View Full Version : *NEW* Brembo fitment DS2500 Ferrodo pads, NOT to be confused with lesser DS pads
ibizacupra
29-11-2004, 22:37
Not to be confused with some people advertising DS series pads which are regular pads, and not the Higher spec, higher performing DS2500 pads, or DS3000 series pads.
Something new to try..
Used them myself on Wilwoods and they do work pretty well on track use.. with good cold braking also.
Now for Brembo fitment..
An alternative to stock or Carbon Metallic pads..
No wear sensors..
Price £96 +vat per set.. which is more like it.
For those with 312mm BRakes - DS2500's - £118 +vat per set
For those with 280mm Brakes - £76+vat perset
NOTE: (added 8.9.08) These pads "exceed" Reg90 friction coefficient of road OE pads, and are classed are Race Pads. They perform way higher by definition that they exceed the reg90 +/-15% of std coefficient. This is why they are "upgrade pads" and whay so many people like them and there braking ability. They are superb brake pads. Other than the packaging there is nothing so denote them from any other pad, other than they work really well :)
:thumbup:
Bill
Icecavern
29-11-2004, 22:44
Is this for the LCR Bill? I need some according to the dealer :(
Pete
CupraR-Rog
29-11-2004, 23:49
How do these compare to the CM's?
Importantly, what's the dust and disk wear like with these?
Dormouse
30-11-2004, 02:30
Dust and Wear goes second fiddle to stopping.
Of the top of the noggin expect less wear and more deposit than a CF.
Sensible(er) price though.
Dor.
Pete, with these not having wear sensors, I'd say the were for the Ibiza ;)
Seem a pretty good price to me though.
I'm guessing that these would be somewhat of an overkill for normal road driving !! ;)
W00T!!! :worship:
Ive got ds2500 on my 312mm brakes and they are fiercely powerful. and i was unable to fade them.
also thats a really good price considering the best youll get the ones for Leon cupra /312mm brake fitments will be about 95 squid
ibizacupra
30-11-2004, 08:16
These are listed for Brembo calipers so are'nt specific Leon nor Ibiza. just Brembo.
I would say DS2500's dust less than CM's do.. less carbon content, more metallic content.
Just considering options for you guys as not everyone is getting th elife I would expect (and got myself) out of the CM pads.. Price is favourable also.. which also helps. :)
You wont find many performance pads which come with wear sensors.. and the reliability of the wear sensors is dubious.. as people have seen. (metal to metal and still no sensor warning!)
regards
bill
Icecavern
30-11-2004, 08:43
I don't care about wear sensors, if the light comes on it's too late... As long as disconnecting that doesn't show a fault ( and I assume it doesn't )
The question still is though will these fit the LCR bremo calipers? And will they squeel like the CM's?
Pete
sjtscott
30-11-2004, 10:12
W00T!!! :worship:
Ive got ds2500 on my 312mm brakes and they are fiercely powerful. and i was unable to fade them.
also thats a really good price considering the best youll get the ones for Leon cupra /312mm brake fitments will be about 95 squid
Think I'm tempted to get some of these for my Cupra, Colin where can I get hold of them??
Or Bill can you get hold of these for std Leon Cupra 312mm brake system?
ibizacupra
30-11-2004, 11:57
I don't care about wear sensors, if the light comes on it's too late... As long as disconnecting that doesn't show a fault ( and I assume it doesn't )
The question still is though will these fit the LCR bremo calipers? And will they squeel like the CM's?
Pete
they will fit LCR calipers yes... same pad shape as Ibiza Brembo caliper, GT calipers. 0592 fitment
Do they squeal? don't know on Brembo calipers..
NeoVR... do they squeal for you?
Bill
Dormouse
30-11-2004, 13:51
So these have got MORE metal content than a CF pad? Scarey Weary on the Discs surely?????
Dor.
They only squeel when very very hot and they start to fade (unlikely)
for the 312mm fitments Demon tweeks can supply and deliver :)
So these have got MORE metal content than a CF pad? Scarey Weary on the Discs surely?????
Dor.
Ive done 20k on mine and discs are fine (little warped but i did that when i first put them on) pads are fine too :)
Think I'm tempted to get some of these for my Cupra, Colin where can I get hold of them??
Or Bill can you get hold of these for std Leon Cupra 312mm brake system?
id be interested in these too
Dormouse
30-11-2004, 16:16
Ive done 20k on mine and discs are fine (little warped but i did that when i first put them on) pads are fine too :)
Hmmm, interesting.
something to consider then....
Dor.
This includes two trackdays.. and has outlasted 2 changes of fluid :roflmao:
Some of the better known hardcore briskodians (TaviaRS, Ffelan, ColinD) swear by them :)
I don't care about wear sensors, if the light comes on it's too late... As long as disconnecting that doesn't show a fault ( and I assume it doesn't )
The question still is though will these fit the LCR bremo calipers? And will they squeel like the CM's?
Pete
PETE.............
cut wear sensor off old pad (cut @ pad end) join 2 wires together,and leave in multiplug,this stops
1 water ingress as it is fully shrouded
2 keeps the light from coming on,in dash
wear sensors on the lcr's are utter bollox and rarley work :D
vern
I run 2500's on the pasty wagon all year, several trackdays, ring trip, and 10 sprints, still got half of pad left, fantastic pads IMO
Cheers
Rob
ibizacupra
01-12-2004, 11:18
So these have got MORE metal content than a CF pad? Scarey Weary on the Discs surely?????
Dor.
surprisingly not on the willwoods i ran, and RobT's seem ever lasting..
CupraR-Rog
01-12-2004, 12:18
What about sparks though Bill? I quite like the firework show I get from the CM's, even under light braking in the dark [B)]
What about sparks though Bill? I quite like the firework show I get from the CM's, even under light braking in the dark [B)]
Ah, so I'm not the only one that gets sparks from the Carbon Metalics?
Last time I mentioned it everyone looked at me strange and said that they had never heard of that with the CMs! :hide:
Ben
CupraR-Rog
01-12-2004, 12:25
2nd set of pads, with new disks this time as well... and the firework show is as good as ever!! :D
Like I say, pretty funky when braking in the dark... not that I can see them myself when I'm driving :(
:idea: Maybe I could mount a "reversing camera" or something on the side of my car so I can watch the sparks!! :idea:
Nick Cupra R
01-12-2004, 13:02
Well I am now on my second set of the Performance Friction Carbon Metallic pads (01 compound). The original set lasted a lot longer than initially expected! I can't remember exactly when I put them on my car but it must have been about 10k miles they lasted.
It just goes to show that when a garage says "You really need to get new pads" that they are in fact only really half worn! I got a lot of very hard miles out of mine which included 24 laps of the ‘ring as well as some other track days. Very impressed with them and more importantly never had them fail to provide adequate braking at all!
Bill, how would you compare these Ferrodo pads with the Performance Friction CMs? I'm happy with 10k miles out of the CMs to be honest (and I have VERY heavy feet and give my brakes a hell of a lot of stick on track – 4k Miles out of the Ibiza Cupra R pads goes to show this!). I wouldn’t mind converting to the Ferrodo’s if it meant that they worked better (especially at the much cheaper price) but now I am used to the Carbon Metallic pads I don’t want to go backwards in performance! Even if it is quite a big saving. Might go for the 97 compound CM’s next time as they should last a bit longer…
Dormouse
01-12-2004, 13:07
Hmmm, seems like a genuinely good products. I think i'll give these a shot next pad change :)
Dor.
Ruddmeister
01-12-2004, 13:09
Bill, how would you compare these Pagid pads with the Performance Friction CMs? …
Are there Pagid's or did you mean Ferrodo's :confused:
Nick Cupra R
01-12-2004, 13:13
Are there Pagid's or did you mean Ferrodo's :confused:
D'oh! :doh:
Late night last night and early morning... that's my excuse, trying to multi-task between cupranet and work... obviously not working too well :rolleyes:
Cheers for pointing out my mistake :p
sportbilly
01-12-2004, 15:15
Wonder if these will last longer than the OEM one's - looks like I might need mine changing again at the next service ! That must almost double the service costs ...
ibizacupra
01-12-2004, 15:20
Well I am now on my second set of the Performance Friction Carbon Metallic pads (01 compound). The original set lasted a lot longer than initially expected! I can't remember exactly when I put them on my car but it must have been about 10k miles they lasted.
It just goes to show that when a garage says "You really need to get new pads" that they are in fact only really half worn! I got a lot of very hard miles out of mine which included 24 laps of the ‘ring as well as some other track days. Very impressed with them and more importantly never had them fail to provide adequate braking at all!
Bill, how would you compare these Ferrodo pads with the Performance Friction CMs? I'm happy with 10k miles out of the CMs to be honest (and I have VERY heavy feet and give my brakes a hell of a lot of stick on track – 4k Miles out of the Ibiza Cupra R pads goes to show this!). I wouldn’t mind converting to the Ferrodo’s if it meant that they worked better (especially at the much cheaper price) but now I am used to the Carbon Metallic pads I don’t want to go backwards in performance! Even if it is quite a big saving. Might go for the 97 compound CM’s next time as they should last a bit longer…
Difficult one this pad wear as I get reports from both extreme's...... poor wear and good wear (as myself had when I first used em)
DS2500's have lasted well also for me on track use on Wilwoods.. although I did'nt like Wilwoods personally(:p RobT will smile at this)
Disk wear was'nt anything I worried about.. not oh my god worn at all, after many laps at badger warp speed. Never faded them, but did warp disks (as I do on every disk except the current Race AP setup I'm running.. boil the brakes instead now! :rolleyes: )
I would think they're worth a go... as an alternative to the CM pads (which I have supplied in (97) and (01) compounds. Value wise there's no comparison, and performance would seem to be pretty good also. Certainly a viable alternative in braking performance terms...
Myself I'm currently running (01) Cm pads in my AP's but will try some DS2500's on there next, or perhaps some DS3000's :thumbup:
Nick Cupra R
01-12-2004, 15:40
You have convinced me to have a look at these as an alternative for my next set of pads purely on the fact they are a good £70 cheaper than the CM pads (I have no problems with the CM's at all other than the fact they are pretty expensive). Hopefully I wont need new pads now till next Summer but you never know...
Never faded them, but did warp disks (as I do on every disk except the current Race AP setup I'm running.. boil the brakes instead now! :rolleyes: )
surely time for airbrakes now bill :think: :p
ibizacupra
01-12-2004, 16:42
Parachute...
I had these pads on my Civic, they rock! :)
Parachute...
CF F1 jobies :)
Dormouse
01-12-2004, 19:00
Parachute...
NAH....Reverse thrust is a winner i recon.... :idea:
Dor.
ibizacupra
02-12-2004, 08:49
I cant fade my CM pads even on slicks... so they are superb stoppers and do last for me.. (considering the abuse they get on track)
I do however pump enough heat into them to boil the fluid tho.. (fix one thing, find another weakness. AP551 fluid boiled on me. now trying 76 Race Fluid off Supercopas)
sportbilly
07-12-2004, 09:19
Very very tempted with these pads but worried about warping the discs. I must use my brakes quite as I get through a set every 10k - my two reasons for swapping would be better stopping (I hate the way the OEM's fade) and better wearing. I liked the sound off the CF's but the price is quote high - now Ferrodo's ....
Bill if I wanted some do you have these in stock ?
ibizacupra
07-12-2004, 13:36
Bill if I wanted some do you have these in stock ?
Nearly..
on their way to me now..
:thumbup:
Paul TDI
09-12-2004, 21:46
I had the DS2500's on my old Focus. Far superior compound and build quality (in my opinion) to the EBC Greenstuff (of which 2 out of 2 sets failed/fell apart! - well one set cracked badly and I had to replace them after 4000 miles, and the second set had the rear clip on one of the pads just literally fall off as i took it out of its box to fit), and slightly better than the Mintex 1144's that I also had at one point.
When it comes to changing the pads on this car, if there are 2500's available, then they are what i'm fitting.
ibizacupra
09-12-2004, 21:51
I have only had bad experiences of EBC Greens.... so I avoid like the plague now.
I use my brakes hard, but two brands have failed on me badly over the years..
EBC Green and Tarrox.. neither I have any time for these days.. Nasty.. Ewww.
sportbilly
09-12-2004, 22:46
Umm, Cars in for a service Monday - assuming they want to replace the brakes (again) I will tell them not too if I can wangle a set of these instead.
Bill what compound metallics did I have? 01 or 97? whats the difference.
P.S. have you sent the ferrodos my way yet?
Nick Cupra R
14-12-2004, 17:37
Bill what compound metallics did I have? 01 or 97? whats the difference.
P.S. have you sent the ferrodos my way yet?
To Quote from the Performance Friction Website (http://www.performancefriction.com/pages/compounds.htm):
Second Generation Performance Friction Compounds
Developed to provide the same unrivalled stopping power of previous compounds but with reduced pad and disc wear and improved controllability. These compounds are extremely versatile and suitable for all forms of motor racing, from GTs to single seater to rallying.
97 Compound
This compound was designed as an all-purpose pad where excellent controllability was a priority over ultimate stopping power. Due to its excellent modulation characteristics, this pad has proved very popular with race schools, rallying, and as a rear pad for applications such as touring cars. 97 has the lowest wear of all compounds, typically providing two to three times more life expectancy than competitors. This compound can also dramatically extend disc life.
97 is a medium torque race compound and as a result can provide reduced brake temperatures in situations where poor cooling can result in premature disc failure. 97 has the flattest torque curve of all the Performance Friction compounds. Effective from 167°F and reach 2000°F (75°C, reach 1100°C), 97 uses Performance Friction’s unique lubrication package that maintains a minimal transfer layer on the disc to help prevent brake judder and provide excellent release properties, therefore reducing overall drag in the brake system. 97 is extremely easy on the discs with very low wear.
97 is now being used in Bondurant, Derek Daley, Dale Jarrett Driving Adventure, Panoz, Mid Ohio, and Jim Russell racing schools because of it's long wear vs. performance vs. control and modulation.
01 Compound
Released in 2001,this compound has increased initial bite and improved modulation. The friction level has been increased for the first two-thirds of the braking event, with flatter torque curve and more linear friction curve compared to 83 and 93. This allows the driver to attack the brake pedal later, reducing the time spent on the brakes. Very smooth release will not over-slow the car, and won't overwhelm the car's set-up.
Like 97 compound, 01 has excellent modulation characteristics that improve controllability and driver confidence. 01 uses Performance Friction’s unique lubrication package that maintains a minimal transfer layer on the disc to help prevent brake judder and provide excellent release properties, therefore reducing overall drag in the brake system. 01 is extremely easy on the discs with very low wear. Effective from 167°F and reach 2000°F (75°C , reach 1100°C), optimum operating range is between 860°F and 1004°F (460°C and 540°C).
Out of interest, does the 97 compound offer any benefits over 01 compound?
Who has tried both (Nick has I think)? Are they noticably different?
Ben
Nick Cupra R
15-12-2004, 13:23
I haven't actually tried both but I am tempted but he 97 compound after my current (2nd set) of 01 compund pads wear out.
I believe the difference to be not that noticable from speaking directly with Performance Friction, Bill and various people who run the pads on race cars. I think the 97 compound is just a little more practical, it performs pretty much the same as the 01 but will last longer amongst some other different properties. I think I am going to try these next anyway!
Well I'm on the 97's now. They seem very good, but I've not had the opertunity to try them hard yet. Mallory was too wet for any serious abuse.
The 97's certainly need warming up a little before they start working, but its no big deal (Unless someone decides to jump out infront of me in the first 2 minutes after I set off!).
Ben
Nick Cupra R
15-12-2004, 13:59
Same goes for the 01 compound (which is harsher than 97) not much warming up required though, just the first couple of stops with them when leaving the house are not so effective.
I can imagine for the likes of us (not professional race drivers) there is very little difference between the two compounds in performance. They sell for the same price as well. It just looks like the 97 pads last longer from what I have read. I am getting 10k out of my 01.
I have to admit I am tempted by the Ferrodo pads though at that price, quite a bit cheaper than the PF ones!
Just fitted my ferrodo pads. :thumbup: cheers bill. didnt like how difficult it is to get the mess the carbon metallics leave behind off :thumbd: .possibly due to not getting them up to temp or just normal :confused: . going out for trial run now fingers crossed they wont glue the pad dust to the wheel like the metallics do. Is there a heavy duty wheel cleaner out?
lets go have some fun :thumbup: :)
Dormouse
16-12-2004, 22:16
Just fitted my ferrodo pads. :thumbup: cheers bill. didnt like how difficult it is to get the mess the carbon metallics leave behind off :thumbd: .possibly due to not getting them up to temp or just normal :confused: . going out for trial run now fingers crossed they wont glue the pad dust to the wheel like the metallics do. Is there a heavy duty wheel cleaner out?
lets go have some fun :thumbup: :)
might have even welded it to the wheels. I wish you luck :blink:
Dor.
Just fitted my ferrodo pads. :thumbup: cheers bill. didnt like how difficult it is to get the mess the carbon metallics leave behind off :thumbd: .possibly due to not getting them up to temp or just normal :confused: . going out for trial run now fingers crossed they wont glue the pad dust to the wheel like the metallics do. Is there a heavy duty wheel cleaner out?
lets go have some fun :thumbup: :)
Youll find that MC2 gets DS2500 dust off very easily.. i find they are middle of the road between OE pads and Pagid FR pads as far as dust is concerned.. not bad at all considering the braking ability
:)
the man from delmonty say yes :D
ok bit to early to tell really but they seem good so far.
will have to wait a day or so for pad dust to show itself.
need to change the brake fluid now ne one done it on an lcr before?
CupraR-Rog
17-12-2004, 04:46
Youll find that MC2 gets DS2500 dust off very easily.. i find they are middle of the road between OE pads and Pagid FR pads as far as dust is concerned.. not bad at all considering the braking ability
:)
Unfortunately I'm having more luck getting hold of rocking horse manure than MC2, despite e-mailing Mark Underwood on a regular basis... been trying for a couple of months now!!
...so ANY wheel cleaner would be better right now than the fairy dust... I mean MC2...
sportbilly
17-12-2004, 11:15
Maybe I should keep mine then ifs it rare now !
gingerbeard
17-12-2004, 11:22
http://www.performanceparts4u.co.uk/special_offers.asp
i got my mc2 from here. seem to still have it on their website :thumbup:
Dormouse
17-12-2004, 14:05
Unfortunately I'm having more luck getting hold of rocking horse manure than MC2, despite e-mailing Mark Underwood on a regular basis... been trying for a couple of months now!!
...so ANY wheel cleaner would be better right now than the fairy dust... I mean MC2...
Havn't you got any tins of elbow grease in stock? :roflmao:
Dor.
rog did you know that under the paint of our wheels is a nice layer of plastic?
CupraR-Rog
18-12-2004, 18:09
Plastic layer on the last set of wheels I stripped was a good couple of mm thick as well... doesn't look so thick on the R wheels though...
And Dor - to clean off the CM brake dust, it normally takes me a day per wheel, with a bottle of Wonder Wheels per wheel as well, scrubbing them with a tooth brush, and even then I can't get it all off!! So elbow grease?? :roflmao: :roflmao:
CupraR-Rog
18-12-2004, 18:13
http://www.performanceparts4u.co.uk/special_offers.asp
i got my mc2 from here. seem to still have it on their website :thumbup:
2 days running when I click on "add to basket" I get the old "webpage not found" error message :( Maybe I'll give them a call on Monday instead :idea:
This stuff had better work now!!
Dormouse
19-12-2004, 04:00
Plastic layer on the last set of wheels I stripped was a good couple of mm thick as well... doesn't look so thick on the R wheels though...
And Dor - to clean off the CM brake dust, it normally takes me a day per wheel, with a bottle of Wonder Wheels per wheel as well, scrubbing them with a tooth brush, and even then I can't get it all off!! So elbow grease?? :roflmao: :roflmao:
Your keen, I'll give you that much! And you'll save on wheel dentist fees in the future :clap:
Dor.
CupraR-Rog
19-12-2004, 11:46
Your keen, I'll give you that much! And you'll save on wheel dentist fees in the future :clap:
Dor.
I had always wondered whether an electric tooth brush would help matters along a bit... ;)
ibizacupra
19-12-2004, 17:49
Plastic layer on the last set of wheels I stripped was a good couple of mm thick as well... doesn't look so thick on the R wheels though...
And Dor - to clean off the CM brake dust, it normally takes me a day per wheel, with a bottle of Wonder Wheels per wheel as well, scrubbing them with a tooth brush, and even then I can't get it all off!! So elbow grease?? :roflmao: :roflmao:
you neglect to mention they have'nt been washed for 1000's of miles/months...
any brake pad will cake wheels over that period.. LOL
;)
CupraR-Rog
19-12-2004, 19:09
Ha ha ha!! I actually got most of the dust from the summer off the wheels Bill!! This is a "normal" week or 2's worth of dirt I'm talking about now... although sometimes doing 1k+ / week even at this time of year doesn't help!!
Don't get me wrong, I love the stopping power of the CM's!! But the dust...
Ordered some MC2 now though!! :D Hope it does the job...
you neglect to mention they have'nt been washed for 1000's of miles/months...
any brake pad will cake wheels over that period.. LOL
;)
I wash mine twice a week and it was hard to get it off hten left iit a whole week cos i was busy now i cant get it off! maybe something to do with the pads always being cold.
the strange thing is the stuff actually feels sticky to the touch
the ferodos seem great though at the mo id say they are better dust wise than the standards
Ha ha ha!! I actually got most of the dust from the summer off the wheels Bill!! This is a "normal" week or 2's worth of dirt I'm talking about now... although sometimes doing 1k+ / week even at this time of year doesn't help!!
Don't get me wrong, I love the stopping power of the CM's!! But the dust...
Ordered some MC2 now though!! :D Hope it does the job...
can i borrow some if it works? :whistle:
CupraR-Rog
20-12-2004, 00:46
can i borrow some if it works? :whistle:
Depends if I've any left!! Only went for the 5 litre bottle (£25 was all I could find behind the sofa!), so if I go through it like I do wonderwheels, that'll be my 5 wheels scrubbed clean...
Dormouse
20-12-2004, 05:04
I bough a 2 litre bottle of some no-name wheel cleaner in a pound shop the other day. Works quite well....sorry.
Dor wonders if it all isn't the same stuff anyway :hide:
Dor.
CupraR-Rog
20-12-2004, 08:49
I hope it all isn't the same stuff!! MC2 was £30 including postage... OK works out cheaper than Wonder Wheels for 5 litres worth, but 5 litres is a lot to fugure out how to use if it doesn't do the job...
...if it does do the job though, I can see a 25 litre barrel coming my way...
Dormouse
20-12-2004, 09:10
I hope it all isn't the same stuff!! MC2 was £30 including postage... OK works out cheaper than Wonder Wheels for 5 litres worth, but 5 litres is a lot to fugure out how to use if it doesn't do the job...
...if it does do the job though, I can see a 25 litre barrel coming my way...
You could operate a dunkin' alloys service :idea:
Dor.
P.S. How long you leave the cleaning agent on the wheels to soak in b4b cleaning?
tom.everett
06-01-2005, 15:02
Bill, have you got these in stock at the moment??
Brake Disk light came on last night?!? Doh...
ibizacupra
06-01-2005, 15:13
Bill, have you got these in stock at the moment??
Brake Disk light came on last night?!? Doh...
due any day to me..
only have CM pads in stock currently.
tom.everett
06-01-2005, 15:20
due any day to me..
Do you think I have time to wait, or do I need to get some quicker, seeing as the light is on??
ibizacupra
06-01-2005, 15:28
Do you think I have time to wait, or do I need to get some quicker, seeing as the light is on??
difficult one to answer...
no metal squealing noises yet.. if not you have a small amount of time depending on usage and milage I would think.
mine were grinding before the light came on. mind you I was standing on the brakes at around 130-140 on aprivate road by me
Icecavern
07-01-2005, 08:30
Bill as soon as you get some in let us know. I need a set off you too.
Pete
ibizacupra
07-01-2005, 10:04
They're due to me next weds.. (checked with supplier last night)
CupraR-Rog
08-01-2005, 02:51
Make sure my name's on a set sir!! Chief Pad Tester needs a go!!! :bleh:
7 - 8k from the cm's this time... and I thought I was being gentle with them!! :-o Maybe they don't like gentle braking...
[QUOTE=CupraR-Rog]and I thought I was being gentle with them!! :-o QUOTE]
yeah right o
CupraR-Rog
08-01-2005, 04:03
:whistle:
gentle for you means not pushing up on the roof of the car when standing on the brakes @ 150mph to get that little extra braking pressure
Nick Cupra R
08-01-2005, 14:38
Are you sure you are using the pads till the end of their life?? I managed to get quite a few more miles out of my first set than that (unfortunately I can't remember exactly how many miles, but it was over 10k) and any will tell you I don't take it easy!
Are you sure you are using the pads till the end of their life?? I managed to get quite a few more miles out of my first set than that (unfortunately I can't remember exactly how many miles, but it was over 10k) and any will tell you I don't take it easy!
there was about 2mm left on mine
CupraR-Rog
09-01-2005, 11:59
Are you sure you are using the pads till the end of their life?? I managed to get quite a few more miles out of my first set than that (unfortunately I can't remember exactly how many miles, but it was over 10k) and any will tell you I don't take it easy!
Well, as my texts to Bill normally say "Bill, I need new pads YESTERDAY as they're starting to grind..."
barely 1mm on them when I take them off... well and truelu "used"
If possible, can I stick my name on a set please Bill - I've about 2mm left, if I'm being optimistic!
ibizacupra
09-01-2005, 12:29
3 sets on their way so it will be first come first served until the next batch arrive folks..
you boys certainly consume your pads!!! Blimey!
(even more than I do)
CupraR-Rog
09-01-2005, 12:50
Bill, you know I NEED a set!!! Credit card dtails ready... when you answer your phone!!!
ibizacupra
09-01-2005, 13:59
lol.. it was in another room..
sorted now to Rog...
2 sets available now folks
Icecavern
09-01-2005, 14:16
Bill mark me down on a set, I'll call you in the morning with my card details ect ;)
Pete
ibizacupra
09-01-2005, 15:25
ok.
one set available...
placing more on order tomorrow... will have to check on delivery.
Bill - I'll take that last set please; will also call you in the morning with card details (don't want to disturb your Sunday evening ;) )
tom.everett
09-01-2005, 20:36
So are they all gone??!..
Am I going to have to go somewhere else for them now?? :(
ibizacupra
09-01-2005, 21:10
So are they all gone??!..
Am I going to have to go somewhere else for them now?? :(
er no. you were first Tom.. PhilD you're next and will be the next delivery.
any more folks? so I dont short order the next batch?
tom.everett
09-01-2005, 21:51
Thanks, I do appreciate it. Started to panic then!
Want me to call you to pay now, or you going to call me?
Thanks.
ibizacupra
09-01-2005, 22:20
pm sent m8
ibizacupra
10-01-2005, 18:47
4 sets coming to me in the next day or so.
ALSO MK4 Golf rear pads in DS2500 compound. - £59.20+vat
regards
bill
ibizacupra
11-01-2005, 15:35
FAO PhilD, PM sent to you chap :)
What do you make of the ferodo's
your old pads(if you can call them that) must be one of the worst I ve seen- down to the metal in some parts and a nice grove coming in the backing plate caused by lips bigger than mick jaggers. i suspect a few more hundred miles would have seen the backing plate split in 2
Icecavern
13-01-2005, 08:32
Got the Pads Bill. Hopefully try fitting them this weekend. :thumbup:
Got the Pads Bill. Hopefully try fitting them this weekend. :thumbup:
Ditto.
CupraR-Rog
13-01-2005, 10:24
1st impressions are that they're good... more pedal travel than the CM's though, and possibly less initial bite... but they still pull the car up sharpish!!
Will probably give them some stick on a drive this weekend... don't think the car will be moving much to bed them in further today!!
Maybe you shold place an order for new pads now rog???
CupraR-Rog
13-01-2005, 15:30
Good idea... think Bill said he's got some more coming in stock... :thumbup:
I have a some part worn CM's interested in them for a reduction on my next pads bill :whistle:
ibizacupra
16-01-2005, 12:42
you may have a customer in Rog... with his consumption of pads... :)
CupraR-Rog
16-01-2005, 13:26
you may have a customer in Rog... with his consumption of pads... :)
Called "Consumer Research" mate - seeing which pads are Rog-proof ;)
Well, someone's got to do it :whistle:
you may have a customer in Rog... with his consumption of pads... :)
dont think ill get him to buy CM's again
Ditto.
Got them fitted this afternoon, and went for a bedding-in test drive. As such, I haven't hammered them really hard yet, but first impressions are pretty good - certainly feel better than than the OE Brembo's. On later, higher-speed stops, they felt quite progressive, coming in quite gently at first, and then biting like a b*stard - certainly kept the ABS busy, on a slightly damp surface ;)
I can't wait until they're fully bedded in, and I can start giving them some real stick; could be a case of whiplash coming up.
Overall impression so far: :thumbup:
ibizacupra
17-01-2005, 11:40
Got some rear DS2500's coming in this week sometime so maybe some rears of the same bite will keep a balance..
Got some rear DS2500's coming in this week sometime so maybe some rears of the same bite will keep a balance..
how much for them bill and how much for the OE ones?
ibizacupra
17-01-2005, 13:59
how much for them bill and how much for the OE ones?
DS2500 rears are £59.20+vat.
I dont know the price for OE rears sorry
bill
1st impressions are that they're good... more pedal travel than the CM's though, and possibly less initial bite... but they still pull the car up sharpish!!
Will probably give them some stick on a drive this weekend... don't think the car will be moving much to bed them in further today!!
Any idea why theres more pedal travel?
ibizacupra
17-01-2005, 16:15
Any idea why theres more pedal travel?
I would suggest the fluid is bled out and replaced.. If the pad consumption is at this level, mucho heat has been absorbed into the fluid..
refresh it IMHO
CupraR-Rog
17-01-2005, 18:48
I would suggest the fluid is bled out and replaced.. If the pad consumption is at this level, mucho heat has been absorbed into the fluid..
refresh it IMHO
You mean 7k from the cm's isn't normal? Couldn't've generated that much heat with that usage, surely?? :whistle:
Could just be they're not fully bedded in yet - they've probably only done 30 - 35 miles since fitting - the run home from Mat's, and 2 trips to the shops :whistle:, so they might improve once I start driving again...
ibizacupra
17-01-2005, 19:56
keep me posted then Rog..
CupraR-Rog
17-01-2005, 20:03
Yes sir!!!
Maybe I should change my sig to include "SCN Brake Pad Tester" :whistle:
ibizacupra
17-01-2005, 20:30
Lol
one thing to note... DS2500 will run hotter than normal OE pads, it shouldnt be that much of an issue with brembos..
i managed to kill a set of OE discs and boil a 2 week old fill of castrol super dot 4.1 on my 312s @ anglesey... the disks were almost glowing... and a nice shade of purple :redface:
I would suggest the fluid is bled out and replaced.. If the pad consumption is at this level, mucho heat has been absorbed into the fluid..
refresh it IMHO
Havent long had new fluid
Yes sir!!!
Maybe I should change my sig to include "SCN Brake Pad Tester" :whistle:
I notice youve made no report on the state of your discs rog with the lip on them if you filled them with water you could have a nice bird bath or paddling pool :whistle:
ibizacupra
18-01-2005, 10:13
one thing to note... DS2500 will run hotter than normal OE pads, it shouldnt be that much of an issue with brembos..
i managed to kill a set of OE discs and boil a 2 week old fill of castrol super dot 4.1 on my 312s @ anglesey... the disks were almost glowing... and a nice shade of purple :redface:
how much of that was pasty action round the track vs pads themselves..
much hotter when on track as you get to use them to the max.
Nick Cupra R
18-01-2005, 10:37
Has the Brembo logo on the calipers turned a sort of nicatine yellow yet? Mine went this colour months ago during a maximum pasty session at Donington :) I get a sort of blue oily tinge to my disks after every session at every track, maybe I push it pretty hard, but that's what they are there for :)
If you have a look at the below photo, this is my CM's at the end of their life after 6 months VERY HEAVY use and approximately 10k miles:
http://scn.game-host.org/~nick/Images/brakepadwear.jpg
Not bad considering the amount of track action they saw. As a comparison the stock Brembo Ibiza Cupra R pads (which are the same fitment as the Leon Cupra R) lasted me less than 4k miles.
I'm interested to know how these pads perform on track compared to the CM's, the amount of millage people get from pads will vary so much depending on what you have been up to, 100 miles around Donington is not quite the same amount of wear as 100 miles around the M25 ;)
CupraR-Rog
18-01-2005, 12:52
http://scn.game-host.org/~nick/Images/brakepadwear.jpg
Loads of material left there!! Both times I've changed my CM's, they've been down to the backing plate (and a little bit noisy...)
Nick Cupra R
18-01-2005, 13:09
I think you may be in need of new disks then Rog! The photo doesn't make the pad seem as bad as it actually is, the edges are crumbling away and they were making one hell of a noise when braking from motorway speeds (not even excessive motorway speeds at that!).
I think worn disks wear disks faster than new disks so it may well be worth swapping them out. The grooved disks I got from Bill are excellent hardly any wear so far and they seem to be doing a great job (not a huge difference from the standard ones, but I'm sure they help on track).
CupraR-Rog
18-01-2005, 13:17
Only changed my disks 7k ago!!
Much less of a lip on these ones though than my old ones... and the surface is still fine...
Nick Cupra R
18-01-2005, 14:01
Have you done many track days to get that much wear from your pads? Under normal driving conditions I would have thought the Carbon Metallics to last 20k miles or so!
You truely do go through pads like a nutter Rog, Have you changed your brake peddal for an on and off switch? ;)
CupraR-Rog
18-01-2005, 16:21
Track days?? Other than Brunty with Briskoda back last April when I ran the Mintex pads... nope, not a single track day on either set of CM pads :-o
And what do you mean "changed" my brake pedal for an on / off switch?? You mean yours isn't like that as standard :confused: :blink: :whistle:
Only changed my disks 7k ago!!
Much less of a lip on these ones though than my old ones... and the surface is still fine...
:-o
CupraR-Rog
19-01-2005, 01:10
:-o
Next time you're around my place, I'll dig my old ones out to show you!!
Personally I still think they're servicible, but a few people told me otherwise... :whistle: (not my dealer at the service though!)
Icecavern
19-01-2005, 08:39
Have you done many track days to get that much wear from your pads? Under normal driving conditions I would have thought the Carbon Metallics to last 20k miles or so!
You truely do go through pads like a nutter Rog, Have you changed your brake peddal for an on and off switch? ;)
Thing is the way Rog drives doesn't help. He drove my R up a DC and back when we went to combe. We didn't get above about 50mph because we were listening for the vibration I had. No hard braking either. Only when we got out ( About 1 mile of driving ) the car smelt like it'd just been round combe, brake and clutch smelt like a bugger. I just don't know how he did it :confused:
Next time you're around my place, I'll dig my old ones out to show you!!
Personally I still think they're servicible, but a few people told me otherwise... :whistle: (not my dealer at the service though!)
I should have kept my old discs and sold them to you
Nick Cupra R
19-01-2005, 10:24
Track days?? Other than Brunty with Briskoda back last April when I ran the Mintex pads... nope, not a single track day on either set of CM pads :-o
And what do you mean "changed" my brake pedal for an on / off switch?? You mean yours isn't like that as standard :confused: :blink: :whistle:
Yeah, I saw you at Brunty that time, that is when my Ibiza Cupra R pad died on me and I had to get the AA to tow me home!
I don't understand how you can go through Carbon Metallic pads like you do :confused: My set went around the Nurburgring 24 times giving it maximum pasty, they also lasted a VERY spirited trip to Le Mans and back on the country roads all the way there and back, plus Donington Park track day (ask anyone, I don't exactly brake early ;) ) also some driver training at Bruntingthorpe... and I still got about 10k out of them. And the majority of that was with my grooved disks which in theory wear disks faster.
Must be your driving style Rog :rolleyes: I thought I was bad for wearing pads but mainly on circuit, not through normal driving to and from work on the A14 as I don't exactly brake hard because you can guarantee someone not paying attention will plough into the back of you!
CupraR-Rog
19-01-2005, 11:55
Thing is the way Rog drives doesn't help. He drove my R up a DC and back when we went to combe. We didn't get above about 50mph because we were listening for the vibration I had. No hard braking either. Only when we got out ( About 1 mile of driving ) the car smelt like it'd just been round combe, brake and clutch smelt like a bugger. I just don't know how he did it :confused:
:redface: :redface: :redface: :whistle:
My car had an interesting smell to it at SO1 way back when as well... :whistle:
CupraR-Rog
19-01-2005, 11:58
Must be your driving style Rog :rolleyes: I thought I was bad for wearing pads but mainly on circuit, not through normal driving to and from work on the A14 as I don't exactly brake hard because you can guarantee someone not paying attention will plough into the back of you!
Maybe it's the Welsh hills?? :whistle:
Funny how we both had pad failure that day... didn't look good for the R's amongst the Skoda's that just kept going... :whistle:
A quick question, all the web sites I have found that talk about the DS2500s rave about how good they are on a track. I will be using them (if Bill has any left) 100% of the time on the road - would I be better off getting standard pads ? I am really after pads that will last and perform as well as (or better if possible) the standard ones but that don't cost as much.
Cheers
Bob
ibizacupra
25-01-2005, 10:48
they work well from cold i think and definately give better bite than OE pads.
one set left in stock I think... (rears also)
they work well from cold i think and definately give better bite than OE pads.
one set left in stock I think... (rears also)
Have sent you an email Bill.
Cheers,
Bob
bill do they do these pads for the normal cupra brakes? if so how much are they?
Nice service Bill :thumbup:
I phoned up Wednesday morning and the pads were delivered on Thursday :) Now I just have to fit them :blink:
Bob
bill do they do these pads for the normal cupra brakes? if so how much are they?
http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=49735
Quick question about bedding the pads in, the instructions given are for race use. What should I do when bedding the pads in for normal road use ?
Cheers
Bob
CupraR-Rog
29-01-2005, 10:18
The best interpretation of the race use instructions you can...
Recommend late night on a quiet dual carriage way so you don't cause an accident ;)
ibizacupra
31-01-2005, 08:40
Quick question about bedding the pads in, the instructions given are for race use. What should I do when bedding the pads in for normal road use ?
Cheers
Bob
Introduce a heat cycle progressively then allow to cool again..
bring speed up and braking effort up on a few stops (brings heat into system)
Other option is just use em normally and they will bed in, albeit slower. (you will see the dis surface become an even finish when they're bedded to the surface)
:thumbup:
get to about 150mph then stand on the middle pedal- with both feet :D
ibizacupra
01-02-2005, 08:15
get yo about 150mph then stand on the middle pedal- with both feet :D
:-o :roflmao: :hide:
Icecavern
01-02-2005, 08:25
Fitted mine on Sunday, easier than I thought. They work well from cold so no worries about road use, not sure if they are better/worse than the standards they do seem to bite better but I never know whether thats just because the pads are new or because they are better.
Cheers Bill
Pete
CupraR-Rog
01-02-2005, 20:36
I normally find new pads bite worse than old pads... even found that when I went from CM -> CM... so if your new ferrodo's feel better than the old Brembo... can only be a good thing!!!
My pads are bedded in nicely now, and although they've not endured any of my extreme driving yet... I've not had any problems with them, and they still do bite well once warmed up!! Maybe not quite as well as the CM's... but then I haven't noticed any brake dust either ;) (and yes, I do have some clean parts on my wheels to look at!! :whistle: )
Would these DS2500's really make a noticable difference for everyday driving with the odd fast road blast? Or they mainly for real fast road drivers?
Cheers
Owen
(Probably the winner of the daftest questions award!!)
CupraR-Rog
17-02-2005, 20:25
Will benefit whatever your driving mate ;)
(and yes, I do have some clean parts on my wheels to look at!! :whistle: )
where? under the dust caps?
CupraR-Rog
18-02-2005, 23:09
where? under the dust caps?
:bleh:
ibizacupra
24-03-2005, 18:02
Nicked from ukmkivs:-
Ref coding sensor warning for non wear sebnsor pads.. like DS2500's, Carbon Metallics, Ibiza-R's etc
"You just need to change the first 2 number in the software coding for your instrument cluster (subtract 01)then the cluster will not be looking for any input from the wiring to the pads"
Bill, whats the stock of these pads like?
also, if going for a fluid change, what do you reccomend? thinking of the odd trackday/general quickish road driving?
Thanks
Mark
ibizacupra
29-03-2005, 18:48
Bill, whats the stock of these pads like?
also, if going for a fluid change, what do you reccomend? thinking of the odd trackday/general quickish road driving?
Thanks
Mark
I have fresh stock in.. and a couple sets left as of today.
Fluid I had good service from previously was Castrol Super Dot 4 fluid...
I currently run 76 Racing brake fluid from Seat Sport (same as Supercopas run.. no probs so far but not been on track since)
Pads £88+vat the set
As you can imagine my pads took a battering at donny at the weekend, so although not desperate, they are fairly low. Going to go for a set of these as they seem a good step between stock and Carbon Metalics.
AS for the fluid, where am i likely to find "performance" fluids (ie the castrol) rather than average everyday fluid?
Thanks for the info :)
Mark
ibizacupra
29-03-2005, 21:21
I got my 76 fluid from SEAT Sport but you would need to speak to Castrol perhaps to find a local supplier of their Super Dot 4.. Castle Combes Merlin Motorsport had some as thats where I got mine and they do mail order.
Hellfrauds sells Castrol Super DOT4.
thanks for the heads up. will sort it out. :)
What compound are these pads? I dont want to use anything thats going to weck my alloys?
ibizacupra
18-12-2005, 13:16
What compound are these pads? I dont want to use anything thats going to weck my alloys?
They are DS2500 same as the thread title.
Motul RBF600 is the best fluid I have used to date, for the money.
Im intrested in a set of these pads got any in stock?
few question though how much dust do they give off compared to brembo ones?
do i have to have vag com with regards to coding sensor warning or just wire up the multi plug back onto itself?
how long will these last me at normal driving 99% of the time?odd blast here and there?
any squeal with them?
ibizacupra
14-05-2006, 21:20
In stock yes.
They dont think they dust badly, maybe someone one here using them can confirm what they think.
link out the wire is what I have been advising. (no need to vag-com and I dont know the code to code it out... if you can)
I cannot answer how long will they last.... no less than OE ones given the same driving. No squeal on MrsB's Lupo DS2500's. My DS3000's do squeal on light use but not heavy use.
regards
bill
CupraR-Rog
16-05-2006, 18:50
Much longer life than OE with normal driving was my experience...
OE pads - 12 - 14k miles with no track days...
DS2500's over 20k with 1 very, very hard track day, and they were still lasting!!
Right well after 24k miles the OE pads on the Brembos are in need of replacing.. Is that good for OE pads?? :think:
So...Bill do you have any stock of the DS2500's for an LCR Brembo kit (SEAT part no is 1ML698151 for the OE pads)
What price for a set of 4 Front pads and some copper Grease (think they skimped on this originally) and P&P to london.
And i dont suppose you can supply a 'Dry weekend' as well so i can fit them without sitting in a puddle. :hide:
Cheers
Buz
ibizacupra
24-08-2006, 21:25
Right well after 24k miles the OE pads on the Brembos are in need of replacing.. Is that good for OE pads?? :think:
So...Bill do you have any stock of the DS2500's for an LCR Brembo kit (SEAT part no is 1ML698151 for the OE pads)
What price for a set of 4 Front pads and some copper Grease (think they skimped on this originally) and P&P to london.
And i dont suppose you can supply a 'Dry weekend' as well so i can fit them without sitting in a puddle. :hide:
Cheers
Buz
£90+vat for DS2500's plus £9.50 carriage.
Copper grease from Halfords... not something I can send really.
regards
bill
Cheers Bill
I'll take a set of the DS2500's please....PM or ring you with the card details/address??
Halfrauds it is for the grease....hmmm havent been in there for a while
Thanks
Buz
ibizacupra
25-08-2006, 15:28
Cheers Bill
I'll take a set of the DS2500's please....PM or ring you with the card details/address??
Halfrauds it is for the grease....hmmm havent been in there for a while
Thanks
Buz
I am on 07976 800775 when your ready.
regards
bill
Thanks Bill,
Pads arrived on Thursday...easy pick up from the Mail Depot....literally round the corner.
Now if it will only stop raining on my days off i might be able to fit them :)
Buz
Whats the best deal i can get on these Bill?
Looking to buy today, is it cool just to phone up with Card details?
The car is a MK3 Ibiza Cupra R
Thanks.
ibizacupra
29-09-2006, 13:28
Whats the best deal i can get on these Bill?
Looking to buy today, is it cool just to phone up with Card details?
The car is a MK3 Ibiza Cupra R
Thanks.
Aye, I am on 07976 800775.
These are in stock currently in both brembo fitment and std ibiza cupra fitment (280mm disk)
kohmikey
24-10-2006, 09:47
Hi Bill,
How much for the mk4 ibiza cupra ferodo DS2500 pads and how long for delivery?
Thanks
Michael
ibizacupra
24-10-2006, 09:52
Presuming yours is AP/Seat_Sport calipers:-
Price is £86.91+vat {edited to correct price}
carriage is £9.50
delivery is pending supplier... but usually 3-4days
regards
bill
kohmikey
24-10-2006, 11:44
Yes they are the AP/Seat Sport calipers. So they are £25 plus VAT more expensive than the LCR Brembo fitment version. Is that right?
ibizacupra
24-10-2006, 12:03
I think so yes... need to confirm part number with supplier again.
Std 312mm caliper pads are >brembo ones also... but you need to also remember std pads are much thicker then brembo ones. (relatively thin)
AP/Seat_Sport are thicker pads than brembo.
how much are a pair of those ds2500 pads for mine bill
ibizacupra
24-10-2006, 12:29
For LCR they're £90+vat
(no wear sensors)
carriage is £9.50
regards
bill
excellent cheaper than i thought i will be in touch when the time comes
kohmikey
24-10-2006, 15:08
I think so yes... need to confirm part number with supplier again.
Std 312mm caliper pads are >brembo ones also... but you need to also remember std pads are much thicker then brembo ones. (relatively thin)
AP/Seat_Sport are thicker pads than brembo.
Thanks Bill,
Out of interest how much are the standard AP Pads (CP6600D55)?
ibizacupra
24-10-2006, 16:27
Thanks Bill,
Out of interest how much are the standard AP Pads (CP6600D55)?
Righto..
Price is £86.91+vat and the material would be DS2500.
AP dont make pads, but in this case its Ferodo in AP box and DS2500 material.
Carriage is £9.50 and they have them in stock
regards
bill
kohmikey
25-10-2006, 10:44
Righto..
Price is £86.91+vat and the material would be DS2500.
AP dont make pads, but in this case its Ferodo in AP box and DS2500 material.
Carriage is £9.50 and they have them in stock
regards
bill
That's cool as it is about what i was expecting to pay. I will give you a call when i need them.
So if i had asked for standard pads, as AP don't do pads, i would have got the DS2500 branded as AP anyway?
ibizacupra
25-10-2006, 11:14
yep, I think so.
previous ones I have bought for SEAT Sport AP's are boxed (stickered AP) on a Ferodo box containing DS2500's
You can go to the stealer and get theirs in the VAG box but I dont know what they're going to be.
ibizacupra
24-11-2006, 17:10
UPDATE- Ferodo Price increase from November 1st.
DS2500's for LCR now £93+vat a set
regards
bill
How much for a front set for standard 280mm discs on a Mk2 Ibiza 2.0 16v?
Cheers.
Bill,
Looking for a set of LCR DS2500 pads... do you have any stock and whats the current going rate?
Are you able to post out before xmas?
Cheers
Buz
ibizacupra
19-12-2007, 08:24
£93+vat and in stock
carriage (courier) is £9.50+vat
I can send them before xmas.... but its mighty close chap!
carlisle pete
07-02-2008, 16:54
hil bill im looking for a set of ferrodo ds2500 for my ibiza cupra. think its got the gt junior kit on it?
need price asap please as needs a full service to sell on.
cheers
pete
Hi Bill,
Are these available for the rear calipers of Mk3 Ibiza Cupra?
ibizacupra
14-02-2009, 18:13
yes but dont bother. ds2500's are available as a fitment but they dont make them as thick as oe ones, so you get 1/2 a pad you would otherwise get AND ds2500's on rear is not req'd on ibiza.
I race mine on std rear pagids, which is what I advise for you also.. £35+vat for those
regards
bill
RichRiley
27-02-2009, 22:53
Hi Bill, was after some Ferodo DS2500's pads for the front of my LCR, what's your current price and delivery (UK)?
Thanks,
Rich
ibizacupra
28-02-2009, 14:57
£96 pads, £9.50 delivery, plus vat
regards
Hi Bill are these DS2500 for the street performance or Track pads? Could you kindly give me a quote delivered. Thanks.
ibizacupra
29-04-2009, 19:41
Hi Bill are these DS2500 for the street performance or Track pads? Could you kindly give me a quote delivered. Thanks.
ds2500's are £96+vat
DS3000's are typically £10-£15 more, but I will check this and confirm
CupraElliott
13-07-2009, 23:05
Bill, will these pads fit these?
http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=562_563_577&products_id=4016
ibizacupra
14-07-2009, 08:04
Bill, will these pads fit these?
http://www.rallydesign.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=562_563_577&products_id=4016
no you have posted a link to wilwoods which are not the same at all
There are DS2500's available, but I would need to check part numbers..
I have used their poly E/D and thought that pad material was awefull.
Which calipers do you have? (superlights/superlight4/midilights??)
AlexGSi2000
14-07-2009, 20:54
Can vouch for these pads, im very impressed.
Yet to give them proper abuse as I only fitted them today, but they are so much better than the standard brembo pads!
CupraElliott
14-07-2009, 21:01
no you have posted a link to wilwoods which are not the same at all
There are DS2500's available, but I would need to check part numbers..
I have used their poly E/D and thought that pad material was awefull.
Which calipers do you have? (superlights/superlight4/midilights??)
Well if them in that link will fit the Ibiza I will be going for them. So the calipers will be Superlite 4 pots.
Hi Bill.
I need brakes all round on my mk3 ibiza cupra.
Im running KO3S with CC phase 2 (you mapped it last year) so im running around 230bhp.
I need good brakes on a budget if poss.
Ds2500 with standard discs? Standard rears?
Can you please price me what you advise, im looking to buy them in the next couple of weeks.
Thanks.
ibizacupra
21-07-2009, 11:58
Some options here> http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=147058&page=2
Plain front disks - £73.00/pair
Plain rear disks - £34.35/pair
grooved add £25/disk (eliptical or 8 groove)
DS2500's - £79
Pagid rear pads - £35
regards
bill
I think i'll go for the Eliptically grooved discs with Ds2500's.
Are they available?
£208 + vat plus delivery @ ?
Cheers Bill.
ibizacupra
22-07-2009, 08:27
available to order yes.
would you recommend these with EBC Ultimax Disks?
Price Please?
Rico
ibizacupra
29-08-2009, 19:12
would you recommend these with EBC Ultimax Disks?
Price Please?
Rico
yep, most certainly
£99+vat & carriage
regards
bill
Brilliant, thank you.
Expect an order next week sometime.
Rico
ibizacupra
29-08-2009, 21:38
no probs sir
Hi
I have the Brembo GT Kit fitted to my TT. They take standard LCR disks, but not sure what size that is. I've been recommended that these are excellent replacement pads and that you did them at a good price.
Down to the last couple of mm so need some soon tbh.
Cheers
Matt
ibizacupra
22-09-2009, 10:39
323x28 size disk generally.. same as lcr
pads are £99+vat and carriage
regards
bill
Cheers Bill. You got a contact number or something? How do I pay?
You got them in stock? Mine are down to less than 2mm now
kevscupra
22-09-2009, 22:00
Am looking at upgrading my brakes pads and discs on my mk4 Ibiza Cupra tdi with the Seat Sport calipers,
i would like the Ferodo ds2500 pads for the front.
what rear pads would you recommend?
what discs would you recommend that work well with the ds2500 pads?
thanks
ibizacupra
23-09-2009, 14:39
Cheers Bill. You got a contact number or something? How do I pay?
You got them in stock? Mine are down to less than 2mm now
contact number is in my siggy
I am away on holiday till Monday tho
in stock yes
rgds
bill
ibizacupra
23-09-2009, 14:42
Am looking at upgrading my brakes pads and discs on my mk4 Ibiza Cupra tdi with the Seat Sport calipers,
i would like the Ferodo ds2500 pads for the front.
what rear pads would you recommend?
what discs would you recommend that work well with the ds2500 pads?
thanks
hiya
pagid rears are what I advise for rears £35
plain or grooved disks work fine but grooved will have a little more bite
I do ultimax or eliptical or 8 groove versions at £179/pair plus vat
regards
bill
Cheers I'll ring you Monday.
Will go easy till then. :blink:
ibizacupra
23-09-2009, 18:30
okies
kevscupra
23-09-2009, 21:18
hiya
pagid rears are what I advise for rears £35
plain or grooved disks work fine but grooved will have a little more bite
I do ultimax or eliptical or 8 groove versions at £179/pair plus vat
regards
bill
hi bill
do you have the ds2500 pads for the seat sport calipers in stock?
and do you have the pagid rear pads in stock?
thanks
kev
ibizacupra
24-09-2009, 10:28
not got seat sport ds2500's in stock no, 2-3 days to me. rears in stock yes.. i am back @ workshop from monday
regards
bill
kevscupra
24-09-2009, 21:02
not got seat sport ds2500's in stock no, 2-3 days to me. rears in stock yes.. i am back @ workshop from monday
regards
bill
when your back at your workshop would you beable to order me some ds2500 pads please?
would you beable to supply me with retaining pins and spring for the brake calipers when i change the pads? if so how much please?
cheers
ibizacupra
25-09-2009, 11:34
give me a bell on sunday/monday and i will sort it out for you
regards
bill
Are these available in 345mm for r32's, mk2 leon cupra etc?
ibizacupra
27-09-2009, 10:53
dont know, but if there's a pad shape i can see to cross reference i will be able to confirm
kevscupra
27-09-2009, 12:59
give me a bell on sunday/monday and i will sort it out for you
regards
bill
right, i'll ring you monday
cheers
kev
got my new pads today.
thanks for prompt delivery Bill
ta
Dan
ibizacupra
30-09-2009, 16:55
no worries :thumbup:
Hi
Just to say thanks for quick delivery, all fitted and working fine.
How many miles do you reckon to run these in a go easy on them before I start really using them?
ibizacupra
10-10-2009, 17:05
follow the guide posted in this section...
Errm don't know if this is a stupid question, but do ferodo do these ds2500's for the standard calipers on my tfsi sport? If not are there any other decent pads to upgrade to? Had the car remaped and would like a bit more stopping poke but only for road use (for the time being)! Cheers all!
ibizacupra
09-11-2009, 08:48
Errm don't know if this is a stupid question, but do ferodo do these ds2500's for the standard calipers on my tfsi sport? If not are there any other decent pads to upgrade to? Had the car remaped and would like a bit more stopping poke but only for road use (for the time being)! Cheers all!
which model sir? what size disks?
they may well make a pad yes.. if you can confirm the above for me
Sorry, it's a mk2 leon tfsi sport on an 06 plate! I don't know what size the discs are tho? Is there anyway to find out other than phyically measuring them? I'd guess that they're the same size as the FR brakes tbh, but i dunno for sure!
:EDIT:
Just did a quick google, and came up with this thread!
http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?p=2272445
Which says Front 312 x 25 Vented - PR-1LJ FN3 caliper
Rear 286 x 12 Solid - PR-1KZ
You busy? :ban: Nah joking, not in much of a rush anyhoo! Checked my pads and there seems to be about 40% left atm, but when they're gone....... Meant to ask before what sort of life will i get out of these pads? Will they last as long as the oem (road use only)?
ibizacupra
10-11-2009, 15:52
longer
Ooooooo now the missus really doesn't have any excuse!!!! Lol. Question is tho have you had chance to see if they make em for my car? I tried looking on the ferrodo webby but i get some cgi error or something when i try to use their application checker thingy!
ibizacupra
19-11-2009, 13:12
Cupra ones I can find at £118+vat a set
I cannot confirm your however..
:(