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as above brought some coilovers of a member on here who has been a member for years and posts alot of sensible post when i brought them they asked me to pay through paypal as a gift i did as i thought he was a genuine member now had them fitted today and there broke what can i do:(
as above brought some coilovers of a member on here who has been a member for years and posts alot of sensible post when i brought them they asked me to pay through paypal as a gift i did as i thought he was a genuine member now had them fitted today and there broke what can i do:(
Ouch - would suggest contacting via PM to sort out, and if he is unreasonable or abrasive, and you think you've been turn over....NAME AND SHAME so others dont fall foul....IMHO:shrug:
just spoke to this person and there not willing to do anything what to do now
the person i from was Dale gt
cuprakemp
09-11-2010, 18:45
name and shame
as above brought some coilovers of a member on here who has been a member for years and posts alot of sensible post when i brought them they asked me to pay through paypal as a gift i did as i thought he was a genuine member now had them fitted today and there broke what can i do:(
Please PM me with details of what exactly is wrong with the coilovers and copies of all PMs between you and the vendor.
as above brought some coilovers of a member on here who has been a member for years and posts alot of sensible post when i brought them they asked me to pay through paypal as a gift i did as i thought he was a genuine member now had them fitted today and there broke what can i do:(
Forgot to add never pay by gift unless you are 100% confident with the seller as u have zero protection, rather pay the 4% extra to cover fees ( think it's still about that )
Hope u get sorted Jinxy
Pretty much, you're bollocksed
But you can stalk him & generally get on his tits
http://www.facebook.com/dalelufc?v=info
tel: 07939968554
email: dalelufc@gmail.com
Hi guys i am posting on here as i dont want people thinking i am in hiding.
He already has my number and email address, i am not going to comment on the matter on a open forum as the admin are involved now.
Thanks
Dale
And m0rk i would appreciate if you would delete my facebook page, thanks
turbo009
10-11-2010, 10:25
First of all Dale is great lad and not out to rip any c*nt off! If they was "Sold as seen" nothing you can do bout it! Its like when you buy a car from Ebay Or PH if they have put sold as seen and you buy it,get down the road and it fcks up you cant go running back to them...
Not saying,but how do people know you not broke them yourself?
Sticky in the Classifieds Sections (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=247473)
Please be aware then when sending money to someone, if they ask to be paid via gift to avoid the fees that you have no insurance or comeback with PayPal.
So if the item never arrives, is broken, not as described or they send you a swine flu infected pig, there is nothing you can do about it.
Obviously most people are trust worthy and you can buy from them without a worry. But just use some common sense. They might be genuine but just think before you send the money..
https://www.paypal-marketing.co.uk/sendmoney/send_to_a_friend.htm
A few people have been caught out already. So just a heads up guys.
We don't post stuff like this for nothing.........
TubbyTwo
10-11-2010, 11:50
2 key points here:
1 - sold as seen
2- m0rks paypal post in the for sale section.
3. I would expect SCN vendors to act in a caring and reasonable manner if their purchaser has a problem with the supplied goods.
i would just like to say i have not said a bad word about Dale GT i only brought the coilovers from him as he had lost of post and seemed genuine
i brought the coilovers in aparently a good working condition. I believe that they are not sold as seen if this is not stated on the advert and the fact that I have not seen them, i was told they were in working order so when i had them fitted to my car by a garage i was expecting them to be in a working order that is were my problem is (advertising something that is in good condition then when i receive it its not).
To be fair they were advertised as "used" and I'm afraid it is very much buyer beware when buying unseen from an individual . DaleGT does state that he only bought them himself 3 weeks ago - perhaps he didn't realise they were faulty and has actually been stiffed himself.
However I would expect a forum member to stand by goods they sell.
Wullie1984
14-11-2010, 20:10
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mrvavavoom
14-11-2010, 23:33
To be fair they were advertised as "used" and I'm afraid it is very much buyer beware when buying unseen from an individual . DaleGT does state that he only bought them himself 3 weeks ago - perhaps he didn't realise they were faulty and has actually been stiffed himself.
However I would expect a forum member to stand by goods they sell.
or maybe he knew they were faulty and tried to off load them as working order
do the decent thing and give the poor lad his money back after all we are a community;)
Ibiza 09
16-11-2010, 14:38
whats the latest on this
whats the latest on this
Stirrer:p
dalegolf215
16-11-2010, 16:13
come on tell us we're all nosey tw4ts lol
or maybe he knew they were faulty and tried to off load them as working order
do the decent thing and give the poor lad his money back after all we are a community;)
Agreed m8;)
andycupra
16-11-2010, 16:50
First of all Dale is great lad and not out to rip any c*nt off! If they was "Sold as seen" nothing you can do bout it! Its like when you buy a car from Ebay Or PH if they have put sold as seen and you buy it,get down the road and it fcks up you cant go running back to them...
Not saying,but how do people know you not broke them yourself?
actually selling something sold as seen does not clear yourself from any comeback or liability.
and in particular what was and wasnt said between the parties can have a major impact in liability.
For example if someone asked if its was in good condition or if there was any fault, then selling sold as seen provides no protection if the goods are clearly faulty if the seller did not declare a clear issue when the enquiry was made.
These appear to have been advertised as in good working order, and so if the fault is clear (and not a difficult hard to find fault) then the seller should refund.
So what we really need to know is what is the fault with them?
I also think that seemingly potentially referring to someone as a c*** is uncalled for. - Especially as the guy who has lost out appears to talking the selling up rather than slating him.
actually selling something sold as seen does not clear yourself from any comeback or liability.
and in particular what was and wasnt said between the parties can have a major impact in liability.
For example if someone asked if its was in good condition or if there was any fault, then selling sold as seen provides no protection if the goods are clearly faulty if the seller did not declare a clear issue when the enquiry was made.
These area to have been advertised as in good working order, and so if the fault is clear (and not a difficult hard to find fault) then the seller should refund.
So what we really need to know is what is the fault with them?
Some good points made here m8, IMO the sale should be reversed, all this sold as seen sh@t is bollix[:@] Dale do the right thing refund and get ur goods back :blink:
andycupra
16-11-2010, 17:20
Selling known faulty goods to anyone if horrid, - to a fellow forum member its horrid and stupid.
One thing people forget about forums is how a form of bond exist between members, people can be amazingly helpful and back people to the hilt where they are hard done by. Being a member will not protect you from this if you act like a twat, in many eyes a forum member pissing on another is ripping people off on a whole new level and is an insult to the idea of a forum itself.*
*i would like to highlight i have stated selling 'known' faulty goods and this is a general comment referring to no particular case or incidence.
the problem is that 2 coilovers are seized so cannot adjust and one of the rears just popped up through the back
Iv not any thing from Dale GT so i think iv lost the money:cry:
the problem is that 2 coilovers are seized so cannot adjust and one of the rears just popped up through the back
Iv not any thing from Dale GT so i think iv lost the money:cry:
Fookin disgrace m8, sorry youve been turned over, how can seized coilers be sold as seen?? U can't see there seized.. Dale gt take your sh1t back and gie the lad his money back ..
Chunt of the highest order imo[:@]
CraigLEON
17-11-2010, 11:36
Plus if the sellers argument is that you could have broken them by fitting them incorrectly, then sorry but they are not seized because of being fitted incorrectly. More like they have been sitting in his shed or back garden for years in the weather. At the least i would hope he would cut his lossed and at least give you half back, if not all the money. Good luck!!
didnt offer any money back im pretty disapointed really, he didnt even apologise about them, let alone offer any money back[:@]
phantom1
17-11-2010, 13:24
This dale gt sounds bent as a 2 bob note, got any seized coilovers for sale dale? If so send em thru the mail, if they are unseized I'm going to cry like a whale lol
dalegolf215
17-11-2010, 15:03
it says in the advert hes only had them 3 weeks himself
did he buy them from another member??
maybe theres 2 people that have done over on this forum???
it says in the advert hes only had them 3 weeks himself
did he buy them from another member??
maybe theres 2 people that have done over on this forum???
This could well be true and probally is but i did buy them from dale GT.........
Cant you open a paypal dispute?
Or does the "gift" part rule this out?
Cant you open a paypal dispute?
Or does the "gift" part rule this out?
Why would Paypal be interested in one person giving the other money? Gifts do not involve any exchange of goods for money. ;)
Opened plenty disputes in the past.. thats all :)
hence why the classifieds section has a post outlining the risks of using 'gift' as a form of paypal payment
i do understand that i should have paid straight threw paypal not as a give my mistake for paying as a gift
Kind of makes you wonder why he wanted it sent as gift in the first place :(
ibiza_95
18-11-2010, 11:44
not really? he just more than likely didnt want to pay the fees!?
not really? he just more than likely didnt want to pay the fees!?
I understand that ;)
My point is no fee's means no come back for the buyer, as has happened in this case. Any decent genuine seller IMO would accept the fees or ask that the buyer covers them by sending the deducted amount as a gift payment afterwards.
Ibiza 09
31-01-2011, 22:57
whats the latest on this now???
it says in the advert hes only had them 3 weeks himself
did he buy them from another member??
maybe theres 2 people that have done over on this forum???
Or could have known they were seized, and the 3 week stuff is him laying foundations for his 'get out of jail free card' besides who buys coilovers and sells less than 3 weeks later ( unless they know summat ) :whistle:
IMO if seized they were like that when they came from dodgy Dale so he has an obligation to refund, dirty Chunt IMO of course:banned:
whats the latest on this now???
Stirrer:D
Nothing he scammed me the :censored:ing C*** [:@][:@]
Nothing he scammed me the :censored:ing C*** [:@][:@]
How?
I mean - I gave you his address.... you just need to look for it
He works here - http://www.boxfashion.co.uk/ - so now you have his work address, and phone number - hell you can work out the other address is his missus.
Wakefield shop address:
10 Little Westgate, Wakefield, West Yorkshire, WF1 1JY
Phone: 01924 373477 Fax: 01924 373477
Email: dale@boxfashion.co.uk
Seems to me you're too lazy to actually get your money back
Im not gonna start trouble i have no leg to stand on legally and im not gonna get my money back if me and a few boys go to his house or work place just gotta take it with a pinch of salt now and forget about it:(
Just phone him then. He's probably just forgotten to send it to you.
Like I said... lazy
He hasnt forgotten he already told me that he was not going to give me a refund when i rang him in anger all the times I did not much more I could of done I did try and get my money back I really did
What was actually wrong with them then? Adjusters seized and what else? Adjusterwise you can get them free, just takes abit of work,thought you woulda tried before going and getting them fitted or even asked if they adjusted freely before buying them? Can they not just be run at the height they are set to? Shame people cant just be honest.
how much did you pay then? if it was hundreds then yeh, i want me money back but if it was cheap as chips, put it down to experience and move on
I brought the coilovers in a used but working condition which tells me they aint seized up to f***
iv taken them to 3 different garages and non of them can unseize Dale who I brought them from will not refund me or even offer anything he said i could of seized them(I dont think so) and I paid around £130-150
Not really worth me traveling to his though
Not really worth me traveling to his though
Might change your mind when you see his missus:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001816306673#!/profile.php?id=549738160
iv taken them to 3 different garages and non of them can unseize Dale
Not laughing at your misfortune dude but every time I read your post that is all I see
Does suck that you've been rumped though.
Worse case of seized adjusters on coilies, you just cut the adjusters off and get new adjuster rings, which arnt expensive. If your not confident to cut them off yourself the. An engineering shop wouldn't charge much at all, it'd take them a few minutes.
The threads not god on the coiovers either iv brought new now
Might change your mind when you see his missus:
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001816306673#!/profile.php?id=549738160
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
one of the best things i've read on here, well done si!
lawrieIbizaMk4
10-02-2011, 18:39
I thnk this call for mass text/facebook harrassment?
lawrieIbizaMk4
10-02-2011, 18:39
and then a drive to his...first dibs on his missus
BIGG addicted
10-02-2011, 19:05
Sorry to hear your misfortune mate. It is a shame this has happened. Can I just say though, why post his personal details and more personally his girlfriends Facebook. Who has nothing to do with this? Admittedly it's a social network, but if I had someone post ma bird up and makin comments i'd come too there house and rip there f*ckin throat out![:@]
It's not posting anything that EVERYone else could do too.
Want me to do you? I've had pizza's delivered for people before on here to teach them a lesson in putting information on the internet
BIGG addicted
10-02-2011, 19:43
It's not posting anything that EVERYone else could do too.
Want me to do you? I've had pizza's delivered for people before on here to teach them a lesson in putting information on the internet
Yeh mork i understand it's something 'anyone' can do but personally someone doing it, in my opinion has a hint of bullying and harrasement to it. What do you mean 'do to you'? If this as aimed at myself, I would ask firstly what have I done? And secondly I think my first post has answered my feelings on these things? If you didn't mean to me then I did not pick up what you meant?
I'm sure that the balance of taking money off someone balances out somewhere where his publically available information is gathered.
CBA to read the rest of your post
BIGG addicted
10-02-2011, 20:02
:rolleyes: no bother
lawrieIbizaMk4
10-02-2011, 20:36
I think mork has every right to do so...graeme, if someone ripped you off would you prefer that they got off lightly? or would you prefer to know you had the sympathy and support of fellow forum members?
The whole point of putting up his birds details is to encourage him to resolve the matter in some shape or form and then (i'm sure) mork would consider removing the info.
lawrieIbizaMk4
10-02-2011, 20:44
...and to add further, it is clear to see in the for sale and wanted section, people who try and rip other people are named and shamed in the users to avoid sticky.
BIGG addicted
10-02-2011, 21:50
Lawrie listen mate, I know what your saying and I agree it's poor that the guy wouldn't refund. Personally I feel it's a step too far giving out phone numbers etc. Lawrie cud u imagine ur mrs being put up on a public forum and comments being made under these circumstances? Me nd u get on great bud it's not a dig at anyone personally. But maybe this guy genuinely didn't know they were damaged, on the other hand maybe he did, but his gf isn't anything to do with it, and randomers phoning up his telephone giving abuse may unsettle not only him but his family
Lawrie listen mate, I know what your saying and I agree it's poor that the guy wouldn't refund. Personally I feel it's a step too far giving out phone numbers etc. Lawrie cud u imagine ur mrs being put up on a public forum and comments being made under these circumstances? Me nd u get on great bud it's not a dig at anyone personally. But maybe this guy genuinely didn't know they were damaged, on the other hand maybe he did, but his gf isn't anything to do with it, and randomers phoning up his telephone giving abuse may unsettle not only him but his family
Just proves the point to those who believe that selling via the internet gives them anonymity from recourse that it's easy to find a hole raft of information on-line if you know where to look.
ScottHmk4
13-02-2011, 19:57
did this get sorted?