View Full Version : I know I'm blantantly stealing this idea but...
... over on scoobynet they have recently opened a "driving dynamics" section of the forum in order that people can discuss driving techniques and car set up, as we havea fair few knowledgable people on here and a fair few who arent but are curious (such as myself) maybe it would be an idea to do something similar?
I'm guessing that the Suspension & Handling (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=98) doesn't count?
mark sheerin
09-03-2004, 12:26
driving fast..s'easy just stoke up the 'red mist' and hang on..:D
Its kind of a difficult subject to get to grips with and explain over the net..
I know that people will think I'm bonkers when I say I like how my revo'd Cupra behaves on std suspension but I do..
I always prefer to have a car that overpowers its chassis then you have another part of the driving equasion to add in.
You then have throttle steering and brakes to control the car..
If you have a better chassis that the engine can't overpower then you only have steering to control the car which makes for a really boring driving experience believe me.
My Cupra only lets me down when the road gets lumpy and the damping can't cope.
On smooth roads its fine..limited only by poor front grip in slippy conditions.
I like driving my car by the scruff of its neck..I don't like to think I'm just a passenger.
I could make the car handle better but then I'd only have to drive faster to get the same sensation of being near the limit that I do now.
mark sheerin
09-03-2004, 12:28
Originally posted by m0rk
I'm guessing that the Suspension & Handling (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=98) doesn't count?
If your sense of humour got any drier you'd turn to dust..:D
Originally posted by mark sheerin
If your sense of humour got any drier you'd turn to dust..:D
heh - you're not the 1st person to say that recently. :D
Originally posted by m0rk
I'm guessing that the Suspension & Handling (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=98) doesn't count?
Not really what I had in mind, I always took that to be regarding modification of the suspension set-up etc, what I'm talking about is more in the way of actual driving techniques regardless of whether your set up is modified or not. A case in point would have been a recent thread where a bit of a how-to on heel and toe was discussed.
slim_boy_fat
09-03-2004, 12:50
Originally posted by KaraK
Not really what I had in mind, I always took that to be regarding modification of the suspension set-up etc, what I'm talking about is more in the way of actual driving techniques regardless of whether your set up is modified or not. A case in point would have been a recent thread where a bit of a how-to on heel and toe was discussed.
Once Seat make a decent handeling car then ok, open the section....
Ok ok im going, :hammer: :devil:
;) ;)
mark sheerin
09-03-2004, 13:00
Originally posted by slim_boy_fat
Once Seat make a decent handling car then ok, open the section....
Ok ok im going, :hammer: :devil:
;) ;)
Does it really matter...none of the cars I've driven recently handle as well as either my Lancia Beta Coupe did or my 190e with sportsline suspension...
However good handling demands a premium..a good driver.
The modern car has safe handling dialed in...if most people these days drove a classic sports car from the old days they would spend their day bursting through one hedge after another.
As many people did in the past aswell..
I think you had a trouser moment too Slim..;)
slim_boy_fat
09-03-2004, 13:06
Originally posted by mark sheerin
Does it really matter...none of the cars I've driven recently handle as well as either my Lancia Beta Coupe did or my 190e with sportsline suspension...
However good handling demands a premium..a good driver.
The modern car has safe handling dialed in...if most people these days drove a classic sports car from the old days they would spend their day bursting through one hedge after another.
As many people did in the past aswell..
I think you had a trouser moment too Slim..;)
My trousers were fine Mark, not sure about Leos mind. :D
TallFella
09-03-2004, 13:13
heel toe, heel toe, one two one two :cool:
The way I've always learned driving skills is doing something until you nearly kack yerself, then it's time to stop.
Most people could never drive their cars to their limit anyway, lose yer bottle first in most cases.
Henyway, most public roads would bite too hard if you tried to push it too far.
I'm guessing we're talking about track days, in which case, should they not give you some guidance there?
Originally posted by mark sheerin
However good handling demands a premium..a good driver.
indeed it does, hence the suggestion :P we are always saying on this site that the driver makes a big difference and that people should really know how to use decent cars so thats why it seemed like a good idea, I know the principle time that you can use the more advanced techniques would be on a track/airfield day but they dont always come with tution and if nothing else it might give people a starting of things they can then take to a track and work on and try out
Another angle you could look at it from is that we have a fair old number of budding amatuer motorsports people on here, Mark with his Karting etc and there are loads who would like to get into this so maybe it would provide a means for this knowledge to pass down. In know there is a "General Motorsport" forum but in my experience its always been angled much more for commenting on pro motor sport as spectators and fans rather than dealing with the techniques etc that those on here who want to partake will need to learn.
Seeing as we are al change here at SEATCupra.net what with the new forum software and new main page, my answer to this point would be why not.
Just stick up one small forum and see if it gets any use. If not, delete it.