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CarreraGT
22-02-2002, 14:59
The other day i saw a Pug 106 GTI with a big sticker in the rear windscreen advertising "www.pugperformance.com" or something along those lines, so i thought why doesn't our site have one?

Something that we can recognise each other when out and about, rather than annoying some person who is oblivious to the site and its' members.

I’m not saying it has to be really big and fill up the whole window cuz that would be a bit naff. Just something big enough u can read from the car behind let’s say.

Fill the poll in to see what the other members think about this idea.

andyb
22-02-2002, 15:45
i would only be interested in a small one, about 6-7 inches max, so I voted yes

ZBOYD
22-02-2002, 16:26
We've been thinking about this, but ive just not had time to implement it with work commitments, and my work regarding the Seat Drivers Club.

The main header picture is too complicated an image to use on a window sticker, not from a technical standpoint, but really from a visual point.

If it was on a car with all the busyness of the image it wouldn'y be clear.

For a car sticker simple is best solid text or logo with one or 2 colours max.

This is a mock up idea i did just now in 5-10 mins. Simple nothing elaborate gets the message across.

As i work for a label printers, I should be able to get some printed soon, just need a slot on the machine as we only have one that does overlaminating, which is for window stickers, all the other presses we have are for standard back adhesive labels.

Shaggy
22-02-2002, 16:39
/me Hugs Zboyd

ZBOYD
22-02-2002, 16:42
take it you like that. :)

Shaggy
22-02-2002, 16:45
ooo, Yes sir. I love it. :D

andyb
22-02-2002, 16:56
no offence what so ever, but I would just prefer the web address , maybe in cut vinyl

I have a contact who is doing my rally car, but to be honest, there not as cheap as I thought.

andyb
22-02-2002, 17:00
something like this

http://www.stunty.co.uk/pages/newp13a.jpg

Martyn
22-02-2002, 17:21
A special sticker just for Lee :)

(Priv joke)

CARL BRIGHTON
22-02-2002, 17:37
how about doin a Tax disc holder??

Shaggy
22-02-2002, 17:43
Nice one Mart. :P

Martyn
22-02-2002, 17:49
Thought you'd like it :D

ZBOYD
22-02-2002, 18:07
Originally posted by andyb
no offence what so ever, but I would just prefer the web address , maybe in cut vinyl

I have a contact who is doing my rally car, but to be honest, there not as cheap as I thought.

If they require special cutters for the lettering thats the expense.

Basically it would be easier to have the white text printed on clear material set to a 6 or 7" rectangle, but i'll have to look into it, as it may require a special polyprop material to look right on car glass, no problem on a white or coloured material, but clear is a bitch, if its not right it just makes the ink/print look cloudy.

I'll do some tests and see how well i can get white to look on clear polyprop, its the material and a special shape cutter that would bump up those costs you have described.

If we have the material and i can blag 20-30 metres of it, that should be enough to do around a thousand stickers.

ZBOYD
22-02-2002, 18:09
Originally posted by andyb
something like this

http://www.stunty.co.uk/pages/newp13a.jpg


Though that would work on a 3 door Ibiza, going to look a bit daft on a 5 door Leon aint it?

CARL BRIGHTON
22-02-2002, 18:09
1st on the list pls mate!!

:D :D :D

andyb
22-02-2002, 18:23
well they have a plotter (made by Gerber) they get the illustrator file, convert it into a Gerber friendly file and then they load the sticker material onto the roller and the the plotter cuts it out, its just a small knife following the converted vector lines. The time consuming (and I assume costly time labour wise!) is the deweeding all the unwanted items, then you need to back it up onto a carrier sheet.


i'll investigate on Monday

Mosser
22-02-2002, 18:24
I'm afraid i'm one of the 2 people that have voted no, if the police pull me over for speeding and see a sticker advertising a car club, i can see me not getting away as lightly as if my car was totally unmarked and unmodified (externally), and my uncle who is in the traffic police has confirmed that although this shouldnt affect the outcome of being stopped it probably would :(

Fl@pper
22-02-2002, 18:30
ive still got that list for the glass stain type versions if you need a copy ??


www.seatcupra.net in a an etched style maybe ?



OOOOH and you see the logo @ the top left ??

If anyone has details on how i can graffitti that on a wall in counter strike PLEASE PLEASE mail me ?

ZBOYD
22-02-2002, 18:33
Originally posted by andyb
well they have a plotter (made by Gerber) they get the illustrator file, convert it into a Gerber friendly file and then they load the sticker material onto the roller and the the plotter cuts it out, its just a small knife following the converted vector lines. The time consuming (and I assume costly time labour wise!) is the deweeding all the unwanted items, then you need to back it up onto a carrier sheet.


i'll investigate on Monday

Yup i saw a similar thing last year, made by Barco. Cost wise it seemed to be the cost of the equipment. Printing presses can have lower costings cause they do so much more work in the smae time scale, so earn more money in the time span of a job.

These plotter/cutters are slower machines, making less money, so paying themselves off much more slowly

andyb
22-02-2002, 18:44
sounds similar. All the racecar stickers are done like this.

Anyway, this is the sort of thing I was thinking for the Leon for example

andyb
22-02-2002, 18:45
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Mark_349
22-02-2002, 19:07
Andy,

That second sticker would be the sort of one id like to put on the car.

A mate of mine had a load of them made up for his business, ill see how much it cost him but i dont think it was that expensive.

People would be happy to pay a small price to cover the cost im sure for whoever makes them up.

//\\//\\ark

andyb
22-02-2002, 19:10
you could have two different sizes as well, because its vector based, they just put in a scale before the send the job to plot and hey presto.

speed_uk
22-02-2002, 19:37
i like it a lot!!!!!

can it go on the bodywork

speedy:D

ibizacupra
22-02-2002, 20:43
Looks Ok to me.
Is this going ahead then?

Bill

CarreraGT
22-02-2002, 23:00
Glad every1 has liked the idea i brough up then except for a few with there valid points which i can understand. But Mosser u know the answer to ur problem :p You shouldn't be speeding anyways. Or at least you shouldn't get caught ;) But i think most of the people here have opted for a small rather discret but yet seen logo rather than plastering it on their back window.

Theres certainly a few people who also know a bit about the printing process which is good!

To be honest out of all the design ideas u have come up with i think andyb's is the best just for it's simplicity and the fact you can put it any where on the car not just the back window. Cuz i own a 5dr i don't have a large rear qtr window. If i did i would put it there but i guess it will be just as good in my rear window on by the number plate.

Keep the ideas coming the all sounds pretty good! And hopefully we will have a finished product that we could get our hands on for a small fee that cover the costs.

cheers for the input! :cheers:

Mosser
23-02-2002, 00:22
I know!, but statistically i only get caught every 150,000 miles and get 3 points every 200,000 miles driven, which i consider not too bad considering the type of car i'm driving!!

BlackFR
23-02-2002, 00:34
Id be interested in one if it goes ahead:D

Shaggy
23-02-2002, 09:53
Andy, thats a good idea. My hairdressers Hubby does car design logos for a living. I will sort something out. :)

CarreraGT
23-02-2002, 11:43
Originally Posted By Mosser



I know!, but statistically i only get caught every 150,000 miles and get 3 points every 200,000 miles driven, which i consider not too bad considering the type of car i'm driving!!


U think u've got it bad, im an 18yr old student driving a '96 Ibiza with 15" alloys (my first car :D ) around Cheltenham. Young drivers dont really have a good rep around here with all the Boy racers out on sundays (and every other day for that matter). So you would have thought i would get pulled every time a cop saw me but touch wood i've never been pulled! I think it might be the fact its a 5dr it kinda draws attention away from it.

andyb
23-02-2002, 13:21
Originally posted by Cupraman
Andy, thats a good idea. My hairdressers Hubby does car design logos for a living. I will sort something out. :)

let me know, i can do some Illustrator artwork, although its only text, so we could probably get away with that and just requesting Arial or something like that

CarreraGT
23-02-2002, 13:38
What about the background? Will it be a cut around the lettering or will it have a transparent background? And for the sticker to be placed on the body work like andyb's picture shows the sticky side will have to be on the back, but what if u want to put it on the rear widow (or any window) the sticky stuff will have to be on the front of the lettering. How would this effect printing costs? What is going to look the best for the cheapest basically :D

andyb
23-02-2002, 17:55
the letters are cut and then all the bits you dont need are taken away leaving the letters on a backing sheet. Then a semi transparent "carrier" is applied on top, which then holds the letters when you peel it off for application.

It sticks on the outside, that doesnt matter. Just look at a race car and the logos are done this way.

You can have it reverse cut so that you can apply from inside

Andy

CarreraGT
25-02-2002, 23:12
Any one investigated the stickers any further or is this end of the line for my idea? Just not popular enough?

andyb
26-02-2002, 07:47
havent had a chance yet. I have to go to the sticker supplier anyway to pick up some bits for the rally car, but it will be some time this week

johnny_M
26-02-2002, 09:15
They look good, but how about the logo on the top of the page as a sticker ???

I know ZBOYD said it's best with 2 colours, is that because of cost ? I think 2 colours look a bit plain ???

andyb
26-02-2002, 09:44
would we have a copyright issue with the SEAT part of the logo. I know when I helped out with some graphics for the Smart website, that they couldnt use the font or the orange triangle thats part of the logo.

guilhemvalentin
26-02-2002, 10:36
What about something like this ?

Brian27
26-02-2002, 12:45
I've just phoned a company and they have quoted £61+vat for 100 stickers - 13" wide/ 1 colour = £0.72p each.

Another place will do the 17 cut-out letters 1" tall for www.seatcupra.net on a template for £1.53.

How do thse prices compare?

:cheers:

ZBOYD
26-02-2002, 13:09
Originally posted by johnny_M
They look good, but how about the logo on the top of the page as a sticker ???

I know ZBOYD said it's best with 2 colours, is that because of cost ? I think 2 colours look a bit plain ???

nope the reason i say 1 or 2 colour is for clarity, you imagine trying to read that from the back of a car, at traffic lights for instance, doesn't really get the message across quickly and clearly as just a simple block colour label or as Andy has said, just cutout text.

As were a self adhesive label company, specialising in colour flexo, for Food, Automotive, Home consumer and pharmaceutical products were not geared up really for the kind of thing that Andy has suggested, we dont have that kind of equipment.

All i can generate is adhesive backed or, laminated front adhesive (for window stickers) on a rectangle based cutter, as we cant order a special cutter for this it would cost a fortune.

I did the SEAT Drivers Club ones which are simple and effective.

I can print just text onto a long rectangle, maybe on clear material, coloured white as andy has shown. in any font at any size, as Andy has mentioned, i myself also use Illustrator and Artpro, for vector based graphics which means they can be used at any size.

But we are also affected by the repeat length an pull of our machines, the largest possible recetangle i can do is around 11 inch, as we are narrow web based, we usually only print labels for bottles etc, ie TCut, and TripleWax, and we also do Henkel stuff like No More Nails tubes.

Best i can do really, maybe not ideal, but id be free :)

CarreraGT
26-02-2002, 13:17
I think most people agree that, it doesn't have to be big as long as it readable. And Free is the best price ever! ZBOYD can u just make 1 pilot sticker and scan it for every1 to see ur idea? It would well appriciated if u did!

:cheers:

CARL BRIGHTON
26-02-2002, 13:18
I did the SEAT Drivers Club ones which are simple and effective

Wurz mine then?:D

johnny_M
26-02-2002, 13:19
ZBOYD,
I know what you mean, but they do look realy plain, espeialy when your car is parked if you know what i mean.

The thing about the block lettered ones i didn't like is the white background.

CarreraGT
26-02-2002, 13:25
Understandable! I think most people are drawing up their own idea of stickers. So draw one to see what ur idea of one is! But personally i think the best sticker design is by Andyb. But then again ever1 has their own taste.

m0rk
26-02-2002, 13:39
The nearby VAG dealer to me "Autohaus" has a small simple sticker on it

next time you're up this way - I bet you spot loads... it's almost subliminal

I've had my old web address on my car 2" high writing (too big) in white on a clack part of my window - it stands out a mile.

white is the way forward. simple also - unless you don't want to read it.

like Z offers free is great - but those that offer stuff for free shouldn't be rushed too much (we've got other things to do too:D)

ZBOYD
26-02-2002, 13:48
In its most simplest form it would be like Andy shows, or you could go with something like ive attached here, which also has a tag line underneath.

Ive shown it in varying colours, also it can be printed white onto clear material so you get exactly the same effect as what Andy showed in his mockup.

Anyway, i'll probably get something run up like this on clear and see what it looks like on my car, as its free, its upto you lot to decide. If you want something different, then thats your choice.

CarreraGT
26-02-2002, 14:21
ZBOYD I think they're pretty good! Could you print a batch out in each of the colours or would we have to pick a colour and stick with it?? I think that design clearly advertises the web site and looks pretty good. Dont u think?

johnny_M
26-02-2002, 14:33
ZBOYD,
They look better than the plain text ones (colour on white), i can grow to like them !

Any chance of IMPERIAL BLUE ???????

Saul
26-02-2002, 14:36
Give the guy a chance lads, he's editing the mag too.

"The best things come to those who wait"

:cheers:

ZBOYD
26-02-2002, 14:47
Im not making them to order, we need to stick to one or 2 types, and i cant promise a time frame as im very busy at work, and it would need to be slipped in when the presses aren't so busy, which at the moment isn't happening. :p

I think white on Black is fairly neutral, and i can do white on clear, to be honest colour ones just make it more difficult to please people, so lets stay neutral.

Another thing is for these to be done quickly, they will need to be exterior stickers rather than window stickers, but i'll choose a good material that can withstand the elements. The reason for this is the machine that usually does laminated window stickers is a pain to setup and run, where as the other machines are faster, but only do normal back adhesive stickers. I'll see anyway.

I recommend only sticking it to glass though if i can't do the inside out window stickers, do not put the labels on the cars exterior paintwork, only its glass, as the adhesive may mark the paintwork of the car.

I'll let you all know nearer the time, but dont expect anything until well after the track day im just too busy.

CarreraGT
26-02-2002, 15:14
Sounds good to me ZBOYD! If u can make one with clear background material it would be excellent! But im not too sure about sticking it to the outside of the car. As u said its probably better to stick it the glass. But what about the windscreen wipers? If i want to stick it to the rear windscreen the rear windscreen wiper is more likely than not gonna screw it up!

ZBOYD
26-02-2002, 16:38
All good points and i'll have to test it out on my own car to see.

Shaggy
26-02-2002, 16:40
This is the chap I have in mind. He can do number plates the whole 9 yards. Because Z is a busy boy, and if the price is right would you guys be willing to give him a go (pending the price of course)

http://www.Vinylgen.com

He will be checking this thread tonight to come up with some ideas.

andyb
26-02-2002, 17:03
well, I'm 'appy to do artwork if required

Andy

bazzer
27-02-2002, 07:02
Found this site, not had a chance to contact them as its only 7am

http://www.bensons-autosupplies.co.uk/gifts-uk.htm

bazzer
27-02-2002, 07:31
Just e-mailed them requesting typical price list for window stickers, tax disk holders and key rings.

I will post their reply once received

Brian27
27-02-2002, 12:54
I've just had a reply from another company who will do the pre-spaced letters of the site as in AndyB's photo.

£0.95p for each sticker based on a order quantity of 100.


Anyone interested?

:cheers:

bazzer
27-02-2002, 13:08
Brian,

Count me in – do they go inside or out? – I would prefer in – reverse lettering?

A m8 of mine does promotional printing – mugs, mouse mats, tax disk holders etc, I will phone him as soon as the boss goes out and get some prices and possibly arrange some seatcupra.net samples.

Brian27
27-02-2002, 13:14
Originally posted by bazzer
Count me in – do they go inside or out? – I would prefer in – reverse lettering?

Hi Bazzer,

That price is for sticking inside or out.

The order would have to be one way or the other.

I prefer the reversed lettering stuck on the inside too.

:cheers:

bazzer
27-02-2002, 13:54
Copyright question: ‘seatcupra.net’ – can I go ahead and get some samples done using the site logo?

Shaggy
27-02-2002, 19:07
Yeah. Fill ya boots Bazzer

CarreraGT
27-02-2002, 19:12
Yeh sounds great to me!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D

johnny_M
27-02-2002, 20:08
GOOD STUFF !!
;)

Steve3961
27-02-2002, 21:48
Can wwe have something with a bit more class?

I see loads of TT't with TT forum sticker's in the windows and they look really good....

This isn't exactly how they look but you get the idea,

Check the tt forum website for a better picture.

jon.od
27-02-2002, 21:55
I place my vote in favour of the web address in vinyl. I had a bespoke vinyl cut for the top of mk6 Escort and that only cost £20 so a bulk order of small ones should come out at to many per unit. (sorry about the English just been typing up a business essay). Students !!

Steve
28-02-2002, 09:25
I place my vote in favour of the web address in vinyl

I vote for one of these as well. Although I would be interested in anything that gets printed.

Steve

bazzer
02-03-2002, 15:24
Our friends at Audi-Sport have just had some car stickers produced and have kindly given me the name of their supplier who I have e-mailed today for a price.

I have initially requested a price for 100 no, black text on white background.

Will keep you posted.

Brian27
02-03-2002, 15:54
Bazzer -

Will they do a run of 10 stickers, this being about the number of people who have voiced an interest on here in these stickers.

:cheers:

bazzer
02-03-2002, 19:20
Originally posted by brian27
Bazzer -

Will they do a run of 10 stickers, this being about the number of people who have voiced an interest on here in these stickers.

:cheers:

Brian,

I very much doubt it. I had a day off Friday and rang around, most companies have a 500 minimum quantity order. I’m hoping this one will be different.

I’m sure a lot more members will be interested one we have a design and priced agreed upon.

Just a thought, if this ever get off the ground should not the price include something towards the running of this site, we can’t keep expecting Lee & Co to do it all?

Shaggy
04-03-2002, 20:05
Reply I got today:

Dear Lee,

They look simple enough....we can acheive that in any letterstyle/colour you desire.

Costwise for a healthy order (250+) they'll be about £1.00 each.

Let me know everyone's views on this...

Many thanks,

John Barrell

Vinyl Generation

Vinyl Signwriting and Vehicle Graphics Tel./Fax.01634 716 667 ~ Mob. 07850 150 374

Visit the Vinyl Generation Website - www.vinylgen.com

or our new Studio @ 27a Cuxton Road, Strood, Kent.

CarreraGT
04-03-2002, 21:28
Sounds like ur gonna have to buy £250 worth or more! U might not want to invest all that money if only 40-60 people are intrested.

But im sure they will sell over time if u dont mind getting all ur money back at once.

What do u think?

Brian27
04-03-2002, 22:46
Sounds like ur gonna have to buy £250 worth or more! U might not want to invest all that money if only 40-60 people are intrested.

Only about 10 posts of any interest in the stickers so far.:( :( :(

IMVHO - Waste of time and effort. Apathy again.

:rolleyes:

CarreraGT
04-03-2002, 22:48
What about the people subsribed to the drivers club? Could u not include a sticker in with there membership?

Just a thought.

Brian27
04-03-2002, 23:14
Originally posted by CarreraGT
What about the people subsribed to the drivers club? Could u not include a sticker in with there membership?

Just a thought.

Why?

Is about £1.00/£1.50 a sticker too expensive?

:rolleyes:

andyb
05-03-2002, 08:14
Sorry guys, I've not had a chance to get to the sticker company yet, this week I promise!!!

OK, as there doesnt seem any interest, I can probably get an arrangement from them where they cut the letters (one colour just text) and then I de-weed (remove all the redundent bit of the sticker) them, back them up for the few that seem interested. It does take a while to deweed these things with a scapule...but if its only a few, then I'm 'appy to do that.

Let me find out the cost first of say 50, all the same.

I would prefer stick outside, I also think it might be cheaper from memory as you have to have a different grade sticker (different adhesive) if you stick if from the inside as your looking through the adhesive layer.

I'll let you know


Andy

bensaud
05-03-2002, 08:23
I am sure a lot of people will be interested in buying a sticker, I will be on the list.
Just make sure you choose you design right because that will depict weather or not people will buy the Sticker.
It might be a good idea to come up with a few designs and get the members to vote for which one they like best, and I am sure that People would pay £3.00 for the stickers the only problem would be to work out how the members would pay for them and what the postal cost would be.

Cheers

Shaggy
05-03-2002, 09:01
Ok, In this weeks update I will ask for those who would be interested in buying the stickers. I am sure that more than 250 would be for £1.


Lets see how we go.

CarreraGT
05-03-2002, 10:23
Sounds like a good idea to me CupraMan that way we will near enough get a accurate figures into who is actually intrested!

CUP RAcing
05-03-2002, 13:10
Im up for a couple of stickers !!!

And dont forget to add the cost of P&P onto the email.

NewCupra
05-03-2002, 13:15
I would take one off your hands too!

Def. a good way to identify people, I think I scared someone in a Leon Cupra last night by waving on my way past!!!

:D

Brian27
05-03-2002, 13:23
Originally posted by brian27
I've just had a reply from another company who will do the pre-spaced letters of the site address as in AndyB's photo.

Lee, AndyB.


This guy will do the pre-spaced letters - "www.seatcupra.net" - for:-

100 @£0.95p each,

500 @ £0.82p each,

1000 @ £0.76p each

(plus postage)

Prices are for sticking inside or out.


:cheers:

CarreraGT
05-03-2002, 13:42
Brian i thinks that probably one of the best deals ive heard! Seeing as u can order about 100 im sure they will go over time. Also its the same price for sticking inside as well outside. Im not too keen on sticking it on the outside of the car as it will probably damage the paint and if stuck on glass the rear wiper will probably rip it off!

What do others think?

:cheers:

NewCupra
05-03-2002, 13:43
Personally, I'd rather have it on the inside, anything to get rid of the Dealers sticker, I'm not doing their damn advertising for them after the service I got!!!!

:devil:

bazzer
05-03-2002, 19:11
I am having a one off “www.SEATCUPRA.net’ in 25mm high white vinyl lettering done this week by a local company in Reading (stick inside)

Also doing a ‘DIY’ tax disk holder also using white vinyl lettering (+ 99p holder from Halford’s – black)

Hopefully collect Friday, and will fit to car and post pics at the weekend

Might be useful for everyone to see fitted to a car, might also generate more interest

CarreraGT
05-03-2002, 19:18
Humm that will be good. That way it will give us some kind of visual aid and might attract more attention. Plus we can see if we like the design or not.

No Offence meant if i dont like the design :p .

:cheers:

andyb
05-03-2002, 19:25
Originally posted by brian27


Lee, AndyB.


This guy will do the pre-spaced letters - "www.seatcupra.net" - for:-

100 @£0.95p each,

500 @ £0.82p each,

1000 @ £0.76p each

(plus postage)

Prices are for sticking inside or out.


:cheers:

spoke to my contacts and they arent going to be able to compete with that, so this could well be the best option...

...one question, do we need the www part?

bazzer
05-03-2002, 19:28
:D LOL :D

I am a designer by profession, OK, buildings not DTP. Used Arial, bold, italic font to spell out ‘www.SEATCUPRA.net’, not much design involved

I have over 10,000 fonts, Arial easy to read, so used that

Be patient and wait for the pics weekend :p

CarreraGT
05-03-2002, 19:36
Thats alright then mate, i should be able to trust u to come up with a good tastful design then!

What do u exactly do if not too personal to ask?

Archutecture, interior design, painter?

The reason i ask is cuz my sister is a Graphic Designist/Advertising and she looking for a job in the Gloucestershire area.

:cheers:

bazzer
05-03-2002, 19:45
Originally posted by CarreraGT
What do u exactly do if not too personal to ask?

I’m a commercial building designer, curtain walling, glazing, cladding – offices, airports, stations etc. I’m the poor bugger that has to make the architects design work and build the bloody thing.

Did work in an Architects office for 8 weeks, that was more than enough

Good luck to your sister in her job search

Brian27
05-03-2002, 19:46
The "Serpentine" font looks good in bold italic, IMO!



:cheers:

bazzer
05-03-2002, 19:48
Who asked you? :p

CarreraGT
05-03-2002, 20:22
Sounds intresting!

Did u have to do any of the calculations like how much steel is needed and is the thing going fall over in strong winds stuff or just draw what they tell kinda thing?

Cheers for the good luck ill pass it on. ;)

Brian27
05-03-2002, 20:31
Originally posted by bazzer
Who asked you? :p

No one.

Another guy will do a one off for me for £4.00. And the guy who will do them for 95p, if you want their details, go find them yourself. :p ;) :p

You were'nt involved in building that wobbly bridge was you?

:cheers:

CarreraGT
05-03-2002, 20:38
uhumm lets all calm down, if not do it for each other do it for SEAT's Sake! :p

Brian27
05-03-2002, 20:46
I jest. ;)

I am calm.

Anyway, he started it! :p

:cheers:

bazzer
05-03-2002, 22:19
Brian

Only Joking, thanks for your input.

I just decided to get a one off, if we go ahead then font type would, I assume, go to a vote.

I very much doubt that the company I am dealing with can match your prices.

By the way, have you gone into ‘stealth’ mode, very un-nerving – I like to know where YOU are! :D

Brian27
05-03-2002, 22:37
Of course I knew you were joking.

Serpentine does look good tho!

I've been in stealth mode for the last couple of months. I have my reasons! ;) :p

:cheers:

Shaggy
06-03-2002, 10:08
Right, My matey John is going to make me one up very shortly to go in the back window. What dimensions are you looking for?


Let me know quickly, cos I want to get a picture up today

andyb
06-03-2002, 10:57
inside or outside. I would personally prefer outside, then I can stick it where I want :D but I think I'm in the minority

I personally wouldnt want it any bigger than about 160mm ( 6 1/4 inches I think)

Shaggy
06-03-2002, 10:59
Whats the lenght and Width you think we should go for then Andy

andyb
06-03-2002, 11:11
length as stated above (although I would prefer smaller than this between 100-120mm, I'm sure I would be in the minority!), height is a bit dependent on the font, but I wouldnt stretch it, just keep it the same as before.

I also assume white.

Not sure if you want www.SEATcupra.net or www.seatcupra.net I prefer the former because i) easier to read ii) technically correct

Not sure if you need the www bit either. I think the latter would benefit that

CarreraGT
06-03-2002, 11:16
I agree with AndyB on the dimensions, i think it will look untastful and tacky any bigger!

but im not sure on the actual wording, i thought

www.SEATCupra.net ---------- might look good but i can undestand where u might get a bit confused reading it in traffic etc etc

what about

SEATcupra.net -------- just on its self?

:cheers:

Shaggy
06-03-2002, 11:18
Have asked him to do one that is 15 Inches in length and 1.5 Inches in height, this fits with you original picture Andy.

It will read www.SEATCupra.net

CarreraGT
06-03-2002, 11:24
Good Good! Can't wait to see the pictures CupraMan!!!!!!!!!:cheers: :cheers:

andyb
06-03-2002, 11:36
cool, is in internal or external?

Shaggy
06-03-2002, 11:38
External

andyb
06-03-2002, 11:40
:D

CarreraGT
06-03-2002, 11:42
:(

CARL BRIGHTON
06-03-2002, 11:49
:( :confused:

Shaggy
06-03-2002, 13:20
If you have tem internal you have to raise them above the black bit that are on your windows. It loos really stoopid too high up

CarreraGT
06-03-2002, 13:42
What about the rear windscreen wiper? Aint it going to rip it off after time? :rolleyes:

What about producing one internal one and one external one and doing a trail/vote? :confused:

:cheers: Do It for the Good Of SEAT!

CARL BRIGHTON
06-03-2002, 13:44
Why cant Seat sort this for us?

now they have an interest in us!!!

Shaggy
06-03-2002, 13:47
The Windscreen wiper does not go down that low, it wont touch it. Hopefully

CarreraGT
06-03-2002, 13:47
True True! Wise words!

But SEAT have given us soo much should we always be taking?

But hey if its going lift the strain of all this b*tch*ng :p

CarreraGT
06-03-2002, 13:52
Is that on all SEAT's or just the new model SEAT's cuz i got a '96 model Ibiza (5dr black bumpers).

bazzer
06-03-2002, 13:57
The sample one I’m getting made is internal, picking it up Friday and will post pics weekend so you can compare ‘inside/outside’.

I was planning to place mine at the top of the rear window under the brake light. Will have to see what looks best.

smithrc
06-03-2002, 14:02
15 Inches in length and 1.5 Inches in height

Thats very long and thin..... (no pun intended)

Could these be sorted out by saturday as I wouldn't mine seeing one 'in the flesh'

Oh and Brian - I agree - Serpentine looks good. but then no one asked me did they.

Brian27
06-03-2002, 16:01
Originally posted by smithrc


Oh and Brian - I agree - Serpentine looks good. but then no one asked me did they.

SmithRC - Shall we do our own in Serpentine!!

:cheers:

smithrc
06-03-2002, 17:02
Come on lads have a look on the net for the Serpentine font - it looks great.

We should all use this font.

CarreraGT
06-03-2002, 17:05
Post a link cuz i dont have it on my comp.!

andyb
06-03-2002, 17:49
here is a link

http://www.adobe.com/type/browser/P/P_153.html


I've used it before for Marlboro bits. They used Serpentine Bold Itallic (btm one) for saying "world Championship team" and the driver names for the last couple of seasons when Marlboro sponsored McLaren

Did look cool, so if it didnt hit the cost then I think I'd agree with Brian and his "clan"

Brian27
06-03-2002, 18:08
The "SEAT" done in Handel Gothic looks nice too, makes a definition between the SEAT and the Cupra!

:cheers:

andyb
06-03-2002, 18:28
I think you need the correct fonts on your machine to be able to display this correctly

CarreraGT
06-03-2002, 19:22
Humm looks good! I like the light and the light oblique versions! You say they were on the McLaren? Is that the Red and White ones before they merged with Mercedes and became black and silver? I think the engines before Mercedes where Honda's but dont quote me on that! I think it will make a very nice sticker font!

Can't open your attatchment brain im at Uni and they dont have winzip :( just have to wait tilll i get home tonight!

But im sure that will look nice too! :p

:cheers:

What program are you guys using that has all these fonts? I was looking for fonts to download but no luck on a entire package that was free! Are you using Adobe Photoshope by any chance?

:cheers:

andyb
06-03-2002, 21:56
Carerra - yes, the lettering in Bold oblique style was used on the Marlboro sponsored McLarens in 95 and 96 (West took over in 97). The word Marlboro wasnt in this type face it was secondary stuff such as branding in the pits, Marlboro strap line and on the cars, the drivers name.

Marlboro used it on the bikes and other bits until about two years ago.

You have to make sure the letters are not too thin, or it will be a pain to deweed and then apply, its only about 15cm long afterall.

I personally use Adobe Illustrator which is a vector graphics program (similar to Corel draw) and Photoshop. The Fonts dont come as such with the program, you have to buy them etc. I have quite a few on my home machine, mainly from freelance work but unfortunately not the serpentine font.

If any probs getting the Serpentine font, if it gets used, let me know, couple of places that owe me a favour:)

smithrc
07-03-2002, 09:16
Link added for CarreraGT....

http://www.myfonts.com/FontFamily4358.html

The site allows Testing of the font too! cool

andyb
07-03-2002, 10:09
heres an example of its use

andyb
07-03-2002, 10:14
saved out two versions from the myfont website

First one Serpentine Bold Oblique - my choice of the two

(left the www. in as I'm not sure if its dropped)

andyb
07-03-2002, 10:17
Serpentine Medium Oblique

(wouldnt want to go thinner than this)

Brian27
07-03-2002, 10:36
Andy,

Agree, the bold looks good.

What colour do people want.

My preference is light grey.

:cheers:

bazzer
07-03-2002, 13:27
Andy

Agree, Serpentine Bold Oblique looks best.

As regards colour, I think white would be most visible and being a neutral colour will go with any car colour.

CarreraGT
07-03-2002, 14:25
Yeah Agreed! I especially like the Mitsubishi Ralliart logo! Looks top noch!

:cheers:

andyb
07-03-2002, 14:25
..except white!

only joking. I have actually seen a White Leon and it wasnt pleasent!

CarreraGT
07-03-2002, 14:33
Yeah white isn't very pretty! It looks like they 4got to paint it in the factory!

I saw a Silver Leon out side PC world in Cheltenham and it had some Graphics on it advertising they persons Company but i can't remember what it said it was "CGI" or something like that! But i dont think we will go to that extreme will we guys! We'd look like a Profes Racing team though ;)

Minty Man
07-03-2002, 14:51
I agree that sticker looks mint, i have a white car so white would look top bollocks, gotta stik on the outside tho!! I wouldnt mind having one on my spoiler either actually, in cobolt blue if anyones up for making me one! Full size of Beezer GTi spoiler, would look top on me car!!!

Carrera - whats wrong with white? hehe!

CarreraGT
07-03-2002, 14:55
Nothing when u make add a few extra spoilers and Alloys but bog standard its not going to be the obvious choice when u can have Arthrite blue or Silver.

bazzer
08-03-2002, 06:53
Hopefully collect the lettering today. Will put in car tomorrow and post pics. As previously mentioned I was planning to put it centrally at the top of the rear window, (inside), just under the top brake light – any thoughts?

Just checked the sweep of the rear wiper on the Leon. The only place you can possibly place an ‘outside’ sticker is as above, i.e. just under the top rear brake light.

Btw the cost of a one off, (25mm high) was £4.34 + VAT = £5.10


Ian (Minty)

I’ll ask about other colours, (Blue), when I collect today and let you know

Minty Man
08-03-2002, 10:47
nice one mate!

bazzer
08-03-2002, 13:04
Ian,

Just collected the lettering, they can virtually do any colour you want, hundreds of colour swatches to choose from, forgot to ask if more expensive than white.

carlos
08-03-2002, 16:44
andy i think your design is by far the best and would look awsome in light silver in the back window and 2 rear side windows....good effort fella:) :) :)

andyj
13-03-2002, 17:22
andy, the sticker looks wicked mate :cool:

'Stick' me down for one !!

('scuse the pun !!! :D)