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Anybody got a Radar detector? If so it would be good to get a review of it up here. Some shite, some are not so bad.
Any Takers?
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Lee Shand
www.seatcupra.net (http://www.seatcupra.net)
A little birdy (ok, my mate in TraffPol) says that they are soon to be made illegal again...
You might want to get one now before they all disappear from the shop!
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http://www.horrible.demon.co.uk/
If I get more than 20 Takers, Bell have agreed to give us a discount on the 550.
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Lee Shand
www.seatcupra.net (http://www.seatcupra.net)
Is The Geodesy (Or However you spell it) any good?
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Lee Shand
www.seatcupra.net (http://www.seatcupra.net)
Alex French has a Geodesy & reckons it's spot on for fixed camera's.
plus it's not illegal. whereas the use of the radar detectors are soon to be illegal to use & buy.
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Mark P
www.SEAT-Sport.co.uk
It dont pick the buggers up in the road works though. And there lies the problem
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Lee Shand
www.seatcupra.net (http://www.seatcupra.net)
Well, it brings around the whole question of why the cameras are there in the first place.
We all know that most cameras are placed by the council for maximum revenue generation now that they get a share of the bounty, but luckily most of these are placed where you shouldn't be speeding anyway - 30 and 40 limits in towns.
As with the roadworks, they are an inconvenience at 4am on a Bank Holiday when you know the buggers aren't working, but the cameras are there for a good reason - to protect the workforce (after all, it's much better to get hit by a truck at 40 than at 70, right?).
So with a little self restraint through the roadworks and in towns, you know that you're narrowing your chances of a NIP down dramatically, and while you're out on the open road the rozzers are more likely to be using the LIDAR (laser) devices anyway, which will pick you off from a quarter of a mile away before you even know they're there, and which no detector can pick up.
Remember that it's the inappropriate use of speed, not speed itself that makes it dangerous.
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http://www.horrible.demon.co.uk/
I thought that the top of the range Snoopers could detect the lazer detectors. Once detected you only get about 2 seconds to slow down before they get a reading of your speed.... and if you stamp on the brakes then you will probably get done for careless/dangerous driving!
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by antonye:
We all know that most cameras are placed by the council for maximum revenue generation now that they get a share of the bounty
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Cameras are placed at accident black spots. This is why they are usually clearly visible. They are not there so much to catch people speeding, but to slow the traffic at accident spots, thus cutting down on the number of accidents.
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by neilp:
Cameras are placed at accident black spots. This is why they are usually clearly visible. They are not there so much to catch people speeding, but to slow the traffic at accident spots, thus cutting down on the number of accidents.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Absolute bollocks! I see you didn't put a smiley at the end so you obviously believe this crap.
The Transport Research Laboratory (TRL) figures claim that motorways are the safest type of road in Britain, yet the M11/A11 is littered with speed cameras.
This particular road is in the middle of nowhere (no towns/villages) on a dead-straight 3-lane road, so there will never be any pedestrians/cyclists/children on or near it. How come they put speed cameras there?
We all know that ACPO guidelines say 10% + 2mph for a conviction, so given these figures, one of these speed cameras would nick me at 79mph, only 9mph over the posted speed limit.
If I was driving a 10-tonne truck down this road, which should be limited to 40mph, it can get upto 78mph without being caught - that's 38mph over the speed limit and nearly double what it should be doing! How does that work?
What if I tow a dangerous load on a trailer attached to my car at 78mph? Still no ticket but I'm 28mph over the required speed limit for vehicles towing a trailer. Why don't I get nicked?
Secondly, can you explain to me how a speed camera catches a dangerous driver, a drunken driver, an uninsured driver or an unroadworthy vehicle? All of these would be picked up by a Police patrol.
Finally, to quote an article in The Sun on Friday 16th May this year...
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"New Speed Cameras Trap Just Nine Drivers a Day"
New hi-tech speed cameras have proved a financial flop-
because they are so successful. Only nine drivers a day
are trapped by the devices which were expected to catch
sixty. So instead of heading for a profit of 1.4 million
in fines they are running at a loss of 2000 a month.
Six sets of the revolutionary digital cameras were
introduced in Nottingham seven months ago. They measure
the speed of cars between two points up to a mile apart.
But motorists soon learned where the traps were and
stuck to the speed limit.
The number of serious road accidents had dropped by 52
per cent and average vehicle speeds are down by 5mph.
...
Brian Parbutt, deputy leader of Nottingham Council said
"There was talk that this would be a money spinner. But
there has been a much lower level of income from the
fines. However, there has been a much bigger impact in
terms of reducing driver speeds and accidents."
Fellow councillor Alan Clark added: "We may have to
scale the project down if the income isn't forthcoming."
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Now tell me it isn't about money!
BTW, I'm all for the appropriate use of speed (see my post up there ^^^) but revenue generation while reducing patrols to stop potential accidents before they happen is not the way to go.
Speed is not the be-all and end-all of accidents, we require better driver education.
/rant
[This message has been edited by antonye (edited 28 June 2001).]
I'm afraid i have been caught today :(((. Let's hope they just fine me and i can keep my license.
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I hope you get of lightly mate.
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Lee Shand
www.seatcupra.net (http://www.seatcupra.net)
I have learned recently that about a gouverment report that looked in to how many accidents are speed related, the report came back with a figure of 7.5% the goverment seem to be to scared to publish this finding.
The same report looked at the accident figures two years before a speed camera was put up and then 2 years after the conclusion they came to was that the speed camera's had no effect in the area's they had tested, in fact the figures did dip the year that the camera was placed but they are now higher then ever before. When they looked further back they found that accident rate where lower still. Maybe it is to do with the amount of traffic on the roads.
At the end of the day the highest cause of accidents is the person behind the wheel 80% i believe
cheers
Saud
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Originally posted by neilp:
Cameras are placed at accident black spots. This is why they are usually clearly visible. They are not there so much to catch people speeding, but to slow the traffic at accident spots, thus cutting down on the number of accidents.
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Absolute bollocks! I see you didn't put a smiley at the end so you obviously believe this crap. <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Ok, cameras were initially placed at accident spots, but I agree that that is not (necessarily) the case any more.
In fact as the original message was "We all know that most cameras are placed by the council for maximum revenue generation now that they get a share of the bounty" I should have just kept my mouth shut.
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I was driving on a road that went from Colchester to Clacton, I can not remember what the road number was.
I was travelling down this road not much over the limit since I had a full car with a child in as well, it was a straight single carriage way 60 mph limit and if it had not been for my passangers who lived in the area warning me I would have got a speeding ticket, the road changed into a 40 mph limit with a camera 20 meters away from the sign (no camera warning sign until we went past the camera), no change in the road (still sraight) or surface and it did not become a residental area.
So why place a camera on this road?
could it be that people pick up speed on the straight and to generate extra revenue a camera was put in place and to make sure they catch more people a 40 mph limit was put in place.
Why put cameras in an accident black spot if only a few accidents are caused by speed?
Would it not be better if a sign was put up warning people they are speeding or warning them about the danger.
After all speed camera's only work until the road markings end and people find out where they are placed.
Saud
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