View Full Version : how to get you car to shine like never before ?, buy a pc
hi,some people on here were interested in the pc polisher i use, im posting this guide to help those people buy them, for those who dont know, the pc is a random orbit car polisher, it is used on your cars paint, windows, headlights, it gives amazing results safely, in fact they say the only way you will damage you car is by throwing it at you car.
FIRSTLY do you want your car to look like this below, i know its hard to believe but you can see which part of the car has been polished with the pc and which part hasnt (pic provided by wd pro, link below)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/182_blue/various/Wing-InsideMasked4.jpg
all underlined writing contains clickable links
please read this link, it shows what a pc machine can do, this work was done by wd pro.
clicky (http://autopia.org/forums/showthread.php?threadid=49460)
Right go here to buy
CLICKY (http://store.yahoo.com/cgi-bin/clink?autopia+te6Zmk+index.html+CLIOSPORT)
you can also get cloths, wax etc from them
here you can buy the pc polisher kit ( sonus pad polisher kit), i would buy an extra backing plate ( sonus 5" backing plate), and possibly some extra 6" das pads
the shipping will be aprox $60, but that will be very quickly delivered to you (in aprox 3 days), ask them help you with import duties you should not pay import duties if they mark the parcel correctly, also whilst your at it you can use your special discount code (ABC) overwriting any code already there, any problems pm me
then sit back an wait for you pc to come.
whils waiting for your pc you will need a 110v transformer, extension, and plug, this can be bought from screwfix (clickable links )
transformer (http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp?id=73851&ts=82323) £34.99
extension (http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp;jsessionid=3MCV1DICZB4H3CJO2C1SIIQ?id=16691&slotName=null&homeRef=&ts=82329&destination=../cat/pro.jsp%3Fid%3D16691%26slotName%3Dnull%26homeRef%3D) £9.99
plug (http://www.screwfix.com/app/sfd/cat/pro.jsp;jsessionid=3MCV1DICZB4H3CJO2C1SIIQ?id=19947&slotName=null&homeRef=&ts=82498&destination=../cat/pro.jsp%3Fid%3D19947%26slotName%3Dnull%26homeRef%3D) £1.20
plus you get free shipping
when your pc comes you will need to cut of the usa 2 pin plug, you then need to put on the new plug (as above), american black is live, and white is neutral, there is no earth as the cable is double insulated, this is a very easy 2 minute job,so dont worry if you are at all woried about wiring please leave it to an expert
then you will need to buy yourself some polish/swirl remover, i personally chose meguiars #80 for general swirl removing (known as speed glaze), and #83 (known as dual action polish "DACP") for problem areas (be cautious with this as it has a strong cutting action), you can buy this from
serious performance (http://www.seriousperformance.co.uk/sp/products/polish_wax.php#16)
then you will need to do a bit of research on forums like
meguiars (http://shop.meguiars.co.uk/phpBB2/index.php?sid=c8ddb363ebfee4a7173b5d3553ca11ae)
http://autopia.org/forums/
you also should view this site clicky (http://bettercarcare.com/articles.php?articleId=47) for a full write up on the pc and its use.
here is a link clicky of a uk detailer also a member on here, WD PRO )who has used a pc on a car in the uk, he used megs #80 and #83, i think you will be amazed by his results, it gives you a good idea of whats possible with a pc
pics of the machine and pads
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/182_blue/DSCF0402.jpg" alt="Image hosted by Photobucket.com">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/182_blue/DSCF0404.jpg" alt="Image hosted by Photobucket.com">
<img src="http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/182_blue/DSCF0403.jpg" alt="Image hosted by Photobucket.com">
i hope this helps, please do a bit of research on the links, if you have any questions please feel free to pm me
autopia the company are brilliant, i cant recomend them more, ps im in the uk and dont own autopia LOL
JimmyCupra
03-04-2005, 10:29
Excellent right up. Is this product the same as the meguiars g100?
JimmyCupra
03-04-2005, 11:05
Sorry, I was refering to this :-
http://www.meguiars.com/store_meguiars/product_detailpage.cfm?sku=G-100&store=meg
Cheers
WatchHill
13-04-2005, 09:12
Interesting.
Any valeters got any comments?
Scotty_b
13-04-2005, 18:55
Im looking for somthing like this but its allot of kit to try and get hold off. I may just pay a valater to do it once every so often then keep it clean
Scotty_b
13-04-2005, 19:45
dam 200! bit expensive for what i wnat really. My car is ony 10 months old and swirls are minimal i just wanted to keep them away!
nice editing in photoshop for the above piccy
WatchHill
14-04-2005, 09:19
I hope you can understand our caution blue, you're a relatively new member and your zeal for this product is high - comes across a little like you have shares! No suprise surely that some of us want a second opinion from someone we know?
JimmyCupra
14-04-2005, 20:37
Looks great. What products did you use? #83, #80?
Scotty_b
21-04-2005, 08:29
Just got one from hellfrauds for £29.99. Might see if i can get some better heads for it tho
WatchHill
21-04-2005, 09:01
Just got one from hellfrauds for £29.99. Might see if i can get some better heads for it tho
Received wisdom is that the Halfords ones are a bit poo. Best of luck with it though!
Seeing as how I am gullible I have ordered one of the PC beasties.
Scotty_b
21-04-2005, 09:51
Well if i can get a good shine by hand im sure this is only going to make it better. Besides the other ones only differ in the fact taht you can adjust the speeds. Well i wouldnt know what speed to set it at anyway!
Scotty_b
21-04-2005, 09:55
Cheers
Scotty_b
23-04-2005, 13:09
Good boy, about time you left the va va voom to the girls! (i cant talk i went from clio to leon!)
Scotty_b
24-04-2005, 01:12
Nothen wrong with YELLOW!
Sooty torques
24-04-2005, 10:17
Top colour! :thumbup:
Mind you, everyone will hate you and drive like a tw@t when they see you in their rear-view mirror... and everyone (and his brother in a Ka) will try it on at the lights... :rolleyes:
Sorry dudes, i deleted my posts as someone complained about me spamming !!!??? LOL
Thats what you get for trying to help :confused: Some folk take it that wee bit too serious :(
Just got one from hellfrauds for £29.99. Might see if i can get some better heads for it tho
looked at these yesterday, have you used yours yet?
felt quite heavy in the box tho!
strange thread with only half the posts :confused:
dalepearson
27-04-2005, 11:11
I have been planning on getting the Meguairs cordless one for some time, just a matter of sparing with the cash. Still looking for a good deal.
Scotty_b
27-04-2005, 12:37
gives a lovely shine but that might just be the meguires i use!
cheers might give it a try then :)
I have been planning on getting the Meguairs cordless one for some time, just a matter of sparing with the cash. Still looking for a good deal.
hi, i really wouldnt buy the megs cordless, especially when for a little more you can get a pc, the megs cordless wont remove any marks
dalepearson
27-04-2005, 17:59
hi, i really wouldnt buy the megs cordless, especially when for a little more you can get a pc, the megs cordless wont remove any marks
Funny you should say that, i saw one of these in action today, was not impressed. PC or nothing it would seem. Another gadget to raise cash for.
Funny you should say that, i saw one of these in action today, was not impressed. PC or nothing it would seem. Another gadget to raise cash for.
yeh mate, the megs is ok for applying wax, nothing else, i have also heard stories of batteries only lasting 5 minutes too, the only nearest quality polisher to the PC is a £200+ pounds makita item, so the pc is really the only option at the moment :D
if you need any advice let me know, i will only be too pleased to help you
Scotty_b
27-04-2005, 18:18
Whats the main difference then? im trying to work out how they can be better? (Not trying to put it down just wondering)
Whats the main difference then? im trying to work out how they can be better? (Not trying to put it down just wondering)
well , the pc is a corded machine for starters, which means it has alot more power, it also has adustable power settings and is just generally a more robust machine,the megs polisher just does not have the power, and it gets bogged down easily
read up on the meguirs forum, even they dont like the megs machine, i asked this question a while back, check the response
http://shop.meguiars.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=861&highlight=car+automobile+polisher
the only good megs machine is the usa based megs g100, which is an expensive rebadged PC
Scotty_b
27-04-2005, 18:35
So basicly its just adjustable speed? (and the motor is better) Ignoring stuff like its mains etc
So basicly its just adjustable speed? (and the motor is better) Ignoring stuff like its mains etc
well very basically yes, but the cordless just does not have ther power, if you want a cordless there are £30 ones that are basically the rebadged megs cordless's
this is the same model as the megs one http://www.motor-world.co.uk/kroozin/category.php?sub_cat_id=414&psupp=122
but again only has enough power to apply wax, it will not improve the paints surface
WatchHill
27-04-2005, 20:20
Fired up my PC yesterday.
Rain stopped play just as I was applying the paint sealant :thumbd:
(Klasse AIO) really knackered it up. Ended up finishing off with two towels, one to dry and t'other to buff off.
I've still got a little bit of minor marring left but this is more to do with my product than the machine.
Thoughts on the machine:
Does what it says on the tin and is a sight less grief than hand polishing.
Vibration a bit too much on the hands - wouldn't like to be using one as a professional detailer.
Lugging around the 110v transformer gets real old real quick.
Useless for buffing off my Swissol Concorso, pad was loaded with product after maybe 1/3 of the car so I just used a microfibre to get the gunk off.
A lotta cash for something I probably won't use more than maybe 3 or four times a year, but has certainly made pre-wax treatments less of a chore.
well my recomendations would be megs #83 followed by megs #80, then topped of with NXT tech wax, you can finsih of with megs #16, i would remove the products with a quality microfibre anyway not the pc
I've just ordered all the stuff from the first links you listed (Sonus DAS polisher kit, transformer, etc.) - looking forward to getting the PC7424 now, your discount was very welcome too!
Scotty_b
27-04-2005, 23:53
How Much All In Was It?
I've just ordered all the stuff from the first links you listed (Sonus DAS polisher kit, transformer, etc.) - looking forward to getting the PC7424 now, your discount was very welcome too!
hehe, you wont be dissapointed, what polish are you ordering ?, if you need any advice just ask
scott, the pc kit with postage,+ extra pads etc, less discount will come to about £140 iirc
$247.95 shipped - £130.34. Plus the transformer etc. from Screwfix was £46.14 delivered, so £176.48 all together. Autopia were cool about marking the package appropriately to avoid any import duty.
I went for the polisher kit which includes lots of polishing heads, bonnets, etc., you can buy less than that if you wish, but the bundled kit seemed very good.
I already have lots of Meguiars and Swissol polishes and wax.
Scotty_b
28-04-2005, 08:22
Dam i really in two minds now. I want to go halfs with someone as i will only use it say 4 times a year!
$247.95 shipped - £130.34. Plus the transformer etc. from Screwfix was £46.14 delivered, so £176.48 all together. Autopia were cool about marking the package appropriately to avoid any import duty.
I went for the polisher kit which includes lots of polishing heads, bonnets, etc., you can buy less than that if you wish, but the bundled kit seemed very good.
I already have lots of Meguiars and Swissol polishes and wax.
cool, i do recommend megs #83 followed ny megs #80 for swirl removal tho, there an excellent combination
Dam i really in two minds now. I want to go halfs with someone as i will only use it say 4 times a year!
ahh but if you only use 4 times a year, you will still have the machine for years to come, it can also be used for polishing wood /sanding etc etc, you will also find you use it for spot cleaning and scratch removal, so you will probably use it more than that
Scotty_b
28-04-2005, 08:30
No if i have scratches etc i will take it to someone who knwos what there doing!
It will only be used on the car. I have sanders and grinders for other jobs, it just worrys me that there identicle!
lol, i give up trying to convince you.
i love my cars and wouldnt do anything to them that would damage them, hence i wouldnt use any machine on it unless i completely trusted it.
when i said scratches i meant micro scratches, and i can assure you your car will have loads of these on it.
the pc is a very good machine, but if you have doubts just dont buy one, its easy ;-)
i have tried all sorts on my cars for years and years, and i have always been fairly happy with the results, but when i tried the pc i realised what i had been missing for all those years, the pc gives a depth of of clarity you wouldnt believe, it also gives your car an amazing reflection and shine
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/182blue/149.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/182blue/11.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/182blue/24.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/182blue/45451.jpg
WatchHill
28-04-2005, 09:20
The single biggest factor in improving the gloss and reflection on my car came from using a paint sealant followed by the wax. A vast difference in shine compared to just using wax.
I've always been into polishing my cars, I've known the Porter Cable machine to be the best one by a long shot, so this will be a wise long-term investment for me. If I can achieve the following results by hand, imagine what the PC will do for me (and with less elbow grease):
http://www.20v-turbo.co.uk/images/misc/shiny1.jpg
http://www.20v-turbo.co.uk/images/misc/shiny3.jpg
http://www.20v-turbo.co.uk/images/mods2/2305_02.jpg
Bring on the machine! :D
The single biggest factor in improving the gloss and reflection on my car came from using a paint sealant followed by the wax. A vast difference in shine compared to just using wax.
well before i bought the pc i used to :-
wash (2 bucket method)
clay
wash
dry with waffle towel
clean/polish the paint with a quality glaze (usually clearkote handglaze)
seal (usually with poorboys exp)
nxt tech wax
then top of with 2 coats of high quality carnuna wax.
that provided me with good results, but with the pc i :-
wash (2 bucket)
clay whilst washing
dry
apply megs #83 (not neccesary unless your paint is in bad condition)
apply megs #80
apply megs nxt tech wax
apply megs #16
i dont do this everytime, its probably 4 times a year at the most, but i just top up with the #16, i can honestly say that the car looks the best that it ever has after the pc :thumbup:
robdon, brilliant work there, very impressive for hand work that, just imagine what the pc will do for you, the dark blue will come up amazing with the megs products i talk about above
Scotty_b
28-04-2005, 09:36
Dont give up as im trying to convince myself!
One thing my yellow car gets dirty very quickly so i end up cleaning it every weekend!
Would this unit take out tar spots etc? as i have tiny black marks all over the place!
Dont give up as im trying to convince myself!
One thing my yellow car gets dirty very quickly so i end up cleaning it every weekend!
Would this unit take out tar spots etc? as i have tiny black marks all over the place!
lol :D ,well i have not tried a pc on a yellow car, but i will be getting my cupra next week so i will let you know.
what you need to remove your black marks is either "clay" or a bug remover, i would use something like meguiars clay, brilliant at removing marks like you talk about, the pc will remove the marks but clay will do it too.
having your car properly polsihed and sealed and waxed will of course not stop you getting these marks, but it will be alot easier to remove them, my racing blue is similar, as its light coloured, it used to be a pain to remove marks on it until i got some proper wax on it
Scotty_b
28-04-2005, 11:51
I take it your cupras second hand? be good to se some before and after pics of the paint work to persuade me!
In the mean time i will get some clay i think as i have been meaning to for a while, just not got round to getting it!
no my cupra is new, but it will still look better when its been pc'ed
Scotty_b
28-04-2005, 12:31
ok i will wait on pics before i buy!
WatchHill
28-04-2005, 14:27
In the mean time i will get some clay i think as i have been meaning to for a while, just not got round to getting it!
Go for it. Makes getting those black bits off much easier.
This chap (http://www.seriousperformance.co.uk/sp/products/maintenance.php) seems to be selling 3M clay as his own brand but you can apparently get it from a lot of motor factors. Clay bar is much of a similarness, but you want to be buying some detailing spray to act as a lube.
Go for it. Makes getting those black bits off much easier.
This chap (http://www.seriousperformance.co.uk/sp/products/maintenance.php) seems to be selling 3M clay as his own brand but you can apparently get it from a lot of motor factors. Clay bar is much of a similarness, but you want to be buying some detailing spray to act as a lube.
the serious clay above has a slight cutting action, and can dull your paint, it does buff up very nice though after a polish.
the megs one is nice and mild and doesnt marr the paint, you can use some car shampoo mixed up with water in a spritz bottle as lube
Screwfix are fast! They emailed me to say my order was packed and shipped by 7AM this morning! I use the Meguiars clay bar, seems to work fine for me, although I do have the Swissol clay bar kit too (paint rubber set they call it).
Screwfix are fast! They emailed me to say my order was packed and shipped by 7AM this morning! I use the Meguiars clay bar, seems to work fine for me, although I do have the Swissol clay bar kit too (paint rubber set they call it).
robdon, were do you get your swissol from
Scotty_b
28-04-2005, 14:51
whats best swissol or meguires clay?
John Wintle is doing stuff at group buy prices just now, was on the UKMKIV forums before they went down. Had stuff from the infamous 'Wax Wizard' before too!
Scotty_b
28-04-2005, 14:53
what kind of stuff?
Most Swissol stuff, I just got Shield wax and a wheel wax kit from him. Email him on: swissol.sales@blueyonder.co.uk, his name is John Wintle. He's a nice guy, I ordered my stuff from him via PayPal on Sunday, got it Tuesday, 20% discount I think it was.
I've only used the Megs clay bar so far, so cannot say which is better - I only really clay my car twice a year.
Tony Spears sells it on here too: http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=129
WatchHill
28-04-2005, 15:45
I've got the Swissol bar. It is good at the job but I find it a little..... chewing gummy?
ahh thx for that link chap
Where do you get your Meguiars #80, 82, etc.?
Where do you get your Meguiars #80, 82, etc.?
i get it from alex at http://www.seriousperformance.co.uk/sp/products/polish_wax.php#16
he doesnt charge shipping and gives us cliosporters discount too
ps the megs 83 & 80 arent on his site, you need to download his order form
the only problem is you cant buy online, its either cheque or phone
been following this and am really tempted, i've got an onvi (yellow) ibiza and have just spent a few hrs buffing it up (que bad back again!).although it shines and you can tell its been polished im yet to see a yellow car that gives as good a reflection as a blue or black car, anyone got any pictures of one?
tried everything to get the little black specs off, i think you said "clay" would do this easy? going to order some,any "must do's" when using it, other than i persume keep wet :thumbup:
WatchHill
29-04-2005, 15:38
Clay is straightforward to use. Make sure your surface is clean (ie just washed), keep the surface lubed and turn every so often to keep a clean bit of clay sunny side up. If you get any bits of crap in your clay you can pick them out but if you drop it then just throw it - not worth the risk.
been following this and am really tempted, i've got an onvi (yellow) ibiza and have just spent a few hrs buffing it up (que bad back again!).although it shines and you can tell its been polished im yet to see a yellow car that gives as good a reflection as a blue or black car, anyone got any pictures of one?
tried everything to get the little black specs off, i think you said "clay" would do this easy? going to order some,any "must do's" when using it, other than i persume keep wet :thumbup:
hey clay will get the black marks off, if not try meguiars scratch x.
you will always struggle to get a light car to look as shiny as a dark car, because you wont get a proper reflection, your ovni is also a flat colour (non metallic) so this makes it harder too as it wont look as "deep", but this does not mean you cant make your car shine, you will be able to make it look amazing with the right products, when i get my ibiza i will post up some proper shiny pictures :thumbup:
Clay is straightforward to use. Make sure your surface is clean (ie just washed), keep the surface lubed and turn every so often to keep a clean bit of clay sunny side up. If you get any bits of crap in your clay you can pick them out but if you drop it then just throw it - not worth the risk.
good guide, the only thing i would say is perhaps cut your clay bar in half, this way if you do drop it you only ruin half, also you can use old clay dars for removing brake dust from alloys ;)
JimmyCupra
29-04-2005, 19:35
I use old clay on the windows too
OOH, YES forgot the windows, although i use my pc on the windows, it leaves them unbeliavable
WatchHill
30-04-2005, 17:17
the only thing i would say is perhaps cut your clay bar in half, this way if you do drop it you only ruin half
Definitely. In fact I normally use much less than half, more like a quarter. Basically as little as I can get away with without it being too fiddly = more likely to drop.
WatchHill
30-04-2005, 17:18
OOH, YES forgot the windows, although i use my pc on the windows, it leaves them unbeliavable
Which product/pad combo?
hey, i use autoglym window polish, and the crappy white pad that comes with the pc, if not that then the orange/ or green sonus pad
I also use Autoglym Fast Glass, then Autoglym glass polish, microfibre cloths.
My pc has been despatched by Autopia - woohoo! :D
good news chap, what polishes you planning on using ?
I am open to whatever is best, got lots of stuff here like Megs NXT, Swissol Shield wax, etc.
you got any slight swirling ?
Scotty_b
01-05-2005, 19:23
used the clay bar but didnt think much off it as all the spots are still there
WatchHill
01-05-2005, 20:22
used the clay bar but didnt think much off it as all the spots are still there
Summat amiss there mate, clay is usually the business with the black spots.
Scotty_b
01-05-2005, 22:13
The meguires one. I followed the instructions but i must be doing it wrong?
I clean the car, dryied it, put the mist on, then rubed the bar over and nothing it just slid over and the spots were still there?
how hard were you rubbing ?, and are you sure there not stone chips (sound daft but i know of people trying to remove stone chips thinking there bug marks)
The megs clay bar did not remove the tar spots on mine either, took off recent ones that were still soft but ones that had been on for a while had to be removed with petrol. Sounds extreme but works ok. :)
perhaps you need to soften them up first, autoglym bug remover is good
The last time I polished my Leon with Autoglym, I ended up with swirls everywhere - even when I tried to polish in straight lines. Is this common with the Seat paint?
i never use autoglym polish, but what did you apply and remove it with, also what do you wash and dry with
1) Rinse with cold water (hosepipe)
2) Wash with hot water and car shampoo
3) Rinse with cold water
4) Chamois with 'Autoglym' chamois.
This last time, I used an old duvet cover as a 'duster'.
1) Rinse with cold water (hosepipe)
2) Wash with hot water and car shampoo
3) Rinse with cold water
4) Chamois with 'Autoglym' chamois.
This last time, I used an old duvet cover as a 'duster'.
:-o er duvet cover is not good at all, that will have made the scratches, as a test rub your cloth on an old cd (silver side), and look at the marks it leaves, thats what it will do to your paint, also how hot is your water ?
my recomendations are :-
1. get a meguiars lambswool wash mit (never use any type of sponge)
2. dry the car with a waffle weave towel ( like http://www.pakshak.com/waffle-weave-micro-fiber-towel-25x36-1.html ), or the meguirs water magnet towel from here (http://www.meguiars.co.uk/)
3. get some microfibre wipes for removing polish
4. get some foam applicators to apply wax etc, or get some sponge microfibre applicators again from (http://www.meguiars.co.uk/)
5. apply some meguiars NXT tech wax to hide your present swirls (check this video http://www.meguiars.co.uk/Meg_Videos/TECH_WAX_300.wmv )
these steps should keep your swirls to a minimum
WatchHill
02-05-2005, 17:58
The megs clay bar did not remove the tar spots on mine either
I've never had a tar spot that Swissol clay won't shift.
I did think I might try megs next time, but I don't think I'll bother now.
WatchHill
02-05-2005, 18:01
There is a fellow on autopia.org that loves the Autoglym SRP, but I haven't used it since I went car cleaning bonkers.
Agree with Blue as regards the cleaning gear, but bear in mind - other cleaning products are available!
yeh agree theres loads of products available, i thought he wanted an easy option, thats why i suggested those, but i got and use, klasse, poorboys, megs, p21's, megs #18, megs #83, megs 80, megs nxt, zymol concours, clearkote, souveran, i have tried all sorts, the best shine i have achieved came from
megs #83
megs #80
megs nxt
topped of with megs #16
all applied with a pc
by hand i would do
clearkote hand glaze
poorboys exp
p21's wax or megs #83
Sooty torques
02-05-2005, 19:11
Don't think the missus will let me stretch to a PC :( so what's your basic regime when using the hand products you've listed?
Don't think the missus will let me stretch to a PC :( so what's your basic regime when using the hand products you've listed?
well by hand i would do
1. clearkote hand glaze
2. poorboys exp
3. p21's wax or megs #83
steps 1 & 2 say every 3-4 months, then every 2 weeks do step 3, but i wash in between too
WatchHill
02-05-2005, 20:24
Hey blue, what do you use to clean your mitt with?
Mines got a bit of brake dust residue on it that doesn't want to come off.
i usually use washing up liquid, just make sure you rinse it well, do you use the same mit to do your wheels that you use on your paint !!
cupra r kendle
02-05-2005, 20:32
i usually use washing up liquid, just make sure you rinse it well, do you use the same mit to do your wheels that you use on your paint !!
BIG NO NO (.same mit bit)for wheels, paint work
BIG NO NO (.same mit bit)for wheels, paint work
yeh thats what i was getting at
WatchHill
03-05-2005, 10:33
yeh thats what i was getting at
I'm not fagged. Always do my wheels last and they are never any grubbier than (usually less so) than the paint.
Scotty_b
03-05-2005, 10:41
Getting back to the thread. I have a megs waffel towel for drying and its cr4p leaves water everwhere and never seems to dry it properly!
Not having much luck with the clay and towls. The micro firbre polishing cloths are great tho but get clocked with polish too quickly
Woohoo ... everything arrived this morning, the Autopia kit and all the stuff from Screwfix, no extra duty to pay on the Autopia stuff as they marked the box with a value of $25 - nice one! :D
WatchHill
03-05-2005, 20:17
Not having much luck with the clay and towls. The micro firbre polishing cloths are great tho but get clocked with polish too quickly
Maybe you're putting too much product on?
I find one MF easily enough to buff-off the whole car.
Scotty_b
03-05-2005, 20:34
Ow yeah one doe3s it just seems to be very soiled after thats all
Scotty_b
03-05-2005, 20:35
Ow and can i ask how does the paint sealer work/what does it do as etc? as people keep saying its good but do i need to get rid of my swirls first?
Woohoo ... everything arrived this morning, the Autopia kit and all the stuff from Screwfix, no extra duty to pay on the Autopia stuff as they marked the box with a value of $25 - nice one! :D
excellent chap, you tried it yet ?, i get my cupra tomorrow so i will be giving mine another go soon.
ps whats up with the 2 spammmers !!!, can a mod remove all the crap
JimmyCupra
03-05-2005, 20:46
Blue I see you've used #16 ontop of NXT im guessing. Have you tried the p21s after #83, #80?
hey, i have tried p21 after clearkote and poorboys by hand, but not after #83 and #80, its a nice wax, but its nothing to special IMHO
if you two(assman, kwattro)post another 40 posts of shit again I'll just be done with it & ban you.
Topic cleaned up again!
Back on topic please or topic closed and posters banned.
Assman/Kwattro: In four or five years I've never had 4 reported posts and 2 complaints all from different people on one topic! Learn to use the forum properly and take your idol comments offline. Apologies accepted, dont do it again.
Back to the topic.....
Topic cleaned up again!
Back on topic please or topic closed and posters banned.
Assman/Kwattro: In four or five years I've never had 4 reported posts and 2 complaints all from different people on one topic! Learn to use the forum properly and take your idol comments offline. Apologies accepted, dont do it again.
Back to the topic.....
thx again, and i am sorry i responded to them :)
ps JimmyCupra20vt , here is a couple of pictures of my car after #16
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/182blue/24.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/182blue/11.jpg
Icecavern
04-05-2005, 08:26
You guys do realise that the PC polisher is just a random orbital sander with a polishing pads right? Even argos sells a RO sander for £30 ;)
Oh and any UK Stockist of Porta Cable ( there are a few in the UK ) could get you a 240v version of that sander.
Pete
You guys do realise that the PC polisher is just a random orbital sander with a polishing pads right? Even argos sells a RO sander for £30 ;)
Oh and any UK Stockist of Porta Cable ( there are a few in the UK ) could get you a 240v version of that sander.
Pete
right, the pc is a random orbital polisher, but it has been used by car detailers for years , it is far superior to any of the cheap random orbit machines you talk about (the only exception is the makita at £240), and works at varaible speeds, it does not heat the paint up. these are the only 2 random orbital machines that i would use on my paint.
oh and no uk stockist of porter cable can get a 240v version of the pc 7424, as there has never been a 240v version made,and they dont sell such machine in the uk market. believe me i tried (check for yourself http://www.porter-cable.uk.com/index.asp )
i havnt made all the above info up !its all tried and tested
Icecavern
04-05-2005, 10:03
There used to be a 240v version of the orbital sander/polisher, didn't know they'd discontinued it. I know a sprayer that uses a matika but he told me that any RO sander will do the job as long as you can get the polisher pads or attachments to fit it.
Heating the paint will happen if you hold the PC one in the same place too long just like any other make. You just need variable speed, which even the cheapest RO should have.
I'm not disputing the Porta cable is good, because all Porta Cable products last forever, if I was using it every day I would buy a Porta Cable without a doubt, but for someone who might use it twice a year it's possibly a bit overkill IMO.
Pete
There used to be a 240v version of the orbital sander/polisher, didn't know they'd discontinued it. I know a sprayer that uses a matika but he told me that any RO sander will do the job as long as you can get the polisher pads or attachments to fit it.
Heating the paint will happen if you hold the PC one in the same place too long just like any other make. You just need variable speed, which even the cheapest RO should have.
I'm not disputing the Porta cable is good, because all Porta Cable products last forever, if I was using it every day I would buy a Porta Cable without a doubt, but for someone who might use it twice a year it's possibly a bit overkill IMO.
Pete
i have held my pc against an old panel, i held it against it for 5 minutes in the same place, and the paint did not get hot, i colud of done it longer but i got bored , this may be the same for other RO machines but i still would only use this machine on my car
Scotty_b
04-05-2005, 13:03
I just dont like the name polisher/sander! Makes me very nervous!
The hellfruads one is great at putting the stuff on and taking the excess off but i still need to get it off with th MF cloth.
Im going to see a sprayer mate of mine to see if he has an old one i can have or weather he can get me trade prices on one
I just dont like the name polisher/sander! Makes me very nervous!
The hellfruads one is great at putting the stuff on and taking the excess off but i still need to get it off with th MF cloth.
Im going to see a sprayer mate of mine to see if he has an old one i can have or weather he can get me trade prices on one
ah well, if you have a mate in the business then he will probably do it for you, as they use orbital polishers, dangerous for begginers, but ok for pros, they work quicker than random orbit ones (this is what makes the orbital nones dangerous)
Icecavern
04-05-2005, 15:38
Using a RO or a pro polisher has the same risks, heating up the paintwork causing damage, contaminants between the paint and the polisher causing damage, etc etc. THe problem is if you get a bit of crap on a cloth hand polishing you'll see and hear the problem and stop, with a powered device you'll probably not notice until it's too late.
Scott, an orbital ( or random orbital ) polisher is exactly the same but with a polishing pad except a sanding disc really.
TBH I wouldn't go near my R with a polisher, it's too risky.
Pete
JimmyCupra
04-05-2005, 16:35
ps JimmyCupra20vt , here is a couple of pictures of my car after #16
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/182blue/24.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/182blue/11.jpg
Reflections look awesome mate. #16 by hand or PC?
that was by hand mate, and its a difficult car to get a reflection on
Scotty_b
04-05-2005, 18:41
Ok who wnats to come round and do mine then!
Sooty torques
04-05-2005, 19:21
Ok who wnats to come round and do mine then!
Get in the queue! :thumbd:
:D I wish....
Scotty_b
04-05-2005, 19:25
Dam the fella wasnt as good afriend than i thought! when i was there i asked about getting the stone chips done and he wnated 200 to do the bonnet!
hehe, got my baby
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/182_blue/gg2.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/182_blue/DSCF0413.jpg
JimmyCupra
04-05-2005, 20:09
V.nice mate. Wheel issue though?
yeh not sure if its normal or not, the back wheels appear to point inwards, and seem to sit uneven on the road, but i just looked at neighbours car and theres is very simillar, i may just nip in back and ask them
oh and the wifes just got in and hers is worse than mine
Scotty_b
04-05-2005, 20:19
Ok out come sthe polish then!
On ething about swirl show comes there visable in some lights but not others?
swirls show up worse under strip lights and direct sunlight, not sure why but it does
Scotty_b
04-05-2005, 22:38
That seemd the case, in dull lights and street lights nothing but in the sunshine there they are! Thought id cracked it too!
Dam the fella wasnt as good afriend than i thought! when i was there i asked about getting the stone chips done and he wnated 200 to do the bonnet!
I was quoted over 300 for my bonnet by the local stealer :thumbd:
Scotty_b
04-05-2005, 23:06
Yeah mates rates tho, considering mines solid and he painted a metalic car (one whole side) for 250!
That seemd the case, in dull lights and street lights nothing but in the sunshine there they are! Thought id cracked it too!
its worse when you go to an underground carpark with lots of lighting, you spot marks and imperfections that you never see in normal conditions
heres my new baby cleaned a bit (not with the pc yet)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/182_blue/qw14.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/182_blue/qw3.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/182_blue/qw13.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y8/182_blue/qw9.jpg
cool just needs the bump stripes spraying
thx, what do the bump strips look like painted
soooo much better colour coded. you could ask mork to post pics of his missus mk3 ibiza cupra with painted ones (its ovni too)
im trying to find pics but cant see any
dalepearson
15-05-2005, 21:56
Didnt someone post a link on here to where to get these type of pads in the UK?
soooo much better colour coded. you could ask mork to post pics of his missus mk3 ibiza cupra with painted ones (its ovni too)
http://www.seatcupra.net/m0rk/lorna.jpg
What is Megs #83, it's not even listed on the Meguiars site? I'm about to start using the PC and want to get organised with what I'm going to use with it.
dalepearson
15-05-2005, 23:20
What is Megs #83, it's not even listed on the Meguiars site? I'm about to start using the PC and want to get organised with what I'm going to use with it.
Dual Action Cleaner / Polish.
http://www.seatcupra.net/m0rk/lorna.jpg
better late than never hehe
(you mean u dont read EVERY post? :bleh: :bleh: :bleh: )
What is Megs #83, it's not even listed on the Meguiars site? I'm about to start using the PC and want to get organised with what I'm going to use with it.
its not listed on the site but they do sell it, you can also buy it from alex at http://www.seriousperformance.co.uk/ , you can also get the pads from him too (meguirs ones though)
Spoke with Alex and placing an order for some stuff to get started with, he recommended Poorboy's SSR2 for fine swirl and scratch removal with the PC. Getting some Clearkote stuff too.
cool, i must try the ssr2, i stick with the megs #83 and #80 as i know it works, you will have to let me know what its like
WatchHill
16-05-2005, 16:47
I've just ordered some SSR-2 off Alex as well. Bit of an arse to get hold of him, I assume it's a sideline for him but he really needs to get online ordering sorted.
alex has a full time job, this is sort of a hobby for him, cant knock him with the free p&p, but like you said if he had online ordering im sure he would get more orders, but its expesnive to set up, you can pay him via paypal and online banking though
Here's the kit I got from Autopia:
http://www.20v-turbo.co.uk/images/misc/pc1.jpg
http://www.20v-turbo.co.uk/images/misc/pc2.jpg
Hoping to start using it very soon! :D
WatchHill
17-05-2005, 09:35
alex has a full time job, this is sort of a hobby for him, cant knock him with the free p&p, but like you said if he had online ordering im sure he would get more orders, but its expesnive to set up, you can pay him via paypal and online banking though
Alex must be losing a shedload of orders through not having online ordering, I very nearly bought my stuff from the states and probably would have done if I hadn't caught Rob's post and thought I'd try to get hold of him again.
I reckon if it was his sole source of income he'd have a full online shop etc.. I've sent my order to him today, I don't mind sending a cheque and waiting for the stuff.
yeh i can wait to, i just tend to stock up, i get 10% off too, do you guys get discount from here ??
No mention of discount from Alex when I emailed him, I dropped your name too?
No mention of discount from Alex when I emailed him, I dropped your name too?
ahh, it was just a thought, i get 10% for being a cliosport member, perhaps he could sort out discount for us too, perhaps the forum mods could ask him ?
Got my stuff from Alex today, fast service and well packed - no complaints! Hoping for nice weather tomorrow to have my first go with the PC!
WatchHill
20-05-2005, 12:42
That SSR2 smells lush!
Certainly does! Even the Poorboy's tyre dressing smells like coconut!
dalepearson
20-05-2005, 16:02
Rob have you tried it yet then?
What did you order from Alex in the end? I see you should get some discount if over £50.00
yeah can someone post a concise list of exactly what needs to be order. this thread is confusing to read as so much of blues stuff was deleted (by blue)
Hoping to try it tomorrow. I ordered some Poorboy's SSR2 (super swirl remover), bold 'n' bright tyre dressing (hate the Megs goopy stuff!) and a couple of Clearkote quick shine. I already have plenty of Megs and Swissol wax etc.
I asked Alex to recommend stuff to me for various tasks.
dalepearson
20-05-2005, 16:31
Let us know how you get on. I cant find on his site where to download the PDF from though
http://www.seriousperformance.co.uk/sp/pricelist_100405.pdf
Sorry if its been asked already but would it be possable to give me a list of the stuff i need to get those finishes i need every think, spounges drying cloths the lot as i have a miss match of crap polishes
all by hand at the mo as i havent got the funds at the mo
i have slight swirl marks to get rid of
thanks all
All depends how far you want to go, whether you want individual products or a quicker all in one.
Apparently Klasse all-in-one is awesome stuff, cleans and removes swirls then polishes and protects the paint with an acrylic wax sealant that lasts 4-8 months! £20 a bottle. I've ordered some from Alex, so I'll tell you what it's like but Alex says it is amazing stuff, also the Klasse sealant glaze is said to offer protection for a year!
http://autopia-carcare.com/kus-kla-10.html
"Klasse High Gloss Sealant Glaze car wax is a companion product to Klasse All-In-One that builds finish depth, gloss and clarity. High Gloss Sealant Glaze is an optional step used by car *********** and show car owners to create award-winning paint finishes.
Containing the pure Klasse acrylic protection formula (no cleaners or polishes), High Gloss Glaze car wax provides protection and finish enhancement over a base coat of Klasse All-In-One. It's like special effects for your car! With each coat the gloss and depth of your paint finish will increase. I know guys that have applied 20 to 40 coats of Klasse High Gloss Glaze, and the results are amazing."
Clearkote Quik Shine is an awesome product too, I tried it for the first time on my car and it is amazing stuff!
Scotty_b
23-05-2005, 21:32
Do you need a polisher for that or can it be done by hand?
Scotty_b
23-05-2005, 21:37
Can you buy it in any shops? I want the swirls out of my car but im too tight to pay for the polisher as its costing me over 200 to get the bonnet resprayed!
Nope, Alex is the only place I've found it in the UK, same for many things he stocks.
Scotty_b
23-05-2005, 21:48
Might have a look at some of his stuff then. Did you list his web page down or just that pdf order form?
http://www.seriousperformance.co.uk/
If you want any guides on how to remove swirl marks, polish your car, etc. then read the guides on Autopia, you can download a whole detailing guide:
http://autopia-carcare.com/freeguide.html
http://autopia-carcare.com/how-to.html
Scotty_b
23-05-2005, 21:54
cheers
WatchHill
24-05-2005, 08:58
AIO is a good product, but not really enough to move anything but the lightest of swirl marks.
You want a seperate product targeted at removing swirls and minor scratching.
I have AIO on my car and there are a number of swirl marks on it now that weren't there prior to using the PC on it.
Scotty_b
24-05-2005, 09:01
I was thinking of using the Scratch X stuff from meguires (spelling?)
I was also considering getting the buffer from them too as i can get it for just under £75
I was thinking of using the Scratch X stuff from meguires (spelling?)
I was also considering getting the buffer from them too as i can get it for just under £75
scratch x followed by a decent sealer is a good choice
The Meguiars battery buffer is a joke, the batteries last about 5 mins at the most. I tried one and couldn't even buff the bonnet without the battery dying!
Scotty_b
24-05-2005, 15:58
I thought that may be the case, i have been looking at a few profesional ones on ebay that look good for around £40. What type of speed settings does the PC have?
dalepearson
24-05-2005, 16:11
PC has 6 speed settings. I have seen the ones you are referring too on ebay. But for peace of mind I prefer to get the PC as its known to give good results and safe.
Scotty_b
24-05-2005, 17:26
Just want to know what the speeds are roughly as, ok there cheap copies and not as well built but then you dont pay as much. Just have to be as carful with this as with the PC
brill thanks will order some 2moro ;)
Be careful though, as the £40 buffers are not RANDOM orbital buffers, just orbital like a sander and these are the ones that will burn your paint if you're not very, very careful.
I WOULD NEVER EVER USE A ORBITAL ON YOUR PAINT, UNLESS YOU KNOW WHAT YOUR DOING, the pc is good for a reason, the closest thing in the uk is a makita and costs you £200 where the pc is $150 (£80), there is no shortcut im affraid, many have tried and have failed, check this link of the work of a fairly new pc owner http://forum.cliosport.net/display_topic_threads.asp?ForumID=13&TopicID=161840&PagePosition=2
ps, anyone buying from autopia please pm me for latest discount code
Scotty_b
24-05-2005, 20:13
hang on 80 notes for the PC you said 200 ish!
hang on 80 notes for the PC you said 200 ish!
the machine on its own is $150, which is £80
Scotty_b
24-05-2005, 20:50
HMMM i thought it was 150 gbp!
nah, its 150 us dollars for the pc on its own+ of course shipping
Scotty_b
24-05-2005, 21:09
Ow hang on plus shipping plus inverter etc? so about 150 in the end?
lol, i did say on its own, shipping is about £25, and transformers can be bought for £10 on a carboot
Scotty_b
24-05-2005, 21:57
[QUOTE=RobDon]$247.95 shipped - £130.34. Plus the transformer etc. from Screwfix was £46.14 delivered, so £176.48 all together. Autopia were cool about marking the package appropriately to avoid any import duty.
QUOTE]
This was the one!
Scotty_b
24-05-2005, 22:04
what version makita? i can geta 6 speed version, that any good?
[QUOTE=RobDon]$247.95 shipped - £130.34. Plus the transformer etc. from Screwfix was £46.14 delivered, so £176.48 all together. Autopia were cool about marking the package appropriately to avoid any import duty.
QUOTE]
This was the one!
yeh i did say £80 for the pc alone, the £176 is for the pc kit, with pads etc ($50 extra) and the screwfix transformer/ extension
Scotty_b
24-05-2005, 22:08
Can you but the pads on there own and are they metric?
just done a check on cost, and here is the result
Sonus Dual-Action System Foam Pads: Sonus DAS Polisher Kit $189.95
Subtotal: $189.95
Coupon offer (15% savings): -$28.49
Subtotal: $161.46
Shipping: $52.00
Tax: 0.00
Total: $213.46
£116 in uk pounds (this is for the pad set pc)
Can you but the pads on there own and are they metric?
yeh pads are available on there own, autopia do them, and meguiars do a version that is available in the uk
Scotty_b
24-05-2005, 22:19
Ok, im going to se eif i can getthis matika one and if not i will go for that!
dalepearson
24-05-2005, 22:56
Dad just got back from the States, straight around to collect my PC and pads. Got home and wired it all up. It makes more noise than i expected. Weird to see the way it wiggles around at startup.
Are people using the spacer with the velcro backing plate?
Ok, im going to se eif i can getthis matika one and if not i will go for that!
lol, ok, why is it you dont want to get a pc ?
Scotty_b
25-05-2005, 10:27
Cost! Makita is 50 notes second hand!
dalepearson
25-05-2005, 19:16
Decided to try out my PC on the roof of my GF 10 year old Fiat. Good results, I am new to it of course so sure it will improve. Certainly a faster process.
http://www.blackpole.eclipse.co.uk/pc.jpg
Scotty_b
26-05-2005, 11:06
Whats the coupon number etc? as im going to order one!
dalepearson
26-05-2005, 11:16
Whats the coupon number etc? as im going to order one!
Ha ha didnt resist for long then :)
Scotty_b
26-05-2005, 19:55
I was convinced!
did you get my pm, have you ordered yet ?
Scotty_b
27-05-2005, 09:48
Not ordered it yet, going to do it in the next few days
ahh, well let me know if you want any help with what to order etc
I washed my car today and use the Poorboy's 'bold 'n' bright' tyre dressing for the first time - this stuff is great! I hated the Meguiars tyre gel because it was very messy and dirt just stuck to the gel, made the tyre look too artificial too.
Poorboy's gives a very nice natural satin sheen to the tyre, actually cleans dirt off as you apply it, smells like coconut and dries to the touch, not greasy at all - a joy to use! Looks like this once on:
http://www.20v-turbo.co.uk/images/detailing/shin1.jpg
Out of 10 I'd give it an easy 10 - miles better than any other tyre dressing I've tried before.
http://www.poorboysworld.com/bold-bright.htm
http://www.poorboysworld.com/products/BoldBright_pint_32oz.jpg
Serious Performance sell it for £7.49 including delivery. My detailing supplies are rapidly becoming all Clearkote, Poorboy's and Klasse - awesome stuff (most of it can all be applied in direct sunlight too)!
http://www.seriousperformance.co.uk/
I also used Clearkote Quik Shine today too, after washing and drying my car I used the QS over the entire car, didn't take long at all, came up like this:
http://www.20v-turbo.co.uk/images/detailing/shin2.jpg
This shine is NOT using Swissol, the products I used (by hand) to achieve this shine were (in order of application):
1. Meguiars NXT shampoo
2. Meguiars paint cleaner
3. Meguiars NXT Tech Wax
4. Turtlewax Gloss Guard
5. Clearkote Quik Shine
;) :D
done my bumper/boot with the pc today, well happy with the results, although its hard to pick up from the photos
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/182blue/DSCF0439.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/182blue/DSCF0438.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/182blue/DSCF0444.jpg
Still haven't used my pc yet, will soon though.
yeh i struggle to find time, but i really like the finish, i did
sonus clay
megs #83
megs #80
nxt tech wax
2 x megs #16
its got a lovely deep finish
Keen to try it with the SSR2 on my bonnet soon, had a close look at it today and quite a few light scratches and marks on it.
Forgot to mention earlier that I used Meguiars clay bar on the paint before the cleaner.
Finally ... got the chance to use the PC on my car, and boy was it worth the wait! I used the Poorboy's SSR2 (super swirl remover) on the bonnet (applied with the PC, buffed off by hand), then Meguiars NXT tech wax (applied and buffed with the PC), the result was ...
http://www.20v-turbo.co.uk/images/detailing/pc1.jpg
Stunning!!!
http://www.20v-turbo.co.uk/images/detailing/pc2.jpg
Close up:
http://www.20v-turbo.co.uk/images/detailing/pc3.jpg
I was nervous about machine polishing my car, but once I started I soon became comfortable using the PC very quickly, it does not feel like it will damage the paint and is easy to use, I let the weight of itself do the work and set the speed to 3, the results are awesome and cannot be replicated by hand. :)
I cannot wait to do the whole car now, my results by hand were good, with the PC they are going to be amazing! :D
OMG i am liking that you anywhere near me ill pay your fuel and theres a ice cold pint in it for you :D
wow, amazing results there robdon
Thank you. The shine is just deeper, cleaner and sharper than by hand - much less effort too. Thanks for all your help and contacts for getting the PC and Alex for the detailing stuff - much appreciated!
Thank you. The shine is just deeper, cleaner and sharper than by hand - much less effort too. Thanks for all your help and contacts for getting the PC and Alex for the detailing stuff - much appreciated!
hey its no problem, some people doubt just how good these machines are, but as you now know even begginers can get amazing results after just a few minutes of use , thats why i push the machine to anyone who is interested in having a clean swirl free car
your paint looks amazing ,please post full pictures when you get them done :clap:
Well that was the first time I'd ever use a machine buffer and all went well with great results. I did read the Autopia guide on how to use the 7424 and there is a video on the Meguiars site worth watching too:
http://autopia-carcare.com/inf-pc7424.html
http://www.meguiars.com/video/ (power polishing clinic)
Full car pics once I do the entire car and get my new wheels on! ;)
yeh doing a bit of reading up first always helps, the autopia one was the one i used when i first got mine, can wait to see the full pics of yours, loving the colour of yours too bye the way
rob thanks for the advice on getting the Klasse all-in-one used it today very pleased :-o not in the same league as yours and 182 s but not bad for a parttimer :D
looking good zeus, now all you need is a pc :bleh: :thumbup:
rob thanks for the advice on getting the Klasse all-in-one used it today very pleased :-o not in the same league as yours and 182 s but not bad for a parttimer :D
Where can I get some of this as Im not in a position to spend too much but Im tryin to build my products up and if Robdon recommends it then it has to be good?
looking good zeus, now all you need is a pc :bleh: :thumbup:
i am saving the pennys, not long now :thumbup:
rob gave me this add http://autopia-carcare.com/kus-kla-10.html got it from him very good service :D
Where can I get some of this as Im not in a position to spend too much but Im tryin to build my products up and if Robdon recommends it then it has to be good?
hey if you want to get it from autopia , let me know and i will give you a discount code etc, to save you some cash :D
i am saving the pennys, not long now :thumbup:
rob gave me this add http://autopia-carcare.com/kus-kla-10.html got it from him very good service :D
hehe, let me know and i will sort you out if you like [B)]
dalepearson
01-06-2005, 08:44
Cars looking good guys. Should be PCing mine this week. Cleaned the Engine, Interior and wheels so far. Bodywork is next on the list.
And Rob, what wheels you getting now?
You can get Klasse all-in-one and sealant glaze from Alex in the UK. The AIO is £19.99 and the glaze is £18.99, just download his PDF and send off an order to him.
http://www.seriousperformance.co.uk/
http://www.seriousperformance.co.uk/sp/pricelist_100405.pdf
Next time I'm using the Klasse AIO over my entire car with the PC.
WatchHill
01-06-2005, 13:46
Done that with mine, but I should have used something with more cut than the Swissol Paint Cleaner I had. Got a bit of marring under that magnificent shine. I've got some SSR2 now but I haven't got around to trying it yet.
Yeah good point, I want to make sure the paint is spot on before I apply the Klasse then the sealant glaze. My Klasse stuff arrived from Alex today.
Rob, have you heard of a product called "blacktop" it's made by a company calle Farecla. The bodyshop who are painting my car say it's all they use as they reckon it's the best ?
I've heard of it yes, found it here: http://www.bodyshopwarehouse.co.uk/default.asp?go=1&prodid=2711
Never heard anyone raving about it though, but it says it allows fresh paint to breath and cure so I'm guessing only bodyshops need use it really.
Ok, the guy asked me what i was using and i said meguiars and he'd never heard of it! he's going to give me a sample bottle to try, should be interesting.
WatchHill
02-06-2005, 08:58
i said meguiars and he'd never heard of it!
Lorks!
Doesn't get out much does he?
wanting to finish ps'in mine but it keeps raining ;-(
pc'ed my bonnet in between the rain showers.
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/182blue/pcbonn9.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y183/182blue/pcbonn18.jpg
I doubt yellow could look better! :)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1294&item=4553582882&rd=1
so wouldnt something like this be just as good? if you used the same guide?
Nope, it is not a random orbital buffer, just orbital which means it spins on the same spot all the time, so a risk of burning your paint. The Porter Cable is random, which means as well as spinning, it goes up and down, side to side as well.
thx robdon, b6mfd, dont use that machine on your car, i can nearly guarantee you will damage your paint unless you kcow what your doing, a pc is a far better choice for people like us
I tried Zymol Auto Wash shampoo today, been using Megs for years and it's always been a high sudsing foamy car shampoo. I much prefer the Zymol, doesn't foam up anywhere near as much and the water seems to sheet off better when rinsing it off. At only £5.99 from Halfords it seems very good VFM, should last for ages as it's only half a capful per bucket.
http://www.zdouk.com/images/large_z505.jpg
Smells funky too with lemon, banana and coconut oils in it!
wild willy
12-06-2005, 20:30
Nope, it is not a random orbital buffer, just orbital which means it spins on the same spot all the time, so a risk of burning your paint. The Porter Cable is random, which means as well as spinning, it goes up and down, side to side as well.
Did you Know that B&Q sell their own random obital car polisher for less than £20. 240v, its not bad as well.
hmmm, rather you than me chap
wild willy
12-06-2005, 22:40
hmmm, rather you than me chap
Buy one test it, use it on someone elses car if not happy take it back. Don't be put off by the B&Q bit. The item itself does the job but the attachments can be bettered by third party equipment.
The megs clay bar did not remove the tar spots on mine either, took off recent ones that were still soft but ones that had been on for a while had to be removed with petrol. Sounds extreme but works ok. :)
nope mine either, tried alsorts for the last 6 months to get it off.
today in halfords got 2 for 1 on all turtle wax products, got some free turtle wax bug and tar remover and thought id try it.
:-o
spray on (slightly foamy) leave for one min and i rubbed off with one of them sponges with a mesh on, made every bit come off with ease with hardly any rubbing,made the tar very soft.
thats tar thats been on for a long time.
leaves the paint hazy to look at which is actually turtle wax polish,buffed up lovely
:thumbup:
Buy one test it, use it on someone elses car if not happy take it back. Don't be put off by the B&Q bit. The item itself does the job but the attachments can be bettered by third party equipment.
tell you what, you test it, and let us all know
Just got latest order from Autopia, 3 days from ordering to delivery!
http://www.20v-turbo.co.uk/images/detailing/sonus1.jpg
Nice people, no import duty or VAT to pay!
http://www.20v-turbo.co.uk/images/detailing/sonus2.jpg
Big thanks to 182blue for the discount code! :D