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This thread is a guide to help you with; what kind you need, what colour you want and where to buy. Although all HIDs are different, so this is only a guide on the colours (They will vary slightly depending where you buy).
I would like to point out that the pictures included in this thread are from a few members, if any of these members do not want their picture to be shown I will remove it.
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Firstly you have to decide on which set of HIDs suit your style of headlamp. Single reflectors require H4 and double reflectors require H7 for dipped beam and H3 for main beam.
Single Reflectors (H4):
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk124/mickm-C/h4lights-1.jpg
Double Reflectors (H7 and H3):
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk124/mickm-C/h7light.jpg
I wouldnt recommend putting HIDs in your main beam as flashing the unit causes them to break prematurely.
Second of all is choosing the colour, or temperature, that you want. The most common seem to be 4.3k, 5k, 6k, and 8k. Although they do go upto 12k which is basically purple.
4.3K is deemed as being the OEM Xenon light colour. (Off white/slight yellow)
http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww71/Carbonfido/100_1486.jpg
5K is deemed to be pure white.
http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww71/Carbonfido/LightMatch.jpg
6K is deemed to be white with a hint of blue.
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk124/mickm-C/HIDs-1.jpg
8K is further into blue again.
Where to buy.
I would suggest if your car needs H7 bulbs, to buy H7R bulbs - As these are anti-glare which should stop you blinding other drivers. Although most Ebay sellers advertise H7R, they are infact not - The blanking plate is positioned incorrectly which makes no difference at all to the beam pattern. Most people will advice going to HIDs4U to buy these bulbs as they seem to be correct, although a little more expensive than the Ebay kits.
From my experience on this forum, a lot of members tend to either go to HIDs4U or recommend an Ebay seller called 'dianeshop' as the kits from there tend to be good quality. Although the final decision is upto you.
There is no difference between "Normal" ballasts and "Slim" ballasts except the size, obviously. The slim ballasts will have an extra box on the wiring though, this is the starter. If you are looking to mount the ballasts inside the light unit, then slim ballasts will be required - If not, then the normal ballasts will do.
Please note, when using HIDs4U they will advice you need to buy the "Ultimate Kit" as your car has CANBUS wiring - This is NOT true. Any kit will fit your car, providing you buy the correct bulb.
This leads us onto fitting.
Whether you decide to mount the ballasts in the engine bay, or inside the light unit is your choice. The obvious difference being that inside the light unit will keep the engine bay that little bit tidier, and will prevent you from having to cut a hole in the back covers of the lights. If you decide to mount them inside the light unit you will need "Slim" ballasts as mentioned above.
The wiring is very simple, although it can look daunting. The wires are normally colour coded to each other which you connect before putting the kit into the car. The spade connectors wire into the plug from the original bulb.
Here is some pictures to show how the inside of the light unit looks with everything inside. The red square is where the ballast is placed.
http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww71/Carbonfido/covers2.jpg
http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww71/Carbonfido/Lightcloseup2.jpg
Last of all, aligning your headlights.
To make sure you have the lights pointing in the correct position, both for your safety so you can see, and for others so not to blind them, use this guide to correctly adjust your headlights.
You need to park on a level surface in front of a wall/garage door to align them... Ibiza headlights have an inclination of 1% - meaning the top of the beam should DROP at a rate of 1%.
http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww71/Carbonfido/Headlight.jpg
http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww71/Carbonfido/Beam.jpg
I need a picture of 8K.... anyone care to provide some? :p
vroomtshh
23-12-2010, 11:31
I have 6k but I could give you pics of dipped, mains and fogs all replaced with hids
Yeah mate that would be good, stick them up and Ill move them into the correct section :)
Nice work Mick [B)] we`ve needed a dedicated HID thread for a while.
I forgot about the alignment pics! Nice find :whistle:
Nice work Mick [B)] we`ve needed a dedicated HID thread for a while.
I forgot about the alignment pics! Nice find :whistle:
By the way here is 4300k, off white/slight yellow:
Thanks mate :) Hopefully it will help with all the HID threads that get opened... You can sort out the LED Sidelight one! :lol:
Ive moved your picture up mate, thanks for that :)
you can sort out the LED sidelight one
Ive moved your picture up mate, thanks for that :)
Hmmm, we`ll see...
I`ve deleted the pic from my post so it`s easier on the thread.
Just found this on my computer, it`s my old 5000k beam. Shows just how white they are.
http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww71/Carbonfido/Dip-wall.jpg
BeezaDave
29-12-2010, 22:32
aw shite. i bought 4300k cos i was told they were the whitest. i hope they're not too yellow when they arrive :headhurt: i def dont want any yellow. BOLLOCKS [:@]
ibizatom
29-12-2010, 22:49
They wont look yellow. I have 4.3k in my car and they look so white compared to standard halogen lamps.
BeezaDave
29-12-2010, 22:54
They wont look yellow. I have 4.3k in my car and they look so white compared to standard halogen lamps.
thank god for that :thumbup: u got any pics up??
ibizatom
29-12-2010, 22:59
This might help you and calm you down a little. lol.
Dipped beam is 4.3k HID and the full beam is a halogen lamp with a blue tint to make it more whiter. Well not to much effect anyway. lol
http://i205.photobucket.com/albums/bb129/tommyboy6996/DSC_4937.jpg
BeezaDave
29-12-2010, 23:02
rite thanks for that. mine are H4 so all one bulb. sure we'll get them fitted and if they're not right, we'll try and get them changed :D thanks for your help lad
ibizatom
29-12-2010, 23:08
No worries mate. Glad I could help. :)
BeezaDave
06-01-2011, 14:17
got sidelights today that i was told would match the 4300k hids which are on the way and they look exactly the same as the standard sidelights, just as yellow. so now iv got HIDS on the way which are gonna be yellow. i thought 5000k where the whitest but was told 4300k were whiter. screwed now. any ideas what i can do??
ibizatom
09-01-2011, 01:14
4.3k will he brighter. 5k will look white but will have ever slightly reduced output with 6k slightly worse off and 8 worse off than that.
The side lights I have are more 6k in colour temp but actually look ok and not too blue compared to the 4.3k HIDS i have on my car. :)
seat manett
13-01-2011, 20:24
where can i get a 8K Hid kits from ?? cheers
where can i get a 8K Hid kits from ?? cheers
I'm sure this thread answers that does it not?
Ebay or HIDs4U or somewhere like that.. remember to check what bulbs you need too.
seat manett
13-01-2011, 20:32
cheers
Gray-IbizaFR
20-01-2011, 20:39
are hids legal?
are hids legal?
No....
Fitting HID lamps to any headlamp designed for a halogen lamp is illegal. See the link below which explains it.
http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/roadsafety/drs/hidheadlamps
Gray-IbizaFR
21-01-2011, 18:29
[QUOTE=Biker;3310582]No....
Fitting HID lamps to any headlamp designed for a halogen lamp is illegal. See the link below which explains it.
glad thats cleared up, now to find decent bulbs! cheers!
does any1 know a good dealer or brand on ebay?
does any1 know a good dealer or brand on ebay?
Did you read the thread? I covered that in post 3.
http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showpost.php?p=3270345&postcount=3
yer i did, i just search for that supplier and couldnt find them, sorry for having to ask again.
Here (http://stores.ebay.co.uk/diane-shop/Light-Bulbs-/_i.html?_fsub=112314519&_sid=412287709&_trksid=p4634.c0.m322)
thanx very much mate :), they seem very cheap didnt think you could get a set under £50, they are up for £10 is that about right? sorry to be a pain just im rather new to all of this.
Yeah there are kits up for about £10, but the delivery is £20 :p
5k looks good
Thanks :confused:
Last of all, aligning your headlights.
http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww71/Carbonfido/Beam.jpg
Anyone know what the distances are on the diagram?
Another question too, i saw someone put somewhere that you need to have headlamp washers for them to be legal which mine does so does this mean i can make them legal?
The distances can be anything, so if your parked 1m away from the wall, then the beam should only drop 1% or 1cm from the centre of the bulb.
The rumour that you've read says that to pass an MOT from Dec 2011 onwards then HIDs must have auto-levelling and headlight washers to be legal. I have yet to see an official book/online statement from VOSA stating this.. All I have seen is that they will try and work with garages to fit it in - Everything else I have seen does NOT mention anything about HIDs, only that headlights must be properly aligned etc.
The distances can be anything, so if your parked 1m away from the wall, then the beam should only drop 1% or 1cm from the centre of the bulb.
The rumour that you've read says that to pass an MOT from Dec 2011 onwards then HIDs must have auto-levelling and headlight washers to be legal. I have yet to see an official book/online statement from VOSA stating this.. All I have seen is that they will try and work with garages to fit it in - Everything else I have seen does NOT mention anything about HIDs, only that headlights must be properly aligned etc.
Ok cheers and yeah thats what i thought surely if they fitted correctly with the correct adjustment so that you not blinding other drivers there shouldnt be a problem with it and should be tested as a standard headlight
rory21388
04-03-2011, 21:45
Last of all, aligning your headlights.
To make sure you have the lights pointing in the correct position, both for your safety so you can see, and for others so not to blind them, use this guide to correctly adjust your headlights.
You need to park on a level surface in front of a wall/garage door to align them... Ibiza headlights have an inclination of 1% - meaning the top of the beam should DROP at a rate of 1%.
So if they are aligned properly will they pass an mot? I have heard a lot of talk about only lights with projector lenses passing mots and also talk of them making hids an automatic mot fail? I've got HIDs from my old bmw and all I would need to do is buy a new set of bulbs for them but I dont want to be spending my pennies if they wont pass. Not much room in the engine bay for switching bulbs as you will all know and I couldnt be doing with the hassle of in/out for every mot.
Maverick08
26-04-2011, 17:16
as for double headlights (on facelifts) am I right in guessing the full beam is a H4 bulb? what would the best bulbs be to go with a 6000K HID dipped beam setup?
bananaskin
28-04-2011, 18:27
I have a double refelctor headlight 2003 ibiza. Where you have said h7 and h3.
So is this the correct ad to buy from?
Ebay item- (cant link as i havent had enough posts yet :( )
Item number: 290408950008
And i assume in the bulb size note when buying i ask for H7 AND H3?
Sorry im a novice to ibizas at the moment. Got HIDs on my polo though.
bananaskin
28-04-2011, 18:28
I have H7 (7pin) on my 1997 polo. LONG shot but would these work in my new ibiza? :o
JonnyH10
10-05-2011, 20:31
Whats the difference between the 35W and 55W kits?
55w HIDs are brighter than 35w. They tend to wash out some of the colour of the HID bulb due to the light output. For example, a 55w 8000k kit will look similar in colour to a 35w 6000k kit.
JonnyH10
10-05-2011, 20:59
So does that mean 55w are better? I think I'd go for either 5000K or 6000K.
So does that mean 55w are better? I think I'd go for either 5000K or 6000K.
Not so much better, they are brighter. I've got 35w and they are bright enough! I've never had any trouble with people flashing me or from the police.
35w 6k H7R's.
http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk124/mickm-C/2011-03-21201553.jpg
JonnyH10
10-05-2011, 22:16
Yea, done a bit of research on Google there and got pretty much the same as what your saying. Apparently the 55w cause more glare due to the extra brightness, so I'll stick to the 35w if I get them.
I guess HID's are fine then if they're put in correctly and are aligned to make sure they don't blind people, even though they are technically illegal lol [B)]
Yeah I'd stick with the 35w's to be on the safe side.
You'd be better off getting "R" bulbs too, these reduce glare even further. There is rumour that they will fail an MOT in 2012 onwards, but I've still to see concrete evidence of this.
JonnyH10
10-05-2011, 22:34
My headlights are the single reflectors H4, I don't think there is a R bulb for it.
Yea, I heard that too. Would that mean the police would clamp down on them more as well?
My headlights are the single reflectors H4, I don't think there is a R bulb for it.
Yea, I heard that too. Would that mean the police would clamp down on them more as well?
Ahh ok. No you won't be able to get the "R" bulbs then, the bulbs work differently as your's has to do full and dipped beam.
They might, they might not. Like I said, I've not seen any concrete evidence that its coming into play... all still a rumour in my eyes.
JonnyH10
10-05-2011, 23:08
Ok thanks very much for the help mick! :) Time to save up for the HID's!
bananaskin
12-05-2011, 20:53
Ive got twin reflector headlights on an 03 ibiza.
any chance someone could link me to the correct HIDs on ebay?
Just search for H7R HID kit mate..
Can get slim ballasts to fit in the light unit, or normal ones and hide them in the bay.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/H7R-35w-ULTRA-XENON-HID-CONVERSION-KIT-ALL-COLOURS-/370257575637?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item5635123ed5
Then just choose your colour :)
bananaskin
12-05-2011, 23:46
Cheers dude :) that just the low beam yeah :) hope you don't have to take the whole light unit out :/
Yeah just the dipped beams. Those are for the twin reflectors, so just make sure thats what you have :p
Nah you don't... I done both sides in about 40 mins with them still on the car :)
bananaskin
15-05-2011, 13:22
Awesome mate.
Il get them ordered ;)
Yeah this is my ibiza. Twin reflector yes.
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/jimbob1191/Ibiza/DSC02717.jpg
Sure is mate, good luck! :)
ALEXZ360
18-05-2011, 21:04
Hey Guys, Im Trying To Buy Some Hid's Off Yourhids And They Are Adamant That My 2007 1.2 Ibiza Requires A Canbus Kit And I Have Told Them That It Doesnt, I Am Right Arent I?
Yeah you are. It doesn't need it, but they will try force it on you as it probably costs more!
ALEXZ360
18-05-2011, 21:12
Ok Cool :)
Chris_a_73
18-05-2011, 22:26
MOTs are only once a year.... Put your halogens back in for the test if you're worried about it... That's what I did.
ALEXZ360
18-05-2011, 22:39
I Used To Do That On My Red Ibiza Anyway :p
bananaskin
20-05-2011, 19:11
got mine through today.
Gonna give it a bash at fitting them tomorrow afternoon.
Chris_a_73
20-05-2011, 19:17
Sweet did you get slimline or standard ballasts? I should probably mount my ballasts properly...current they are just zip tied from the top, onto the wing.
bananaskin
20-05-2011, 20:49
Standard ballasts.
Gonna mount them on the chassis rails like I did on my polo if I can
bananaskin
20-05-2011, 20:52
Only part I think il have an issue with is the connecting to original system. I have (as said in the first post on here) the two spade connectors (one black, one red) as this was different to my last set I installed
bananaskin
21-05-2011, 15:37
Fitted :D not too difficult
Chris_a_73
21-05-2011, 18:23
Pics ;)
bananaskin
22-05-2011, 15:40
They are quite hard to photograph lol. Theres a really weird problem too. When i first turn them on the passenger one flicks on then goes off. The drivers stays on. So i have to turn them off again, then back on and the passenger one is then fine. Odd.
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/jimbob1191/Ibiza/247892_10150625561585437_639230436_18718119_570559_n.jpg
http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z238/jimbob1191/Ibiza/DSC02727.jpg
ALEXZ360
22-05-2011, 16:49
Make Sure Your Connectors Are Pushed In All The Way, Mine Did That Then I Just Unplugged All The Connectors Then Pushed Them All Back In And It Was Fine
bananaskin
22-05-2011, 19:09
Ah ok il try that. To be honest they were quite hard to get pushed and clicked in. If theyve been on for a while and i turn them off and back on theyre fine.
ALEXZ360
22-05-2011, 19:17
Will H4-3 Hid Kit Work On My Mates Pre-Fl Ibiza Headlights?
JonnyH10
09-06-2011, 12:36
Will H4-3 Hid Kit Work On My Mates Pre-Fl Ibiza Headlights?
Should do mate, thats what I'm getting for my single reflector headlights. :)
Lewis1600
12-06-2011, 16:22
Just fitted my H4 8000K HIDs...
Will get some pics up soon as the rain clears :)
JonnyH10
16-06-2011, 14:32
Got my H4-3 HID kit in the post this morning! :)
Do I have to disconnect the battery to fit them?
Also I've worked out all the connections apart from the wires with the circular ends on them, two are black, the other is red. Do they connect to the car and the battery?
bananaskin
16-06-2011, 17:47
I didn't disconnect my battery
The four wires on each hid set push fit into the black electrical part on the bulb connector. Make sure you get the live and the neutral the right way round. I had to do a test to make sure they were right.
Connecting those metal black circles and the red ones are how the hids link into the original system.
Don't ask me why theres two black on one side and red and black on the other lol
JonnyH10
16-06-2011, 19:16
Just fitted mine there. The H4-3 kit must be wired differently to the H7.
On mine there was 2 black circle connector wires (one for each bulb) which have to be connected to ground (bare metal on the chassis) and a red one which is connected to the +ve terminal of the battery.
Couldn't get mine to work at first, but I realised I hadn't connected the two ground wires correctly to the chassis. Might need to get self tappers to get them screwed on.
bananaskin
16-06-2011, 19:27
How odd must be different to my H7s because I didn't have to ground them at all
JonnyH10
16-06-2011, 19:37
Yea, it could be something to do with the solenoid that moves the bulb from low to high beam, but I'm not sure. I'm happy enough anyway, they both work and look good imo! :D
Now my LED sidelights look a bit blue compared to the pure white 5000k HID's, but I've been told its hard to get sidelights that are pure white so they'll have to do lol.
JonnyH10
19-06-2011, 13:55
Anyone with the H4 single reflector headlights had a problem with the beam pattern?
Mine seem to have a bit of stray light above the rest of the beam, which is probably blinding other drivers.
Think I'm going to have to attempt aligning them but I don't think that will solve the problem.
moggytom
26-06-2011, 08:26
i got led sidelights and want a hid colour to match, there ment to be white but they look pretty blue, would 8k be best to match ? cheers tom also what kind of bulbs are the fog lights
cheers :)
Does anyone have pics of the installation of the HID-kit? I tend to buy a kit myself, but am not sure if it's easy to fit (I'm kinda car-n00b :p)
Chris_a_73
22-07-2011, 15:58
Cheap HID kits need to be connected to the battery etc and are harder to fit. The HIDs4u kit I have is very easy to fit. 10minutes max, however if you have a larger kit (as opposed to slim ballasts) you'll need to drill the headlight rear covers which takes the longest time in the whole installation.
Did you just change the dipped beam, or also the main beam and fog lights? Because.. the kit on HIDs4U are £91.95 for (I think) 2 H7 lights. If I want to change all lights I'd also need 2 sets of H3 lights making it 3 x £91.95 = £275.85 just to have some nice lights..
Chris_a_73
22-07-2011, 21:46
The way I see it, what's the point in getting 'good looking' lights, for bulbs such as main beam or fog lights, when no one will see them? I changed low beam only, standard fogs (never used anyway) and Osram Nightbreaker main beam :)
Cheap HID kits need to be connected to the battery etc and are harder to fit.
This isn't true, and I don't know where you got that from.
Look at any H7's from diane-shop (cheap ebay) ones and you will see they don't have the wiring harness, nor do the HIDS4U ones like you say.
You might be getting mixed up with the H4 Bi-Xenon HIDs as they need the harness to switch between main and full beam. Otherwise, you only need a wiring harness if your car is unable to provide the voltage needed by the HIDs to start up.
Chris_a_73
22-07-2011, 22:15
My badddd, got mixed up :p
The way I see it, what's the point in getting 'good looking' lights, for bulbs such as main beam or fog lights, when no one will see them? I changed low beam only, standard fogs (never used anyway) and Osram Nightbreaker main beam :)
True, true. Guess I'll be changing my low beams soon then :D
Chris_a_73
25-07-2011, 11:22
You won't regret it, they looks the dogs danglies!
I have the H7R 5000k kit from HIDs4u (discount code strathy). Very easy to fit, great quality and has a 2 year guarantee :D Perfectly white, so will not gain any negative attention from the popo as well :)
So.. just to be sure, if I was going the cheap way and buy at Diane's store this kit: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HID-XENON-CONVERSION-KIT-BULBS-BALLAST-H7-6000K-/300417614478?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item45f249028e#ht_3414wt_905 I'll be done completely? Just install this kit and I'm ready to go?
Chris_a_73
25-07-2011, 18:59
Try to get H7R rather than standard H7. H7R stop a random spread of light (which dazzles people at night), with a heatproof strip across the bulb. H7 HIDs are usually used in conjunction with projector (not reflector) headlights. But yes, other than different bulbs, that's all the kit you need.
May as well buy that cheap kit and get these bulbs http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/H7R-4-3k-35w-HID-Xenon-Bulbs-pair-HIDS-Direct-/370108212754?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=item562c2b2612#ht_2113wt_1141
bananaskin
25-07-2011, 19:13
anyone got a guide on changing the beam bulb.
I got a new one but couldnt see how to :/
Thanks.
Sorry its not exactly HID related
liam-lpm
06-11-2011, 17:21
i simply just changed the bulbs got a bright white main beam and a slightly blue side light makes a good bright look. although there not as bright as HID kits i think the bulbs are less hassle as the cops around my area are fineing people with HIDs and tbh i cant be bothered with the hassle
uksteffy
16-11-2011, 18:09
is there a kit you can buy that you get both the h7 and h3 buldsfor the Double Reflector headlamps?
Chris_a_73
16-11-2011, 19:36
HIDs shouldn't be used for main beam UkSteffy. They require time to warm up and create the initial 'light arc', and if they are turned on and off many times in a short period of time (ie: flashing someone), then the life of the bulbs can be severely reduced.
It's not like anyone will see the yellow-ness of standard halogens on main beam anyway, so it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things.
rite thanks for that. mine are H4 so all one bulb. sure we'll get them fitted and if they're not right, we'll try and get them changed :D thanks for your help lad
Hi did you get yours in Ireland or on the web? Not too much stuff to be found in Éire!
BeezaDave
04-12-2011, 02:29
Hi did you get yours in Ireland or on the web? Not too much stuff to be found in Éire!
Got mine on ebay. cant remember where from exactly but im swapping my single reflector headlights for dual reflector now so getting new HID's anyway.
Ya its tough to find stuff here but ebay/HIDS4U/HIDSdirect give the best ones anyway i feel. Let us know what you go for anyway ;)
moggytom
08-12-2011, 09:38
my drivers headlight bulb has gone so think its time you phrase to a Hid kit, got one off eBay for 35 quid delivered, is there any fitting guide for these ? or any detailed piks as I can't see to find any
cheers Tom
BeezaDave
10-12-2011, 13:42
not really a HID question but a HID related question. Im converting from the single reflector bulbs to twin reflector. I bought a H7R HID kit which is 6000k. now I need a H3 bulb. im looking to get one to match the HIDs and sidelights. I realise there is no point putting a H3 HID bulb in there as flashing would wreck the bulb.
so my question is does anyone know of a H3 bulb which would match the 6000k HIDs?
BeezaDave
12-12-2011, 02:54
not really a HID question but a HID related question. Im converting from the single reflector bulbs to twin reflector. I bought a H7R HID kit which is 6000k. now I need a H3 bulb. im looking to get one to match the HIDs and sidelights. I realise there is no point putting a H3 HID bulb in there as flashing would wreck the bulb.
so my question is does anyone know of a H3 bulb which would match the 6000k HIDs?
Any help at all?
Chris_a_73
12-12-2011, 10:10
What's the point in getting a main beam bulb to match HID? No one would ever see the colour difference. If you wanted halogen h3 bulb to match 6k, it'd have to be a heavy blue tinted bulb, which would significantly reduce light output.
End of the day, no point changing your mainbeam bulb to alter colour. Just go for osram nightbreakers.
BeezaDave
12-12-2011, 15:10
What's the point in getting a main beam bulb to match HID? No one would ever see the colour difference. If you wanted halogen h3 bulb to match 6k, it'd have to be a heavy blue tinted bulb, which would significantly reduce light output.
End of the day, no point changing your mainbeam bulb to alter colour. Just go for osram nightbreakers.
Cos it would drive me mad knowing that the dipped beam is white and the meain beam is yellow.
I dont really min about reduced light output a the HIDs will be bright enough on their own. what colour output are the nightbreakers? iv heard very yellow.
Chris_a_73
12-12-2011, 17:30
Nightbreakers have the best light output you will find, and are generally the whitest (excluding the poor quality blue tinted bulbs).
If you have correctly aligned HIDs (H7R's), you will still need main beam bulbs (bright ones), as they should not emit light above a certain height.
JonnyH10
12-12-2011, 18:30
I had Nightbreakers in mine before I got HID's, they're not white at all lol. Not as yellow as standard bulbs but they certainly aren't white. But still, you'd be safer just going for something like Osram Nightbreakers or Ring bulbs for the main beam to give you a good light output.
Chris3boro
23-12-2011, 12:53
Anyone have a link to this kit but the SLIM version??
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/H7R-35w-ULTRA-XENON-HID-CONVERSION-KIT-ALL-COLOURS-/370257575637?_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D4%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D5093265426704322805#ht_244 3wt_1192
THANKS!
Chris_a_73
23-12-2011, 13:28
http://www.hids-direct.co.uk/hid-kits-50w-slim/h1h3h7h1190059006-hid-kits/50w-slim-single-beam-hid-conversion-kits-p-457.html
Chris3boro
23-12-2011, 14:30
http://www.hids-direct.co.uk/hid-kits-50w-slim/h1h3h7h1190059006-hid-kits/50w-slim-single-beam-hid-conversion-kits-p-457.html
Cheers. Are 35W not supposed to be the safer bet for some reason?
Less chance of melting the lens. Probably attract less unwanted attention too.
Chris_a_73
23-12-2011, 18:44
Couldn't see 35W slim on that site. However I used HIDs4U, they have great customer service and very good products (with 2 year warrantee IIRC).
They have a slim 35W H7R kit here, http://www.hids4u.co.uk/h7-35w-slim-proplus-xenon-hid-conversion-kit.html
http://www.hids-direct.co.uk/hid-kits-35w-canbuspro/h1h3h7h1190059006-hid-kits/h1h3h4h7h8h9h11-35w-canbus-pro-hid-conversion-kit-p-453.html
think this is the kit you want for slim
Chris3boro
26-12-2011, 17:00
Thanks guys
Does anyone know anywhere that sells a 5000k 35w H7R Slim kit?
Does anyone know anywhere that sells a 5000k 35w H7R Slim kit?
try amazon or ebay mate, I have 8000k h7 ones from amazon, pretty good for the price :)
Chris_a_73
30-12-2011, 01:39
http://www.hids4u.co.uk/h7-35w-slim-proplus-xenon-hid-conversion-kit.html
Cheers,
I haven't thought about amazon, I'll have a look around
Hmm didn't really want to pay over 100
I've found these http://www.hids-direct.co.uk/hid-kits-35w-canbuspro/all-mercedes-except-vito/canbus-pro-35w-mid-slim-hid-kit-for-mercedes-p-517.html They say mercedes but are the only ones I can find that are 5000k in h7r with slim ballasts on there website. would these work?
Chris_a_73
30-12-2011, 11:40
Yep it would work, H7R is H7R, it doesn't matter what car manufacture they say it's for.
Yep it would work, H7R is H7R, it doesn't matter what car manufacture they say it's for.
ahh good stuff, I just wasn't sure what cambus pro means, but if they'll work I'll get em ordered :)
Chris_a_73
30-12-2011, 12:35
Canbus means that it will work with newer models (such as Leon Mk2, Ibiza Mk5) which will show a dash error with LED sidelights and HID headlights. Models without canbus requirements can still use canbus products though.
This was a massive help!! thanks.. il be putting on some decent HID's soon enough and be rid of poor yellow standard bulbs! :-D
Just been out for my first drive with HID's I've got 5000k bulbs, but they are quite blue. might be a silly question but do they need to wear in at all?
Chris_a_73
14-01-2012, 13:14
Which brand did you buy? Mine are 5k HIDs4u H7R and are perfectly white, not blue at all. They take 5-10 seconds to warm up, but no, they don't need wearing in.
The same kit as you Chris, does yours show even a hint of blue?
Chris_a_73
14-01-2012, 13:57
Not at all. Closer to white/yellow than blue. Perfect white...
Hi guys.
Just a quick question regarding the installation of the bulbs.
When you purchase a HID kit the bulbs are contained within a plastic cover. This has a top half and a bottom half which screw into each other. The top half can be screwed out and removed but the bottom threaded piece can only go down along the wires and i cant seem to thread it off. It will not fit up over the bump base which fits into the light socket. Do i just break this piece of plastic off or am i missing something stupid?
Cheers
Hi guys, signed up a few days ago and this is my first post.
So I bought an H4 kit from eBay and I've just been trying to fit it for the best part of half an hour but I'm getting a bit confused.
I would post a couple of pictures of the kit but my post count won't allow it yet. Basically I have the 2 bulbs and 2 ballasts but then I have a connecting lead for the two ballasts; but there's also a fuse and 'wiring harness controller'. Also one of the ends has a 3 prong connector that you'd use for the old bulb. Now this has to go across the car which means I can just clip the back of the light bracket on without making a hole in it, which ideally I didn't want to do.
I was under the impression that it was just the bulb and ballast that was needed and you could fit all of this inside the light fixing.
BeezaDave
29-01-2012, 15:16
Hi guys, signed up a few days ago and this is my first post.
So I bought an H4 kit from eBay and I've just been trying to fit it for the best part of half an hour but I'm getting a bit confused.
I would post a couple of pictures of the kit but my post count won't allow it yet. Basically I have the 2 bulbs and 2 ballasts but then I have a connecting lead for the two ballasts; but there's also a fuse and 'wiring harness controller'. Also one of the ends has a 3 prong connector that you'd use for the old bulb. Now this has to go across the car which means I can just clip the back of the light bracket on without making a hole in it, which ideally I didn't want to do.
I was under the impression that it was just the bulb and ballast that was needed and you could fit all of this inside the light fixing.
I think its only the H7 kits that fit inside the light fixing. AFAIK the H4 kits have to run across the front of the car and sometimes to the battery aswell.
JonnyH10
29-01-2012, 15:44
Think your right Dave. My H4 kit runs across the front of engine bay between the two headlights, and there's a connection to the positive battery terminal. Ballast's didn't fit inside the headlight. :(
Not having much luck with this ha. Cheers Beeza yea after watching a few tutorial videos I realised that would probably be the case. Unfortunately though I can't get them to work.
I set it up, not worrying about wire management for the time being, but I can't for the life of me get these things glowing. I've tried it from scratch 3 times now, each time putting the original H4s back in to make sure I hadn't blown a fuse or anything. I have the red wire connected to the positive contact of the battery and each of the two black wires earthed to the chassis, plus all the other plugs connected up to their respective partners. Starting to think it's a faulty unit but I don't want to have to return it if it's just something I'm doing wrong. Any tips?
JonnyH10
29-01-2012, 16:16
I had the same problem when I fitted mine for the first time, wouldn't work at all. Turned out my two earths werent good, so I connected two larger ring connector things and earthed them on the top mount bolts.
Ah fair enough well I'll give it another go tomorrow as it's starting to get a bit dark, I guess I could smear a bit of Vaseline on them also to try and increase the conductivity.