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christdi
11-03-2004, 20:23
Ok, this has been on my mind for a while now.
I know its early days yet but I am pretty keen on buying the new Ibiza Cupra TDI when it comes out. The one thing that worries me though is the chipping potential.
I mentioned on another forum that it would be great if the new 160 Cupra could get 200+bhp and another person replied that this figure would be highly unlikely.
He said that the 1.9pd engine obviously has a limit and that the 150pd produces about 185+bhp and 285lb when remapped. If thats the case then the gains from chipping the 160 would be pretty low. Then on the other hand I have read on another thread that someone has got 210bhp from his Leon 150pd.
I think im right in saying that the 160pd is just going to be a tweaked version of the 150pd? If so then what is the most you can honestly get from chipping a 150pd engine?

cpufreak
11-03-2004, 22:10
I think it will just be a tweaked version of the 150.

I'm running 189bhp/313lbft on my Ibiza TDi 130 at the moment, and hope to get close to 200bhp with new exhaust and some work done on the intakes.

Paulo (prc)'s got a 150 TDi in his Toledo, and has tweaked it pretty well - I'm not sure what figures he's putting out though.

Unless you're going to be wanting a new car anyway, why not just spend the money on Revo and new suspension to your car?

prc
12-03-2004, 00:23
I'm not sure what I'm doing at the moment, haven't tested with new IC, but I've seen a few 150 PD's with over 210hp.

The problem is that unless you really start cranking up the boost your going to get alot of soot if you start going over 200hp. Boost is nice but it bring other problems, or better said you'll need more than just SW. Remember a stock 150 does ~1.5Bar of constant boost (overboost is about 1.8Bar).
If you fuel it & boost it to get over 200hp then you'll have higher intake temps + higher oil temps.
One one of these 210+ monster I saw 160ºC oil temps :( I'm not sure of intake temps, but 80ºC+ sounds about right.

This means bigger or more efficent IC + oil coolers should be used.