View Full Version : pc, car polisher buying guide, get a lovely shiny car
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please refer to this post (http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=54694) while its still there
Hi,
Newbie so I'm not sure what 'PM ME AND I WILL SUPPLY THE LATEST CODE, WHICH IS PRESENTLY 15%' means.
Cheers Simon
Hi,
Newbie so I'm not sure what 'PM ME AND I WILL SUPPLY THE LATEST CODE, WHICH IS PRESENTLY 15%' means.
Cheers Simon
you got pm
whhat's wrong with posting the code.?
whhat's wrong with posting the code.?
nothing at all, its just if the code changes people get frustrated that it doesnt work, and i can make sure people get the latest working code, and some codes are for specific clubs and shouldnt be shared :whistle:
isn't this code for cliosport?
sounds more likely (and has happened before) that this is an affiliate code for comission earnings..
which are against the rules too.
no, the code is different to that, i can pm you if you want to check it
So are you making comission on this? 12% it says here
http://store.yahoo.com/autopia/af.html
Or is it the loyal customer code? Generally 'we' prefer to oversee discounters to ensure that people aren't just milking SCN for comission.
Email me the code (not PM) and I will check it out with Autopia.
you got pm, and email :-)
Icecavern
14-07-2005, 16:27
Second from bottom post says it all for me... http://www.tyresmoke.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/1,2,12,15,22,25,26,27,7/Number/460316/Main/456777/
^^lol, thx for that ??, if you read the top i asked for comments to be made on the other post
anyway, yes the cyclo is a good machine, i agree, but its $100 more than the pc, and runs hotter than the pc, hence running the risk of brining the paint, the pc is only just slightly behind it (for power), if you use 4" pads on the pc it equals if not beats the cutting power of the cyclo
as for the "Smart tool" ill leave that to you, do a bit or research on the forums and see what you think :roflmao:
im more interested in the 5th post down here, its from brazo, a man i know and respect, and i have seen his quality work in the detailers world, clean image is a posh car washer LOL
CLICKY FOR LINK (http://www.tyresmoke.net/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/1,2,12,15,22,25,26,27,7/Number/456777/page/0/fpart/3/vc/1)
Icecavern
15-07-2005, 10:22
No I'm suggesting people either don't buy one at all and pay a pro to do it, because you shouldn't use these things more than maybe once a year if you're really unlucky. OR buy yourself any old random orbital sander BECAUSE THAT IS ALL THE PC IS! If I was going to do this I'd spend at maximum £40 or a RA sander, and then spend another £50 or so on some quality polishing pads for it. I definately wouldn't spend £200 to get a sander and a few pads :roflmao:
No I'm suggesting people either don't buy one at all and pay a pro to do it, because you shouldn't use these things more than maybe once a year if you're really unlucky. OR buy yourself any old random orbital sander BECAUSE THAT IS ALL THE PC IS! If I was going to do this I'd spend at maximum £40 or a RA sander, and then spend another £50 or so on some quality polishing pads for it. I definately wouldn't spend £200 to get a sander and a few pads :roflmao:
the choice is yours mate, but you listen to one person opinion on tyresmoke (the same bloke that says all polishers are the same except for the bearings :roflmao: , nothing to do with different motors etc ) , were as i go with the thousands of people on autopia who rave about the pc, the bloke on tyresmoke knows nothing about detailing he's a car washer :p
the whole point of the pc is its safe to use at home for begginers and pros alike, ask robdon what he thinks of the machine , and with the right products you can use it weekly, although i never said to use the machine more than twice a year, ps please do read the top of the forum, i dont want this filling up with crap, if you have comments use the other post
I'll be honest I was referred to this thread but I would like to make some comments, first off I'll introduce myself as an enthusiastic detailer who has been using the porter cable (pc) for some time now. As know one knows me I have put some links to some off my work below.
http://www.dervhead.com/xmb/viewthread.php?tid=2513
http://www.dervhead.com/xmb/viewthread.php?tid=2510
http://www.dervhead.com/xmb/viewthread.php?tid=2215
Ice Cavern I do agree with you about the once a year polish, for example with the correct washing/drying techniques you should only have to aggressively polish your car maybe 1 x a year, but remember the pc is very gentle and not like the rotary polisher referred to in the above thread where serious paint damage can occur if not used correctly. However the pc can also be used to apply lighter polishes/glazes and really give a great shine without actually removing any clear coat or inducing buffer marks. It can speed up removal of polishes and waxes as well.
As for a cheaper UK alternative believe me you’re not the first to try this and probably won't be the last, people have tried before and not come up with anything suitable - see below lins.
http://shop.meguiars.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1082&highlight=uk+alternative
If you do find one though I would be very interested! :D
Also this thread from autopia shows the results that other people have achieved with a pc. Its not a bad tool at all. The autosmart tool above is also known as a cyclo polisher and again is very good, even better than the pc by all accounts on autopia. However looking at the pics in the below link I feel most people would struggle to improve on the gloss/shine?
http://autopia.org/forum/showthread.php?t=58754
Would I buy a autosmart tool? No as the pc is as near as dammit too it and won't offer me a huge difference, would I buy a rotary polisher that can do serious defect paint correction? - Watch this space :whistle:
Chemical Al
15-07-2005, 11:56
So are you making comission on this? 12% it says here
http://store.yahoo.com/autopia/af.html
Or is it the loyal customer code? Generally 'we' prefer to oversee discounters to ensure that people aren't just milking SCN for comission.
Email me the code (not PM) and I will check it out with Autopia.
So whats the score with this? Is this a genuine recomendation or is there alternate motives?
So whats the score with this? Is this a genuine recomendation or is there alternate motives?
lol, its genuine, mork is checking the code for some reason ?, ask on the other post and you will see that people are happy with there discount :clap:
Chemical Al
15-07-2005, 12:04
so where do you get the discount codes from?
Icecavern
15-07-2005, 12:05
Actually no, I searched the net for a comment that matched what 2 VERY good friends in the trade said to me. One is a professional car restorer ( who only does paintwork and restores E-types etc ) and the other is a sprayer. Both laughed at the amount of money people in the UK spend on a "polisher" which is in reality a US market random orbital sander which is packaged with just polishing pads and no sanding discs.
The reason people say the PC is safer is because it's a RA one, rather than just a standard spinning disc which is what some of the cheap sanders are. With all these things even the PC you are going to gradually errode the paint, and you'd have to be a fool to burn/melt the paint with even the most basic polisher/sander. I'd be more worried about dust etc getting under the polishing pad than I would about burning the paint.
Robdon could polish a turd and it's come out shiney, he has the knack with or without a polisher :D
the code is for a forum, rather like this one i guess, i dont want to post it as its there code, but if you want it and want to check it i can pm you
Actually no, I searched the net for a comment that matched what 2 VERY good friends in the trade said to me. One is a professional car restorer ( who only does paintwork and restores E-types etc ) and the other is a sprayer. Both laughed at the amount of money people in the UK spend on a "polisher" which is in reality a US market random orbital sander which is packaged with just polishing pads and no sanding discs.
The reason people say the PC is safer is because it's a RA one, rather than just a standard spinning disc which is what some of the cheap sanders are. With all these things even the PC you are going to gradually errode the paint, and you'd have to be a fool to burn/melt the paint with even the most basic polisher/sander. I'd be more worried about dust etc getting under the polishing pad than I would about burning the paint.
Robdon could polish a turd and it's come out shiney, he has the knack with or without a polisher :D
think we need to agree do differ :rolleyes:
Icecavern
15-07-2005, 12:09
think we need to agree do differ :rolleyes:
I know who I trust to get my info that's all.
I'll be calling them later on when I have 5 mins to obtain a code for SCN, I feel that 'stealing' a code used on another forum is dishonest, and this will prove out that no 3rd party is profiteering (SCN won't)
no probs dude, if you can get 15% then thats good, i will delete the guide for you, sorry to have been such a problem, but please do confirm to people that the ABC code was not a code that made me any money, as now you made me look like a knob for no good reason, good way to treat your members !!!!!
Chemical Al
15-07-2005, 12:15
I'll be calling them later on when I have 5 mins to obtain a code for SCN, I feel that 'stealing' a code used on another forum is dishonest, and this will prove out that no 3rd party is profiteering (SCN won't)
:thumbup:
top man :)
It's not a case of making you look bad - after all - the code isn't for use on this forum & *anything* that uses a code (especially on a site that has affiliate sales) will rouse my suspition.
Nobody pays to use SCN - so why should anyone make money from it?
I didn't say or point the finger at YOU 182Blue, but can you be 100% sure there's no rebate to the 'original' club?
Actually no, I searched the net for a comment that matched what 2 VERY good friends in the trade said to me. One is a professional car restorer ( who only does paintwork and restores E-types etc ) and the other is a sprayer. Both laughed at the amount of money people in the UK spend on a "polisher" which is in reality a US market random orbital sander which is packaged with just polishing pads and no sanding discs.
The reason people say the PC is safer is because it's a RA one, rather than just a standard spinning disc which is what some of the cheap sanders are. With all these things even the PC you are going to gradually errode the paint, and you'd have to be a fool to burn/melt the paint with even the most basic polisher/sander. I'd be more worried about dust etc getting under the polishing pad than I would about burning the paint.
Robdon could polish a turd and it's come out shiney, he has the knack with or without a polisher :D
Yes it is possible to burn the paint with a pc or maybe not burn but actually erode through the paintwork. However it does worry me that so many people dismiss the pc as pointless when these results can be achived
http://autopia.org/forum/showthread.php?t=58754
Especially when these people have never used a pc that is the sad part. Don't get me wrong I am not saying it is the best and a rotary can be better and do much more serious defect removal, however the two are often used alongside each other and compliment each other well.
Chemical Al
15-07-2005, 12:39
However it does worry me that so many people dismiss the pc as pointless when these results can be achived
why, surly its no skin off your back?
^^Nope your right it just annoys me when certain ill informed people misguide others by dismisisng a product thet they have never used.
But ultimatly your right, - I should stop wasting my time trying to help people that don't wnat to be helped ;)
Chemical Al
15-07-2005, 12:47
Im sure it is a good product but it just seemed to be a bit 'fishy'. It seemed to be hyped up too much for my liking. And a discount code that couldnt be posted up was the icing on the cake.
dude i deleted it FFS the code was ABC, use it and enjoy it, BUT I DID NOT MAKE MONEY FROM THE CODE ABC
Ruddmeister
15-07-2005, 12:51
dude i deleted it FFS the code was ABC, use it and enjoy it, BUT I DID NOT MAKE MONEY FROM THE CODE ABC
Your missing the point, m0rk said whoever was issued with the ABC code, are you sure they don't make anything??
Your missing the point, m0rk said whoever was issued with the ABC code, are you sure they don't make anything??
i have no clue whatsoever, but i didnt think refferers worked like that !!, i thought mork said the code ABC didnt make anyone any money :confused:
now he's just throwing his toys about editting the thread
I never said that at all.
no, you have made me look dishonest, so im deleting both threads
HERE IS WHERE I FOUND THE CODE http://autopia.org/forum/showthread.php?t=36042&highlight=DISCOUNT+ABC
You've made youself look dishonest before I've been able to spare the time to call them
deleting the threads & information makes YOU look dishonest
Innocent til proven guilty. To me hiding the evidence is proving yourself.
The discount code comes from the website (shop) itself but I fully understand your concerns and you were right to check it out.
As for the pc, hyped up? Maybe?
Thats why I posted numerous links to show the work of one so you can see it with your own eyes. However the pic from wordpro in the first post is probably one of if not the best I have seen at demonstrating its ability. Still I agree its not for everyone.
You've made youself look dishonest before I've been able to spare the time to call them
deleting the threads & information makes YOU look dishonest
Innocent til proven guilty. To me hiding the evidence is proving yourself.
THE OTHER THREAD IS STILL THERE, CHECK IT, WHEN YOU HAVE I WILL DELETE THAT TOO
Chemical Al
15-07-2005, 13:00
Why not just edit this one with The SCN code?
its still there, the mods can edit it as they wish
exactly the 'idea' I had.....
like I said. throwing toys.
Then after a few weeks show us where the code came from (why didn't you do this sooner?)
OK - so 182Blue can stop his paddy, because he's not making anything from it.
So stop being a nonce & editting the posts or I'll just get pissed off - and you know what that means.
i told everyone who asked for the code ,what the code was, i didnt post it as i was told not too, im telling you now so people dont think i have been robbing them, if i have pissed you of that much dude, do what you have to do, but please remember i have not actually done anything wrong
Chemical Al
15-07-2005, 13:22
no, you havent done any thing wrong. It just seemed a bit suspect and now everything is out in the open and hopefully SCN can get its own discount code which will make things even easier and the suspisions or speculation as to weather you were getting a cut (which you werent) iradicates the 'is this a biased opinion' doubts people may of had.
possibly pm'ing me in the first case would have been better eh
:( never mind
I just wanted to say I have no problem with 182blue, seems a totally decent person to me (I don't know him personally, only from here), I find the PC a very useful detailing tool which produces results I cannot replicate by hand and my car's paint has definately stepped up a notch. I've never had so many compliments about my car at recent shows since I began using the PC - I don't think I could be without it now. Just my two-penneth of input.
I like that line about me being able to polish a turd!!! :D
thx robdon :redface: :D
your cars looking good by the way, i so want it LOL , did you go to the 'Fast & Modified' show ?, and did you get chance to use your new cleaning bits ?
Yes, I was at the Fast & Modified car show today - car was looking good and had plenty of people round it all day - I used most of the stuff yes, I gave the whole car a P21S wax on top of PB EX-P and it came up awesome! :D
A few guys from here came over to say hello - nice to see you again fellas.
ahh, good, you posting any pics soon, be nice to see the beast again
Here's a pic of mine at the show:
http://www.20v-turbo.co.uk/images/events/fm05/fm00.jpg
Engine bay yesterday:
http://www.20v-turbo.co.uk/images/events/fm05/fm51.jpg
[B)] ;)
hmm, love the turinis :thumbup:
ps are they normal headlights ??, they look different
PhatPhil
18-07-2005, 15:01
Looking good Robbie.
Can't wait for mine to arrive and give it a try :D
hasnt yours come yet phil ?, when did you order it again
Chemical Al
18-07-2005, 15:33
would an air polisher and compressor be an option? You could probably pick a compresser up for £70-80 and then a polisher for £50-60. Or are the 'DIY' compressors not up to the job?
never heard of them tbh ?, but are they random orbital ?, if so may be worth a try, but i guess they wont be powerfull enough, and probably not adjustable
Chemical Al
18-07-2005, 15:42
Compressor (http://www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=000110243&r=2007&g=102)
polisher (http://www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=000310410&r=2022&g=103)
(these are the first ones i came to, probably better ones about for similar money)
"ps are they normal headlights ??, they look different"
Different headlights, from Germany, black projectors headlights with custom angel eyes and 6000K HID's in the projectors, look like this at night:
Sidelights only:
http://www.20v-turbo.co.uk/images/mods4/nulit1.jpg
Sidelights and HID projectors:
http://www.20v-turbo.co.uk/images/mods4/nulit2.jpg
I did the modifications to them myself! :D
Compressor (http://www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=000110243&r=2007&g=102)
polisher (http://www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=000310410&r=2022&g=103)
(these are the first ones i came to, probably better ones about for similar money)
the polisher looks like a rotary, so could remove to much paint if not used correctly, you need an orbital unless your experienced
"ps are they normal headlights ??, they look different"
Different headlights, from Germany, black projectors headlights with custom angel eyes and 6000K HID's in the projectors, look like this at night:
I did the modifications to them myself! :D
nice, bet they dont do them for the ibiza do they, the standard ones on mine look awfull
Icecavern
18-07-2005, 16:04
Compressor (http://www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=000110243&r=2007&g=102)
polisher (http://www.machinemart.co.uk/product.asp?p=000310410&r=2022&g=103)
(these are the first ones i came to, probably better ones about for similar money)
The polisher isn't a random orbital one which you do need but otherwise yes that sort of setup will be fine. You can adjust the speed of the polisher by changing the air pressure.
Pete
Chemical Al
18-07-2005, 16:07
the polisher looks like a rotary, so could remove to much paint if not used correctly, you need an orbital unless your experienced
was just an idea and worth a mention :)
but for the price you could get a pc, there on sale at $119 + $50 shipping + £40 for uk transformer = aprox £135 uk, the set up yor looking at will cost you £135,and you got a big compressor to lug around , and store too, just a thought
Chemical Al
18-07-2005, 16:15
Thats very true
lol, its all been tried before, the only real option at the minute without going for an orbital is a pc, dont get me wrong orbitals are better than pc's for swirl removal etc, but because there so aggresive it can go wrong, badly wrong
PhatPhil
18-07-2005, 18:32
hasnt yours come yet phil ?, when did you order it again
Package had arrived when I got home :)
Problem is...some of the order is missing :confused: . Emailed them back to hopefully get it sorted as it's all listed on the invoice! :(
Still need to order all the Poorboys stuff as recommended by RobDon.
glad you got it, sorry you got something missing though, dont worry they will deffo sort you, i had a cracked bottle once and they sent me another one straight out no problems, this is the advantage of autopia , there brilliant customer service, if you have any problems let me know as i got a good rep with them
PhatPhil
18-07-2005, 18:37
VERY impressed with the service so far. Loads of emails keeping me up-to-date and a nice letter in the box thanking me for my order.
Fingers crossed they get it sorted!
they will sort you mate, i think david b is off at the moment so the blokes in the wharehouse probably messed up (no supervision LOL), it will be ok, but do let me know