View Full Version : Any word on Revo big turbo software?
Is this ever going to happen?
Keep reading bits and pieces on various forums but will it ever surface? There are LOADS of people waiting for something between the standard remap and all out 350BHP monster conversions so why isn't someone filling the gap in the market?
I, and many others it would seem, are crying out for a £2500-3000 conversion that'll get them to the magic 300BHP. Given the current weak $ there must be plent of profit for a tuner who comes up with a manifold that fits and a decent map.
Revo - if you want an S3 guinea pig, I'm your man :D
Adam
http://www.sciperformance.com/crides-John%20O.htm
http://www.sportcompactracing.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=41094&page=1&pp=15
http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/180915
..Revo BT is mentioned in all of these links - what are they referring to?
Adam
US Software & Kits
I appreciate that, wanting to know if anything is planned for us this side of the water or are we all still waiting for a RHD manifold for turbos other than the IHI?
If nothing is planned then fair enough...just wondered.
A
Ruddmeister
25-01-2005, 09:05
or are we all still waiting for a RHD manifold for turbos other than the IHI?
I think you have a point in that they need to be sure there is a viable market, every time it's been asked before though they have been 'busy' on other things e.g. Porsche stuff and the FSi engine.
Wilko is running a trial Revo BT code with an IHI turbo in his Golf IV, but it's just a trial at the mo.
I think you have a point in that they need to be sure there is a viable market, every time it's been asked before though they have been 'busy' on other things e.g. Porsche stuff and the FSi engine.
Wilko is running a trial Revo BT code with an IHI turbo in his Golf IV, but it's just a trial at the mo.
FSi owner numbers are very small, and all of the engines are still in warranty so number of people willing to mod is limited - how long has the 1.8T been out there now? 6-7 years?
I did read about Wilko and the tiny bit on the Revo website about tuning packages - I for one think that a bolt on tuning package plus software would be very popular indeed - one stop shop as it were :D
Adam
Ruddmeister
25-01-2005, 09:35
FSi owner numbers are very small, and all of the engines are still in warranty so number of people willing to mod is limited
True but they are the future the 1.8T won't be made much longer.
There are a few companies looking at BT not just Revo, all we can hope is for some real competition for Jabba's domination to spice the market up a bit. That said fair play to Jabba, must have spent mucho ££££'s on getting BT sorted.
True but they are the future the 1.8T won't be made much longer.
There are a few companies looking at BT not just Revo, all we can hope is for some real competition for Jabba's domination to spice the market up a bit. That said fair play to Jabba, must have spent mucho ££££'s on getting BT sorted.
I bet that was said when the 1.8T was released, just think how many 1.8Ts are on the road right now :-o
As you say competition is the name of the game. Revo have a good chance of taking the lions share of the business if they get their finger out - already a lot of existing customers and if an incentive were given to stay with Revo for their BT needs I'm sure a lot of customers would be interested in the kit. Surely that's a HUGE advantage for them...
How hard can it be?
Software - sounds like Revo bunch have it working already for Wilko for IHI at least
Manifold - Jabba can supply one with fitting to suit non IHI if required if their own cannot be made
Downpipes - Get 1 of each of the planned cars down to Hayward and scott to measure up, I'm know H&S have done this kind of thing for other car owners clubs so I'm sure they'd love to accomodate a company like Revo to make a load for
...just needs to be kept simple - perhaps 2 turbo options, IHI or GT28RS - super cheap in the US right now to keep the cost of the kit down ;)
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Ruddmeister
25-01-2005, 10:02
Biggest issues are the RHD and LHD issues, ruling out lots of US kits
There at at least four companies other than Jabba and Revo working on this to my knowledge. Probably many, many others. We'll have to wait and see.
grant@westec.uk
25-01-2005, 10:09
:whistle:
Shock_Xe
25-01-2005, 10:10
We have the ability to provide BT hardware for 1.8T's which isnt IHI, But whats stopping us is 2 things
1) Viable and reliable Mapping from a well know tuner (other than Jabba)
2) People actually coming up with the ££ for a BT kit as alot of people talk but very few walk :(
We have the ability to provide BT hardware for 1.8T's which isnt IHI, But whats stopping us is 2 things
1) Viable and reliable Mapping from a well know tuner (other than Jabba)
2) People actually coming up with the ££ for a BT kit as alot of people talk but very few walk :(
Approx £££ ?
I'm not looking to go crazy .. 300ish BHP + 320ish lb/ft would suit me.
Cheers,
Adam
Shock_Xe
25-01-2005, 10:19
Approx £££ ?
I'm not looking to go crazy .. 300ish BHP + 320ish lb/ft would suit me.
Cheers,
Adam
Mucho cheaper than Jabba :p (our markup is much lower)
But you have to find a tuner then, We have one but he does alot of private work. He is very good but people like the brand name which he doesnt have
Mucho cheaper than Jabba :p (our markup is much lower)
But you have to find a tuner then, We have one but he does alot of private work. He is very good but people like the brand name which he doesnt have
Care to pm me some details/ideas?
..done anything for an S3 before? Would imagine it's not that different to the LCR..
Cheers,
Adam
Revo Kev
25-01-2005, 10:40
JBS are working on a GT28RS kit for RHD setups at the moment.
We aren't in the hardware game, and don't want to get into it ourselves.
Yes, we'd love to offer and support BT or 'stage 2/3' code but we haven't the resources to do this as efficiently as we feel is needed at the moment.
The chances of something 'going wrong' with BT software are much greater than with tuning a regular car, longiviety is greatly reduced. Offered as an off the shelf product, such upgrades are required to be reliable... IMO the majority of people that would go this route wouldn't understand the potential for upsets by running at much higher levels.
Projects such as MED9, EDC16, Porsche, N/A VAG are much more beneficial to us as a company and to our dealers, the BT software market is very limited in comparison. These projects will hopefully allow us to get to a level where by we can efficiently support 'special' projects for highly modified cars at a later date.
ibizacupra
25-01-2005, 10:57
Mucho cheaper than Jabba :p (our markup is much lower)
But you have to find a tuner then, We have one but he does alot of private work. He is very good but people like the brand name which he doesnt have
Looking forward to seeing some actual results from Addo's car...
A cut and shut manifold is a far cry from selling a kit to customers. (who will expect reliability)
James @ JBS is making his own manifold currently for ATP based hardware and GT28RS etc... Only time and milage on installed cars prove whether kits are going to be reliable. Luv em or hate em the Jabba one has been the only one for RHD cars which has both installed customer base (albeit small) with milage and abuse thrown at them.
Anyone can fab their own bits together, but there remains a big gap in the UK market for true bolt on kits (which include software).
APR's kit may or may not see the light of day at some point... if anyone will be able to afford it.. (exchange rate being favourable currently, you'd hope it would)
Roll on Addo's setup so something else can be seen running (non IHI) :cheers:
grant@westec.uk
25-01-2005, 11:28
We are working with EIP Tuning to convert all of they're turbo conversions to RHD, one of which is for the 1.8T stages 1-4.
We are currently in the organisation stage but should actually comence work in the next few months.
Ruddmeister
25-01-2005, 11:31
We are working with EIP Tuning to convert all of they're turbo conversions to RHD, one of which is for the 1.8T stages 1-4.
We are currently in the organisation stage but should actually comence work in the next few months.
What's the software side Grant;-
Eip
Unichip
Shock_Xe
25-01-2005, 11:46
Looking forward to seeing some actual results from Addo's car...
A cut and shut manifold is a far cry from selling a kit to customers. (who will expect reliability)
Anyone can fab their own bits together, but there remains a big gap in the UK market for true bolt on kits (which include software).
Roll on Addo's setup so something else can be seen running (non IHI) :cheers:
Who said anything about cut n shut??? Got a few options/places for casting as the "Cut n Shut" as you put it, is our template.
grant@westec.uk
25-01-2005, 12:21
What's the software side Grant;-
Eip
Unichip
EIP are developing their software for the European market as we speak, thats pretty much all I'm waiting for before we start bolting a turbo on the R32.
Unichip have a new and apparently all singing unit coming out in the spring, not had a confirmed date yet but we will be taking a look at them.
Ruddmeister
25-01-2005, 12:25
EIP are developing their software for the European market as we speak, thats pretty much all I'm waiting for before we start bolting a turbo on the R32.
Cool :thumbup:
Eip certainly seem to have a good reputation in the US, be interesting to see their products over here.
Looking forward to seeing some actual results from Addo's car...
A cut and shut manifold is a far cry from selling a kit to customers. (who will expect reliability)
Thanks for your comments bill :thumbd:
Cut and shut! Bill i cant recall you ever seeing the finished manifold to able to pass your comments. Did i mentinion that my manifold was being sold as a kit? I expect Jabba's first carnations weren't winning quality awards but were acheiving the development they wanted as there end result proves to be a good manifold.
My car has never been chipped as I'd always planned to go for a big turbo upgrade. If Revo had a "stage 2" (plus) upgrade path then I'd probably have put my money their way as the SPS3 functions appeal to me. As they don't have such an upgrade path, that rules them out - I'm not messing about buying & selling ECUs.
I along with others have waited patiently while Jabbasport developed their IHI conversion - the reliability of which I'm happy with, given our resident Badger's testing program!
The attraction of the IHI conversion was it's price - at the £3-3.5K first mooted, it finally offered value for money to a VW-based scene that's been butt-f*cked financially by "tuners" ever since I can remember.
However, there is no way I am prepared to sink £4.5-£5K into a conversion that is essentially a 'bolt-on' upgrade to a car that came turbocharged from the factory - I'd expect to spend that sort of cash on turbocharging a normally aspirated car to a decent standard. There are no intercoolers or rods, pistons, etc included in the price. Rumours abound that other BT firms will price their kits to the market...sounds like a cartel to me.
So, that leaves the option of sourcing parts myself as Wilko did, then finding someone to map ME7.X to suit. To my mind, anyone who can fill the gap with a 'parts list kit' and software to suit those who can do the spanner work themselves (or get someone to fit it) for £3K all in, will have a winner.
ibizacupra
25-01-2005, 14:06
Who said anything about cut n shut??? Got a few options/places for casting as the "Cut n Shut" as you put it, is our template.
it is cut ans shut tho is'nt it.. template or not..
results pending...
not a criticism. :rolleyes: but i aint arguing with you :whistle:
Shock_Xe
25-01-2005, 14:10
it is cut ans shut tho is'nt it.. template or not..
results pending...
not a criticism. :rolleyes: but i aint arguing with you :whistle:
Prefer the Term 'Modified or Customised' :bleh: :p Sounds nicer ;)
ibizacupra
25-01-2005, 14:14
Thanks for your comments bill :thumbd:
Cut and shut! Bill i cant recall you ever seeing the finished manifold to able to pass your comments. Did i mentinion that my manifold was being sold as a kit? I expect Jabba's first carnations weren't winning quality awards but were acheiving the development they wanted as there end result proves to be a good manifold.
You dont have a customer manifold tho do you?
You have yours which is modded cut & shut to fit RHD.. and learn from it. which I know you have. - You're not the only one modding LHD manifolds to RHD fitment ya know :p
Stop being so fecking touchy.. :rolleyes:
Mike's saying you are doing a manifold.. is he not? or are you? are you not? What are you doing then? or planning?
Presuming it will be based on yours and what you've learnt so far..... be Garrett fitment, RHD friendly etc.
Look forward to seeing it running well and producing the numbers you hope from it.
:cheers:
Prefer the Term 'Modified or Customised' :bleh: :p Sounds nicer ;)
As far as I'm concerned ANY new option is good news mate - keep me posted ;)
..may just have to get some NOS in the meantime to satisfy my need for speed :D
A
ibizacupra
25-01-2005, 14:15
Prefer the Term 'Modified or Customised' :bleh: :p Sounds nicer ;)
LOL ok.. modified.. (which may involve a bit of cutting and welding..)
:)
Pattern for a cast one.
Ruddmeister
25-01-2005, 14:19
So who will be first with a complete Hardware / Software BT solution and have them ready for customer cars;-
JBS
A&M
Westec / Eip
Apr
Place your bets, could make for some fun rolling road days in 2005 :) :clap:
ibizacupra
25-01-2005, 14:22
My car has never been chipped as I'd always planned to go for a big turbo upgrade. If Revo had a "stage 2" (plus) upgrade path then I'd probably have put my money their way as the SPS3 functions appeal to me. As they don't have such an upgrade path, that rules them out - I'm not messing about buying & selling ECUs.
I along with others have waited patiently while Jabbasport developed their IHI conversion - the reliability of which I'm happy with, given our resident Badger's testing program!
The attraction of the IHI conversion was it's price - at the £3-3.5K first mooted, it finally offered value for money to a VW-based scene that's been butt-f*cked financially by "tuners" ever since I can remember.
However, there is no way I am prepared to sink £4.5-£5K into a conversion that is essentially a 'bolt-on' upgrade to a car that came turbocharged from the factory - I'd expect to spend that sort of cash on turbocharging a normally aspirated car to a decent standard. There are no intercoolers or rods, pistons, etc included in the price. Rumours abound that other BT firms will price their kits to the market...sounds like a cartel to me.
So, that leaves the option of sourcing parts myself as Wilko did, then finding someone to map ME7.X to suit. To my mind, anyone who can fill the gap with a 'parts list kit' and software to suit those who can do the spanner work themselves (or get someone to fit it) for £3K all in, will have a winner.
The parts list is'nt as big as you would think..
440cc injectors, 75mm MAF, DP & turbo outlet, manifold (buy or make), turbo (choice).
As Wilko has shown sourcing your own bits can save mucho dinero.
Worst part of the job would be fabricating the DP form turbo outlet. The rest does just bolt on.
Remap to taste by whoever you feel most comfortable with.
REVO have done Wilko's code and its good. Define th elist of bits liek injectors, MAF size, turbo spec and you could tailor a kit even with REVO tweeking with Lemmiwinks and the like. They're going this on Vortex with BT REVO code.
ibizacupra
25-01-2005, 14:23
So who will be first with a complete Hardware / Software BT solution and have them ready for customer cars;-
JBS
A&M
Westec / Eip
Apr
Place your bets, could make for some fun rolling road days in 2005 :) :clap:
I would guess in that order you typed it in.. (is there a prize for guessing correctly?) :bleh:
What size MAF / injectors does the S3 have as std?
Adam
Ruddmeister
25-01-2005, 14:47
I would guess in that order you typed it in.. (is there a prize for guessing correctly?) :bleh:
Prize? Yes, I'll let you have it in person next time I see you ;) :D
In that order you say?, well all to play for really I think, with both hardware and software issues to overcome....
ibizacupra
25-01-2005, 16:42
Prize? Yes, I'll let you have it in person next time I see you ;) :D
LOL assumes I guess right..
only time will tell.
about time something else was on the block.
the world does'nt revolve around IHI and I'm tired of being the tgt for people to aim at. :whistle: FFS someone get a more powerful 1.8T on the block, so you can be the moving tgt for other people to aim for. I'm sure as sh1t tired of it. :redface:
roll up roll up, place ya bets... [B)]
ibizacupra
25-01-2005, 16:43
What size MAF / injectors does the S3 have as std?
Adam
75mm MAF housing
not sure on injectors... 270-330cc range I think.
The parts list is'nt as big as you would think..
440cc injectors, 75mm MAF, DP & turbo outlet, manifold (buy or make), turbo (choice).
Absolutely, that's what makes it so strange to have a large gap in the market. As Kev says, it doesn't make sense for Revo to develop BT hardware, particularly for the SEAT & Skoda brands (where they differ from VW/Audi) as they won't have shifted enough RHD volume to be worth it. What might make sense though is what we're suggesting - leave the hardware to the customer or possibly even use the partnerships with Forge or whoever. Then say "Build a car with these components (insert list) and we have a program you can use."
The guys who are willing to take (serious) spanners to their cars should be well aware of the reliability/build quality pitfalls.
As it stands, it must be quite frustrating for Revo distributors when a customer comes to them asking how can they upgrade from Stage 1, you've got to tell them to sell/px their ECU and get over to Jabbasport/JBS/whoever or even worse, tell them not to even bother with Revo and go straight to the competition.
s3 has 360cc injectors and a 4 bar fpr.3" maf as bill has stated.
software; jabba/unichip/motec even amd.There are plenty of options it depends on how much £.
s3 has 360cc injectors and a 4 bar fpr.3" maf as bill has stated.
Interesting - LCR is 3 bar FPR...
Shock_Xe
25-01-2005, 22:42
You dont have a customer manifold tho do you?
You have yours which is modded cut & shut to fit RHD.. and learn from it. which I know you have. - You're not the only one modding LHD manifolds to RHD fitment ya know :p
Mike's saying you are doing a manifold.. is he not? or are you? are you not? What are you doing then? or planning?
Presuming it will be based on yours and what you've learnt so far..... be Garrett fitment, RHD friendly etc.
At the mo its a case of we have sources to make one, we have finances to do so, We have a template and we have the basic knowledge.
The only thing stopping us is the success of it, as at present Big Turbo is still a small area of the market in comparison to other tuning bits. So we are cautious where we invest the £££.....
People are still cautious with big power which they have a right to be as it can cause alot of problems as seen by yourself.
Alot of people show interest in such products but when it comes down to it 75% of people dont seem to go through with it which then questions its financial viability
Shock_Xe
25-01-2005, 22:47
Stop being so fecking touchy.. :rolleyes:
He is fecked off with the car and doesnt like the comments which is understandable, I remember someone not so long ago having the same sort of response with a certain g'box comment?? :confused: :rolleyes: :whistle:
Interesting - LCR is 3 bar FPR...
are you sure? or is the 210 3 bar and 225 4 bar ???
Shock_Xe
25-01-2005, 22:58
are you sure? or is the 210 3 bar and 225 4 bar ???
I know the 210 is 3 bar, But that is a good Question as it could contribute to the extra Power???
I know the 210 is 3 bar, But that is a good Question as it could contribute to the extra Power???
Fairly sure the 225 is a 3bar also, but thinking about it now everyone who I'm sure has checked has a 210.
neg's a 225...
sportbilly
25-01-2005, 23:12
After speaking to Revo about the 4bar on the LC they said the 3bar on the LCR was working within its limits so no need to change - took this as they all had 3bar's. Could be wrong though ...
I will check if someone would like to tell me where/what to check :hide:
It's on the fuel rail, at the right hand side, shiny metal thing that looks a bit like a flying saucer :hide:
On yours the "3 Bar" or "4 Bar" will be stamped on at the back, and it's quite hard to see (got a mirror?)
ibizacupra
25-01-2005, 23:24
Alot of people show interest in such products but when it comes down to it 75% of people dont seem to go through with it which then questions its financial viability
I know, as seen on your 3" DP, LCR system thread..
ibizacupra
25-01-2005, 23:26
He is fecked off with the car and doesnt like the comments which is understandable, I remember someone not so long ago having the same sort of response with a certain g'box comment?? :confused: :rolleyes: :whistle:
yes.. annoying is'nt it ;)
sportbilly
25-01-2005, 23:33
Flying saucer, spotted it straight away - I can confirm the 225 has a 3.0bar FPR.
I think reliablility is everything and the key to the sucess of the BT conversions. I spoke to Elton at jabba not long ago and he told me that there BT conversion was designed to be used everyday and still retain the 10k service intervals.
At the end of the day i'd rather pay more and get a very reliable product. I would be reluctant to go with something that is fairly new and untested.
So all in all even tho there are several options for BT conversions i woulds still go for jabba.
If only they would hurry up!
I think reliablility is everything and the key to the sucess of the BT conversions. I spoke to Elton at jabba not long ago and he told me that there BT conversion was designed to be used everyday and still retain the 10k service intervals.
At the end of the day i'd rather pay more and get a very reliable product. I would be reluctant to go with something that is fairly new and untested.
So all in all even tho there are several options for BT conversions i woulds still go for jabba.
If only they would hurry up!
I agree completely .. just that I think that the price takes the p*ss a little.
£1k turbo, £1k for manifold and other bits (retail prices, not cost) and another £1k to put it into a box for you. If £3,100 included fitting and a remap I think they'd sell shedloads...
I'm talking about the S3 kit btw... larger MAF and associated piping not required.
Cheers!
A
ibizacupra
26-01-2005, 09:13
how many cars are left in the waiting for IHI queue then I wonder?
(wondering what mix of cars these might be)
I agree completely .. just that I think that the price takes the p*ss a little.
£1k turbo, £1k for manifold and other bits (retail prices, not cost) and another £1k to put it into a box for you. If £3,100 included fitting and a remap I think they'd sell shedloads...
I'm talking about the S3 kit btw... larger MAF and associated piping not required.
Cheers!
A
I use to think that they were charging to much for their kits. Still do to an extent. But to be hounest your better just paying for there kit and getting all the right bits. Instead of arseing about trying to find the bit.
how many cars are left in the waiting for IHI queue then I wonder?
(wondering what mix of cars these might be)
I was number 30 something. When i phoned up they said they were doing all the ibiza first. No dobt the queue is ever growing!
ibizacupra
26-01-2005, 11:39
I use to think that they were charging to much for their kits. Still do to an extent. But to be hounest your better just paying for there kit and getting all the right bits. Instead of arseing about trying to find the bit.
Wondering what an APR kit will cost here if it ever goes as a RHD friendly version.
Guessing its no less than Jabba's
Wondering what an APR kit will cost here if it ever goes as a RHD friendly version.
Guessing its no less than Jabba's
I guessing it would be roughly the same price as the jabba kit.
The problem with jabba is it is to far away 400miles or so. So if i have problems i will have problems getting to jabba.
Star on the other hand said there would be apr stage 3 with 380bhp but are very vague and sketchy about the details. I reakon it is way way off.
APR seems like a reputable name so does EIP.
Still waiting here... but the longer it takes the more i get tempted by supercharged ariel atoms... ;)
We have the ability to provide BT hardware for 1.8T's which isnt IHI, But whats stopping us is 2 things
1) Viable and reliable Mapping from a well know tuner (other than Jabba)
2) People actually coming up with the ££ for a BT kit as alot of people talk but very few walk :(
Why don't you want to provide your own hardware and let Jabba do the mapping?
Ben
EIP are developing their software for the European market as we speak, thats pretty much all I'm waiting for before we start bolting a turbo on the R32.
Unichip have a new and apparently all singing unit coming out in the spring, not had a confirmed date yet but we will be taking a look at them.
Developing their code for the European market? How and why is the Europeaon code gonna be any different to the US code?
Also, do they really provide off the shelf code for BT conversions? I was under the impression that whilst generic maps are ok for standard cars, a generic map is essential for a big turbo conversions? :confused:
One such example is that my IHI'd car was mapped at Jabba.... they planned on using Shanes IHI map (Similar spec), but when they put it on they found that the map was completely off, and not just by a little bit. In the end they mapped mine from scratch.
Ben
different fuels & emissions rules for starters
all the ECU codes are different too I beleive.
ibizacupra
26-01-2005, 22:38
Developing their code for the European market? How and why is the Europeaon code gonna be any different to the US code?
Also, do they really provide off the shelf code for BT conversions? I was under the impression that whilst generic maps are ok for standard cars, a generic map is essential for a big turbo conversions? :confused:
One such example is that my IHI'd car was mapped at Jabba.... they planned on using Shanes IHI map (Similar spec), but when they put it on they found that the map was completely off, and not just by a little bit. In the end they mapped mine from scratch.
Ben
Same way as APR claim on their kits.. includes software and hardware? Can you tell when you have >300bhp anyway if its more or less than you'd expect?
Yours had '20 housing and aquamist where Shanes did'nt?
Lemmiwinks is being used in conjunction with some 'spec' components I think to get a starter BT code to work. Whether its optimised is another thing. you can see the reluctance of REVO to dive in on this one.
Still waiting here... but the longer it takes the more i get tempted by supercharged ariel atoms... ;)
Hey Dangel i thought they set you a date did they not? Last time i spoke to you?
Hey Dangel i thought they set you a date did they not? Last time i spoke to you?
yes and that was a few months back :rolleyes: so i'm still waiting for a phonecall... :thumbd:
Bloody hell! You said within the month. :thumbd:
Doesnt look promising for me then. Seem like they are doing other cars first eg. ibiza.
Have they even done a conversion for a leon before?
Bloody hell! You said within the month. :thumbd:
Doesnt look promising for me then. Seem like they are doing other cars first eg. ibiza.
Have they even done a conversion for a leon before?
Not that i know of - but i can't see it being an issue with their Golf experience.
The delays have been incredible - it's been a very very long time since i was at jabba talking to them about it (year and a half plus?). If i've still got the car when they call i'll make a decision! :roflmao:
ibizacupra
27-01-2005, 17:14
sure they still have your number?
sure they still have your number?
Last time i spoke to them was er.. towards the end of last year so they should..
Seeing as we haven't heard of non-ibiza conversions yet I guess they're still going slow with it..
I'll bung them an email as a refresher (for the nth time!)... B'stard is that the wifes just lost her job so she'll not want me spending right now :-o
Not that i know of - but i can't see it being an issue with their Golf experience.
The delays have been incredible - it's been a very very long time since i was at jabba talking to them about it (year and a half plus?). If i've still got the car when they call i'll make a decision! :roflmao:
I must be closing in on the year now since i put my name down.
Last time i spoke to them was er.. towards the end of last year so they should..
Seeing as we haven't heard of non-ibiza conversions yet I guess they're still going slow with it..
I'll bung them an email as a refresher (for the nth time!)... B'stard is that the wifes just lost her job so she'll not want me spending right now :-o
Thats not good news after such a long wait!
Thats not good news after such a long wait!
Fingers crossed :)
Last time i spoke to them was er.. towards the end of last year so they should..
Seeing as we haven't heard of non-ibiza conversions yet I guess they're still going slow with it..
I'll bung them an email as a refresher (for the nth time!)... B'stard is that the wifes just lost her job so she'll not want me spending right now :-o
Hmmm, must be catching. Both Madmile and I both were made redundant just as we were about to get our IHI conversions! Didn't stop us though! :D
Ben
Yours had '20 housing and aquamist where Shanes did'nt?
True, but they were still expecting it to be much closer than it was. Shanes had aquamist fitted after the mapping.... so in theory his map is totally wrong now!?
Ben
ibizacupra
31-01-2005, 09:03
True, but they were still expecting it to be much closer than it was. Shanes had aquamist fitted after the mapping.... so in theory his map is totally wrong now!?
Ben
Remembering mines never been mapped for FMIC or decat or '20 housing or aquamist.... still running my original code. :whistle:
Remembering mines never been mapped for FMIC or decat or '20 housing or aquamist.... still running my original code. :whistle:
Hmmmm, true. Mind you you've increased the boost significantly without increasing the fueling at all havn't you? Must be way out, so hopefully plenty more to gain from a new map.
Ben
ibizacupra
03-02-2005, 18:44
Hmmmm, true. Mind you you've increased the boost significantly without increasing the fueling at all havn't you? Must be way out, so hopefully plenty more to gain from a new map.
Ben
Mike allowed "safe" (read over fueled top end) which I have used up.
Hmmm, must be catching. Both Madmile and I both were made redundant just as we were about to get our IHI conversions! Didn't stop us though! :D
Ben
Its the IHI curse. I heard that Golf's (jabba IHI) were being done at the moment.