View Full Version : DIESEL Tuning Parts & Turbo's
Shock_Xe
19-05-2004, 08:58
As we are starting to dcome to a close on finalising the Ibiza 20VT tuning parts we Offer, we are going to look @ Diesel Options. As I dont own one I need you Guys to give me info and Feedback!
Firstly I can source TDI 130 & 150 Turbos, do they vary from model to model and are they universal fit between varying range i.e. 90/100/110??
Also We are looking at a FMIC & CAI kit for them also as we are currently looking @ the Leon Cupra & R so between the Ibiza/Leon parts should be able to get something together for you TDI owners
Are there people interested??
Possibly interested in a CAI. Depends on what type it is. cpufreak has fitted a Dynatwist to his Mk4 Ibiza TDI Sport but I don't whether any power increases have been confirmed.
I believe the 130 & 150 turbos are different (150 slightly bigger). These are VNT turbos along with 100 & 110. The 90 is non VNT (I think???).
Any plans for exhausts on TDIs??
I'd be interested in CAI's and exhausts :thumbup:
Shock_Xe
19-05-2004, 11:38
yeah possibly everything, as when we have leon cupra stuff in place it makes exhausts that much easier as we have a basic floor plan then as we do now tih the ibiza.
also cai's will be similar both heat shielded engine bay ones and filter in bumper onces as i have done on my ibiza.
So will a TDI turbo 150 fit a 130 or lower car?? Cause i can source em for around £220 each
Jon u ruuning a mk3 tdi? if so CAI and FMIC should go on similar to the 20vt right??
yeah possibly everything, as when we have leon cupra stuff in place it makes exhausts that much easier as we have a basic floor plan then as we do now tih the ibiza.
also cai's will be similar both heat shielded engine bay ones and filter in bumper onces as i have done on my ibiza.
So will a TDI turbo 150 fit a 130 or lower car?? Cause i can source em for around £220 each
Jon u ruuning a mk3 tdi? if so CAI and FMIC should go on similar to the 20vt right??
Yeah Mk3 110 TDI, so I guess 20VT components would fit. What price are we talking for CAI?
If 150 turbo is fitted to lower power engine, then lag would be an issue I think.
Shock_Xe
19-05-2004, 20:47
Yeah Mk3 110 TDI, so I guess 20VT components would fit. What price are we talking for CAI?
If 150 turbo is fitted to lower power engine, then lag would be an issue I think.
Same as for a 20VT, maybe cheaper depending on filter price as you wont need a 330bhp rated one! :D
if u had a remap, wouldnt this sort lag or is compression different?? Can also get 130 turbo's too
Any pics of the CAI for 20VT?
Remap may work to suit bigger turbo :confused: .
Don't wanna mess with my turbo ATM - still under warranty! ;)
Shock_Xe
20-05-2004, 09:57
here (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=34340)
Hmmmmmmmmm..........undecided whether to go for engine bay or behind bumper item.
Couple of questions then:-
1. Is the engine bay mounted CAI a Dynatwist? i.e. enclosed cone filter with ducting or exposed filter with heat sheld.
2. Will the 'behind bumper' CAI require the removal of the bumper?
Shock_Xe
20-05-2004, 14:03
Hmmmmmmmmm..........undecided whether to go for engine bay or behind bumper item.
Couple of questions then:-
1. Is the engine bay mounted CAI a Dynatwist? i.e. enclosed cone filter with ducting or exposed filter with heat sheld.
2. Will the 'behind bumper' CAI require the removal of the bumper?
exposed with heatshield but cheaper than a dynatwist and a larger filter
Shouldnt need to remove bumper, I didnt, aslong as u can get under car should be ok
exposed with heatshield but cheaper than a dynatwist and a larger filter
Shouldnt need to remove bumper, I didnt, aslong as u can get under car should be ok
Cheers.
As I said, defo interested in the CAI (which ever one I decide!!) & exhaust. Heard that the 110 TDI responds well to turbo back free flowing exhaust.
IF the TDI 110, 130 and 150bhp engines are essentially the same just with slightly different turbos, then fitting a 150 turbo on a 110 or 130 engine should result in a 150 with no more or less lag than a standard 150.
Also, as Deisels are lucky enough to use Variable Geometry Turbos they can act like a small turbo (To reduce lag) during spin up, and then act like a big turbo (More power) once they get going. The same theory would work with petrol turbos, but no-one has created a reliable one for petrols yet (Best effort is the Aerocharger I believe.).
Anyway, the point of this post is to say that IF (Can anyone verify this?) the only difference between the TDI 110, 130 and 150 is the turbo then fitting a 150 turbo (And a 150 map) will result in exactly the same lag and performance a real TDI 150. Obvious I know.
Ben
You mean 115s Ben?
110 was non PD, 100 115 130 150 engines are PD.
Sorry - being a smart arse for once!
Shock_Xe
21-05-2004, 01:22
IF the TDI 110, 130 and 150bhp engines are essentially the same just with slightly different turbos, then fitting a 150 turbo on a 110 or 130 engine should result in a 150 with no more or less lag than a standard 150.
Also, as Deisels are lucky enough to use Variable Geometry Turbos they can act like a small turbo (To reduce lag) during spin up, and then act like a big turbo (More power) once they get going. The same theory would work with petrol turbos, but no-one has created a reliable one for petrols yet (Best effort is the Aerocharger I believe.).
Anyway, the point of this post is to say that IF (Can anyone verify this?) the only difference between the TDI 110, 130 and 150 is the turbo then fitting a 150 turbo (And a 150 map) will result in exactly the same lag and performance a real TDI 150. Obvious I know.
Ben
The 150 does have bigger injectors from what i read so obviously an issue, also probably has a larger exhaust and a fmic right????
You mean 115s Ben?
110 was non PD, 100 115 130 150 engines are PD.
Sorry - being a smart arse for once!
Sorry I don't know too much about the TDIs, so I'm sure you're right.
Here we go again....LOL
There alot of speculation but...
The 90 & 110 TDI are basically the same, non PD, the 110 having a VNT15 turbo and obviously different mappings.
The 130 & 150 PD engines have the same head, valves, injectors, pistons, crankshaft. The turbo is basically the same (VNT17), but with slightly different internals. The intercooler is completely different, 150 being a FMIC.
As for me:
As I had already mentioned, I'm interested in testing a CAI.