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went there today for a boost controler and remap still in shock now :blink: with what they can do totally not what i thought the car would be like its so smooth and the power is all the way to the red line i got 279.4 bhp on the worst run and 283 bhp on the best thats with an air temp of 33c which i was told was a bit warm so on the road it should be more .Its been a really long day left at 6am got home at 7 30pm and about 500 miles what with getting lost but all i can say is if you have a leon or leon r i really don't think you can get better then jabba imho
Hi Chubbs,
Can you tell me more :)
How do you find the power delivery now?? DO you still get boost low down??
Thinking of a chip and Jabba is one of the ones I am thinking of.
Thanks
went there today for a boost controler and remap still in shock now :blink: with what they can do totally not what i thought the car would be like its so smooth and the power is all the way to the red line i got 279.4 bhp on the worst run and 283 bhp on the best thats with an air temp of 33c which i was told was a bit warm so on the road it should be more .Its been a really long day left at 6am got home at 7 30pm and about 500 miles what with getting lost but all i can say is if you have a leon or leon r i really don't think you can get better then jabba imho
Amazing isn't it! I love driving my car (loved it before but now, it is even better now), as you have about 280 Bhp, I am sure you will be grinning for a while yet!
Have Fun...
hoping a bit more power to come as the car has only done 4500 miles the power delivery is spot on really progressive there does'nt feel like any tail off till the red line and even on low boost its so much more smoother ! was told that on hi boost he has max out the turbo and not to run it on hi all the time .
hoping a bit more power to come as the car has only done 4500 miles the power delivery is spot on really progressive there does'nt feel like any tail off till the red line and even on low boost its so much more smoother ! was told that on hi boost he has max out the turbo and not to run it on hi all the time .
As your engine is so new, I would keep it off max boost until you have a few more miles on it. I was told that it was best to keep the dial on the "2 o'clock" position for all round driving.
Chubbs,
How much torque are you running??
Have you got any print outs from the rolling road??
I reckon that after 10,000 miles and the first service the car will nicely run in, should be able to use high boost then I would have thought! :)
Nice one dude :) Sounds like you had fun! Couldn't agree more about the mapping - it feels very OEM in delivery (like it was supposed to be that way from SEAT) :)
Nice one dude :) Sounds like you had fun! Couldn't agree more about the mapping - it feels very OEM in delivery (like it was supposed to be that way from SEAT) :)
The Jabba re-map all being within tolerances, the Seat engineers were playing wwwwaaaayyyyy too safe!
i've taken a picture of the dyno plot but can't post it as its to big
Can you email it to me scott.collins@morecomm.com
Thanks
Jabba are the most likely candidates for me when I get round to having my cupra remapped (and I will, but probably not until I renew insurance).
You guys already Jabba'd - were your remaps via serial port or chip?
I heard they do serial port now.
chubbs
i take it you have a LCR...
i've never seen 280bhp form a standard cupra
jerry yes i have lcr. adam they can do both i asked them to do what they thought was best so they changed the chip he said somrthing about being able to do more with it that way to be honest most of what he said went right over my head i just said i want the most out of it and thats what i got
monkeynuts
09-07-2004, 06:19
Kam I had mine remapped by Jabba and ended with 230 with cotten green filter I notice you have a cat back system,any differance in performance with It.Very happy with mine though.
Kam I had mine remapped by Jabba and ended with 230 with cotten green filter I notice you have a cat back system,any differance in performance with It.Very happy with mine though.
Hi mate,
I have to say that the advantages of the cat back system were felt before the remap! With stock settings, there was definately more power and better torque. After the re-mapp, cannot tell because of the higher BHP and torque.
Got 230BHP on the dyno the day I was at Jabba but that was a hot and humid day. They did say that there was probably more in it on a cooler day.
The Supersprint system is much lighter than the stock exhaust, quiet for a performance system but also gives a decent roar under hard acceleration. Being stainless steel, it is also very bling!
Happy with it as it has improved performance as well as give the engine a better sound!
monkeynuts
09-07-2004, 10:08
Yo Kam I have only got 6 thou on the clock and they recon its still a bit tight,wit more to come!not noticed any worst fuel con.seems only bset on Optimax(f**k the price)buteverything seems to be working well
Yo Kam I have only got 6 thou on the clock and they recon its still a bit tight,wit more to come!not noticed any worst fuel con.seems only bset on Optimax(f**k the price)buteverything seems to be working well
6K...Still a baby!! I'd keep the boost controller off the max until you get a few more miles on the engine. Sure there will be more to come.
My car has 26K on now, not sure if there is more to come. The current air temp is good for performance. Really feel a down turn on a hot day.
What do you think of the car's handlng with the extra power?
Had the same work done to mine, was a hell of a journey home!!
Here's mine:
http://russboy.250free.com/pics/russ.jpg
Had the same work done to mine, was a hell of a journey home!!
Any other Jabba'ed Leon owners? They should have a bit on the forum just for us! REVO has one after all. ;)
monkeynuts
09-07-2004, 12:12
i NEVER HAD A BOOST CONTROLLER FITTED ON MINE FULL TILT EVERYWHERE (NOT REALLY)
if i e mail the plot can some one post it for me?
Hello everyone. Had the REVO 5 hour trial but, on reading this plus other forums, I'm being Jabba'd next Wednesday. Two questions. 1. Will having the REVO demo affect the code on my chip (will it work OK/any probs). 2. What BHP/torque can I expect. The site claims 218-230. Is this realistic? If so, it's better/smoother/cheaper than REVO.
Thanks
Rod
1. Jabba replace your chip, and map that one. (Just in case anyone comes along and says thats not true, I have the standard chip that Jabba put into a box, in my hand at the mo!)
2. I would say thats a realsitic figure to be honest
I've had Jabba re-map and boost controller for about 12 months now, fantastic improvement and well worth the cost, I too had a long day travelling from Somerset to Peterborough and back but once again worth the effort.
Mike is ever so helpful and I for one have full confidence in the work they do.
My last rolling road at Jabba confirmed 279.6 bhp, again a hot run, have read-out at home but no way of placing it on site as only use PC at work!
Just wish I had enough cash for the IHI conversion
maybee in the future if I keep the car, done 34K now and still enjoy every moment :clap:
1. Jabba replace your chip, and map that one. (Just in case anyone comes along and says thats not true, I have the standard chip that Jabba put into a box, in my hand at the mo!)
Yeah i carry mine everywhere too :hide:
Well strictly speaking they don't always replace the chip - they do port programming for diesels now.
I didn't get my chip back from Jabba Sport as they say they like to keep hold of them.
Their explanation was that the only place to go to get it returned to the original map was Jabba and that a lot of people were losing their OE chip, so it is better for Jabb to hold on for safe keeping.
Kam, is your car better now?
Was it related to the mapping?
Kam, is your car better now?
Was it related to the mapping?
Hi mate...No, car still sitting on my drive waiting to go in to the dealer on Tuesday. Going to give Jabba a call later, just to see what they think but I am quite sure it is related to something mechanical.
The AA plugged in their laptop and it came back with no fault codes. Think that means that the ECU is all well.
The boost controller is taken off, car is now stock boost...
It has left me with slight reservations about Jabba, although I'm sure its nothing to do with their mapping. Would be interested to see what's caused it.
Up until recently, I've been 100% sure that jabba was the way to go... now i'm considering Revo.
Kam, have you driven both?
It has left me with slight reservations about Jabba, although I'm sure its nothing to do with their mapping. Would be interested to see what's caused it.
Up until recently, I've been 100% sure that jabba was the way to go... now i'm considering Revo.
Kam, have you driven both?
No, never had REVO before.
I have to say that when you re-map a car, you stand a higher chance of something going wrong. If a component is weak due to wear & tear or otherwise, the extra power will finish it off quicker than if the boost were factory! It will go, depends on it being sooner or later.
There are plenty Leons on this forum who have run with Jabba or REVO with no probs... Both REVO and Jabba will give similiar power outputs, so your risks will be the same.
Kam
After reading your notes I'm a bit worried. I'm booked in for Jabba next Wednesday. In your opinion, how big is the risk? I especially noted your statement on things failing early.
Kam
After reading your notes I'm a bit worried. I'm booked in for Jabba next Wednesday. In your opinion, how big is the risk? I especially noted your statement on things failing early.
I am merely saying what I have been told in that when you chip your car, there is a greater risk of component failure. That is not to say it will happen as there are many people who have chipped their cars with no problems, just a greater risk!
We all know that we all have different experiences with cars, if a car has a component that is weak due to its manufacturing or otherwise, the extra load there is when chipped, could make that part fail sooner rather than later.
I chipped my car bearing this in mind of the greater risk but I think the fun that comes with a remap far outweighs the little extra risk! When you drive your car away from Jabba next week, the thrill will make your worries disappear!!
Thanks for your honesty Kam. I'm just gonna do it!
Wassup with your car?
Thanks for your honesty Kam. I'm just gonna do it!
Wassup with your car?
Do it mate! You won't regret it!
My car is running in what appears to be a safe mode. Could be a knackered MAF sensor. Going it tomorrow...
Good luck. Hope it gets sorted m8.
When i went to jabba the car was on the the rollers for at least 30 mins i thought he was remaping it when i ask how it was going i was told he hadn't even started as he was cheacking every thing out first before he did any thing so i think your car would be well looked after . The only down side is you get used to to quickly had to turn down the controler a few times to see what its like standard again
The only down side is you get used to to quickly had to turn down the controler a few times to see what its like standard again
Unplug the boost controller and drive the car without it for a couple of days, remind yourself of how it used to be like!!
Kam,
My R has been given the Jabba treatment and I sufferred a problem earlier this year with power loss. My initial thoughts were a MAF problem, indeed at a rolling road day I attended Kev from Revo was there and agreed to take my Jabba's car out for a spin linked to his laptop, he agreed the lack of power and pointed to a possible MAF fault.
I duly had a replacement MAF but here's the best bit, when I was removing the boost controller in order to take the car to the dealer the wires came adrift from the controller itself, thus I was only running on actuator pressure with little or no boost at all, the MAF replace a phone call to Mike at Jabba and a 500 mile trip sorted the problem with a quivk re-run and toch of soldering by Jabba.
Check the boost controller carefully to ensure all wires are secure, not saying this is problem with your car but it happened to me.
Good luck mate :thumbup:
Kam,
My R has been given the Jabba treatment and I sufferred a problem earlier this year with power loss. My initial thoughts were a MAF problem, indeed at a rolling road day I attended Kev from Revo was there and agreed to take my Jabba's car out for a spin linked to his laptop, he agreed the lack of power and pointed to a possible MAF fault.
I duly had a replacement MAF but here's the best bit, when I was removing the boost controller in order to take the car to the dealer the wires came adrift from the controller itself, thus I was only running on actuator pressure with little or no boost at all, the MAF replace a phone call to Mike at Jabba and a 500 mile trip sorted the problem with a quivk re-run and toch of soldering by Jabba.
Check the boost controller carefully to ensure all wires are secure, not saying this is problem with your car but it happened to me.
Good luck mate :thumbup:
Thanks for the tip mate!! Do you mean the wires came adrift on the part with the dial that you turn?
Car is with the dealer now, will hear from them tomorrow. Just hope it is something slmall like the MAF.
Yep that's right, I used to remove the damn thing quite regularly as car was always going back to dealers for one thing or another, I suppose by constantly removing it the wires came adrift from the solder. At first glance I didn't realise until I removed it and found it wasn't actually connected!
3 wires if I remember go into the actual controller unit with the wheel for boost control, just gently pull back the outer covering and check if all intact.
Let me know how you get on.
Cheers :)
Yep that's right, I used to remove the damn thing quite regularly as car was always going back to dealers for one thing or another, I suppose by constantly removing it the wires came adrift from the solder. At first glance I didn't realise until I removed it and found it wasn't actually connected!
3 wires if I remember go into the actual controller unit with the wheel for boost control, just gently pull back the outer covering and check if all intact.
Let me know how you get on.
Cheers :)
Thanks mate, I will check the controller tonight as that is at home! First time it has been removed. Getting the cable out far enough from under the steering column to unplug the jack was a chore. Had to be a little agressive as they bundled it up and the mass it created got trapped.
Well, as long as it is done once, you know! :rolleyes: I cannot wait to get the car back. Driving the wife's 1.1 Peugeot is not much fun. :( gone from 230 Bhp to 60 Bhp...
Here's the diagnosis from the dealer: Click Here (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?p=397843&posted=1#post397843)
Sounds like bad luck then Kam - mind, you've had the car a fair while now i guess so the MAFs not exactly new ;)
Sounds like bad luck then Kam - mind, you've had the car a fair while now i guess so the MAFs not exactly new ;)
I suppose, going to pick the car up later! Might as well say the MAF is a wear and tear item!
yeah, they really are rubbish.
Does anyone know what it is that makes them fail so quickly? Do any other cars suffer with this?
yeah, they really are rubbish.
Does anyone know what it is that makes them fail so quickly? Do any other cars suffer with this?
Apparently Merc Benz ones can be fitted to VAG cars. Cheaper (--yes! cheaper--) and better than the ones we have to put up with.
MAF sensors are prone to damage as they are quite fragile, location near to the air box can sometimes cause problems when fitting/removing new elements or especially induction kits, care should be taken not to knock the MAF housing.
Just a few thoughts thats all.
Hope all goes well soon, have you attempted to echange it under warranty yet? :cheers:
ibizacupra
21-07-2004, 15:19
Vibration is a killer. Fragile element.
Also contamination.... check ya breather pipes on the induction side to see oil everywhere... pulled into the inlet for re-breathing, but blows about in the inlet path (DV vents in here too remember) - consequence is oil can and does get on the MAF. Not induction kit usually, but engine oil.
Checked mine last night and my MAF was dripping with oil. (engine) Worked ok however. Track use, high boost, severe cornering all sloshes the oil about, and it gets into the breather system which can't cope.
VAG MAF's are abysmal for reliability tho.
Mercedes MAF's (Pierburg) are for some diesels tho.. Not sure they will work on petrol 1.8T
monkeynuts
21-07-2004, 15:24
How much is a maf to buy from seat and have we got the same sort of quality problems the coil packs had?
ibizacupra
21-07-2004, 15:39
~£200 outright previously.. and IMHO yea, they are VAG's next 'coilpack' component
Kam
Sorry to hear about it mate.
I took your advice and was Jabba'd today. 228 bhp/250 torque..................
URGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Loverly!
Glad I took your advice.
Take care.
Rod
Oh!
Got a DV as well. Bailey DV30.
Unfortunatley I am a Tdi owner.
I have been to jabbasport twice the first time I went they said it wouldnt remap due to a faulty MAF sensor.
After £260 and no difference in performance. I went back, they messed around with it and said they couldn't remap it. (we will have to send the map off and get it modified!!)
Its OK but it is a 3 hour drive to their place.
The third time I had it booked in I rang up to see what they thought and Mike said I cant guarentee anything (inspires confidence) hence I have spent my money on other mods hence I loose people on the corners rather than the streights. Better than dumping a cloud of smoke and going nowhere
Kam
Sorry to hear about it mate.
I took your advice and was Jabba'd today. 228 bhp/250 torque..................
URGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Loverly!
Glad I took your advice.
Take care.
Rod
Well done matey!! Welcome to the Jabba crew.
Where abouts in Kent are you? I frequent that way on the way to work....well, between the M25 and London on the A2 :rolleyes:
Mottingham by Chislehurst.
Unfortunatley I am a Tdi owner.
I have been to jabbasport twice the first time I went they said it wouldnt remap due to a faulty MAF sensor.
After £260 and no difference in performance. I went back, they messed around with it and said they couldn't remap it. (we will have to send the map off and get it modified!!)
Its OK but it is a 3 hour drive to their place.
The third time I had it booked in I rang up to see what they thought and Mike said I cant guarentee anything (inspires confidence) hence I have spent my money on other mods hence I loose people on the corners rather than the streights. Better than dumping a cloud of smoke and going nowhere
I have a friend who has a TDi Passat. He had a re-map done by Upsolute (http://www.upsolute.com/) , sure they can sort you out if Jabba won't.
Mottingham by Chislehurst.
I see...know where that is! Not a bad place. :)
It was nice a few years back. Getting plenty of ***holes moving round here.
chazndave
23-07-2004, 17:45
Any other Jabba'ed Leon owners? They should have a bit on the forum just for us! REVO has one after all. ;)
Yea :happy:
Got mine done a week ago. I cant believe what the Jabba's can do. wasnt expecting anything like what I got.
My car is only just over a year old, done 10K miles; what would you guys recommend that I do next (when the Jabba has been payed for) ???? :thumbup:
CMON..........................we want a Jabba section!
Rod