View Full Version : got a date at last for IHI
got my ibiza booked in for the 29th of march they said they would need it for 7/10 days
just to tell everyone, but dont phone up sayin 'but he got a date' - please do it subtly as i want to have mine done well and for them not to be pissed at me
still no price confirmed but i want all the extras - new exhaust, sports cat, induction kit etc
will let people know how much when i know
fingers crossed people
Shane
well done,now can you all stop moaning:)
:D Excellent.
I can't wait. knowing my luck they only have X downpipes, and I'm number X+1. :(
Ben
still no price confirmed but i want all the extras - new exhaust, sports cat, induction kit etc
Shane
All the extras? including Uprated Engine mounts, rods, pistons, heat wrapped exhaust, Quaife diff etc? Or do you mean just the options listed on the site?
I hope it all goes well. :thumbup:
Cheers
Ben
7-10days is a long time tho.
do they give you a loaner?
:p keep us informed shane,lol@ ben ;)
vern
ibizacupra
17-03-2004, 21:29
7-10days is a long time tho.
do they give you a loaner?
maybe a little blue lupo...
all part of the plan maybe..
{daft mode on}
Give a 1.0E Lupo as a courtesy car for the time, so anything feels much faster afterwards. Truth is its the same cra you get back.... such is the gap from 1.0 Lupo to 20VT power.. LOL
{daft mode off}
Only kidding.. :hide: :whistle: :roflmao:
LOL
i like the thinking.....
no just the options on thier list
i will be goin round in my nans brand new 1 day old skoda fabia autospastic for a few days as i have a few things to do like dentist and eye appointments - joys of being a student - get it while u can
cant wait bens1 - thought u were no.2 so u should have a Dpipe? they said they had 2 i thought??
not bothered if it take 2 weeks, but would like to see it on the rollers so i can see how she goes, got a crappy APR chip which app. only make 170BHP?? but can feel stupidly fast some times
anyone else have problems with thier ECU being adaptable to how they drive? i do a lot of motorway miles so it feels a little sluggish all the time.
blimey can't wait for the phonecall!
I phoned Jabba this morning (I had planned on calling today even before I saw this thread). They confirmed that they have one car booked in, but they wont book any more in until that car is done. :(
I asked if that car was still considered to be testing the kit and she said no, so I don't really get why they will only book the rest in after SPS' is done. Strange.
Feel even more depressed than before now. :(
My guess is mine wont be done until after GTI International now. :(
LOL at Bill. :D
Oh well, get my FIVE gauges fitted next week, then my rollcage custom made week beginning 5th April, then my new redesigned shocks 19th April, so plenty of stuff to get a little excited about.
I may buy some new trackday wheels too (Compomotive 7.5x16), but I wanted the new Avon ZZR trackday tyres but it appears they don't do a size to match my wheels. :(
SPS, keep us updated... bet you're excited now. Let us know how you get on.
BTW, did Jabba fit your chargecooler, I can't remember.
Thanks
Ben
no got it done at Pace
prob want to see how the CC handles and the new downpipe on an ibiza
oh well as long as shes quick which i hope she will
got a few mates who are havin thier cars done as well
250bhp R5 turbo stripped out and a £25K 300bhp 1.3 mini turbo with a 6 speed box
should be a good race - have a feelin the mini will win some how though
300bhp from a 1.3, and in a mini!!! That'll shift then! :D
Cheers
Ben
I may buy some new trackday wheels too (Compomotive 7.5x16), but I wanted the new Avon ZZR trackday tyres but it appears they don't do a size to match my wheels. :(
Ben
They do a 205/45/16 which will work just fine on this wheel - £150 apiece though
Rob
ibizacupra
19-03-2004, 11:35
They do a 205/45/16 which will work just fine on this wheel - £150 apiece though
Rob
Ker-ching$$$
They do a 205/45/16 which will work just fine on this wheel - £150 apiece though
Rob
I've tried quite a few different size tyres on my Ibiza now (Including 205-45-16) and I like 215mm wide over 205mm wide, and the 45 profile feels a bit jellyish compared to 40 profile. Its a personal taste thing I guess as other people may prefer 205/45 over 215/40 but not me.
Where have you seen the prices and sizes listed? I think they are available in 215x40x17 which is the size I am currently running, but I wanted to go down to 215x40x16. Never mind.
Appologies for going off topic.
SPS, have Jabba told you what power output to expect? The website still says 350bhp but I think Bill indicated that 320bhp would e more realistic. Is that right Bill?
Cheers
Ben
Shock_Xe
19-03-2004, 22:21
I've tried quite a few different size tyres on my Ibiza now (Including 205-45-16) and I like 215mm wide over 205mm wide, and the 45 profile feels a bit jellyish compared to 40 profile. Its a personal taste thing I guess as other people may prefer 205/45 over 215/40 but not me.
Where have you seen the prices and sizes listed? I think they are available in 215x40x17 which is the size I am currently running, but I wanted to go down to 215x40x16. Never mind.
Appologies for going off topic.
SPS, have Jabba told you what power output to expect? The website still says 350bhp but I think Bill indicated that 320bhp would e more realistic. Is that right Bill?
Cheers
Ben
so can u reliably put a 215 tyre on a 205 rim??
so can u reliably put a 215 tyre on a 205 rim??
Mike, give yourself a slap, man! :)
205/40/17 = 205mm tread width, sidewall height as % of tread width (40% of 205 = 82mm), 17 inch rim diameter.
Bizarrely, the UK mixes Imperial and metric units in its tyre sizing.
205mm = 8.07in , 215mm = 8.46in
Obviously you want a bit of 'overhang' so the tyre is wider than the alloy rim otherwise if you drive like a bird, your alloys will be kerb-scraped in <10 secs!
So anything up to XX" x 7.5" wheels will be ok with 205mm section tyres but on 8" I'd go for 215's - I hate that stretched look.
Shock_Xe
20-03-2004, 06:55
Mike, give yourself a slap, man! :)
205/40/17 = 205mm tread width, sidewall height as % of tread width (40% of 205 = 82mm), 17 inch rim diameter.
Bizarrely, the UK mixes Imperial and metric units in its tyre sizing.
205mm = 8.07in , 215mm = 8.46in
Obviously you want a bit of 'overhang' so the tyre is wider than the alloy rim otherwise if you drive like a bird, your alloys will be kerb-scraped in <10 secs!
So anything up to XX" x 7.5" wheels will be ok with 205mm section tyres but on 8" I'd go for 215's - I hate that stretched look.
so in other words 215 will go.
Ok quick Q As Im about to order 4 tyres
Will it rub with my H&R kit??
Will spacers fit on the rear then?? (guessing deffinatly not)
ben - i am realisticly lookin for over 320bhp the same as bills i think when he first had his done
but my engine is done on power to start off with so i was told by jabba
time will tell - what are yo gettin engine wise ? u getin thier new exhaust n induction kit?
thought i might as well as then they cant say - well you need to change this - next will be the clutch as i still have the standard 20vt clutch - think that might go quite quickly - might look at a diesel one as thats what jabbas is running - and feels the same as mine
so in other words 215 will go.
Ok quick Q As Im about to order 4 tyres
Will it rub with my H&R kit??
Will spacers fit on the rear then?? (guessing deffinatly not)
Tyre manufacturers list the tyre widths that will fit onto which width rims.
From memory, Goodyear list a 7" width rim as being good for 195, 205 & 215 width rims, 7.5" rims take 205, 215 & 225 width tyres. So in short, yes you can run 215mm tyres on 7" width rims and 7.5" width rims.... although they may seem a bit oversized on a 7" rim and as a rusult I found that handling suffered.
I currently run 215x40x17 tyres (Goodyear Eagle F1s) on 7.5"x17 wheels and so far this is the best handling solution I have found, although I'm planning on going down to 215x40x16 on a new set of trackday wheels.
Not sure about your H&R suspension but my 215 width tyres fit fine with my Bilstein suspension (Although its very close).
Cheers
Ben
ben - i am realisticly lookin for over 320bhp the same as bills i think when he first had his done
but my engine is done on power to start off with so i was told by jabba
time will tell - what are yo gettin engine wise ? u getin thier new exhaust n induction kit?
thought i might as well as then they cant say - well you need to change this - next will be the clutch as i still have the standard 20vt clutch - think that might go quite quickly - might look at a diesel one as thats what jabbas is running - and feels the same as mine
Have Jabba actually discussed the expected output with you? The reason i ask is that their website still says 340-350bhp!!!
My best rolling road figure was 197bhp with my Oettinger chip (Note that this was the same power output as Jabbas Ibiza on the same rollers on the same day).
I'm getting an exhaust yes, although I'd prefer the Jetex over thier own big oval one... I'm not a big oval fan. As for induction kit, I'll probably get theirs to start with but expect I'll replace it fairly soon after... this will allow me to see if I gain/loose any power when changing to different induction kit.
You're brave using your standard clutch! I've already got an uprated Helix clutch and a lightened flywheel... its worked for cheif test pilot Bill so should be ok for me too. ;)
If I have any problems with this clutch then I too may look at a Deisel clutch (Although for one of the more powerful Deisels.).
Cheers
Ben
ibizacupra
22-03-2004, 08:07
so in other words 215 will go.
Ok quick Q As Im about to order 4 tyres
Will it rub with my H&R kit??
Will spacers fit on the rear then?? (guessing deffinatly not)
My 7.5J 16" rims are running 215-40-16 tyres..
no rubbing, 15mm rear spacers.
bill
My 7.5J 16" rims are running 215-40-16 tyres..
no rubbing, 15mm rear spacers.
bill
Is that on your MOs Bill?
DIdn't realise you could squeeze 15mm rear spacers in too!
Ben
SPS, does your chargecooler pump operate at a single speed or does it have some kind of trigger that switches between low and high flow? If so then what is the trigger, boost, temperature, manual?
Cheers
Ben
details from pace's website
SPECIFICATION :-
12v DC brushless water pump.
Operating voltage 10v - 15v
Amps at full flow 1.2 A
Flow rate at zero head 22 L/min
Maximum pressure 1.8 psi
Maximum water temperature 60°C
was told it would be around the 15L/min mark constant
ibizacupra
22-03-2004, 14:54
Is that on your MOs Bill?
DIdn't realise you could squeeze 15mm rear spacers in too!
Ben
No its on my old Jetta wheels TSW stealths... 7.5x16 ET35
MO's are on my wish list, but I have some 15" wheels which I am going to try and fit over the Brembo's.
Killed the Wilwoods once again... feel like square wheels with wheel hop when braking :( :( :( :( Not impressed.
Brembo's here I come... back again.
Need MO's in7.5J width tho.
regards
bill
ibizacupra
22-03-2004, 14:57
SPS, does your chargecooler pump operate at a single speed or does it have some kind of trigger that switches between low and high flow? If so then what is the trigger, boost, temperature, manual?
Cheers
Ben
Mine (Jabba's) runs on a boost switched voltage supply. 10psi switch point which almost doubles water flow on high boost.
Heat exchange rate is my limiting factor, running 20+psi boost on sustained track. (eg Cadwell on Saturday :D )
Water got a little warm, but not hot after 20mins maximum pasty action.
Bill
i have 16*7 MO's with brembos
No its on my old Jetta wheels TSW stealths... 7.5x16 ET35
MO's are on my wish list, but I have some 15" wheels which I am going to try and fit over the Brembo's.
Killed the Wilwoods once again... feel like square wheels with wheel hop when braking :( :( :( :( Not impressed.
Brembo's here I come... back again.
Need MO's in7.5J width tho.
regards
bill
Haven't you binned those Wilwoods yet? Everything you have said about them has been bad so i would of thought you would of been back to the Brembos by now. ;) I guess heat is the problem with the Brembos at the moment.
Yes, 7.5x16 MOs are the track wheels I'm going for... although I was hoping to get 215x40x16 Avon ZZR road legal trackday tyres for them, but they don't do this size. :(
details from pace's website
SPECIFICATION :-
12v DC brushless water pump.
Operating voltage 10v - 15v
Amps at full flow 1.2 A
Flow rate at zero head 22 L/min
Maximum pressure 1.8 psi
Maximum water temperature 60°C
was told it would be around the 15L/min mark constant
Cheers, but I've seen the pump spec before. Sorry if i wasn't clear... I know the pump give 15litres/min at 12V but I know that on the original Pace/Jabba Chargecooler design they had a low speed (eg. 6V 7litre/min) that then switched to full 12V 15litres/min using some kind of trigger. i was just wondering if this was stil the case, or whether the new design simply runs ar 15litres/min all the time?
Mine (Jabba's) runs on a boost switched voltage supply. 10psi switch point which almost doubles water flow on high boost.
Thats what I was talking about. Bill, did it also have a timer circuit to prevent it changing speed everytime you lift off for braking or changing gear?
Only a few more days to go SPS! :D
Ben
ibizacupra
22-03-2004, 20:15
Thats what I was talking about. Bill, did it also have a timer circuit to prevent it changing speed everytime you lift off for braking or changing gear?
Ben
No timer other than the pumps sits on the aux water pump feed and runs with engine off for 10mins (which is nice)
10psi like it or not full tilt water flow.
Jabba's pump tho not PACE's (Jabba preference of more water flow from theirs, no spec tho that I know of or can remember)
No timer other than the pumps sits on the aux water pump feed and runs with engine off for 10mins (which is nice)
10psi like it or not full tilt water flow.
Jabba's pump tho not PACE's (Jabba preference of more water flow from theirs, no spec tho that I know of or can remember)
Interesting that Jabba used their own pump. When I phoned Elton a while ago to ask about buying the kit direct from Pace or from Jabba, they said the kits were identical.... so maybe they are now using the standard Pace unit. I'll have to ask.
Getting my chargecooler fitted next week BTW. :D
Ben
yep not long to go - but going to have a huge hole in my bank account
ouch
still no news on the price yet - gettin worried it might be more than i have :blink:
yeah not sure on the pace waterpump but it does have a little box that must do something??? - never asked when i got it done
Ben - where you gettin yours done? jabba or Pace
yep not long to go - but going to have a huge hole in my bank account
ouch
still no news on the price yet - gettin worried it might be more than i have :blink:
yeah not sure on the pace waterpump but it does have a little box that must do something??? - never asked when i got it done
Ben - where you gettin yours done? jabba or Pace
I'm getting mine done at Pace. As ever I have a few custom requirements and they should be able to sort them out for me.
As for pricing, my guess is as follows:
Stage 3 Kit = £3000
Exhaust = £300
Remap = £475
Fitting = £500
Boost Controller = £150
Thats about £4500 (+charge cooler for those that haven't got one already)
On top of that it may be worth considering uprated engine mounts, and some heat shielding but I'm sure Elton will tell you if this is really necessary. And fingers crossed on your standard gearbox.
Cheers
Ben
Got an email from elton this morning - and looks like i'll be getting it done before long. Indicated a car being done the end of the month and a couple to go before me but... it's the best thing i've heard yet.
Now going through the 'god-why-the-heck-am-i-doing-something-so-crazy' frame of mind :)
ben - see if they can make the pre-rad larger as thats what i wanna do when i get a bit more money - had a look on pace's site and it works out bout £130ish
do you already have an induction kit?
ben - see if they can make the pre-rad larger as thats what i wanna do when i get a bit more money - had a look on pace's site and it works out bout £130ish
do you already have an induction kit?
Damn, you guessed my plan already! :D I'm going to Pace tommorow so that they can look at the space available and then they've agreed to do me the whole kit including a bigger pre-rad for no extra charge. :thumbup:
Do you know what the dimensions are of your standard pre-rad?
As mentioned, measuring up tommorow, and fitting will be next week.
Yes, i do have an induction kit, a Blitz one, but its not very good at filtering so I will need an induction kit too. May get the Jabba one initially but as it looks very similar to my Blitz one I expect I'll change it for one of Bills pretty soon after. Would like a CAI too.
BTW, phoned Jabba up earlier and guess what... I'm number 12 in the list! :( Not sure how that happened as last time I spoke to them i was told i was number 2 or 3! Hopefully a lot of those 11 before me will drop out though.
:crying:
Cheers
Ben
ibizacupra
24-03-2004, 07:29
getting close then guys :D
excited?
Pray for dry weather when you've had it done.... ;)
Larger pre-rad (as I suggested to you all) is a must have IMHO. ICE packed bottle only goes so far :p Track attack action will benefit from sustained cooling...
Good luck guys.
:D
bill
yeah didnt get much choice with my pre-rad - just did it for me
cant remember the actual size think its on here somewhere if ya look around (sorry dont have time)
yeah at least summers comin - good for grip - not good for temps
cant put ice in mine easily without draining the water out - got a little pot type thing
seen some people spray fire extinguishers on thier intercoolers/pre-rads at santa pod - dont know if it does much???
is their anything better than using water for heat exchange in the pre-rad - there must be. mines 50% water 50% antifreeze (i think) but i guess the viscosity must be equal to water though to flow easily. just a crazy thought for the day
ben - whats goin on with that - no. 11 cant be right. i put my name down in feb-april last year i think. when did you put your name down???
was ment to be done for USC in August last year - oh well can go this year i guess
see if pace can make up an alloy CAI - cant be too tricky for them as the other CAI that shock does the filter goes where the old intercooler is i think n thats where the cores are.
yeah didnt get much choice with my pre-rad - just did it for me
cant remember the actual size think its on here somewhere if ya look around (sorry dont have time)
yeah at least summers comin - good for grip - not good for temps
cant put ice in mine easily without draining the water out - got a little pot type thing
seen some people spray fire extinguishers on thier intercoolers/pre-rads at santa pod - dont know if it does much???
is their anything better than using water for heat exchange in the pre-rad - there must be. mines 50% water 50% antifreeze (i think) but i guess the viscosity must be equal to water though to flow easily. just a crazy thought for the day
ben - whats goin on with that - no. 11 cant be right. i put my name down in feb-april last year i think. when did you put your name down???
was ment to be done for USC in August last year - oh well can go this year i guess
see if pace can make up an alloy CAI - cant be too tricky for them as the other CAI that shock does the filter goes where the old intercooler is i think n thats where the cores are.
Is your chargecooler not plumbed into your 6.6litre washer bottle?!?!? I definately want mine plumbed into the washer bottle, not the 1/2 litre little thing that Pace do! I was told that the Jabba and Pace kits were exactly the same, but I know Jabba plumb into the washer bottle!
With regards to water and anti-freeze you should read this article on chargecoolers (Or air/water intercoolers as they call 'em):
http://www.autospeed.com/cms/article.html?&A=0090
Specifically of interest is this paragraph:
Incidentally, note that pure water is best - its specific heat value is actually degraded by 6 per cent when 23 per cent anti-freeze is added! Other commonly-available fluids don't even come close to water's specific heat value.
If you are using 50% antifreeze then you are loosing about 13% of the waters heatsoaking ability!!!
As with me being number 12 in the list, yes its a bummer but I'll have to put up with it. I was actually the FIRST person on the list way back in March 2002, ie. just after the Powerstation rolling road day when I first met Mike Trulock. The trouble is that Jabba never found any record of this booking and so I had to re-add my name again in about August last year! :(
As for the CAI, I didn't know that was where Socks one went. I'll see what Bill comes up with first.
Cheers
Ben
I forgot to mention, I went to Pace yesterday to get measured up for a larger prerad. To get a larger prerad I will have to loose the front lower mesh as its 10mm thick apparently... so I'll have to buy some of that thin mesh stuff from somewhere.
Anyway, the size they are making is 28mm thick, 190mm high and 580mm wide. I've got no idea how this compares to the standard design, so I'll have to hunt around and see if I can find the info somewhere.
I'm going in for fitting next thursday (April fools day!)
Cheers
Ben
yeah just dont run it dry with your window wipers?
has bill done this yet??
running pure water would be ok in the summer but when it freezes - dont want to think
will change it to 25% antifreeze to be safe i think - didnt know that - thats a good article
jabba still havnt had confimation of the price yet - will ring them today i think
yeah thats what i wanted pace to do originally - i told them to take it off - but they said NO. - i know mine is 18MM thick so prob about the same size
let us know how it goes - get them to do pics while they do it as they lost mine - they have a digi camera as i got printouts but nothing on a disk
shane
right got off my fat arse and out of curiosity (sp)
my pre-rad is 470 x 270 x 18mm
yours will be 1/2 as big again then.
can you ask about cost of it as i will change it once i get some money
cheers
shane
Ok, just found the dimensions in old posts:
Bills Pre-rad = 450*300*20=2,700,000mm3 volume
You original planned Prerad = 650*200*50=6,500,000mm3 volume
Your actual prerad = 470 x 270 x 18 = 2,284,200mm3 volume
My planned prerad = 580 x 190 x 28 = 3,085,600mm3 volume
My actual prerad = ???
Even though mine will have a greater volume, its interesting to note the the frontal areas too:
Bills: 450*300 = 135,000mm2
SPS: 470*270 = 126,900mm2
Mine: 580*190 = 110,200mm2
Hmmm, so mine will have the greatest volume but least frontal area.
I notice that both or your are much taller than mine. Is there any reason you know of why mine can't be that tall too?
To be honest I'm a bit disappointed now. :(
Ben
can you ask about cost of it as i will change it once i get some money
cheers
shane
They are making extra ones incase anyone wants to 'upgrade', but not sure about price.
My concern now is that although it has greater volume it actually has less frontal area, so will mine actually be any better? It could in theory be even worse! :(
Ben
Ben ..
me thinks you will be number 2 as i have nearly sold my ibiza ...As for me new leon .. well.. i enjoyed waiting for the IHI so much i have asked to go to the back of the Q and start again !! @AMD are supposed to be doin mine .. but all has gone a bit quiet for some strange reason :think:
ibizacupra
25-03-2004, 18:24
you got your new new R now then?
you got your new new R now then?
Tomorrow :thumbup:
gettin a lift to pick it up at south end in a brand new Aston DB9 .!!!! [B)] [B)] :drive1:
ibizacupra
25-03-2004, 20:02
Tomorrow :thumbup:
gettin a lift to pick it up at south end in a brand new Aston DB9 .!!!! [B)] [B)] :drive1:
LOL... you wont ever be happy with the R after that! :p
Ben ..
me thinks you will be number 2 as i have nearly sold my ibiza ...As for me new leon .. well.. i enjoyed waiting for the IHI so much i have asked to go to the back of the Q and start again !! @AMD are supposed to be doin mine .. but all has gone a bit quiet for some strange reason :think:
Even if you drop out that still only moves me from 12th to 11th. :( I wonder if you could donate me your position ;) Like when they phone you, you could tell them that you've swapped places with me. I'd buy you a pint if it worked. :D
you got your new new R now then?
What was up with the first one (Sorry if its been explained elsewhere)?
How does the Leon compare to the Ibiza? My guess is that it feels 'better' but heavier.
Cheers
Ben
Shane, I see you are running Compomotive 17*7.5 MO's. What offset are they, and what size tyres are you running on them? Also, are you running spacers with them?
Sorry, that was WAY off topic.
Are you expecting a price from Jabba BEFORE they actually fit it, or are they just gonna bill you at the end (That'll be £12k thank you sir! :-o :scary: ).
Cheers
Ben
thought u were 3rd!!
The first one was rejected under seats no quible exchange program ( very useful :D) Bad Paint repair on the front wing !!.. didnt feel comfortable parting with 16.5k knowing it was hiding something .. Twice its happened now ... both seat uk supplied cars. ( the ones that people pay very small payments per month just to get miles on them then hand em back after 6 months all ramped and battered!) The new one was privately owned
unfortunately the new one i'm picking up hasnt been revo'd . The previous one was approx 270 BHP and pretty fast.Not so quick off the mark but heaps of midrange pull. The boost starts to die another 1K RPM up the scale The chassis soaks up the extra power with ease it feels much much better equipped to handle a lot more!!. Having said that i got the back end out within an hour !! ( very light under braking and if off balance it will go !!) that is with the Shithot TCS turned off, On and it quite happily corrects any loss of traction smoothly .. cant really feel anything happen other than the yella light flashing in front of you. The Recaros!!! WOW.. the IBIZA seats are like a park bench in comparison
Are you expecting a price from Jabba BEFORE they actually fit it, or are they just gonna bill you at the end (That'll be £12k thank you sir! :-o :scary: ).
Cheers
Ben
AMD have quoted me 2250 incl VAT for all of the Jabba stage III kit.
Still waiting for price of map,cat and fitment
Guessing 450 for map , 300 cat , 400 fitting
Circa £3400 all in
As said previously the new leon is capable of handling more .. i want to test that feeling !!! :drool:
got a price of just under £4600 but that is with everything fitted (apart from the cat)
£3190 for the kit (2250 seems way too cheap for the whole kit)
price increase because of new manifold - new pipes and new downpipe
induction kit - £150
Exhaust - £300
Cat - £258 (not included in the price) as im havin it later when my MOT is due
fitting around £500 (includes a few other things - boost guage and nomad pod
re-map - £475
plus a few other things which i have forgotten to write down
oh and i'm havin a service too
ben - said it would be able to run higher boost due to the chargecooler
and they said it would make the claimed figure or 340/350bhp
Compomotive wise - they are ment to be ET35 (think thats right) but i have changed down to 7*16" as they kept rubbin the front arches but still got em on the back - looks quite good with the front a little lower
they stick out quite a way - but they said they had given me the right offset
droppin it off 2morow so here goes nothing. - except £4600 odd
watch out - theres gonna be another IHI'd beeza about
that had better include VAT!
cpufreak
26-03-2004, 16:33
that had better include VAT!
and an Aston DB9 courtesy car whilst yours gets done :p
yeah it includes VAT
dropped it off today gonna be crap havin no car for a week though
saw the turbo - looks nice - and the downpipe looks good too.
the exhaust is twin rounded - looks just like a civic typr R job - or a jetex one
looks proper nice
ibizacupra
28-03-2004, 13:11
Be nice of you to join the club....
Woosh tastic, but be careful....
What suspension you running?
Brakes?
Bill
Brembo conversion from you and H&R coilovers - got the important stuff done first
yeah will do - not used to loads of power - will run it on low boost me thinks till i get used to that then have a play when i get to know it a bit better
what sort of times were you doin when you had yours done?
0-60
1/4 mile
0-100
etc
just to tease me n the others again
got a price of just under £4600 but that is with everything fitted (apart from the cat)
£3190 for the kit (2250 seems way too cheap for the whole kit)
price increase because of new manifold - new pipes and new downpipe
induction kit - £150
Exhaust - £300
Cat - £258 (not included in the price) as im havin it later when my MOT is due
fitting around £500 (includes a few other things - boost guage and nomad pod
re-map - £475
plus a few other things which i have forgotten to write down
oh and i'm havin a service too
ben - said it would be able to run higher boost due to the chargecooler
and they said it would make the claimed figure or 340/350bhp
Compomotive wise - they are ment to be ET35 (think thats right) but i have changed down to 7*16" as they kept rubbin the front arches but still got em on the back - looks quite good with the front a little lower
they stick out quite a way - but they said they had given me the right offset
droppin it off 2morow so here goes nothing. - except £4600 odd
watch out - theres gonna be another IHI'd beeza about
Yeah thats pretty much the price I was expecting.
Let us know if you get any progress reports... and I'll be especially interested to see what you end results are power/torque wise. Any chance yoi can scan and post the graphs?
I'm getting excited now. The thing is, I'm more confused about where I am on the list now that ever. I've asked Jabba several times where I am on the list and so far I've been told (Not in this order) 2nd, 3rd or 4th, 12th, 23rd!!!! See why I'm confused!!! That could be the difference between getting it done in a months time or a years time!
Good luck, and as already mentioned, take it easy for a bit.
Cheers
Ben
thought u were 3rd!!
See above. Don't really know where I am! :(
AMD have quoted me 2250 incl VAT for all of the Jabba stage III kit.
Still waiting for price of map,cat and fitment
Guessing 450 for map , 300 cat , 400 fitting
Circa £3400 all in
As said previously the new leon is capable of handling more .. i want to test that feeling !!!
£2250 inc Vat? Unfortunately I'd guess that they've got that VERY wrong, but if not then you've got one hell of a deal!
Jabbas core Stage 3 kit price is now about £3200 and ten you have all the extra on top of that.
Think it works out at £5500 if you get everything (Inc chargecooler)!
Ben
extract from email ........"For the turbo charger, exhaust manifold, 3" flexible joint, outlet pipe, turbo water pipe, exhaust elbow for the down pipe we have a Jabba quoted cost of £2220.99 Inc VAT. This is with out the fuel system changes, hi flow injectors, the other water pipe, oil feed and return fabrication, air in and return to the inlet manifold, mating the exhaust up, rolling road mapping time,"
guess the other water pipe , fuel changes & pipe matings are about £1k!!
Fuel system changes :confused: i know about the injectors .. but he has already mentioned that ( not changing the fuel pump .. apparently that is sufficient ) .. what else ???
extract from email ........"For the turbo charger, exhaust manifold, 3" flexible joint, outlet pipe, turbo water pipe, exhaust elbow for the down pipe we have a Jabba quoted cost of £2220.99 Inc VAT. This is with out the fuel system changes, hi flow injectors, the other water pipe, oil feed and return fabrication, air in and return to the inlet manifold, mating the exhaust up, rolling road mapping time,"
guess the other water pipe , fuel changes & pipe matings are about £1k!!
Fuel system changes :confused: i know about the injectors .. but he has already mentioned that ( not changing the fuel pump .. apparently that is sufficient ) .. what else ???
Maybe AMD have made a mistake, or maybe you really are getting an excellent deal!
Also, maybe Jabba are doing AMD a deal, and maybe AMD accidently quoted you the 'cost' price to them, but then they may add their profit margin on top too?
All I can think of fuel wise is the injectors, FPR and pump. I presume the fuel pump in the Leon is rated higher than the Ibizas, as we know the Ibizas definately isn't sufficient!
Cheers
Ben
Any news on how its going?
I'm off to Pace tommorow to get my chargecooler fitted, and my mate is working in Peterborough tommorow too, so I'll probably spend the day giving him a hand in Peterborough.... may pop into Jabba whilst I'm there. :)
Ben
no news yet - only i have asked them to look at my brakes as the wheels and brakes are exactly the same as thiers and mine stick out a good 1/4 inch over the arches and thiers dont
will phone them 2morow
yeah pop in to make sure they are workin on it - should have the turbo on by now - was booked in on friday for the remap
have a look at my wheels and see if you can see anything
cant wait for the call 'come and get it'- should be good
shane
Unfortunately I didn't have a chance to pop into Jabba. I was busy getting messed around by Pace!!! Only after I arrived did they tell me that they hadn't made the kit and so they'd need my car for TWO days (I was meant to be driving home in it that same day!).
Anyway, I had to go pick it up this morning (6:20am start, train, london underground, train, coach, taxi). Took over 4 hours to get there, and 1 hour 30 mins to get home.... don't you just love public transport!
I haven't had a chance to 'test' the chargecooler yet but it looks ok. Apparently they made about 4 different designs for my car to try and find the biggest one that would fit! But to be honest I'm a little disappointed because the prerad stops before the lower gap in the front bumpers... so thats a lot of potential air thats been lost.
Still, got a cracking deal. £600+V for the whole kit, parts and fitting, including the larger pre-rad. :)
Sorry, gone off topic again.
SPS, did you get a chance to phone them. (I hope I'm not hastling you, I'm just excited on your behalf! :D)
Ben
no they have had some problems with the blue flame exhaust
it doesnt fit
so going to have my old milltek on there insted and wait till they have sorted it out
but they did have the turbo and manifold on
this was on thursday - didnt get time on sat to phone them to ask how its going as i was too busy nursing my bad head from the night before and the smallest of noises hurt
gonna phone them 1st thing monday and ask for a progress report and how long
gettin excited now as my mates been running me round in his 250bhp R5 turbo just to wind me up
let u know soon as i hear anything
shane
ibizacupra
05-04-2004, 07:30
.... the prerad stops before the lower gap in the front bumpers... so thats a lot of potential air thats been lost.
Ben
Could you post a picture of your prerad, front end shot Ben?
:cheers:
bill
Could you post a picture of your prerad, front end shot Ben?
:cheers:
bill
Yep, no problem. Could be a few days though as I have got to take the bumper off (I have to fit a new mesh as the original lower grill got in the way (Its about 15mm thick!!!)).
I'm not sure what the final size is as they changed the design several times during fitting. I can see that its a stepped design... ie. the top half is twice as fat as the bottom half.
If the rad hadn't been at an angle then they could of got a much bigger pre-rad in there.... I wish I had moved the rad beforehand like everyone does when fitting an FMIC.
Still, the car 'feels' quite a bit more powerful now. Not sure if its in my head but I feels significantly better.
Shane,
Thats bad news about the Blue Flame exhausts. :( No exactly surprising though given how much they messed up the downpipes!
I guess this could delay the kits even more? ie. they will finish your car off using your Miltek and then they wont book any more Ibizas in until they have a new set of redesigned exhausts in from Blue Flame!!! I hope not!
So if the turbo etc are all on then I guess it wont be long before you get it back! :D I hope you get good RR results.
Cheers
Ben
phoned them up and i wont get it back till the middle of next week as they dont have any time available on the RR as it was booked in for friday just gone - dont know why they didnt phone me to tell me bout it as soon as they found out - then they could have got on with it.
bit annoyed but then nothing i have done to any of my cars has gone according to plan - has anyone elses? :rolleyes:
anyway wont be any news till next week now - but they have done everthing elton said its just waitin till the RR is free and they have time to do it - dont want it rushed plus when i'm spendin that much want it to be spot on. took me a year to save and dont want to **** it up over a week.
ben - whats goin on with your cage now?
let you guys know as soon as i know anything
Shane
Thats a bummer with the weeks delay! :( I would of thought they could slot you in for an hour or two each day and just map it over a number of days, but maybe they really are THAT busy. As you say, best get it spot on rather than rushed.
Custom Cages totally shafted me! :( I was looking at booking it in around November time but I couldn't find any contact details for them... then I got some details around January time and booked it in. The earliest they could book it for was April 5th, so thats when I booked it for. Take the car to them and they say that they can do it no problem. Then 2 days before its due to go in they phone and say they don't want to do it!!!! Could of bloody told me that ages ago so that I could go elsewhere!!!! :censored:
I'm still planning on getting a cage though, just got to find another company. The obvious choice is Safety Devices, but they are VERY expensive (£2k ish!!!). People on here have given me some other companies to try, so I'll have a ring around. Are you thinking of getting a cage then Shane?
Cheers
Ben
no, cant get a cage as i cart my mates around too much
yeah safety devices are just down the road from me like in the next village where those murders were - soham - but i hear they are quite good - but for £2k they should be.
might get one in a few years time when i can afford another run around plus money is an issue £2K :-o
didnt those rockingham cars have full cages?? where did they get them done?
ibizacupra
06-04-2004, 11:45
didnt those rockingham cars have full cages?? where did they get them done?
Custom Cages.
:rolleyes:
hopkinsgm
06-04-2004, 11:46
...didnt those rockingham cars have full cages?? where did they get them done...
They were done by Custom Cages I believe. There were a bunch of those cages up for sale on here last summer that ended up going for £50 each - at least that's what I paid for the one that's sitting around in my garage anyway. Just trying to decide whether it's worth attempting to modify to suit Scirocco (first measurements suggest it shouldn't be too much work) or get an "off the peg" Safety Devices cage for that - quoted around £400 incl. VAT & shipping a couple of months back for a 6 point bolt in.
ooppps didnt know :redface:
ooppps didnt know :redface:
Yes the Rockingham cages were made by Custom Cages, and I actually have one already, but it doesn't meet my requirements.
Still deciding what to do. I guess the options are go for a custom made cage now, or leave it a year or two, buy a new car and strip the Ibiza out as a trackday car complete with a normal (Not customised) cage.
Hmmm.
Ben
phoned them up and i wont get it back till the middle of next week as they dont have any time available on the RR as it was booked in for friday just gone - dont know why they didnt phone me to tell me bout it as soon as they found out - then they could have got on with it.
Shane
Gone a bit quiet on the Jabba front recently. Can't believe how furious people were with Jabba back in October and I STILL haven't got my IHI. :(
I guess your car is being mapped today or tommorow then Shane, and then its ready??!?!? Lucky git! ;)
Ben
yep being done today but dont know if i can pick it up tonight or 2morow
as soon as i know will let u guys know
just to wind u up :bleh:
wonder what i can take on first - 911? M3? oh the choices
oh well off back to watch the clock (getting slower it seems) and sit by the phone again
shane
reckon you should take care 1st!! don't go racing straight off, be a shame not to hear from you again (if you get my drift)
yeah i know
gonna try it at low boost first (still about 250BHP i've been told)
then wack it up for santapod n track use if i ever get round to properly testing my coilovers.
oh just got off the phone and its being mapped as we speak
come on baby
freaky - i was gonna say 'start low' - that's what one of the guys did with his evo which is highly adjustable boost wise
just started off on the lowest & gradually moved up the range.
reading this thread with interest shane update every 2 hours lol :drool: :clap:
vern
slim_boy_fat
14-04-2004, 14:55
freaky - i was gonna say 'start low' - that's what one of the guys did with his evo which is highly adjustable boost wise
just started off on the lowest & gradually moved up the range.
Sod that ramp the boost right up and give it some, get the full experience as it will wear off very quickly, show you where your money is going. :thumbup:
Are you a man or a mouse!!!! :D
You know when you are really unwell and you just get to the loo?????
You sit there with SH** running out and then you spew all over the wall.You don't know which to do and which to catch?
TURN UP THE BOOST TO MAX/FIND A QUIET ROAD AND FLOOR IT!!!
You won't know whether to laugh like an asylum inmate or SH** yourself
It doesn't matter 'coz you now own a seriously cool toy........Enjoy :thumbup:
SIT ON A TOWEL
half of me wants to just say hell to it and go all out attack
the other says - **** sake u've just blown ur life savins on a ****in car - take it easy
wonder who wins the day :D
oh well 2morow it is, as i still have heard no new news from them - i phoned at 5.15 and it was still on the rollers - how long can it take???
i have a twitchy right foot - it cant keep still
ibizacupra
14-04-2004, 18:19
Patience and big respect for the loud pedal.
you could always have self control on the throttle and wind it up to high boost, on a quiet, open, flat 'n level piece of ground and turn TCS off... or on... depends if yours has the better TCS working on it. (mines shite, waiting update on code one day when I get a min)
nope my TC system is as good as a nun at a swingers party. crap
think it just cuts the fuel or something - feels like all the power goes then a second or 2 delay then it comes back. much better with it off
dont u have an S3 ecu? jabbas felt quite good at sortin out the power last time i drove it.
have to get used to playin with the throttle
what power u running now and what else have u done to get it.
havnt driven mine and i want more power already :rolleyes:
and what sort of level do you run it on the road when just going from A - B
god i'm impatient.
shane
ibizacupra
14-04-2004, 21:21
nope my TC system is as good as a nun at a swingers party. crap
think it just cuts the fuel or something - feels like all the power goes then a second or 2 delay then it comes back. much better with it off
dont u have an S3 ecu? jabbas felt quite good at sortin out the power last time i drove it.
have to get used to playin with the throttle
what power u running now and what else have u done to get it.
havnt driven mine and i want more power already :rolleyes:
and what sort of level do you run it on the road when just going from A - B
god i'm impatient.
shane
Jabba were supposed to be doing something cleaver on the ECU so you would benefit from the same S3 stylee TCS system which works well on their car. Mine SUX! just like the stock Ibiza did, despite S3 ecu in mine. :hide:
Seeing as you have'nt driven it yet, you may well get a nice surprise (if) they do what they said they're goign to. ;)
On the road I usually run on 10psi boost (low) but occasionally (more frequent) I find myself on full..... 20+psi... :whistle:
what sort or MPG do you get??
mike said it would be better on motorways about high 30's.
oohhh 12 hours
LEO LION R
15-04-2004, 07:05
LOL
Yeah if your doing 56mph on the motorway - maybe ;) :D
Jabba were supposed to be doing something cleaver on the ECU so you would benefit from the same S3 stylee TCS system which works well on their car. Mine SUX! just like the stock Ibiza did, despite S3 ecu in mine. :hide:
Seeing as you have'nt driven it yet, you may well get a nice surprise (if) they do what they said they're goign to. ;)
On the road I usually run on 10psi boost (low) but occasionally (more frequent) I find myself on full..... 20+psi... :whistle:
Really? I once asked Jabba if anything could be done to improve the TCS on the Ibiza and they said no, its not possible. They then said that the S3 ECU as on your car has much better TCS, but from what you are saying that sounds untrue.
Any idea what it was they were gonna do to improve it?
As it is the TCS is dangerous, especially on a car with rear ARBs and a Quaife diff... you floor it around a corner and it slides a bit, the TCS cuts the power and the back end comes around. React by countersteering and flooring the throtlle except that the throttle still doesn't work due to the TCS. Spin. :(
Ben
ibizacupra
15-04-2004, 13:38
what sort or MPG do you get??
..... high 30's.
oohhh 12 hours
High 30's?
Not a chance... never had it.
low to mid 30's in my experience driving legally.
less than 10mpg when hoofing it.
ibizacupra
15-04-2004, 14:10
Really? I once asked Jabba if anything could be done to improve the TCS on the Ibiza and they said no, its not possible. They then said that the S3 ECU as on your car has much better TCS, but from what you are saying that sounds untrue.
Any idea what it was they were gonna do to improve it?
As it is the TCS is dangerous, especially on a car with rear ARBs and a Quaife diff... you floor it around a corner and it slides a bit, the TCS cuts the power and the back end comes around. React by countersteering and flooring the throtlle except that the throttle still doesn't work due to the TCS. Spin. :(
Ben
My S3 ecu does'nt work like Jabba's S3 ecu from the same ecu part #! DOH!
Do I know what he was going to do to improve it? - Yes. Hopefully it works too.
and no I can't say. ;)
TCS is crap, off - on.... Not ever had the scenario you describe tho Ben, although it has occured to me this is 'potentially likely' under the wrong circumstances.. Had a slide a couple of years ago, 70mph ish sweeping bend where the rear end slid wider applied power to pull it out so find TCS was blinking at me... and I had no power to correct... EAK! Gizmos's eh! Was just chipped and no ARB's back then either..
TCS on mine now is OFF OFF when restricting power... under acceleration... BANG BANG as it clips the ign and pops...
All good fun.
Fingers crossed the TCS is as good as Jabba's is..
yep - jabba had done the S3 ecu trick and my ecu is now an S3 acording to any dignostics machine. its the best but still when it does need to kick in **** you feel it when at 70 - its like the brakes are on for a sec then the powers back - loads better than before.
mike said he wanted to keep it hush hush as he wasnt sure it would work prop. but belive me it does
ibizacupra
16-04-2004, 07:47
yep - jabba had done the S3 ecu trick and my ecu is now an S3 acording to any dignostics machine. its the best but still when it does need to kick in **** you feel it when at 70 - its like the brakes are on for a sec then the powers back - loads better than before.
mike said he wanted to keep it hush hush as he wasnt sure it would work prop. but belive me it does
I want mine reflashed soon then... :) Better TCS would help things...
Mikes Jabba Ibiza set faster times than me :hide: at the recent Buntingthorpe test now I've seen the results... RESPECT.. wonder if the smoother TCS had anything to do with that... Mines firmly off when doing sprints etc.
LOL, wheelspin @ 70mph.... makes you think does'nt it...
In the wet 3rd gear lights up >100mph
Be careful.
regards
bill
I want mine reflashed soon then... :) Better TCS would help things...
Mikes Jabba Ibiza set faster times than me :hide: at the recent Buntingthorpe test now I've seen the results... RESPECT.. wonder if the smoother TCS had anything to do with that... Mines firmly off when doing sprints etc.
LOL, wheelspin @ 70mph.... makes you think does'nt it...
In the wet 3rd gear lights up >100mph
Be careful.
regards
bill
Are Jabba running 1/4 miles with TCS on then! :o Must be good.
How does your car (Bill) compare to Jabbas now, power wise?
Ben
So, with Shanes (SPS) Ibiza IHI'd now, do we know who is next on the list?
Has anyone had the call yet? I presume Jabba are getting the next one straight in?
Thanks
Ben
Still patiently waiting, and still thinking that maybe this summer will be a lot more fun :)
Still waiting although at no. 7 me's thinking end of the year at the earliest! :(
Still waiting although at no. 7 me's thinking end of the year at the earliest! :(
just in time for the snow then mate, ;) Tbh i think these conversions will move quicker once a few have been done,(when the proper r+d starts) :bleh: and any probs will have been sorted hopefully..............
vern
ibizacupra
18-04-2004, 17:56
Are Jabba running 1/4 miles with TCS on then! :o Must be good.
How does your car (Bill) compare to Jabbas now, power wise?
Ben
Not a lot in it... 10bhp maybe... and a few more lbft torque from my higher boost.
I swear theirs feels faster than mine tho on pick up... Got an experiment to do on fuelling which might identify it...
ibizacupra
18-04-2004, 17:57
just in time for the snow then mate, ;) Tbh i think these conversions will move quicker once a few have been done,(when the proper r+d starts) :bleh: and any probs will have been sorted hopefully..............
vern
Proper R&D? LMAO.... 15months of abuse on mine and Jabba's all aiding the development of the kit...
You guys are getting a better kit than I have. DOH!
:bleh: :rolleyes: :whistle: :hide:
Still waiting although at no. 7 me's thinking end of the year at the earliest! :(
Well as I've been told I'm number 2, 3, 7, 22, 23 amoungst other numbers I have absolutely no idea where I really am in the list but certainly wont be happy if I have to wait until the end of the year!
Let me know if anyone get the call. I have a feeling that they wont be getting anyone else in for a little while for some reason... probably say that they are ironing out the issues with the Blue Flame exhaust. Hopefully I'll be proved wrong.
Atleast some progress has been made now, Shane you lucky git! ;)
Ben
ibizacupra
19-04-2004, 10:01
Well as I've been told I'm number 2, 3, 7, 22, 23 amoungst other numbers , Ben
Ben you use these are your lucky lotto numbers mate... You never know.. They might actually be 'lucky'..
If they are remember me when you win millions ;)
yes i am a lucky git what can i say. :bleh:
Ben you use these are your lucky lotto numbers mate... You never know.. They might actually be 'lucky'..
If they are remember me when you win millions ;)
:roflmao: I may well give that a go! :thumbup:
Ben
Shock_Xe
20-04-2004, 13:17
Benm, was told by a little birdie you were next on the list