View Full Version : Whoever said a MK4 Ibiza was ugly?
cpufreak
07-04-2004, 15:53
I've ordered the FR lower grills to go on it, but they've not yet arrived...
even still, I took a few snaps this afternoon as I was driving about, and looking at them (with my rose tinted glasses), fail to see how anyone can think the ibiza looks anything other than great :p
See here: http://badger.ing.me.uk/gallery/Car
not a fan of the mk4 myself, but that is one of the best looking ones ive seen, rear and front 3/4 shots look great :thumbup:
BeezerDiesel
07-04-2004, 16:01
The mk 4 IS ugly!!!
But you've made the best of it!!!
Seriously though 17's make all the difference to the mk4 just like 16s do on a mk2/3 - balances the styling out a lot.
keebo_sioux
07-04-2004, 16:19
The mk 4 IS ugly!!!
But you've made the best of it!!!
Seriously though 17's make all the difference to the mk4 just like 16s do on a mk2/3 - balances the styling out a lot.
the mk4 is a beauty compared to the mk2! :bleh:
BeezerDiesel
07-04-2004, 16:20
Not on your Nelly!
No the MK4 is a nice car!
Andy, the car and the photography is stunning! I need to get some new shots of mine done!
keebo_sioux
07-04-2004, 16:24
we'll have to agree to disagree on that, m8, as I never felt anything like the pride I now feel when I look out the window to see my Tdi beezer, when I had the mk2 beezer Estillo.
...and that was a limited edition, pmsl!
BeezerDiesel
07-04-2004, 16:28
Didn't feel any pride when I looked at either my mk2 or mk3 but it's still a better styled car than the mk4 IMO. MK4 - Modern yes, pretty no.
driveforward
07-04-2004, 16:34
not a fan of the mk4 myself, but that is one of the best looking ones ive seen, rear and front 3/4 shots look great :thumbup:
You made Sooty cry :crying:
Looking great Andy!
Tom: If you do new photos - make sure you include the ducks! :p
Andy + Tom : mail scnssc@seatcupra.net with any new pics and specs!!! NOW. ;)
you were doing very well till you took pics of the front,its far too narrow looking for the stout side and rear of the car,and why do they insist on putting bloody rubbing strips on them for f*ck sake,looks lumpy and vile imho,
It looks great especially in pics 2 and 3! Definitely looks much better with 17's and a slight lowering. :thumbup:
well i've always said the MK4 look boring.................until i saw the kit the MK4 beeza CUPRA TDi has on. boys if you wanna look good get this on yer MK4 check it
still needs skirts though :p
cpufreak
07-04-2004, 20:31
still needs skirts though :p
we've seen the Cupra. Part of me thinks the styling of the Cupra is really nice (see a poll in the TDi Section where I'm debating swapping my Ibiza sport for a cupra), but once the rear spacers are on, and I've the honeycombe lower grill at the front, my car will begin to look less boring, and at the same time, less Blatant than the Cupra.
(the other part of me thinks the styling on the new Cupra is a little OTT, and likely to attract the wrong kind of attention)
Like the wheels on the Ibiza Cupra ;)
Motor looks nice Andy, just shows how a back ground can alter a pic and show just how a car looks as oppsed to a carpark at Tesco's or summat. I took a few scenic shots of mine whist in Wales..
http://images.fotopic.net/?id=3604697&outx=600&oq=0
http://images.fotopic.net/?id=3604709&outx=600&oq=0
bigger pics of the Ibiza cupra are on our Geneva Motor Show article on the mainsite.
The main problem with the Mk4 is the largely characterless sheet metal above the wheelarches, mainly on the front. Compare that to many other cars and you'll find there isn't as much of it there, this is because of two reasons 1) it isn't there and/or 2) a crease or less "blobby" surfacing breaks up the mass.
Also having no surface,edge/rim around the wheelarch doesn't help either, it doesn't break up the surface
Thats why the car generally looks undertyred. Looks even worse on the Cordoba, where the height of the boot makes it look heavier, so that the proportion of bodywork to glass looks wrong.
its a really basic rule of car design actually, so I'm suprised its happened. Can't think of any other car that looks quite so under tyred. It maybe this reason why the Cupra doesn't have side skirts as it makes the body coloured area taller.
Having said that, those 17" rims do really help and pretty much the first Ibiza4 which doesn't look undertyred.
The Fabia pics are a good example. The bulbous wheelarches (which would work really well on the Ibiza), and the more angled bonnet help reduce the visual height, yet at the c/l of the wheel the bonnet is probably the same height as the Ibiza (as they share engines etc.
we need to be careful when saying cupra. as they are bringing out a petrol cupra as well as the FR.
Were looking at a Cupra TDi here. not seen the petrol one yet ;)
The Fabia pics are a good example. The bulbous wheelarches (which would work really well on the Ibiza), and the more angled bonnet help reduce the visual height, yet at the c/l of the wheel the bonnet is probably the same height as the Ibiza (as they share engines etc.
you seem to have good points on designs there
Petrol and Diesel Cupra is externally the same. FR different model, again in Petrol and Diesell
cpufreak
07-04-2004, 20:41
Like the wheels on the Ibiza Cupra ;)
Motor looks nice Andy, just shows how a back ground can alter a pic and show just how a car looks as oppsed to a carpark at Tesco's or summat. I took a few scenic shots of mine whist in Wales..
http://images.fotopic.net/?id=3604697&outx=600&oq=0
http://images.fotopic.net/?id=3604709&outx=600&oq=0
cheers ross...and mmm I do like your Fabia :D
as you said a good backdrop, makes the foreground look so much nicer.
I went out with the intention of finding photogenic places to take snaps of my car, not only did it make for fun drive (lots and lots and lots of B roads), also ended up with the first photos I have of my car which I'm happy of, as they do it justice.
I think andyb was saying my car looked nice :)
And I would be suprised if the TDi and Petrol Cupras look any different other than badging
driveforward
07-04-2004, 20:42
we need to be careful when saying cupra. as they are bringing out a petrol cupra as well as the FR.
Were looking at a Cupra TDi here. not seen the petrol one yet ;)
Yup.. start with the best ;)
Petrol and Diesel Cupra is externally the same. FR different model, again in Petrol and Diesell
hummmm didn't know they were doing a TDi FR. well i can go to sleep tonight having learn't something today..............nice one :D
IMO these sportier models have been a long time comin
http://www.seatcupra.net/feature_geneva04_2.htm
quote:
SEAT is soon launching the Ibiza Cupra equipped with a potent, 180 hp (132 kW) turbocharged 1.8 litre 20V unit, making the Ibiza one of the fastest and most powerful front-wheel drive vehicles in its segment
I sort of assumed it would be the same, The bumph on the press site seems to indicate so
cpufreak
07-04-2004, 20:43
Having said that, those 17" rims do really help and pretty much the first Ibiza4 which doesn't look undertyred.
Thats also helped by the fact I've 10mm spacers at the front (needed to clear the brake callipers), so the wheels really fill out the wheel arches.
15mm spacers will be on teh back in due course (probably end of next week or something), which again will help the wheels fill out the arches and reduce the undertyred look - whilst additionally increasing stability at "above moderate velocities" :p
I think andyb was saying my car looked nice :)
And I would be suprised if the TDi and Petrol Cupras look any different other than badging
looks the dogs danglies
Yup.. start with the best ;)
remove the cloud of smoke when you put your foot down and they would be the best............but not until then lol
PS i don't want to get in a petrol vs diesel contest, they have been done before and i like them both :p
cpufreak
07-04-2004, 20:51
remove the cloud of smoke when you put your foot down and they would be the best............but not until then lol
PS i don't want to get in a petrol vs diesel contest, they have been done before and i like them both :p
The soot cloud is half the fun.
Its not something to be ashamed of - why else did Ian put straight out tail pipes on the back of sooty? :D
driveforward
07-04-2004, 20:55
The soot cloud is half the fun.
Its not something to be ashamed of - why else did Ian put straight out tail pipes on the back of sooty? :D
That's the spirit :p
Thats also helped by the fact I've 10mm spacers at the front (needed to clear the brake callipers), so the wheels really fill out the wheel arches.
Aah, of course. I've seen the 17's before already but they didn't look that good! :thumbup:
Mine would desperately need spacers, too, but for starters they're illegal here. And I'm afraid of what they'd do to wheel bearings and such. Plus of course yet another costly mod only to make the car look better. :(