Ibiza MK3 Tdi110 with more than 200hp

[HappyMike]

Hi m8's

I have a friend here in Portugal that has a Ibiza mk3, tdi110 version... He has done some upgrades on it and the bombastic result is this:


With the original chip

http://tdisportr.no.sapo.pt/foto%20017.jpg

http://tdisportr.no.sapo.pt/foto%20018.jpg


With a modified chip

http://tdisportr.no.sapo.pt/img%20007.jpg

http://tdisportr.no.sapo.pt/areiasmbpower%20001.jpg



It's probably one of the most powerful tdi 110 around... :worship:


Cheers m8's

[Jon TDI]

For some reason, I can't see the pics, but 200bhp is great!!
Who supplied the chip?

[HappyMike]

Hmmm... I can see the pictures, so I don´t understand why you can´t... :blink:

The electronic and th rest of the work is made by some portuguese friends...

[StevoWarby]

Around what revs does the turbo kick in?!! (Just kidding!)

Stevo

[Jon TDI]

Hmmm... I can see the pictures, so I don´t understand why you can´t... :blink:

The electronic and th rest of the work is made by some portuguese friends...

At work at the moment, so it might be a filter blocking your webpage.
I'll have a look at the pics when I get home.

[Jon TDI]

Now I can see the pics.

It's about 160bhp standard! Now that's good going.

[markmck]

its certainly shoving out some torque

what mods have been done?

[driveforward]

what mods have been done?
Indeed..??

[prc]

It's got tons of work. turbo, injectors, intake, exhaust, IC. It is very, very fast. :)

[Jon TDI]

It's got tons of work. turbo, injectors, intake, exhaust, IC. It is very, very fast. :)

I thought it was good going for just a chip!!!! :D

[Infinity]

Great job man!!!!

[Revo Kev]

I drove this over the weekend, and yes it's damn quick... very impressive indeed.
Good to meet you guys... nice motors!

[mojogoes]

Does anyone know tdi-rs with 240whp mk2 golf tdi me i've only got 175whp 205 fly fmic .216 t25/28 turbo 360thrust, pump mod,boostvalve ,316 s/s header ,next level over 200whp.

Level3 Rods,pistons,cam,11mm, inlet plenum and this is with out methanol

[Jon TDI]

Does anyone know tdi-rs with 240whp mk2 golf tdi me i've only got 175whp 205 fly fmic .216 t25/28 turbo 360thrust, pump mod,boostvalve ,316 s/s header ,next level over 200whp.

Level3 Rods,pistons,cam,11mm, inlet plenum and this is with out methanol

I know of him on the Club GTI forum. Central VW Audi isn't it?

[mojogoes]

Thats right jon what do you think about his new level of pony's

[Jon TDI]

Thats right jon what do you think about his new level of pony's

Didn't know he was running that much power now!
What's he done to it now?

[mojogoes]

He has had the pump moded again and some race injector added whitch flow 40% more than mine and mine are good for 190+whp , inlet plenum WOW should see that .
New rods £800 because he bent the old ones , once you get up to and past 190whp you will need the rods for shaw these are even alot stronger than the pd150's , so if anyone claims (e.g.250-300hp)silly hp with no2 or without first they have to have the fuel whitch rules out the people with no no2 because world wide there's only 6 sets of the race injectors size .260 mc and to show you the differance the 110hp has .205's .

And for the n20 boys that claime hp as much 330-550hp the rods would be bent before these hp levels.

[HappyMike]

I drove this over the weekend, and yes it's damn quick... very impressive indeed.
Good to meet you guys... nice motors!


Hi Kev... It´s was nice to have you here... Hope to see you soon... You have to test Leon :)

[Ibiza Evo 2]

With that much Hp and torque he must have another gearbox probably :confused: :-o

[HappyMike]

Nop... It´s the original gear box...

[Ibiza Evo 2]

Nop... It´s the original gear box...

The original is probably modded then.Otherwise it wouldn't handle so much power :blink: .

I know somebody who had a golf MK3 TDI110 with some mods and he had about 158hp and 400Nm.He had 2 broken gearboxes.

[micky 32]

what about the rods? will they not bend? are the conrods different on the PD150 than the 130? both engines produce similair torque so id imagine they are the same?

[basstard]

Are you sure about the gearbox?
Don't really think it can handle 435 Nm!!
Anyway great great car. Would really like to take a ride on it but I'm too far.

May I ask the price of the whole modding?

[TdiSportR]

mojogoes: Does anyone know tdi-rs with 240whp mk2 golf tdi me i've only got 175whp 205 fly fmic .216 t25/28 turbo 360thrust, pump mod,boostvalve ,316 s/s header ,next level over 200whp.

Level3 Rods,pistons,cam,11mm, inlet plenum and this is with out methanol

Hi,
let me tell you something... i just have a different IC, turbo, nozzles, exhaust and pump injection. The engine is a stock engine.
How many hp have TDI-RS at 5000rpm? Duh... :whistle:

basstard: Are you sure about the gearbox?

Original gearbox.

The car was tuned by Miguel P. and Becas :worship:
There's a dyno
http://tdisportr.no.sapo.pt/Fernandes.jpg

and some photos

http://tdisportr.no.sapo.pt/Estoril%20011.jpg

http://tdisportr.no.sapo.pt/Engine1.jpg

http://tdisportr.no.sapo.pt/IntercoolerALL1.jpg

Regards

[mojogoes]

What turbo are you using on this ibiza and what /how much boost cheers

[basstard]

Man I'd like to know the models/brands of the stuff you used on your engine [turbo, IC and all the rest].

plus what clutch you got?

Nice lookin motor mate, bet it's a pleasure to drive.

[mojogoes]

I recon its a moded vnt17 basstard, but how much boost do you thinks he's running 22psi do you recon.

[prc]

It not a modded VNT17...much bigger. :)

[mojogoes]

No affence but tell us what it is not what its not ,if you know what it isn't you must know what it is yes.
Also the amounts of boost its running.

[mojogoes]

This information on its own will tell mee everything

[TdiSportR]

What turbo are you using on this ibiza and what /how much boost cheers

Sorry but i won't answer to all questions. It makes 1,5Bar all the way.

Man I'd like to know the models/brands of the stuff you used on your engine [turbo, IC and all the rest].

plus what clutch you got?

Nice lookin motor mate, bet it's a pleasure to drive.

Turbo - home made with Garrett parts
IC - Allard
Clutch - Special one

I recon its a moded vnt17 basstard, but how much boost do you thinks he's running 22psi do you recon.

But it is of your knowledge or not? It seems me that is not. I've already say that it runs with 1,5Bar.

No affence but tell us what it is not what its not ,if you know what it isn't you must know what it is yes.
Also the amounts of boost its running.

This information on its own will tell mee everything

prc ( Paulo ) won't tell anything more. The topic was open to show a TDI110 with a stock engine and moded peripherals and that's all. Thank god some UK friend's of prc had a ride on it to give their testemonials.
This project has been started since june 2004 and hasn't been stoped. Now Seat Ibiza TDI Sport has news parts and it's more powerfull than shows on that dyno.
Regards.

[mojogoes]

I did not read all the post so sorry for that ,and if you read my sig i hyde nothing and most of what you have on your car isn't news to me......take that intake as my point who do you think started using those , and is that a G60/RS intercooler and lastley the injectors you are using have got to be either bosch .216's or like mine R520's.........no secrets there then. P.S mine runs 25psi not that it mattters
your is a nice ride cos its a diesel which does matter yes.

[basstard]

thanx for the reply tdisport.

Can I ask you something more?

did you have to saw off/re-route something to fit that IC?
Did it came out from allard with all the piping too or did you have to build your own?

it seems you removed the egr too right?
The pump seems like standard [bosch VP37??], is that hammer moded or what?

Still I get astonished when thinking about standard internals and gearbox,,, yet that puts a smile on my face thinking that all in all the mechanical parts are good stuff in this car [touching wood]. but then ibiza evo II says he know someone who broke 2 gearboxes,,, I guess it depends on how the power is delivered and most of all on how you drive it.

[micky 32]

whats the smoke like, and the turbo spool up smoke?

[mojogoes]

Micky have ya got standard injjectors in or bigger

[micky 32]

just the standard PD130/150 injectors but i believe they are now at maximun flow, so more power means uprated injectors.

[TdiSportR]

I did not read all the post so sorry for that ,and if you read my sig i hyde nothing and most of what you have on your car isn't news to me......take that intake as my point who do you think started using those , and is that a G60/RS intercooler and lastley the injectors you are using have got to be either bosch .216's or like mine R520's.........no secrets there then. P.S mine runs 25psi not that it mattters
your is a nice ride cos its a diesel which does matter yes.

If it isn't secret great! All i have can be get somewhere else... but that's not the question. The question is especulation.
Intercooler, nozzles, pump injector, intake, turbo, exhaust is only what i have.
Nozzles - PP502.

thanx for the reply tdisport.

Can I ask you something more?

did you have to saw off/re-route something to fit that IC?
Did it came out from allard with all the piping too or did you have to build your own?

it seems you removed the egr too right?
The pump seems like standard [bosch VP37??], is that hammer moded or what?

Still I get astonished when thinking about standard internals and gearbox,,, yet that puts a smile on my face thinking that all in all the mechanical parts are good stuff in this car [touching wood]. but then ibiza evo II says he know someone who broke 2 gearboxes,,, I guess it depends on how the power is delivered and most of all on how you drive it.

Yes. They have to saw some things in its front to fit the IC. I don't use EGR and MAF ( right now ). Pump has been hammer moded lol.
I have a few friends with 170-190hp with original gearbox without any problems, because we use high revs!

whats the smoke like, and the turbo spool up smoke?

Smokes a little at spooling up, but quickly! Then becames clean.

[mojogoes]

TdisportR do you mean the maf is turned down or off all together or are you saying you have no maf at all i.e programmed out by chip tuning.
This setup would be good for me seing that i go through a maf ayear.

[Jonto]

sweet

[TdiSportR]

I leave here a movie made in an up-hill in 5th gear.
~239km/h at 5000rpm.

http://rapidshare.de/files/1360506/TDI5000RPM.3gp.html

Gear Km/h per 1000 RPM Km/h @4400 RPM Km/h @5000 RPM
--------------------------------------------------------
1 9.41 41 47
2 17.23 76 86
3 26.37 116 132
4 36.76 162 184
5 47.78 210 239

[sssstew]

cant get the movie :( i think youve exceeded your bandwidth limit.

[TdiSportR]

http://tdisportr.no.sapo.pt/TDI/TDI5000RPM.3gp

[basstard]

Didn't think a diesel could rev THAT high :worship:

[sssstew]

wow! thats insane..... have you bypassed the rev limiter set in the ecu?

[basstard]

This is the point: we dunno if these tdis have got a limiter or not,,, I think they have but woudn't like to try,,, since electronic injection all cars should have one.

Anyway, by remapping is very simple to set the limiter higher,,, or remove it completely setting it for example at 10000 rpm :D

[sssstew]

carlo, the rev limit it set in the ECU for the car, ive hit it a few times, its about 4k.

and yes you can remove it when remapping, i think superchips does it on some of their maps from what ive read in diesel car mag some time ago.

[basstard]

No man, mine definitively revs more than 4k ;)

IMHO it's about in the region where the red part of the rpm counter begins.

[markmck]

I didn'ty think TDi's had a limit as it was the limit of the fuel pump how far it would rev - would like to know for sure

[micky 32]

mine revs to 5000rpm too, had 60mph in second

[Ibiza Evo 2]

I've been at 1/4mile sprints with my tdi and I also rev up to about 5000rpm.It's still very fast in the first 3 gears till about 5200rpm.

My tdi110 runs about 145hp and 258lbs/ft. A couple of weeks ago a rod has broken and I only had 70000km on the counter.I guess the rods don't like so much torque :blink: .

I also would like to have more hp but the torque is good enough for me.My tuner says that's about everything he could get out of the ecu but I think there is still more available.I was thinking of replacing the original IC by the replacement IC from Forge or maybe other injectors and then mod the fuel pump.But I'm still doubting because of the broken rod :(

[TdiSportR]

With a medium file ( about 200hp )

3rd and 4th gear

http://tdisportr.no.sapo.pt/TDI/RPM.3gp

[sssstew]

yep sorry, i meant 5k, not 4 above.

[sssstew]

wow.. in that 2nd vid.. its hitting 6k rpm!!! woah!

[basstard]

With a medium file ( about 200hp )

3rd and 4th gear

http://tdisportr.no.sapo.pt/TDI/RPM.3gp


:-o :-o :-o :-o

[basstard]

I've been at 1/4mile sprints with my tdi and I also rev up to about 5000rpm.It's still very fast in the first 3 gears till about 5200rpm.

My tdi110 runs about 145hp and 258lbs/ft. A couple of weeks ago a rod has broken and I only had 70000km on the counter.I guess the rods don't like so much torque :blink: .

I also would like to have more hp but the torque is good enough for me.My tuner says that's about everything he could get out of the ecu but I think there is still more available.I was thinking of replacing the original IC by the replacement IC from Forge or maybe other injectors and then mod the fuel pump.But I'm still doubting because of the broken rod :(

Seems strange a rod broke like that,,, any other damage caused by the broken rod BTW? is the block still ok?

To me the very important thing is to not have huge torques low down,,, it's better to have an "old school" car that is somewhat "empty" low down and then as the turbo kicks in it goes bang,,, as I think TdisportR has.

I got the same problem: the car is chipped and it has tons of fuel sent in before the turbo kicks in,,, it smokes like a feckin train man and this is not good at all.

If I were you I'd try another tuner [not slagging anybody - just a consideration] because it seems very strange that you broke a rod with 145hp and 70k kms while the guy here has 200+hp with std internals.
At least try to ask for less fuel low down and more boost in the 2.3k> region if you want more power.

[TdiSportR]

http://tdisportr.no.sapo.pt/foto1.jpg

http://tdisportr.no.sapo.pt/TDI/TdiSportREstoril.JPG

[basstard]

dammit mate, that car sits way low doesn't it?! how you gonna steer those wheels?

Now seriously, the above video is crazy, have you removed the limiter or really there isn't one? + have you used a custom paint on your car?

[TdiSportR]

There's no rev limiter. Only a rev where pump doesn't inject fuel or reduce it.
You're chiptuner may know how to get it out.
Regards.

[sssstew]

very nice looking car there, and done the cupra front end on it as well, looks nice :)

[Ibiza Evo 2]

Seems strange a rod broke like that,,, any other damage caused by the broken rod BTW? is the block still ok?

To me the very important thing is to not have huge torques low down,,, it's better to have an "old school" car that is somewhat "empty" low down and then as the turbo kicks in it goes bang,,, as I think TdisportR has.

I got the same problem: the car is chipped and it has tons of fuel sent in before the turbo kicks in,,, it smokes like a feckin train man and this is not good at all.

If I were you I'd try another tuner [not slagging anybody - just a consideration] because it seems very strange that you broke a rod with 145hp and 70k kms while the guy here has 200+hp with std internals.
At least try to ask for less fuel low down and more boost in the 2.3k> region if you want more power.

There was no other damage with the broken rod,infact it wasn't the rod itself but the bearing connected to the gearbox (I don't know the exact word for it).

My max torque is about 2500rpm and max hp about 3600rpm so I don't have too much torque low down.I only push the pedal to the metal above 2000rpm.

My tuner is a good friend of mine and I got the chip for free.In Belgium he is a well know tuner and is specialised in TDI programming (chip/OBD).

The beezer tdi with +200hp is still a mistery to me how everything holds together :confused: .But still :-o :-o :-o :thumbup: :thumbup:

[basstard]

There was no other damage with the broken rod,infact it wasn't the rod itself but the bearing connected to the gearbox (I don't know the exact word for it).

My max torque is about 2500rpm and max hp about 3600rpm so I don't have too much torque low down.I only push the pedal to the metal above 2000rpm.

My tuner is a good friend of mine and I got the chip for free.In Belgium he is a well know tuner and is specialised in TDI programming (chip/OBD).

The beezer tdi with +200hp is still a mistery to me how everything holds together :confused: .But still :-o :-o :-o :thumbup: :thumbup:

You mean the bearing between the rod and the engine shaft then? max torque @ 2500 rpm seems way too high the rev range. what mods have you done and how many NM? Is your tuner JD?

Anyway, can't see the bearing failure connected to too high torque then.

To me too it's a mistery how tdisportR's car's still ok,,, but again :worship:

[Ibiza Evo 2]

You mean the bearing between the rod and the engine shaft then? max torque @ 2500 rpm seems way too high the rev range. what mods have you done and how many NM? Is your tuner JD?

Anyway, can't see the bearing failure connected to too high torque then.

To me too it's a mistery how tdisportR's car's still ok,,, but again :worship:

Yes,that's what I mean.
The mods I have done is a custom made exhaust in 63,5mm without cat,BMC-CDA airbox,EGR closed and intake cleaned,pump timing adjusted,snow screen removed and chipped by AutotuneHeinz.

This is the dynoresult :

http://img204.echo.cx/img204/5425/eindresultaat1b8uj.jpg

[basstard]

Man lemme tell ya one thing: that torque is huge for a 110!!

If you look at the graph tho, you can see that it's about the same at 2k rpm so it's not that 'high revs' as you said,,,

Anyway, what would concern me more would be the gearbox mate. I'd consider a rod bearing a minor harm.

Still the torque you have is huge compared to the hp,,,

I never RRd my car but I guess it's about 135-140hp with something like 280-290 NM,,, so the tipical remap for a 110.

Your car must be a pleasure to drive mate.

[markmck]

Man lemme tell ya one thing: that torque is huge for a 110!!

If you look at the graph tho, you can see that it's about the same at 2k rpm so it's not that 'high revs' as you said,,,

Anyway, what would concern me more would be the gearbox mate. I'd consider a rod bearing a minor harm.

Still the torque you have is huge compared to the hp,,,

I never RRd my car but I guess it's about 135-140hp with something like 280-290 NM,,, so the tipical remap for a 110.

Your car must be a pleasure to drive mate.


I got my 110 chipped a while back and now I want more.

Yes my clutch is on the way out so it'll need doing too. what's the turbo replacement options apart from the VNT17 for a 110

[Ibiza Evo 2]

Man lemme tell ya one thing: that torque is huge for a 110!!

If you look at the graph tho, you can see that it's about the same at 2k rpm so it's not that 'high revs' as you said,,,

Anyway, what would concern me more would be the gearbox mate. I'd consider a rod bearing a minor harm.

Still the torque you have is huge compared to the hp,,,

I never RRd my car but I guess it's about 135-140hp with something like 280-290 NM,,, so the tipical remap for a 110.

Your car must be a pleasure to drive mate.


Thx for the compliments mate :thumbup: ;)

I asked for a "heavy" program because I participate in 1/4mile sprints from time to time.I'm very happy about the torque but the hp's are a bit too low :( .
The weakest part is the clutch.So this will fail sooner then the gearbox I think.

It's indeed a pleasure to drive with :roflmao:

[basstard]

I got my 110 chipped a while back and now I want more.

Yes my clutch is on the way out so it'll need doing too. what's the turbo replacement options apart from the VNT17 for a 110

No man, stick with the VNT-17 I know it can handle 1.6 bar [if you get the 150 version which is a VNT-17 like the 130's one but has stronger internals] and maybe more. That's a lot on a 110, infact, if you see the video of the beezer of this thread it reaches 1.6/1.7 bar. I know it hasn't a VNT-17 tho.

You could use a VNT-20 or 22 but:
1-I dunno if they will fit in the beezer tiny engine bay
2-those turbos are too big and you'll have peak pressure @ ~2500rpm and a lot of lag,,, that's not what I personally like.

Or you could stick for a wastegated turbo but then again a lot of lag. This could be an advantage tho in order to preserve the gearbox,,,

Ideally my 110 would have this mods:

1-VNT-17 or a GT28rs by garrett [wategated on ball bearings and another league compared to the VNT-17]
2-big FMIC [whichever is good]
3-kerma .502 injector nozzles
4-heavy duty clutch
5-[dream mode on] 6 spd gearbox from a beezer 130 or 160 which is capable of handling big low down torques we can only dream of.

IMHO with a VNT-17 [which bolts straight on] a big IC and kerma nozzles you can reach 170-180hp no prob. mojogoes here has about 200hp with his 90hp, a wastegated turbo, audi rs2 IC, kerma nozzles and other minor mods.

So if you got the money, big hp is not this difficult.

[basstard]

I asked for a "heavy" program because I participate in 1/4mile sprints from time to time.I'm very happy about the torque but the hp's are a bit too low :( .
The weakest part is the clutch.So this will fail sooner then the gearbox I think.

I know the weakest part is the clutch but it's dirt cheap compared to a gearbox or a DMF so I don't even consider it when talking about possible damage.

IMHO you should try to let the car "rev more" in the sense you should use more revs on which "lay down" all that torque. I know it's not this easy but it can be done I reckon.

Big trucks have stupidly huge amounts of torque but they have them for a 1500 rpm range for example so they are slow.
Having big torque helps for driveability but on the drag strip if you challenge a high revving jap arse with a 1/3 of the torque you have big chances of losing if you can't get your car to rev a bit more than this.

[Ibiza Evo 2]

I know the weakest part is the clutch but it's dirt cheap compared to a gearbox or a DMF so I don't even consider it when talking about possible damage.

IMHO you should try to let the car "rev more" in the sense you should use more revs on which "lay down" all that torque. I know it's not this easy but it can be done I reckon.

Big trucks have stupidly huge amounts of torque but they have them for a 1500 rpm range for example so they are slow.
Having big torque helps for driveability but on the drag strip if you challenge a high revving jap arse with a 1/3 of the torque you have big chances of losing if you can't get your car to rev a bit more than this.

So the clutch will give up sooner then the gearbox.
I don't drive in low revs and I always pull up when I'm above 2000/2200rpm.
In the first 3 gears it keeps on going 'till the red zone without any lag in high revs.
I got a 15.775sec on the 1/4mile so I think that isn't too bad.

But what you're saying about turbo presurre....the original vnt-15 can handle also high pressures.Mine peaks at 1.5Bar but the car goes int safety mode only at 1.9Bar.

[basstard]

So the clutch will give up sooner then the gearbox.
I don't drive in low revs and I always pull up when I'm above 2000/2200rpm.
In the first 3 gears it keeps on going 'till the red zone without any lag in high revs.
I got a 15.775sec on the 1/4mile so I think that isn't too bad.

But what you're saying about turbo presurre....the original vnt-15 can handle also high pressures.Mine peaks at 1.5Bar but the car goes int safety mode only at 1.9Bar.

I don't think so mate. Limp/safety mode triggering can be set by mapping so your car goes limp @ 1.9 but it's mapped.
AFAIK when the ecu program is standard, it goes limp mode when there's +300 millibar [0.3 bar] more than requested pressure.
and AFAIK the VNT-15 is rated for 1.2 bar constant,,, at least it is said like this by the tdi gurus at tdiclub.com.

[Ibiza Evo 2]

I don't think so mate. Limp/safety mode triggering can be set by mapping so your car goes limp @ 1.9 but it's mapped.
AFAIK when the ecu program is standard, it goes limp mode when there's +300 millibar [0.3 bar] more than requested pressure.
and AFAIK the VNT-15 is rated for 1.2 bar constant,,, at least it is said like this by the tdi gurus at tdiclub.com.


Ok,I'm wrong then :redface: .That's what they told me :blink:

[TdiSportR]

So the clutch will give up sooner then the gearbox.
I don't drive in low revs and I always pull up when I'm above 2000/2200rpm.
In the first 3 gears it keeps on going 'till the red zone without any lag in high revs.
I got a 15.775sec on the 1/4mile so I think that isn't too bad.

But what you're saying about turbo presurre....the original vnt-15 can handle also high pressures.Mine peaks at 1.5Bar but the car goes int safety mode only at 1.9Bar.

It couldn't read that pressure. Only can read about to 2530mBar ( 1,53Bar of pressure ). But there's many ways to let it make more.

[Ibiza Evo 2]

It couldn't read that pressure. Only can read about to 2530mBar ( 1,53Bar of pressure ). But there's many ways to let it make more.


You mean with vag-com probably?
I have a boost gauge mounted that goes to 3 Bar ;)

[mojogoes]

But does the boost.........Basstard is right its always better to have the car mapped properly instead of tricking the systems sensors , i know diesels unlike petrols do not have a ratio that you need to keep to but just dumping the fuel in and then trying to what is known as (out air) that amount of fuel with the most boost possible is not the way to go.
We all know that tuning box's have there place but at higher levels of tune and the amounts of fuel you get with say the Race 520's, its best to have it all mapped out.
Contrary to what i say on tdiclub.com the higher up the hp level you go the more pressure you need , you can get away with big time high boost after dropping in some big race nozzles 30psi comes to mind but
shortly after you'll after up the fuel pressure so you dod'nt smoke like we all know what and is where the pd's come in.

[TdiSportR]

But does the boost.........Basstard is right its always better to have the car mapped properly instead of tricking the systems sensors , i know diesels unlike petrols do not have a ratio that you need to keep to but just dumping the fuel in and then trying to what is known as (out air) that amount of fuel with the most boost possible is not the way to go.
We all know that tuning box's have there place but at higher levels of tune and the amounts of fuel you get with say the Race 520's, its best to have it all mapped out.
Contrary to what i say on tdiclub.com the higher up the hp level you go the more pressure you need , you can get away with big time high boost after dropping in some big race nozzles 30psi comes to mind but
shortly after you'll after up the fuel pressure so you dod'nt smoke like we all know what and is where the pd's come in.

But how you can remap it if sensor can read more than 1,53Bar? I know how without tricks.
As you can see it doesn't need high pressures to higher up hp's. There's a lot of TDI runing with 1,8Bar with only 160-170hp. My Tdi with 1,4Bar in the same dynamometer gets 214,2hp.

[basstard]

1.4 bar on a 110? :blink: and yo runnin' 214hp,,, does that thing guzzles tons of fuel then right? what's the smoke like mate?

Then what turbo you're using? I guess the VNT-17 is good for 1.4 and should have almost no lag.

[TdiSportR]

VNT17 is too small. Doesn't matter the pressure it can give, but the air flow that it can produce.

[basstard]

ok, I get it now,,,

So even if you run "just" 1.4bar then if you use a turbo which is as big as your head then you won't have smoke problems,,, and big hp. Never thought about this,,,

[TdiSportR]

Yes.

[markmck]

which turbo then ?

what manifold? is it a custom ?

[TdiSportR]

which turbo then ?

what manifold? is it a custom ?

Hi!
It's an hybrid turbo made by the same people that made the turbo of Allard's Golf ( VW British Cup ).
There is the intake manifold.

http://tdisportr.no.sapo.pt/TDI/ColAdmissao.JPG