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Stephen O
04-05-2004, 16:31
Alrite Fella's. Ive just got an Ibiza tdi 130 Sport, and love the performance for a diesel. I read a lot on various post's about tuning/chipping the pd engine. But which gives the best overall performance bhp per pound. Ive seen posts about box's that trick the Ecu and are relatively cheap compared to Revo'in at £500+. Any comments appreciated. Also is it worth buying the Seat Sport Strutbrace?
Stephen O
04-05-2004, 18:19
Another question, The yellow surrounds around the dash clocks, is it possible to re-paint these in a different colour?
Stephen O
04-05-2004, 19:07
Anybody out there???
Hello m8, if you want to know about making any mods to a 130 sprort TDI, try cpufreak.....He almost all mods done ;) Looks good too, dont tell him i said that though!!!!!
corsags1
04-05-2004, 19:19
Hello and welcome chick!!!!
Welcome to SCN, I drive Skoda's cousin to the Ibiza 130 Sport. Just about everything ive modded on mine also applies to the Ibiza, and ive got a strut brace, good buy, about £50 form you local dealer and very easy to fit, get one!
And regarding tuning boxes and remaps a tuning box will give you a performance increase, but not as good as a custom remap. A tuning box for the most part just fools the engine management into over fueling the car. Where as a remap will increase fuel, boost and comencement of injection across the rev range.
Stephen O
04-05-2004, 19:38
Looking good techie!! I suppose a re-map is fortune's?
Stephen O
04-05-2004, 19:41
Just had a gander at the Amd site. 185 BHP!! :) That would be great, not bad for £550 either! Bet your Fab goes like stink!
Price varies, we charge £550 plus VAT for the remap which is custom done on a rolling road with printouts.
Some are cheaper, some more expensive, but all do the same thing of there abouts. It depends on what features you want.
Just had a gander at the Amd site. 185 BHP!! :) That would be great, not bad for £550 either! Bet your Fab goes like stink!
Its got a little more than 185 bhp now, but its had a fair bit more done to it. ;)
Stephen O
04-05-2004, 19:44
So, How much quicker over the standard 130 does is actually feel. In real world terms.
I see from your pics you had/have the Leon Cupra style wheels, are they 17 inch? If so where did you get em?
Even a regular remap feels so much better. Where as the pull ussually fades out higher up the rev range and at higher sppeds with the remap it keeps pulling on and on.
But you really do need to think about upgrading the suspension and the brakes to cope with it all.
Stephen O
04-05-2004, 19:47
Well will be doing those as well. As well as junking the standard rims. Are those 17 inch Cupra rims?
I do have a set of 17" Cupra rims with tyres (and they are for sale atm, PM me if your interested), but im now running on TT Comp wheels, flying in the face of SCN opinion I think they look better suited to the Fabia's chunky lines.
TT comps,
http://images.fotopic.net/?id=3911089&outx=600&oq=0
17" Cupra rims,
http://images.fotopic.net/?id=2621850&outx=600&oq=0
Welcome to Briskoda, I drive Skoda's cousin to the Ibiza 130 Sport. Just about everything ive modded on mine also applies to the Ibiza, and ive got a strut brace, good buy, about £50 form you local dealer and very easy to fit, get one!
And regarding tuning boxes and remaps a tuning box will give you a performance increase, but not as good as a custom remap. A tuning box for the most part just fools the engine management into over fueling the car. Where as a remap will increase fuel, boost and comencement of injection across the rev range.
welcome to where? ;)
Ahem, edited...sorry
Slip of the tongue, or keyboard as it were.
Stephen O
04-05-2004, 19:54
I didnt think they did 17 inch cupra rims?
They do for the european market apparently where Brembos are a option, even though they fit over them anyhow?
I got them from the SEAT dealer I used to work at.
I see your in manchester... im around there too.. should have my car chipped within the next few months :)
Oh and as Ross pointed out.. brakes are terrible..
Ive got 312mm items from a Octavia vRS (coz they are green - but audi TT/Leon Cupra/S3 are the same) and it makes a big improvement :D
Stephen O
04-05-2004, 19:58
So its not what you know its who you know! Nice wheels!
Stephen O
04-05-2004, 19:59
You'll have to give me a demo!
They seem ok to me? 288MM Discs should be ample to haul the tdi to a halt, do the 312mm conv fit behind standard rims?
Yes they do, and no the std brakes arent really up to the task im afraid, 312mm upgrade is a good cheapish route. For the ultimate, GT Brembo's are the way.
You'll have to give me a demo!
They seem ok to me? 288MM Discs should be ample to haul the tdi to a halt, do the 312mm conv fit behind standard rims?
they do indeed :D
http://www.briskoda.net/gallery/data/531/271IMG_1495_Medium_-med.JPG
toXXin has just had a set fitted too, ive started a trend :whistle:
Stephen O
04-05-2004, 20:04
I work for a motor factors so getting the bits to do wont be a prob! Another mod on the list! :idea:
they do indeed :D
http://www.briskoda.net/gallery/data/531/271IMG_1495_Medium_-med.JPG
toXXin has just had a set fitted too, ive started a trend :whistle:
lol, a trend in whos fitting them aswell ;)
lol, a trend in whos fitting them aswell ;)
Ahh well... Professional service... very reasonable prices :bleh:
Stephen O
04-05-2004, 20:18
Seems to be more Vrs drivers here than Ibiza drivers! Lol!!
:roflmao:
the Ibiza owners will be around soon.. :D
Most of them are too busy on Briskoda..lol
Stephen O
05-05-2004, 21:14
Priced up the calipers and discs today. Would work at around £170 all in. Hows that compare to what you guys paid? How much are Brembo's? Around £800 i bet!
That sounds on the money :) is that calipers and carriers from a scrappers?
Stephen O
05-05-2004, 22:02
No that's re-con calipers, new discs's but no carrier's. Would have to source.
Ahh the carriers can be the tricky bits to source.
Bill (aka Badger5,Ibizacupra) sells the Brembo kits for under £700.
We do them for £895 + VAT fitted.
You would need the Caliper Carriers too.
best bet is from a scrapper.. off a tt/s3/leon cupra
they will charge about 50 a corner. (my green ones were £55 each from a scrapyard) problem is.. carriers are £95 new from dealers.. so its cheaper to get the lot from scrappers.
Ahh the carriers can be the tricky bits to source.
Bill (aka Badger5,Ibizacupra) sells the Brembo kits for under £700.
We do them for £895 + VAT fitted.
oh god.. not you again?
:worship:
cpufreak
07-05-2004, 14:19
hello
bit slow responding, been away on *ahem* business in Amsterdam (no, I'm not a drug dealer) :p (ISP conference thing).
most of the important points have been said already.
in regards the surrounds in the dash, you could take the ones froma MY04 ibiza, which don't have the yellow surrounds (but then you loose a couple of gauges or something). Painting probably wouldn't look good.
Would recommend sorting suspension + brakes before touching power. - either the Seatsport kit (which is Sachs dampers with eibach pro springs), or something from a 3rd party tuner.- insurance seem to prefer Seat kit, and I can vouch for it being good.
Brembo's are very good, but expensive reduce the q-car look of the ibiza sport somewhat, so 312mm conversion is good value alternative.
Strut brace improves turn in lots - Forge have brought out an alternative to the Seatsport one now.
Wheelswise you've already noticed that the standard 16" wheels are pants :) - mine are SeatSport branded OZ wheels - see:
http://badger.ing.me.uk/brakes/brakes-Images/1.jpg
for how they look (mmm brembos).
more photos of my car at http://badger.ing.me.uk/gallery/
umm, what else.. FR grills @ front look good I think. £28quid + 20min mod, and quite effective, otherwise, as you have an extreme blue ibiza - Rage is selling bits off his, as he's upgrading to Leon Cupra TDi
See here: http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=34667
What else...oh yes, tuning.. people here have variety of maps (Revo, AMD, JabbaSport, Upsolute to name a few). I have Revo and have been very happy with it. Those with AMD or Jabba seem equally happy with their remaps, and would rave about them too.
Revo have advantage as have dealer network nationwide, which is good, and its stealth, and via serial port (which the Jabba isn't).
Induction kit or panel filter improves turbo spool up, and will wait n see what new exhaust does to my car when I get it fitted :)
enjoy your car, and welcome to the site :)
muddyboots
07-05-2004, 14:48
Another question, The yellow surrounds around the dash clocks, is it possible to re-paint these in a different colour?
I wondered the same when I bought mine, but now I'm quite attached to them. Brightens the car up and is a talking point when you have passengers !
Thank you people for the info.
I'm new here too, and guess what. I'm getting a new 130PD Sport too, should be here any day too! Took one for a test drive weeks back, and it put a huge grin on my face. Had to have one!
Thanks cpufreak for the suggestion to look at suspension/breaks first. I will do that! Although I think that I'll probably drive araund in it as it is for 6 months first. It's a massive improvement in speed and handling over what I'm used to anyway.
What does getting this stuff done do to your warranty?
via serial port (which the Jabba isn't).
It is now matey.
cpufreak
08-05-2004, 00:19
What does getting this stuff done do to your warranty?
Depends.
If you get the Suspension from Seat - ie the SeatSport kit, then there's a 24month/unlimited mileage warranty (from the date of fitment) of the suspension on your car, and the rest of the warranty is entirely valid.
If you get a 3rd party kit (like the Koni/Eibach setup Ross has), then obviously the new parts you have fitted, are covered by their own warranty. Warranty for all bits unrelated to the suspension _should_ still be valid (some dealers are difficult though), and technically (legally too?), if there is a fault, Seat would have to prove it was your uprated suspension at fault before refusing to do work under warranty, although this is I think unproven.
Obviously the more you change, the less standard parts remain, so less is covered under standard warranty, and I guess greater risk of dealer being fussy about doing warranty work on it.
cpufreak
08-05-2004, 00:20
It is now matey.
I go away for a week, and the world changes :p
- I didn't know jabba had gone serial, like Revo and AMD now, thats good news :)
simon779
08-05-2004, 12:00
I wondered the same when I bought mine, but now I'm quite attached to them. Brightens the car up and is a talking point when you have passengers !
I myself wasnt too impressed with the Lovely yellow surrounds on my dials. Why on earth seat thought these looked good on a blue car I dont know.
So before agreeing to buy I asked the garage to change the dial surrounds to black or chrome.
Sadly all the garage did was paint the dial surrounds black and very poorly resulting in it having to go back to the garage at the end of may for the whole dial panel to changed!!!!!
Will advise on the results
Stephen O
08-05-2004, 14:02
Only problem i see with the Seat Suspension kit is the bloody price! Its near enough £500. Not cheap!
techie are they the cupra wheels with the cupra rims that ur selling? and are the rims the seat sports one oz racing? And do u no if they would fit on the leon s?