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OK, done 475 miles in my Ibiza 210 now.
Yesterday the engine felt like it was loosening up a bit and I didn't get that loss of boost feeling at about 3500rpm, but today.... its 100 times worse than its ever been!!! http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/frown.gif
When I put my foot down a bit it boosts upto about 3000-3500rpm (It varies) and then suddenly the boost COMPLETELY goes... its like a rev limiter... i nearly hit my head on the steering wheel!!! http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/frown.gif
Not only that but it was like the original flat spot where I could push through it and regain boost again at about 4000rpm... this time I couldn't even get past 3500rpm!!!! http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/frown.gif
In fact, I couldn't even get the car to do more than 80mph on the motorway!!!!
Once in this state with the car refusing to do more than 3500rpm like a rev limiter i could sometimes regain the boost by taking my foot off the accelerator and then reapplying it!
The car behaved like this all the way home (30 miles) in 4th and 5th. Once i got to the local roads I tried it in 1st, 2nd and 3rd and it all appeared to be OK.
Bill, Amethyst, anyone help!!!!
Does this sound like the normal flatspot that will go away with time or something more serious??? http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/confused.gif
As was already having a bad day today!!!
Ben
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ECU! it don't like you mate! don' t worry your car will be ok. it sounds like a ECU fault.
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... or as somebody else posted some weeks ago: the ECU went into a kind of safety mode to prevent the turbo from melting because of excessive (tuned) boost. I'm sure i won't be asking for the maximum boost these small turbos can provide when modding my new cupra.
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Amethyst have done several Ibiza 210s without any problem... why would my ECu go into a saftey mode when the others don't?
Is anyone from Amethyst around tonight?
Bill, any thoughts?
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ben,
sounds like the fly by wire throttle may be out of sync.
give me a call 2morrow
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Graham @ Amethyst
ibizacupra
04-10-2001, 22:52
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BenS1:
Amethyst have done several Ibiza 210s without any problem... why would my ECu go into a saftey mode when the others don't?
Is anyone from Amethyst around tonight?
Bill, any thoughts?
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I have had the flatspot and occasionally had a dip in boost for no apparent reason (down to 5psi and back to 15psi)
I have'nt had this refusal to boost up that you describe though. Sounds bad to me.
I would get a boost guage fitted as it really helps identify whats going on. There does seem to be something about the system which switches the boost down to a steady 5psi on occasions.. Whether this is the safe mode or not I don't know.
I have logged into the ECU with my Ross-tech software to see if any faultcodes have appeared, but everything is clear.
I would mention it to Swinny. It does'nt sound right at all being that bad.
Unfortunately, intermittent faults can be such a bugger to identify though.
I have thought about doing some miles trying to get the fault to appear whilst datalogging with the ross-tech software to try and catch the event to help pinpoint it, IF it was recordable.
Are you running super UL? Optimax?
You do need to get the 1000miles under your belt first I think before trying to debug.
Good luck
regards
Bill
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http://www.badger5.co.uk
Cheers Bill,
I moved over to Super UL yesterday... but that shoudn't be a problem should it?!?!
I'll see how it goes for another couple of days... maybe just a bit of crap in the fuel (He says hopefully!)!!!
Ben
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ibizacupra
04-10-2001, 23:04
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BenS1:
Cheers Bill,
I moved over to Super UL yesterday... but that shoudn't be a problem should it?!?!
I'll see how it goes for another couple of days... maybe just a bit of crap in the fuel (He says hopefully!)!!!
Ben
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Like Swinny said, the fly by wire might have slipped out of synch. I mention the fuel thing as Danny @ RSD said that to me when I whined about the flatspot around 3500rpm. Its a Germanic Oettinger thing (98RON fuels in Germany), so UK low octane 95ul and a tight new motor exaggerate the slight hessitancy in their mapping. That said, I do not get this now I have 2K miles on my motor. They do get better with miles, but they do have their "moments".
Optimax in my tank now and it does feel peppier.
good luck
regards
bill
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http://www.badger5.co.uk
You guys better slove these flat spot issues coz im getting my cupra next month !!! A single flat spot and im going to set it on fire http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/wink.gif !
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SWINNY:
ben,
sounds like the fly by wire throttle may be out of sync.
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Can't you get it to resync itself by leaving the ignition on for 3 minutes (with the EPC light on) without starting the engine?
Cheers
Andy
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djawol@seatcupra.net
...computer games don't affect kids, I mean if Pac Man affected us as
kids, we'd all run around in a darkened room munching pills and listening
to repetitive music...
Dunno, can you?
Where did you here that?
I thought you weren't meant to leave the ignition on too long without starting the car???
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BTW, there were no problems with the car this morning (£0 mile drive to work).
Dropped it into 4th a couple of times on the motorway to take the revs a little higher... alarmed to find how quickly I hit 100 in 4th! http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/smile.gif
Whats the top speed anyone has got out of 5th? Must be good for well over 140mph???
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BenS1:
Whats the top speed anyone has got out of 5th? Must be good for well over 140mph???
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I've seen an indicated 135 on mine (on a private road at night http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/wink.gif) That's a standard car. I chickened out at that point, don't know how much was left?
Cheers
Andy
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djawol@seatcupra.net
...computer games don't affect kids, I mean if Pac Man affected us as
kids, we'd all run around in a darkened room munching pills and listening
to repetitive music...
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BenS1:
Dunno, can you?
Where did you here that?
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I'm not sure, it was a question really, I think somebody mentioned it on one of the forums? I've left mine on for 3 minutes to see if it made a difference. Didn't do any damage.
Cheers
Andy
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djawol@seatcupra.net
...computer games don't affect kids, I mean if Pac Man affected us as
kids, we'd all run around in a darkened room munching pills and listening
to repetitive music...
andy , just coz the golden valley is owned by the transport commision , does'nt mean its private http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/tongue.gif
btw your ickle signature now , after our chat room antics the other nite and the day i have had (ask martyn) it had me in tears of laughter , mind you it has been a long day ...... http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/smile.gif http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/smile.gif http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/smile.gif http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/smile.gif
hows it going ben ? anything ?
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DAZ the AMETHYST parts manager ( flapper@seatcupra.net )
(refreshing the PARTS most other dealers cannot reach)
BEN,
Give me a call I have got the answer to why the boost is dropping off.
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Graham @ Amethyst
Contact us at:
amethyst@seatcupra.net
Petrolhead Paul
06-10-2001, 18:40
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by SWINNY:
BEN,
Give me a call I have got the answer to why the boost is dropping off.
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Come on Swinny, spill the beans in case anyone else suffers from this.
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Yes, post it here!!!
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The problem was back again today!!! http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/frown.gif
Swinny, will give you a call tommorow (If your working on a Sunday)... interested to know what you've found out. I was wondering if it was something like the ECUs first 1000 mile 'learning program' protects the engine by limiting the revs much lower than normal, but if that were true then I'd expect it to happen all the time.
Ben
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by flapper:
andy , just coz the golden valley is owned by the transport commision , does'nt mean its private http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/tongue.gif
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http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/smile.gif http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/smile.gif http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/smile.gif http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/smile.gif
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btw your ickle signature now , after our chat room antics the other nite and the day i have had (ask martyn) it had me in tears of laughter , mind you it has been a long day ...... http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/smile.gif http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/smile.gif http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/smile.gif http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/smile.gif
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Thought you might like it! Made me laugh when I first read it in a clubbing magazine. Kept forgetting to add it in.
Oh, I'm going to need you to give me your opinion on my heater when I pop in on wednesday. Only seems to be warm on HI if you drop it to 27,26,25,24 degrees C it goes cold? http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/frown.gif
Cheers
Andy
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djawol@seatcupra.net
...computer games don't affect kids, I mean if Pac Man affected us as
kids, we'd all run around in a darkened room munching pills and listening
to repetitive music...
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by flapper:
the day i have had (ask martyn)
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What happened mate?? Problems fixing Marts motor?
Cheers
Andy
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djawol@seatcupra.net
...computer games don't affect kids, I mean if Pac Man affected us as
kids, we'd all run around in a darkened room munching pills and listening
to repetitive music...
Andy,
My heater also only ever appears to blow out warm air at best.... never hot air. Is this normal?
Ben
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ibizacupra
08-10-2001, 08:27
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BenS1:
The problem was back again today!!! http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/frown.gif
Swinny, will give you a call tommorow (If your working on a Sunday)... interested to know what you've found out. I was wondering if it was something like the ECUs first 1000 mile 'learning program' protects the engine by limiting the revs much lower than normal, but if that were true then I'd expect it to happen all the time.
Ben
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I would be interested to hear what the problem is, when it gets sorted.
I am having a few "5psi" moments at unusual times. I am at RSD Wednesday getting the PSS9's fitted, so I will be asking Danny anyway.
Good luck getting it fixed.
regards
bill
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http://www.badger5.co.uk
ibizacupra
08-10-2001, 08:30
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BenS1:
The problem was back again today!!! http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/frown.gif
Swinny, will give you a call tommorow (If your working on a Sunday)... interested to know what you've found out. I was wondering if it was something like the ECUs first 1000 mile 'learning program' protects the engine by limiting the revs much lower than normal, but if that were true then I'd expect it to happen all the time.
Ben
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I would be interested to hear what the problem is, when it gets sorted.
I am having a few "5psi" moments at unusual times. I am at RSD Wednesday getting the PSS9's fitted, so I will be asking Danny anyway.
Good luck getting it fixed.
regards
bill
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http://www.badger5.co.uk
I know why it is........
ECU Program runs zero boost just after it overboosts.
then *normal* boost again after that.
thanks SEAT ECU designers..... NOT
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BenS1:
OK, done 475 miles in my Ibiza 210 now.
Yesterday the engine felt like it was loosening up a bit and I didn't get that loss of boost feeling at about 3500rpm, but today.... its 100 times worse than its ever been!!! http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/frown.gif
When I put my foot down a bit it boosts upto about 3000-3500rpm (It varies) and then suddenly the boost COMPLETELY goes... its like a rev limiter... i nearly hit my head on the steering wheel!!! http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/frown.gif
Not only that but it was like the original flat spot where I could push through it and regain boost again at about 4000rpm... this time I couldn't even get past 3500rpm!!!! http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/frown.gif
In fact, I couldn't even get the car to do more than 80mph on the motorway!!!!
Once in this state with the car refusing to do more than 3500rpm like a rev limiter i could sometimes regain the boost by taking my foot off the accelerator and then reapplying it!
The car behaved like this all the way home (30 miles) in 4th and 5th. Once i got to the local roads I tried it in 1st, 2nd and 3rd and it all appeared to be OK.
Bill, Amethyst, anyone help!!!!
Does this sound like the normal flatspot that will go away with time or something more serious??? http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/confused.gif
As was already having a bad day today!!!
Ben
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Mark
www.SEAT-Sport.co.uk
This isn't just a little problem though... it makes even normal driving almost impossible. The revs limit at about 3250rpm making it difficult to use the car full stop.
It was even a little dangerous at first... the first time it happened I was going down a slip road to join the M25, and I saw a lorry in the slow lane so I thought that I'd simply put my foot down a little and would join a fair distance in front of the lorry (Without causing him to brake or anything). Anyway, put my foot down a little, boosted forwards, then suddenly the car stopped accelerating at 3250rpm... it was very sudden like a rev limiter and it threw me forwards in the chair. Anyway, all confused and out of slip road I was forced to join the motorway, JUST in front of the lorry!!!
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Anyway, I'm not blaming anyone... it might just be a problem with the fly by wire accelerator which is no-ones fault.
I've spoken to Graham this morning (Swinny) and I'm going to take the car in on Saturday.
Knowing my luck the problem wont happen when I get there!!!
I just htough of another potential cause of the problem... I'm still in the 1000 mile learning program in which the ECU is meant to learn your driving style... when driving around town I normally put my foot down in a gear (Low revs) and when the boost kicks in I immeadiately change up a gear (I don't want to be boosting around town). Anyway, the result is that the car boosts upto about 3000rpm or so and then suddenly I change up a gear and the boost drops back off.
Is it possible that the ECU has 'learnt' that when I get to 3000rpm or so that I want to drop the boost back off?
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I'm not sure exactly how and what the ECU can learn.
Ben
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Several people have mentioned this "Safe mode" that the ECU can go into when the turbo gets too near its limits... why does the boost drop right the way down, why doesn't the ECU just drop the boost a little (From 15psi down to say 12psi instead of all the way down to 5psi)?
Can this 'feature' of the ECU be overridden?
Not sure if that would be a good idea though.
Ben
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ibizacupra
08-10-2001, 22:56
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BenS1:
Several people have mentioned this "Safe mode" that the ECU can go into when the turbo gets too near its limits... why does the boost drop right the way down, why doesn't the ECU just drop the boost a little (From 15psi down to say 12psi instead of all the way down to 5psi)?
Can this 'feature' of the ECU be overridden?
Not sure if that would be a good idea though.
Ben
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The 5psi boost limit seems to also be triggered by the TCS when on (or off = on anyway ???)
Its always 5psi when mine stutters. After 15+psi it feels like you shoot forward in your seat its that sudden.
I have seen 17psi which then winds back to 12psi as the revs climb.
Is the pressure capsule on the actuator rated at 5psi maybe?
Is it an Amal valve type thing which electronically controls the boost level on these cars?
Bill
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http://www.badger5.co.uk
So your getting similar problems then?
This doesn't sound good... if it was a problem then it could be fixed but if all 210s are doing it then theres probably nothing we can do!
Its so bad that I couldn't even overtake my mate in his 1.4 Fiat Tipo and he wasn't even flooring it!!! I put my foot down.... accelerated, then sudden lack of acceleration... from that point I struggled to get the speed up at all and I couldn't pass him!!!!
As it is at the moment I'd say I could beat anyone driving my Ibiza in my old 205 1.9 Gti... probably even in my old 205 1.4!!! No exageration.
Anyway... I'll find out if it is a problem this weekend.
As I don't know what the problem is for sure don't think that I'm saying anything bad about the 210 conversion... this could just be a one off fault that is easily fixed. This may have nothing to do with the conversion.
The last thing I want to do is put people off Amethyst or the 210 conversion. They are still the best dealership I have done business with and they are being very helpful in trying to sort this problem... its just that I'm 130 miles away so I'll have to wait 'til Saturday until I can take the car in!!!
Thanks,
Ben
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Petrolhead Paul
09-10-2001, 13:28
Ben, I haven't had any problems with mine apart from the boost flat spot which is normal until the engine is run in (not the severe sudden holding back you are experiencing but the original flat spot we were talking about). Still only 400 miles on mine.
I'm feeding in the power gently at the moment and not giving it anything like full throttle until I've got 1000 miles on the clock, and even then I'll take it fairly steady for another 1000.
I wouldn't worry about racing anyone yet, just chill out and go steady until you take it to Amethyst and the fault can be diagnosed properly. If there was any inherant fault with this conversion it would have shown up on one of the dozens of cars already converted. And count yourself lucky its a dealer-backed conversion with a 3 year warranty so stay cool http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/cool.gif
When its sorted and run in the only cars you'll be worried about not keeping up with will be Impreza STis and Lancer Evos.
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BenS1:
So your getting similar problems then?
This doesn't sound good... if it was a problem then it could be fixed but if all 210s are doing it then theres probably nothing we can do!
Its so bad that I couldn't even overtake my mate in his 1.4 Fiat Tipo and he wasn't even flooring it!!! I put my foot down.... accelerated, then sudden lack of acceleration... from that point I struggled to get the speed up at all and I couldn't pass him!!!!
As it is at the moment I'd say I could beat anyone driving my Ibiza in my old 205 1.9 Gti... probably even in my old 205 1.4!!! No exageration.
Anyway... I'll find out if it is a problem this weekend.
As I don't know what the problem is for sure don't think that I'm saying anything bad about the 210 conversion... this could just be a one off fault that is easily fixed. This may have nothing to do with the conversion.
The last thing I want to do is put people off Amethyst or the 210 conversion. They are still the best dealership I have done business with and they are being very helpful in trying to sort this problem... its just that I'm 130 miles away so I'll have to wait 'til Saturday until I can take the car in!!!
Thanks,
Ben
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Don't worry Ben. Your car won't be that bad forever - i'm sure they will sort the problem out.
Anyway, what i learned from all these posts; i will run my car in before i am doing any conversion and won't be asking for the maximum boost - that is sure! Luckily, i wont even have TCS so (hopefully) nothing which could decrease performance. Then, i'll learn how it works as standard and i'll know when it's working badly when modified.
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ibizacupra
09-10-2001, 20:11
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BenS1:
So your getting similar problems then?
This doesn't sound good... if it was a problem then it could be fixed but if all 210s are doing it then theres probably nothing we can do!
Its so bad that I couldn't even overtake my mate in his 1.4 Fiat Tipo and he wasn't even flooring it!!! I put my foot down.... accelerated, then sudden lack of acceleration... from that point I struggled to get the speed up at all and I couldn't pass him!!!!
As it is at the moment I'd say I could beat anyone driving my Ibiza in my old 205 1.9 Gti... probably even in my old 205 1.4!!! No exageration.
Anyway... I'll find out if it is a problem this weekend.
As I don't know what the problem is for sure don't think that I'm saying anything bad about the 210 conversion... this could just be a one off fault that is easily fixed. This may have nothing to do with the conversion.
The last thing I want to do is put people off Amethyst or the 210 conversion. They are still the best dealership I have done business with and they are being very helpful in trying to sort this problem... its just that I'm 130 miles away so I'll have to wait 'til Saturday until I can take the car in!!!
Thanks,
Ben
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Hey Ben.. Don't panic. It'll be sorted for sure. My 5psi moments are not long duration - maybe 2-3 seconds. It feels like ages when you're joining the motorway (this too happeneed to me) but it did'nt get stuck there for long. I am sure its throttle related, as when I pushed the throttle into the carpet it seems to go through it and back to 15psi.
Adaptive throttle?
Swinny - I think you could help a lot of us 20VT owners (210 converted in particular) if you were able to get some tech detail on how exectly the adaptation of the throttle actually works... How long does it adapt? Does it always adapt or only after resetting? That kind of thing.
Informed is a better way of proceeding.
I'll ask Danny tomorrow at RSD to see what he can come up with also.
It can only help.
regards
Bill
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http://www.badger5.co.uk
[Message edited by ibizacupra on 09 October 2001.]
Thanks for your support...
Just keeping you updated and letting you know that they problem didn't occur today!
Intermittent problems are the worst... you can guarentee that the problem wont occur when I'm at Amethyst on Saturday, but then on the way back it will!!!! Sods law!
Hopefully there will be somethng in the fault log that the 5051 can pick up.
Ben
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Steve3961
10-10-2001, 19:31
I work for audi and had the same fault on a couple of TT's. Have you got a perfomance air filter fitted? if you have get rid of it as the oil infects the air mass meter and sends out dodgy readings to the ECU causing flat spots.also dump valves can upset things?
Hope it helps!
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Audi tech
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BenS1:
My heater also only ever appears to blow out warm air at best.... never hot air. Is this normal?
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Don't think so mate. I took mine in yesterday. Check to see if yours in cold on 25/26/27/28 etc and then gets really hot on HI. That's what mine is doing. Going to get the flap motor replaced. I'll let you know if it fixes it.
Cheers
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djawol@seatcupra.net
...computer games don't affect kids, I mean if Pac Man affected us as
kids, we'd all run around in a darkened room munching pills and listening
to repetitive music...
Steve,
Its an Ibiza Cupra with the 210 conversion from Amethyst which includes a Forge Dump valve. Bill, Swinny what do you think of Steves comments? Is it possible?
Ben
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chungster
11-10-2001, 18:45
Ben,
Have you got any other gizmos fitted...like a Clifford alarm system for instance???
Or any major stero upgrades yet?
Lee
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ibizacupra
12-10-2001, 08:25
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BenS1:
Steve,
Its an Ibiza Cupra with the 210 conversion from Amethyst which includes a Forge Dump valve. Bill, Swinny what do you think of Steves comments? Is it possible?
Ben
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The 210 conversion does not include an air filter, so this should'nt be the problem. RSD do not advise changing the air filter as the stock one works.
Are you going back to Amethyst Saturday?
Keep us advised.
PSS9's fitted now by the way. Review coming shortly.
regards
bill
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http://www.badger5.co.uk
Standard alarm, no air filter etc. Only additional stereo equiptment is the 6x9s but they are being run by the standard amp.
Bill, yes I'm going to Amethyst tommorow.
I believe you and some of the Amethyst guys are off to Castle Combe... let me know if the new PSS9s are much better round the track.
BTW, what settings are you running the PSS9s on? Do your 7.5" wide wheels still fit?
I'll let you know how I get on at Amethyst tommorow...
Ben
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ibizacupra
12-10-2001, 14:15
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by BenS1:
Standard alarm, no air filter etc. Only additional stereo equiptment is the 6x9s but they are being run by the standard amp.
Bill, yes I'm going to Amethyst tommorow.
I believe you and some of the Amethyst guys are off to Castle Combe... let me know if the new PSS9s are much better round the track.
BTW, what settings are you running the PSS9s on? Do your 7.5" wide wheels still fit?
I'll let you know how I get on at Amethyst tommorow...
Ben
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The wheels fit a treat with +10mm spacers each rear also, going to go +20mm as there is still room (just)
Setting still being adjusted to suit my preference.
Rears on 7 fronts on 5, ride height still being determined, but is nose down.
I will post my settings when done.
If you get a mo, come by Castle Combe saturday on your way home, its not far out of the way.
regards
bill
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http://www.badger5.co.uk
chungster
12-10-2001, 19:29
Ben,
OK, can you run the car WITHOUT THE STEREO ON.....and see if the "flatspot" occurs.
Then, run the car with the STEREO cranked up to what you normally have, and tell me if there's any difference!
Thanks
Lee
PS: Might see you at Castle Combe then!!
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ibizacupra
14-10-2001, 20:18
Hi Ben.
Sorry i did'nt get to speak with you much on Saturday at Combe.... a bit preoccupied... :rolleyes:
Did you get anything sorted out about your power problem?
Your motor is still going to be tight.... It seems like the 1.8T motors must have a few 1000 miles on them before they settle down.
You should get a boost guage fitted to see whether the boost is dropping off during your flatspot moments. It all helps diagnose things much better, and is quite revealing to have too!
Let us know how you're getting on.
all the best
Bill
No problem, I couldn't hang around at Combe too long anyway... just stayed for a few races and had to go.
I wouldn't mind getting a boost guage fitted... Neil at Amethyst was going to give me a price on Saturday but he (And me) forgot.
As for the power problem:-
Put the car on the computer and no faults had been logged,
Took an engineer out in the car to see if I could demonstrate the problem but with no luck (The car hasn't done it for a few days now.),
They think it could be something to do with the cars Learning Program and should just go with time,
I have to admit that the problem hasn't appeared recently.
Fixed my other minor problems (Gaitor came loose etc).
I'll let you know if the problem comes back.
Ben