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andy_tech
19-11-2004, 01:37
I have modified the wiring (cut one wire) on mine to improve security.

Can be done instead of, or as well as mechanically delocking with lock blanking plate.

When done aswell as mechanically delocking this improves security further.


If done without delocking - as like me, can't be bothered painting blanking caps and are worried about getting in when remote battery goes flat or other electrical fault.

After modification (cutting wires) :

Can still lock normally from key lock.

Also can still unlock mechanically with the key, but does not activate central un-locking (and eliminates the other problem), and alarm goes off if door is opened - useful if remote key batteries go flat.

Remote operation is not affected and works as normal.

I did this on a Seat Toledo (year 1999) which uses the same controllers as VW Golf. I used the Golf wiring diagram.

Wiring colours or controller units may be different (depending on the year), so double check you have the correct wire before cutting.


Instructions :

Probably best to disconnect the battery first.

http://www.btinternet.com/~a_hutton/cut_wiring/int_handle.jpg
Screws in door handle with cover unclipped

Take the inner door panel off - the cover of the interior handle pulls off, it is held in place by clips - then there are 2 retaining screws behind. There are also 2 screws at the bottom edge of the door panel.

The door panel should then pull off - it is held by clips.

Lift the panel up slightly to clear locking knob and carefully pull out, there are several wires attached.

Unplug all the wires (hold plastic latch down on connector to release and pull out)- (speaker, door light, switches, alarm LED) and unclip the door latch cable.

http://www.btinternet.com/~a_hutton/cut_wiring/controller.jpg
Electric window motor and controller unit

The controller unit is attached to the electric window motor - the wires from the lock unit connect to here.

On mine the driver side controller/window motor was part number : 1J2 959 802 C. If you have the same controller the pin numbers below will be correct (if not the wire colours).


On the multiway plug there is a plastic latch at the bottom, this pulls down and releases the plug.

On the multiway plug the pin numbers are marked (very small moulded into the plastic).

Pin 29 - Brown/Blue stripe wire - Ground to the lock unit.

Pin 4 - Yellow/Green stripe (or VW Golf - Green/Red stripe) wire - Key unlock switch in lock unit.

(The thicker wires are the power supply make sure not to cut these)


Check with a multimeter to check you have the correct wires - the Yellow/Green (unlock switch) wire is connected to the Brown/Blue (ground wire) when a key is turned in the lock to unlock.

If this is OK then cut the Yellow/Green wire connected to pin 4, leaving enough to insulate both ends (heatshrink tubing or insulation tape).

http://www.btinternet.com/~a_hutton/cut_wiring/drivers2_5_seat_sml.gif

Put multiway plug in position on controller and push the latch up to secure.

Refit the other connectors and the door latch cable, refit door panel.


Passenger side

Passenger side is similar, but controller unit is different (part number : 1J2 959 801 D), and different pin numbers are used.


Pin 28 - Brown/Blue stripe wire - Ground to the lock unit.

Pin 3 - Yellow/Green stripe (or VW Golf - Violet/Green stripe) wire - Key unlock switch in lock unit


Check with multimeter this is the correct wire then cut the Yellow/Green wire connected to pin 3.

http://www.btinternet.com/~a_hutton/cut_wiring/pass2_5_seat_sml.gif

Word version of instructions (right click and save as) (http://www.btinternet.com/~a_hutton/cut_wiring/cut_wiring.doc)

Fl@pper
19-11-2004, 17:26
Can still lock normally from key lock.

Also can still unlock mechanically with the key, but does not activate central un-locking (and eliminates the other problem),


may be missing the poiint here but with the main issue i have with doing that is to basically disconnect the manual activated central locking for all doors

not aware of the in/outs of the latest security issue but the one that i AM aware of and have been since 2 weeks after launch of the car - the above will not stop at all

andy_tech
19-11-2004, 18:41
Without going into too much detail. The main point of doing this is to disable the electric window comfort feature. It works well, and also has been tried and works on the VW Golf.

If you regularly use the key in the lock then it is probably not a good idea, but if like me you always use the remote then it works OK.

It is not as good as fitting the blanking plates instead of the locks in terms of security, but is a compromise, allowing you to get in when remote fails.

If the key is used in the drivers door - that door will mechanically unlock (the central unlocking is not activated so the others will not unlock), but the alarm stays armed, so if the door is opened the alarm goes off (although can switch it off quickly by turning the correct key in the ignition).

Doing it aswell as the delocking blanking plates further increases the security - eg. if the blanking plate is forcefully levered out.

sportbilly
06-12-2004, 22:53
My Leon was de-locked by a dealer and 2 wires were cut aswell as de-locking so they must have taken this into account also - not that I see it making any difference if there is no lock :confused:

Deeko
07-12-2004, 09:09
My Leon was de-locked by a dealer and 2 wires were cut aswell as de-locking so they must have taken this into account also - not that I see it making any difference if there is no lock :confused:

Neg....did the dealer do anything with fuse 38? I've been going to delock for ages but haven't got round to it...(plus I've lost my cap somewhere!).

sportbilly
07-12-2004, 09:31
Nothing with the fuse, will relocate myself *one day*

magic77
08-12-2004, 07:54
i would relocate sooner than later if it blows you will not be able to get to it withouth hacking the dash apart

Icecavern
08-12-2004, 10:18
Personally rater than cut the wire I'd remove it from the connector ( fidly but with a watchmaker screwdriver possible without damage ) and then tape it up, then going back to standard is a simple job. I think I'll be trying this too.

Pete

sportbilly
09-12-2004, 00:27
Would you want it back to standard though ...... who use's keys nowadays and if if de-locked the function has no use.

Icecavern
09-12-2004, 08:36
Cutting wires isn't a good idea. Especially if you have a fault in the electrics. Clip the wires back in and your back to standard ;)

Pete