
Anyway, all you get is a producer so not too much to worry about....

OVNIYELLOW
05-09-2001, 12:26
Hello Marc,

Wim still hasn't got back to me yet, but I hope it is gonna be week 38 like he estimated.

I went to DVLA in Leeds yesterday and picked up all the relevant forms for registering and paying VAT.

I require a certificate of insurance to register my motor, but I'm sure my (and others) Insurance company said they wouldn't insure an un-registered car??!!! or maybe that was just the short journey in Holland?

Anyway, keep us updated and keep in touch.

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mik
05-09-2001, 14:28
My car is due to be built wk37 http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/smile.gif

Your insurance co will cover you against chassis no once its in the country.


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Bigal
05-09-2001, 16:24
Week 37...you lucky git...I've got to wait till week 39, and believe me, at the moment that feels like a bleeding lifetime, especially as I have to ride a push bike till I get her http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/frown.gif ah feck

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